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Title: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: QuietTruth on August 30, 2007, 02:22:20 PM
Your opinions, drop 'em.
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: Rud on August 30, 2007, 02:22:58 PM
krs
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: boycriedwolf619 on August 30, 2007, 02:34:57 PM
Krs-One , Nas , Talib, Common, Immortal Technique, Hasan Salaam, Dead Prez,  The Lost Children Of Babylon, Rza , Poor Righteous Teachers, Cilvaringz, Hell Razah, Killah Priest, Issues, Chief Kamachi. Theres alot more FUCK MAINSTREAM RAP!!!
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: QuietTruth on August 31, 2007, 05:36:25 PM
Propz ya'll, but for real, only 2 replies??
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: Tanjential on August 31, 2007, 05:54:58 PM
Eminem, Nas, Ice Cube


-T
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: swangin and bangin on August 31, 2007, 06:24:54 PM
im goin wit nas

cuz he reads books and shit
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: Lunatic on August 31, 2007, 06:26:31 PM
Killer Mike
Talib
Nas
Common
Kanye
Xzibit
Krs-One
Ice Cube
Immortal Technique
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on August 31, 2007, 06:40:23 PM
Cube, Nas, and Andre 3000.
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: dclee on August 31, 2007, 07:26:07 PM
Don't forget about Chuck D!
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: Don Jacob on August 31, 2007, 07:30:03 PM
i don't know


ther'es a lot of rappers out there that are smart....but have some kind of twisted mind sets. then there are some rappers that just pretend to be smart.

Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: Fuck Your Existence on August 31, 2007, 07:38:39 PM
there are some rappers that just pretend to be smart.
Nas always came across like that to me but i never really liked his shit so im not really up on dude
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: boycriedwolf619 on September 01, 2007, 10:42:03 AM
eminem?? wtf wow  ???
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on September 01, 2007, 01:51:38 PM
Rass Kass has got to be mentioned in this.

-Dead Prez
-Immortal Technique
-Mos Def
-Del
-Wise Intelligent of the  Poor Righteous Teachers
-2pac


...any rappers who study Islam
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: Laconic on September 01, 2007, 05:32:31 PM
Paris
T-KASH
The Coup
Jahi
Truth Universal
Uno the Prophet
Jeru
Brother Ali
Mr. J Medeiros
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: Al Bundy on September 01, 2007, 05:35:49 PM
im goin wit nas

cuz he reads books and shit

LOL
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: Dubz on September 01, 2007, 05:56:25 PM
depends on what you mean by knowledgable.

if its business smarts you mean, then its gotta be
 
-50
-puffy
-jigga
-snoop
-master p

political, governmental knowledge would be

-immortal technique
-talib kweli
-mos def
-2pac

intellectual, logical knowledge

-nas
-joe budden
-chamillionaire
-common



those are just what first came to mind from the MAINSTREAM...
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: Tanjential on September 01, 2007, 06:17:57 PM
different kinds of intelligence?

Hustle:

Daz
50

Governmental/Political

P.E.
Cube
Immortal Technique
Dead Prez


Spiritual/Personal

Nas
OutKast
Snoop(yeah, I mean it)
2pac

Artistic (which should be the most important imo)
Dre
Cube
Mac Dre
Nas
Cube
2pac

-T
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: Fuck Your Existence on September 01, 2007, 06:27:13 PM
...any rappers who study Islam
lol
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: Avalanche on September 01, 2007, 08:33:35 PM
Wow, how is no one even gonna mention Chace Infinite of Self Scientific?
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: Tanjential on September 01, 2007, 08:54:38 PM
Wow, how is no one even gonna mention Chace Infinite of Self Scientific?


cause we've never heard them talk

-T
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: QuietTruth on September 02, 2007, 06:46:41 AM
Rapper's who can drop knowledge on a track, so you can learn from. That's what I meant, my fault ya'll.

Good shit though.
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on September 02, 2007, 07:28:05 AM
Rapper's who can drop knowledge on a track, so you can learn from. That's what I meant, my fault ya'll.

Good shit though.

Canibus
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: K.Dub on September 02, 2007, 08:29:21 AM
...any rappers who study Islam
lol
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: Avalanche on September 02, 2007, 11:07:49 AM
Wow, how is no one even gonna mention Chace Infinite of Self Scientific?


cause we've never heard them talk

-T

sure you have, all you have to do is listen to his music. however, you listed daz as knowledgable...
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: Money on September 02, 2007, 11:16:59 AM
im goin wit nas

cuz he reads books and shit
lol
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: Tanjential on September 02, 2007, 07:03:57 PM
daz is knowledgable in the indie hustle sense

-T
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: NobodyButMe on September 03, 2007, 05:54:08 AM
i'd like to know one thing that any one of you have actually 'learned' from a rapper...
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: Money on September 03, 2007, 08:37:59 AM
i'd like to know one thing that any one of you have actually 'learned' from a rapper...
ive learned regional slang. but nothing of value.
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: QuietTruth on September 03, 2007, 08:58:47 AM
i'd like to know one thing that any one of you have actually 'learned' from a rapper...
I've learned alot of 'social events' or whatever you wanna call it, that happened, that I haven't heard of before.

I've learned about other religions believe it or not.

I've learned vocabulary.

Homie, rapper's say alot of shit in they lyrics and when I listen to that shit, I have wikipedia by my side. Alot of real rapper's teach they people how to be proud and shit, not now, but Public Enemy days. And weather those records are years old, you can still go back and learn from them no matter how old you are or how old those records are. I don't even understand why you would ask that question?
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: Tanjential on September 03, 2007, 01:00:36 PM
we should be able to learn alot from art. if you aren't you need to reevaluate the quality of the art you're listening to

-T
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: Al Bundy on September 03, 2007, 01:02:31 PM
this might sound pretty homo but i didn't have a dad when i grew up and i learned alot of shit from rap to be honest.
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: Tanjential on September 03, 2007, 01:04:33 PM
that doesn't sound homo at all. i think you are the only person who's concerned with sounding gay to the extent that you are on this board. it's all right dude, there's no waiting in the wings to call us all gay. well i'd hope not anyway.

-T
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on September 03, 2007, 01:06:53 PM
Krs-One , Nas , Talib, Common, Immortal Technique, Hasan Salaam, Dead Prez,  The Lost Children Of Babylon, Rza , Poor Righteous Teachers, Cilvaringz, Hell Razah, Killah Priest, Issues, Chief Kamachi. Theres alot more FUCK MAINSTREAM RAP!!!
???
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: Tanjential on September 03, 2007, 01:20:13 PM
Krs-One , Nas , Talib, Common, Immortal Technique, Hasan Salaam, Dead Prez,  The Lost Children Of Babylon, Rza , Poor Righteous Teachers, Cilvaringz, Hell Razah, Killah Priest, Issues, Chief Kamachi. Theres alot more FUCK MAINSTREAM RAP!!!
???

don't trip. dude just found the choir and started preaching.

-T
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: wcsoldier on September 03, 2007, 01:40:10 PM
Some of the rappers named here try to kick knowledge but they said some ignorant things in their music
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: swangin and bangin on September 03, 2007, 03:40:09 PM
this might sound pretty homo but i didn't have a dad when i grew up and i learned alot of shit from rap to be honest.
true story
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: NobodyButMe on September 03, 2007, 04:47:56 PM
i'm just askin that question because someone had asked me that question and i don't think that there was any good answer that i could give. i mean, sure, some of these guys are smart and 'knowledgeable' but i don't really know how that helps anyone or makes anything any better.

i guess i'm just really tired of hearin guys talk about how 'smart' rappers are when i don't see any of them doin shit for their communities. it's like - yeah, i'm smart, but i don't do shit with it to better myself or anyone around me. it was just a question coming from a biased guy (me) that sees little or no benefit of rap music on society any more...
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: Tanjential on September 04, 2007, 09:56:18 AM
i'm just askin that question because someone had asked me that question and i don't think that there was any good answer that i could give. i mean, sure, some of these guys are smart and 'knowledgeable' but i don't really know how that helps anyone or makes anything any better.

i guess i'm just really tired of hearin guys talk about how 'smart' rappers are when i don't see any of them doin shit for their communities. it's like - yeah, i'm smart, but i don't do shit with it to better myself or anyone around me. it was just a question coming from a biased guy (me) that sees little or no benefit of rap music on society any more...


that's all artists though.
music and otherwise
-T
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: QuietTruth on September 05, 2007, 03:08:39 PM
They also is inspiring to people to learn up on thangs and gain knowledge. You can tell when a rapper is intelligent or not, so when they are rappin' about somethang you know nuthin' about or when they are rappin' on a record about having intelligence, they are at least inspiring alot of cat's to learn more. I know I would rather learn from one of them instead of a teacher I have in school. And I'm sure that speaks for alotta people.
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: Machiavelli on September 05, 2007, 03:42:56 PM
lmao some of yall dudes are retarded..."cuz he reads books and shit" "studies islam"
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: Tanjential on September 05, 2007, 04:14:56 PM
They also is inspiring to people to learn up on thangs and gain knowledge. You can tell when a rapper is intelligent or not, so when they are rappin' about somethang you know nuthin' about or when they are rappin' on a record about having intelligence, they are at least inspiring alot of cat's to learn more. I know I would rather learn from one of them instead of a teacher I have in school. And I'm sure that speaks for alotta people.

damn, the south/east must suck cause I've really liked most of my teachers. But it's a liberal ass area so  teachers are all cool artistic people whereas out there I guess there'd be more conservative teachers.

-T
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: QuietTruth on September 05, 2007, 04:37:26 PM
I just like to have teachers who speak like me. LMAO. You know what I'm sayin'. Vocab throws me off.

But it's like, if you tell a nigga to read somethang written in somethang along the lines of being 'ghetto', a nigga can't follow. Tell the nigga to read somethang proper, it's easily read. Crazy shit. But when it's spoken aloud out in words, it's a whole notha situation.

But I learn from people who can be my level, don't ya'll too though? I need somebody that's like right here wit me.

I don't know, but music makes me want to learn. From Motown, soul, R&B to Hip Hop. When songs are based around events, it's only right to know what they are talking about.

Word??
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: rik on September 05, 2007, 04:39:16 PM
Benzino.
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: Tanjential on September 05, 2007, 05:45:36 PM
I just like to have teachers who speak like me. LMAO. You know what I'm sayin'. Vocab throws me off.

But it's like, if you tell a nigga to read somethang written in somethang along the lines of being 'ghetto', a nigga can't follow. Tell the nigga to read somethang proper, it's easily read. Crazy shit. But when it's spoken aloud out in words, it's a whole notha situation.

But I learn from people who can be my level, don't ya'll too though? I need somebody that's like right here wit me.

I don't know, but music makes me want to learn. From Motown, soul, R&B to Hip Hop. When songs are based around events, it's only right to know what they are talking about.

Word??

yeah dude, your teachers are right there with you. we're all on this rock called earth together. just be more open to what they're saying. it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks, you've heard that right? it's harder for them to go down to your level than it would be for you to go to theirs feel me? meet 'em halfway, I bet they know somethin'.

-T
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: QuietTruth on September 06, 2007, 03:37:42 PM
I know you gon' be one, you wanna be a High School teacher homie?
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: Tanjential on September 06, 2007, 03:46:49 PM
yeah, i will probably teach high school at some point.

-T
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: QuietTruth on September 06, 2007, 06:15:16 PM
Good luck. Get on their level. ;D
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: Retro on September 06, 2007, 08:05:40 PM
common
lupe fiasco
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: R-Tistic on September 06, 2007, 08:18:24 PM
Murs!!!
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: Tanjential on September 07, 2007, 09:23:36 AM
Good luck. Get on their level. ;D

oh i'm on the level, I just need to get a piece of paper that allows me to get paid for it

-T
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: everlast1986 on September 07, 2007, 10:10:46 AM
They also is inspiring to people to learn up on thangs and gain knowledge. You can tell when a rapper is intelligent or not, so when they are rappin' about somethang you know nuthin' about or when they are rappin' on a record about having intelligence, they are at least inspiring alot of cat's to learn more. I know I would rather learn from one of them instead of a teacher I have in school. And I'm sure that speaks for alotta people.

damn, the south/east must suck cause I've really liked most of my teachers. But it's a liberal ass area so  teachers are all cool artistic people whereas out there I guess there'd be more conservative teachers.

-T

Yep, it was pretty much like that when i went to school in Florida. Like the history and government classes for example they just wanted us to listen to whatever their take on the subject is and quiz you on it.
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: Tanjential on September 07, 2007, 10:42:10 AM
yeah teachers in CA are the shit.

-T
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: Active Ingredient on September 07, 2007, 11:37:27 AM
not much ras kass love in this thread

he always drops knowledge
Title: Re: Who do ya'll consider to be the most knowledgeable rappers?
Post by: Tanjential on September 07, 2007, 11:59:50 AM
not much ras kass love in this thread

he always drops knowledge

it's super-skewed knowledge though. dope mc though

-T