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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Rebel on August 20, 2010, 02:25:27 PM
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I'm posting this here as I didn't find a movie forum here...
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Ok... I rewatched Tim Burton's first 2 Batman films and remembered how awesome they were so I made a petition to get him and Keaton back for a potentiel Batman Beyond movie.
Please sign my petition and spread this to everyone you think can support this:
To: Warner Brothers
Have Tim Burton & Christopher Nolan and/or another modern writer collaborate for the ultimate Batman Beyond motion picture! Many fans of Batman; from comic book fans, animated series fans, fans who miss Tim Burton’s vision of Batman, and Christopher Nolan’s current vision of Batman; would absolutely jump at the chance to see the ultimate Batman Beyond film. Bring back Tim Burton’s production design and haunting direction to Batman. Bring back Danny Elfman’s epic score of the first two Batman films. Bring in Christopher Nolan’s realistic and modern touch to the writing. Have Michael Keaton reprise his role as Bruce Wayne and have a younger actor play a modern Batman. Even add a cameo by Michelle Pfeifer!
I’m sure the writers and producers can make this work without it interfering with the current franchise. With enough signatures, we can give Tim Burton & Michael Keaton a chance to rejuvenate their original and beloved major motion picture vision of Batman- before the Joel Schumacher destroyed the first franchise with Batman Forever and Batman & Robin. If they did it with Superman Returns, they can do it again with a Batman Beyond film- a direct sequel story to Batman Returns (as if Schumacher’s films never happened). And with Christopher Nolan’s realistic modern day writing added into the mix (or any other currently gifted writer) it could definitely work.
Seriously think about this and imagine how unbelievably epic this would be. The hype alone would break records!
Thanks for your support fellow Batman fans.
Sincerely,
The Undersigned
Sign here: http://www.petitiononline.com/amin1981/petition.html
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I always thought that if they ever did decide to do another Batman movie with Keaton and Burton, then they should focus on the Dark Knight Returns comic book. It was that comic that revolutionized Batman, and it would ironic, because it was what Burton based his movies off of and it would be what saves the Burton series it's self.
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I always thought that if they ever did decide to do another Batman movie with Keaton and Burton, then they should focus on the Dark Knight Returns comic book. It was that comic that revolutionized Batman, and it would ironic, because it was what Burton based his movies off of and it would be what saves the Burton series it's self.
But Keaton would be too old now, wouldn't he? I never read the comic but with Keaton's age, they could totally bring him back in a Batman Beyond story.
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The old Burton batman movies were great..but something tells me if he did it again it would just be an hour and a half long tribute to Johny Depp.
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I always thought that if they ever did decide to do another Batman movie with Keaton and Burton, then they should focus on the Dark Knight Returns comic book. It was that comic that revolutionized Batman, and it would ironic, because it was what Burton based his movies off of and it would be what saves the Burton series it's self.
But Keaton would be too old now, wouldn't he? I never read the comic but with Keaton's age, they could totally bring him back in a Batman Beyond story.
Batman is over 50 in the Dark Knight return comics
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I always thought that if they ever did decide to do another Batman movie with Keaton and Burton, then they should focus on the Dark Knight Returns comic book. It was that comic that revolutionized Batman, and it would ironic, because it was what Burton based his movies off of and it would be what saves the Burton series it's self.
But Keaton would be too old now, wouldn't he? I never read the comic but with Keaton's age, they could totally bring him back in a Batman Beyond story.
Batman is over 50 in the Dark Knight return comics
yeap... his over 50 and half senile and thinks a girl is Robin. It's by far the only way you could ever end the Burton/Keaton series. I thought it would have been great back in like 2002/3, but after they rebooted it, I was like cool, I can live with this.
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I always thought that if they ever did decide to do another Batman movie with Keaton and Burton, then they should focus on the Dark Knight Returns comic book. It was that comic that revolutionized Batman, and it would ironic, because it was what Burton based his movies off of and it would be what saves the Burton series it's self.
But Keaton would be too old now, wouldn't he? I never read the comic but with Keaton's age, they could totally bring him back in a Batman Beyond story.
Well, in reference to the original poster's idea about using Keaton as Bruce Wayne in "Batman Beyond," it would work because in "Batman Beyond" Bruce Wayne is an old man and has passed on the mantle of Batman to a young man named Terry McGinnis. Bruce Wayne acts as a mentor to this, younger Batman and runs the operation behind the scenes, from the batcave.
I don't really know how I'd feel about Burton and Keaton returning to the Batman franchise at this point, but as far as Keaton's age, it would probably work out okay. If anything, Keaton might still be a little bit too young to play old Bruce Wayne. That of course could always be fixed by aging him with make up fx, though.
As far as possibly doing a movie adaptation of "The Dark Knight Returns," I think that could work, but I wouldn't want it to have any connection to the Nolan films. If anything, I'd rather Robert Rodriguez directed the movie, using the same hyper-stylized method that he used for "Sin City." Being the Frank Miller did the art for both of those comic books, I think the "Sin City" type aesthetics would be a perfect match for "The Dark Knight Returns." Plus there are so many elements to that comic book that would be difficult to reconcile in the Christopher Nolan reality-based Batman universe. Batman's big throwdown with Superman for example.
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I'd rather see Tim Burton remake Casablanca with Michael Cera as Rick Blaine and Mr T as Ilsa than ever let him near a Batman property again.
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Nobody can top Nolan's current Batman.
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I'd rather see Tim Burton remake Casablanca with Michael Cera as Rick Blaine and Mr T as Ilsa than ever let him near a Batman property again.
Lol. I knew you were gonna say that. And for the record, they should never remake "Casablanca." ;D But while we're stirring the pot, I still say "The Dark Knight Returns" is overrated. It's good yes, but far from Miller's best. On the other hand, it's better than anything he's written lately.
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I'd rather see Tim Burton remake Casablanca with Michael Cera as Rick Blaine and Mr T as Ilsa than ever let him near a Batman property again.
Lol. I knew you were gonna say that. And for the record, they should never remake "Casablanca." ;D But while we're stirring the pot, I still say "The Dark Knight Returns" is overrated. It's good yes, but far from Miller's best. On the other hand, it's better than anything he's written lately.
I'm not the hugest Dark Knight Returns fan anyway, so you won't get me up in arms. It's definitely better than Allstar Batman and Robin though. I do prefer year one and Miller's Daredevil run to DKR.
Funny fact about the Casablanca remake; When Ben Affleck was dating J Lo there was a rumor the two wanted to remake it starring themselves.
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Uhhh....no.
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I'd rather see Tim Burton remake Casablanca with Michael Cera as Rick Blaine and Mr T as Ilsa than ever let him near a Batman property again.
Lol. I knew you were gonna say that. And for the record, they should never remake "Casablanca." ;D But while we're stirring the pot, I still say "The Dark Knight Returns" is overrated. It's good yes, but far from Miller's best. On the other hand, it's better than anything he's written lately.
I'm not the hugest Dark Knight Returns fan anyway, so you won't get me up in arms. It's definitely better than Allstar Batman and Robin though. I do prefer year one and Miller's Daredevil run to DKR.
Funny fact about the Casablanca remake; When Ben Affleck was dating J Lo there was a rumor the two wanted to remake it starring themselves.
Lol...Oh, man that would have been awful. Thank god that never happened. Btw, I agree with you completely on "Allstar Batman and Robin." "The Dark Knight Returns" was much better than that. I also agree with you regarding Miller's "Batman: Year One." To me, that's hands down, the best writing Miller has ever done for Batman. A few years back Frank Miller and director, Darren Aronofsky were collaborating on a movie adaptation of "Batman: Year One." Obviously it never happened and now that we have "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight," I doubt it ever will. Even though I'm very happy with the way "Batman Begins" turned out, I sometimes wonder how that movie version of "Year One" would have turned out.
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I'd rather see Tim Burton remake Casablanca with Michael Cera as Rick Blaine and Mr T as Ilsa than ever let him near a Batman property again.
Lol. I knew you were gonna say that. And for the record, they should never remake "Casablanca." ;D But while we're stirring the pot, I still say "The Dark Knight Returns" is overrated. It's good yes, but far from Miller's best. On the other hand, it's better than anything he's written lately.
I'm not the hugest Dark Knight Returns fan anyway, so you won't get me up in arms. It's definitely better than Allstar Batman and Robin though. I do prefer year one and Miller's Daredevil run to DKR.
Funny fact about the Casablanca remake; When Ben Affleck was dating J Lo there was a rumor the two wanted to remake it starring themselves.
Lol...Oh, man that would have been awful. Thank god that never happened. Btw, I agree with you completely on "Allstar Batman and Robin." "The Dark Knight Returns" was much better than that. I also agree with you regarding Miller's "Batman: Year One." To me, that's hands down, the best writing Miller has ever done for Batman. A few years back Frank Miller and director, Darren Aronofsky were collaborating on a movie adaptation of "Batman: Year One." Obviously it never happened and now that we have "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight," I doubt it ever will. Even though I'm very happy with the way "Batman Begins" turned out, I sometimes wonder how that movie version of "Year One" would have turned out.
I still think the best Batman movie ever would have been in 1988 based on Year One and Killing Joke, Directed by Ridley Scott, and starring Mel Gibson.
And truth be told it wasn't that far off. Mel was an early favorite for Wayne back in 85 when Jon Peters first tried making the film. The problem was that Scott coming of Blade Runner wasn't what Peters had in mind. His only real love of Batman came from the 60s TV show and brought Burton coming off of Pee Wee. The only guarantee going back to 1980 was that Jack Nicholson was to be Joker, and in 1980 he would have been a much better Joker.
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I was the one that suggested they end off the Burton/Keaton series with Dark Knight Returns, but I do agree that Year One and Killing Joke was MUCH better than Dark Knight Returns. I suggested ending with Dark Knight Returns because Burton has stated that DKR was his influence for Batman. He could follow one of two paths, go with the colorful 1960's Batman, or do something darker, and DKR was the direction he went. So in 2002/3 I though why not end it with the say Burton started his thought process.
If you noticed, Nolan didn't copy the stories but he used Year One and Killing Joke as his influences for Batman Begins and the Dark Knight. You can see the Year One influence all over Batman Begins, down to Jim Gordon's look and the end were he hands Batman the Joker card. In Dark Knight, Heath Ledger who never read the Batman comics was handed the Killing Joke as the example of the Joker Nolan was looking for. Obviously Nolan did not follow the Killing Joke, but he wanted Ledger to be of that character for the Joker.
As I said, I originally thought that rebooting the Keaton/Burton series was a great idea in 2002/3, but once Batman Begins came out I basically thought to just leave it alone. I will say this, a DKR movie would make a more futuristic Batman, complete with a stronger suit, and it's sequel can lead to Batman Begins. I use to like Batman Begins, so it's not far off to think a DKR move would then lead to a Batman Beyond movie.
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I was the one that suggested they end off the Burton/Keaton series with Dark Knight Returns, but I do agree that Year One and Killing Joke was MUCH better than Dark Knight Returns. I suggested ending with Dark Knight Returns because Burton has stated that DKR was his influence for Batman. He could follow one of two paths, go with the colorful 1960's Batman, or do something darker, and DKR was the direction he went. So in 2002/3 I though why not end it with the say Burton started his thought process.
If you noticed, Nolan didn't copy the stories but he used Year One and Killing Joke as his influences for Batman Begins and the Dark Knight. You can see the Year One influence all over Batman Begins, down to Jim Gordon's look and the end were he hands Batman the Joker card. In Dark Knight, Heath Ledger who never read the Batman comics was handed the Killing Joke as the example of the Joker Nolan was looking for. Obviously Nolan did not follow the Killing Joke, but he wanted Ledger to be of that character for the Joker.
As I said, I originally thought that rebooting the Keaton/Burton series was a great idea in 2002/3, but once Batman Begins came out I basically thought to just leave it alone. I will say this, a DKR movie would make a more futuristic Batman, complete with a stronger suit, and it's sequel can lead to Batman Begins. I use to like Batman Begins, so it's not far off to think a DKR move would then lead to a Batman Beyond movie.
I got ya. And for the record, I agree with most of what you're saying here. I'm not saying that it wouldn't work. (I think Shallow is, at least with Burton. lol.) I'm just saying that I don't know if it would at this point. I kind of agree with you that had they tried it around '02 or '03 it would have had a better chance of working. I still think that a "Dark Knight Returns" movie could work, but they would have to make a point of separating it from Nolan's established Batman universe and make it clear to everyone that it's it's own thing. To me the easiest way to do this would be to do a more literal interpretation ala Zach Snyder's "300" or Robert Rodreguez's "Sin City", where it looks like the actual comic page has been brought to life, rather than a more realistic adaptation like what Christopher Nolan would do. I think it's possible that we may see a movie adaptation of "Dark Knight Returns," but it probably wouldn't be until after Nolan finishes his Batman trilogy.
As far as "Batman Begins," you're definitely right about it being heavily influenced by "Batman: Year One." It also took a lot of ideas from Jeph Loeb's "Batman: The Long Halloween." And even though it isn't a literal adaptation of either one of those stories, I was very happy with the way "Batman Begins" turned out.
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I was the one that suggested they end off the Burton/Keaton series with Dark Knight Returns, but I do agree that Year One and Killing Joke was MUCH better than Dark Knight Returns. I suggested ending with Dark Knight Returns because Burton has stated that DKR was his influence for Batman. He could follow one of two paths, go with the colorful 1960's Batman, or do something darker, and DKR was the direction he went. So in 2002/3 I though why not end it with the say Burton started his thought process.
If you noticed, Nolan didn't copy the stories but he used Year One and Killing Joke as his influences for Batman Begins and the Dark Knight. You can see the Year One influence all over Batman Begins, down to Jim Gordon's look and the end were he hands Batman the Joker card. In Dark Knight, Heath Ledger who never read the Batman comics was handed the Killing Joke as the example of the Joker Nolan was looking for. Obviously Nolan did not follow the Killing Joke, but he wanted Ledger to be of that character for the Joker.
As I said, I originally thought that rebooting the Keaton/Burton series was a great idea in 2002/3, but once Batman Begins came out I basically thought to just leave it alone. I will say this, a DKR movie would make a more futuristic Batman, complete with a stronger suit, and it's sequel can lead to Batman Begins. I use to like Batman Begins, so it's not far off to think a DKR move would then lead to a Batman Beyond movie.
I got ya. And for the record, I agree with most of what you're saying here. I'm not saying that it wouldn't work. (I think Shallow is, at least with Burton. lol.) I'm just saying that I don't know if it would at this point. I kind of agree with you that had they tried it around '02 or '03 it would have had a better chance of working. I still think that a "Dark Knight Returns" movie could work, but they would have to make a point of separating it from Nolan's established Batman universe and make it clear to everyone that it's it's own thing. To me the easiest way to do this would be to do a more literal interpretation ala Zach Snyder's "300" or Robert Rodreguez's "Sin City", where it looks like the actual comic page has been brought to life, rather than a more realistic adaptation like what Christopher Nolan would do. I think it's possible that we may see a movie adaptation of "Dark Knight Returns," but it probably wouldn't be until after Nolan finishes his Batman trilogy.
As far as "Batman Begins," you're definitely right about it being heavily influenced by "Batman: Year One." It also took a lot of ideas from Jeph Loeb's "Batman: The Long Halloween." And even though it isn't a literal adaptation of either one of those stories, I was very happy with the way "Batman Begins" turned out.
I'm not saying it couldn't work. I'm just saying I'd hate it. But it could very well end up being a smash hit film with Keaton and Burton. The nostalgia alone would give it a huge opening weekend. Hell, I might even go see it.
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I'd rather see Tim Burton remake Casablanca with Michael Cera as Rick Blaine and Mr T as Ilsa than ever let him near a Batman property again.
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I'd love another Tim Burton Batman.