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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Doggystylin on June 22, 2002, 12:43:13 PM
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man i dont know much about christianity obviously but i read what this one dude said and it got me thinkin damn, it really doesnt make sense, check out what he said
"Jesus is the son of God, but Jesus is God. Therefore, Jesus is the son of Jesus. Therefore, Jesus impregnated his own mother before he was born. Therefore, Jesus is his own uncle and his own father, and his mother gave birth to the baby of him who he also is. Therefore, Mary must have been payed a hell of a lot of money for that type of sex."
no disrespect btw, i didnt even write that, the last part was cold, lol
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or mary was a hermaphrodite and fucked her (its?) self
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ah, keep dissin. Who ever writes this type of BS is stupid and has too much time on his hands. I'm tired of these discusions. nothing but beef and hate comes out of these things.
This is all I am going to say: Jesus is real and he is God. Bottom line. You can just feel it. When you feel his presence, you just know. I can't explain it. If you have never givin him a chance, then I am sorry. You can make as many excuses as you would like. We all shall find out the day of judgement.
-Tha Rev
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believe what u want but dont speak on it like its fact
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Hahahahaahaa @ Doggystylin & Overseer... ;D
Am I laughin with U or at U...hmmm
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ah, keep dissin. Who ever writes this type of BS is stupid and has too much time on his hands. I'm tired of these discusions. nothing but beef and hate comes out of these things.
This is all I am going to say: Jesus is real and he is God. Bottom line. You can just feel it. When you feel his presence, you just know. I can't explain it. If you have never givin him a chance, then I am sorry. You can make as many excuses as you would like. We all shall find out the day of judgement.
-Tha Rev
Exactly
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Jesus aint no fuckin god.....PERIOD
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Jesus aint no fuckin god.....PERIOD
Dont you think thats kinda offensive 2 ppl who believe he is? Why dont u elaborate on that or sumtin...
-{bLaDe}
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Who says Jesus is God? Doesn't the majority of Christianity believe he is the Son of God?
You can see him as a Godly figure but there is ONE God and he sent his son Jesus to Earth. the majority of Christianity recognizes that God and Jesus are separate entities. So you really ain't saying nothing.
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Who says Jesus is God? Doesn't the majority of Christianity believe he is the Son of God?
You can see him as a Godly figure but there is ONE God and he sent his son Jesus to Earth. the majority of Christianity recognizes that God and Jesus are separate entities. So you really ain't saying nothing.
i never said that, but what im sayin is, that a lot of christians i know do say jesus is god, so i dunno, ima leave this alone, :-/
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OK. It's like this.
The TRINITY(spelling?) meaning three in one. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. YES, they are three seperate beings. BUT, they all come together as one God. They are all God. I can't realy explain this well. Sorry. But that is how Jesus, THE SON, is God.
-Tha Rev
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Yeah that's a more accurate description of Christian beliefs.
This thread is nonsense. It goes fucking deeper than impregnating your mother. I can't believe you even bring some bullshit like this up Doggy
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Who says Jesus is God? Doesn't the majority of Christianity believe he is the Son of God?
You can see him as a Godly figure but there is ONE God and he sent his son Jesus to Earth. the majority of Christianity recognizes that God and Jesus are separate entities. So you really ain't saying nothing.
According to a priest i talked with, Jesus is the son of God, Jesus said that a truthfull human will sit next to him in heaven, the way he sits next to God, witch means that hes not referring him self as God, but as son of God. If he was God, how why didnt he say that the truthfull human will sit next to God insted??
So i think its pretty clear that Jesus is son of God accoding to the Bible...
now here comes the hard part,... how can Jesus be the son of God? isnt there only ONE God?? is Jesus a half-god or 100% god or a human?? ... isnt it written in Old Testament that nobody is sitting next to God??
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Yeah that's a more accurate description of Christian beliefs.
This thread is nonsense. It goes fucking deeper than impregnating your mother. I can't believe you even bring some bullshit like this up Doggy
yo my bad, i didnt know it would offend yall, i just read it somewhere and i thought damn it doesnt make sense, ill let wcc have a look at it....but i guess it was too much for yall, peace
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I actually didn't take you commites offensive, it just seemed like a question from someone that was uninformed. And Yeah... Jesus is the Son of God, and I believe in the Trinity, which says that the Father (the father of Jesus), the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit (what is used for all them heelings) all make one God, as Jesus sits at the right hand of the Father. The Father is not to be mistaken for God, God is all three in one. Jesus is was sent by the Father, and he died for the forgiveness of sins. The Holy Spirit is the love between the Father and Jesus, and the Holy Spirit is the feeling you feel when you come close to God. The Holy Spirit is what takes over a person, and is responsible for the shouting, and speaking in tounges. The Father is the high Father, and was the being that planeted the seed in Mary. I'm not for sure exactly how to explain it all... the Trinity is one of the most complicated thing to understand. Many Christians dismiss it because they can't understand, but in many ways God is beyond human understanding.
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but if God is not the Father, who is Jesus father then
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Dont you think thats kinda offensive 2 ppl who believe he is? Why dont u elaborate on that or sumtin...
-{bLaDe}
Most religions believe that there is ONE god....and Jesus is the son of god.....but 2 most christians there is ONE god and he is not Jesus....Jesus is their savior (spelling?¿) but not their god
As for Jews......Jesus is just god's son.....we dont discuss Jesus much
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Most religions believe that there is ONE god....and Jesus is the son of god.....but 2 most christians there is ONE god and he is not Jesus....Jesus is their savior (spelling?¿) but not their god
As for Jews......Jesus is just god's son.....we dont discuss Jesus much
jesus is the son of God, bu he's not a God himself?
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jesus is the son of God, bu he's not a God himself?
correct
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WRONG
-Tha Rev
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correct
if he's the son of God? how come that he's only a simple human? and if he's the son of God, why did he let people spit at him and trash him down to prove his point... isnt there better ways to do that? ...
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M Dogg and The Rev summed it all up. Read up on the Trinity and maybe you will be able to understand.
It's a hard concept to understand and it's hard to explain as well.
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well i am a former youth pastor and i can expalin this topic pretty well, but i am not going to type all of that. but jesus is god, and also the son of god, as along as the holy spirit. they all combine together and combine 1. i may have not stated that correctly, and its really sad to see ppl as overseer and REL clown on ppl very holy and important in the christain religion, overseer said that mary was possibly a hermaphidate and fucked her self, and RELs comment was even worse, saying jesus aint no fucking god. you to really offend me and i dont appriceate u talking the harsh of trash on my religion....its actually sad. i AM SHOCKED that overseer would say some mess like that........
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well i am a former youth pastor and i can expalin this topic pretty well, but i am not going to type all of that. but jesus is god, and also the son of god, as along as the holy spirit. they all combine together and combine 1. i may have not stated that correctly, and its really sad to see ppl as overseer and REL clown on ppl very holy and important in the christain religion, overseer said that mary was possibly a hermaphidate and fucked her self, and RELs comment was even worse, saying jesus aint no fucking god. you to really offend me and i dont appriceate u talking the harsh of trash on my religion....its actually sad. i AM SHOCKED that overseer would say some mess like that........
u have ur philisophy.....i have my own
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you can have whatever phliosphy u want, just dont talk trash on my religion, have respect for it, u dont see me coming on here saying "fuck the god of islam" no, so show some respect
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you can have whatever phliosphy u want, just dont talk trash on my religion, have respect for it, u dont see me coming on here saying "fuck the god of islam" no, so show some respect
lol....i c wat ur sayin...but lol....im not muslim
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you can have whatever phliosphy u want, just dont talk trash on my religion, have respect for it, u dont see me coming on here saying "fuck the god of islam" no, so show some respect
study your religion... we got the same God... jews aswell.. dissing our God would be same ass dissing your God and you would earn a direct-pass to hell (according to the Holy Qu'ran, the Bible and Torah (spelling??) )
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i was trying to make a point, not state facts or whtever, either way he dissed my god and i dont appriciate it
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i was trying to make a point, not state facts or whtever, either way he dissed my god and i dont appriciate it
you were trying to prove a point.. yes.. but but by showing how to diss your God ??... just admit u showed a bad example
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TinMan a youth pastor??? :o.
-Tha Rev
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yes, i used to be, then i stopped due to personl reasons, but i am going to go back to doing it.....
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and yea shadow, i showed a bad example, my fault
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study your religion... we got the same God... jews aswell.. dissing our God would be same ass dissing your God and you would earn a direct-pass to hell (according to the Holy Qu'ran, the Bible and Torah (spelling??) )
thats the right spelling ;)
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if anyone believes jesus is god or the son of god is ignorant and weak minded...he was a great person thats it...
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i guess 70% of the worlds population is weak minded then man, u seem pretty stupid to me to make s bold statement like that.......but thats all i ll say
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What I've been taught was that Jesus was God's representative on Earth(for lack of a better word).
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"the trinity" is actually tha trinity of BRAHMA da creator VISHNU da moderator and SHIVA da destryoer ;D ;D ;D
LOL peace out dont flame me yall ;)
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ah, keep dissin. Who ever writes this type of BS is stupid and has too much time on his hands. I'm tired of these discusions. nothing but beef and hate comes out of these things.
This is all I am going to say: Jesus is real and he is God. Bottom line. You can just feel it. When you feel his presence, you just know. I can't explain it. If you have never givin him a chance, then I am sorry. You can make as many excuses as you would like. We all shall find out the day of judgement.
-Tha Rev
i don't know if i really like this quote here.....first off man, YOU might feel it, but that doesn't mean that we all feel it. and who's making excuses? i know i'm not...personally, i was a pretty serious christian a couple of years ago and i can honestly say that i tried my hardest to be the best person i could be, that is, with jesus in my life...but something happened, not really something that i care to disclose, but it made me try even harder.....all the people in the church i used to kick it with tell me that they never knew someone that had tried as hard as me.....now, whether that be my problem on the day of judgement, or no problem, you can be coming in here saying that your way is the right way, and then say that you can't explain it, you can just feel it....after all, isn't jesus the god of everything? then what you stressin for homie? he'll come to us all in due time............
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i guess 70% of the worlds population is weak minded then man, u seem pretty stupid to me to make s bold statement like that.......but thats all i ll say
are you trying to say that 70% of the world have the Bible as their holy book?
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There are Christians who believe Jesus is God and then you have those who believe that Jesus is God's only begotten son. The Christian thought is a myriad of some truth, but more racist misconceptions and lies fulfill the Bible, then any other holy book, since the Bible is missing several Books in itself, but if Jesus is God then why did he say
"God why has thou forsaken me?" why would he pray to himself, looking up in the sky, when he was on his knees on the ground?
If he is God's only son, then how come Adam can't make that claim, since God's first son/creation was Adam , who was around a LOT longer than Jesus?
And besides those who followed Jesus never referred to themselves as Christians, but why do those who follow him know call themselves such?
Why do they read a Bible that is authorized by a faggot name KIng James? King James was a very open about his sexuality and when he was younger he had several sexual ecounters with his mother. Check out the history of King James and his one-time lover, the GREAT (LOL) William Shakespeare who reportedly "proof-read" and made several additions/subtractions to the Bible. In other words they changed the Holy Book to propogate Christian thought and ethics.
READ ABOUT THE NEED OF WHITE CHRISTIAN WORLD DOMINANCE IN A BOOK CALLED "THE GREAT COUNCIL OF NICEA." A factual book written by European Authors about the expansion of Christianity in Europe and Africa.
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lol
King James was gay and he did indeed preside over the publishing of a bible for the people in England after the reformation. But he did not have an affair with Shakespeare, that's a joke lol. Also, there were bibles out before 1611 lol.
Jesus said "My God why have you forsaken me" because he was talking to God, his spiritual father. Jesus is part of the trinity, in which christians hail Jesus as God's son. There is no problem with Jesus saying that and your point is invalid.
Jesus was revealed as Christ three days after his death, when he resurrected. That is why the name Christian came about wiseguy.
Guys, when reading Godbody's posts remember they are littered with holes and anti white attitude.
Peace
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lol
King James was gay and he did indeed preside over the publishing of a bible for the people in England after the reformation. But he did not have an affair with Shakespeare, that's a joke lol. Also, there were bibles out before 1611 lol.
Jesus said "My God why have you forsaken me" because he was talking to God, his spiritual father. Jesus is part of the trinity, in which christians hail Jesus as God's son. There is no problem with Jesus saying that and your point is invalid.
Jesus was revealed as Christ three days after his death, when he resurrected. That is why the name Christian came about wiseguy.
Guys, when reading Godbody's posts remember they are littered with holes and anti white attitude.
Peace
Okay my major League Cracka Pimp.
If I'm so wrong, which you have no proof but heresay, why do you Chrsitians swear by every word AUTHORIZED BY A FAGGOT? But you condemn Gays who want to be in the ministry?
KING JAMES AND SHAKESPEARE WERE LOVERS AND THAT'S A FACT. AND YES BIBLES WERE WRITTEN BEFORE, BUT HERE'S A QUESTION YOU MOTHERFUCKIN DON, YOU
IF THE BIBLE IS ACTUAL TRUTH, WHY HAS THE BIBLE BEEN REVISED SO MANY TIMES? YOU DON'T REVISE THE TRUTH, STUPID ASS.
AND THE TRINITY IS A JOKE IN ITSELF, HOW CAN YOU DIVIDE 3 INTO 1? THE FATHER, THE SON, THE HOLY GHOST IS A JOKE WITHIN ITSELF AND NOT ALL CHRISTIANS BELIEVE OR HOLD TRUTH TO THE TRINITY THAT WAS CREATED.
AND JESUS WAS NOT CALLED THE CHRIST 3 DAYS AFTER HIS DEATH, THE WORD CHRIST AND CHRISTIAN NEVER APPEARED IN TEXT OR HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS UNTIL WELL OVER 500 YEARS AFTER HIS DEATH.
Guy's when reading the Motherfuckin' Pimp's (oh great representation of Christianity Jay) post remember they are littered with inconsistencies, half-truths, falsehoods, and white supremacist thoughts and attitudes.
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LoL
However much you cuss, I'm not gonna rise to your little games
King James Bible
Protestant denomination. Authorized by the King. So? Your point? A gay person authorized the mass production of the bible 1,600 years after it was written, so somehow that devalues the Bible?
Right Godbody, I want proof, through links, book extracts whatever, that William Shakespeare had an affair with the King.
I don't care if the word Christian came into use 500 years after Jesus' death. My point was that the origin of the word christian came from the time when Jesus demonstrated himself to be christ.
And as for the trinity, a non christian would naturally find it hard to comprehend.
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LoL
King James Bible
Protestant denomination. Authorized by the King. So? Your point? A gay person authorized the mass production of the bible 1,600 years after it was written, so somehow that devalues the Bible?
Right Godbody, I want proof, through links, book extracts whatever, that William Shakespeare had an affair with the King.
Well I don't know about you, but I can't see the value and 100% truth of a book authorized, revised by a REAL "MOTHER-FUCKER" ANYONE WHO AT A YOUNG AGE HAS SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH HIS MOTHER, THEN HAS OPEN SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH OTHER MEN, AT THE SAME TIME DICTATES THAT HE IS 1. ROYALTY 2. A HOLY MAN 3. HE CAN SUCK DICK AND PRESIDE OVER A HOLY BOOK THAT HAS CAUSED MILLIONS TO BE KILLED. HOLDS VERY LITTLE VALUE TO ME.
AND LIKE I SAID I CAN PROVIDE ACTUAL FACTS TO SHAKESPEARE'S HOMOSEXUAL LIFESTYLE AND HIS RELATIONS TO KING JAMES, BUT YOU STILL NEED TO DISPROVE MY PRO-BLACK SHIT AS YOU CALL IT, IN REFERENCE TO JESUS, WHICH YOU STILL AND CAN'T PROVE TO BE FALSE!!!!!
SO ONE THING AT A TIME, BITCH. I MEAN BEE
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damn godbody u just fuck up good coverstaions.....
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As for Jews......Jesus is just god's son.....we dont discuss Jesus much
R-E-L, are you retarded? Jews dont belive Jesus is the son of God...LMAO
Too the Jews, Jesus was just another bad Jewish guy who got hung by the Romans...He isn't God or the son of God...LMAO
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all i know is that jesus was a messenger of
god and not God himself. He was like a preacher...like moses imo.
so pray to him if you like...that's a way of praying to God id say...cause he represented him...so praying to him is an indirect prayer towards God himself.
its all good
peace
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all i know is that jesus was a messenger of
god and not God himself. He was like a preacher...like moses imo.
so pray to him if you like...that's a way of praying to God id say...cause he represented him...so praying to him is an indirect prayer towards God himself.
its all good
peace
why not praying directly to God?? isnt it even better?
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Jesus ain't God. He was God's child - like me, you and everybody else on this planet. For further information search the net, key word: "Council of Nicea". Moreover please inform yourselves about John and his background - Greece. You cannot read the bible (AT(& Apocrypha)/ NT) without background knowledge.
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why not praying directly to God?? isnt it even better?
if u aint got no religion or if u don find it right to pray to certain representatives...then u can do that.
its just that suppose...if ur a chrisitian then its in christianity to follow and show respect to the representative of their relgion, which is jesus....
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if ur a chrisitian then its in christianity to follow and show respect to the representative of their relgion, which is jesus....
no... its God...
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no... its God...
i can't help that...its the way it is ibo
u have to respect the traditions and customs of ur religion...it may be wrong or it may be right....
i understand ur point though...
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i can't help that...its the way it is ibo
u have to respect the traditions and customs of ur religion...it may be wrong or it may be right....
i understand ur point though...
you dont get it... according to the Bible, God is the "big boss"... Neither God, nor Jesus told the christians that Jesus was representative... so people shall pray to God, and not Jesus... it doesnt matter if Jesus is "God's Son".. why pray to "Gods Son" when you can pray to God himself..??
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Jesus is our example, just pray to god like he did several times. Peace~