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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Real American on April 06, 2006, 05:48:14 PM
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20060331-105444-8398r.htm
Protesters' foreign flags alienate conservatives
By Joyce Howard Price
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
April 1, 2006
The waving of Mexican and other foreign flags at rallies across the country to protest proposed tough immigration reforms has created a backlash among conservative lawmakers, talk-radio hosts and others eager to stop the flood of illegal aliens into the United States.
Syndicated radio talk-show host Michael Savage, who has been one of the most outspoken on the issue, even urged listeners to burn the Mexican flag.
"But he says anyone who does that can expect a lot more trouble than they would face if they burned an American flag, since they could easily get away with that," Rep. Tom Tancredo said. The Colorado Republican said he has appeared on at least a dozen radio talk shows in the past few days, including Mr. Savage's, to address the "huge and growing problem" of illegal aliens entering the United States.
Mr. Tancredo said the hosts of all the talk shows he has appeared on have criticized the prominence of Mexican flags at the demonstrations.
For example, he said, Mike Gallagher, a talk-radio host in Los Angeles, told listeners he wants to start a fund on behalf of a young Mexican-American girl who dared to carry an American flag at one such rally and was forced to "duck and run" because of all the animosity she faced from those at the demonstration.
However, Alvaro Huerta, director of community education and advocacy for the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles, doubts the validity of the story.
"We wanted people to show their love for the United States, so many waved two flags: both the American flag and the flag of their country of origin," Mr. Huerta said yesterday.
He said the "majority of flags flown" at the immigration rallies "were definitely the Stars and Stripes."
Michael Harrison, editor and publisher of Talkers Magazine, which covers the talk-radio industry, said "immigration reform and protecting the border are the 'No. 1 topics' " on the air right now.
"Many of the conservative hosts are against the waving of the Mexican flag [at the rallies] and seeing such Mexican nationalism expressed in the United States, and they are quite loud" in their denunciations, Mr. Harrison said.
Rep. Virgil H. Goode Jr., Virginia Republican, is among those who are outraged by the prevalence of foreign flag-waving in demonstrations.
"Many of those demonstrating and waving the Mexican flag are apparently in the United States illegally," Mr. Goode said. "I say if you are here illegally and are displaying and waving the Mexican flag, you should go back to Mexico and fly that flag there."
Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, California Republican, also is concerned that so many immigrants are carrying and waving Mexican flags during demonstrations to protest proposed changes in the government's immigration policy.
"The congressman feels the predominance of Mexican flags at some rallies indicates the primary [national] loyalty of the people waving the flags," said Rick Dykema, Mr. Rohrabacher's chief of staff.
Mr. Tancredo said he shares that concern.
"This is really the dumbest thing [those favoring weak immigration laws] have ever done. It brings home the severity and magnitude of this huge and growing problem of illegal immigration," he said.
However, demonstrators say they carry flags from their native countries to show pride in their heritage and unity with fellow immigrants.
Carrying the flag of one's native land "represents culture and heritage, not national identity," Mr. Huerta said
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The media never shows the protestors with the American flags. How convenient.
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The media never shows the protestors with the American flags. How convenient.
What are you talking about? All the media shows is immigrants draped in American flags. Very few photos I have seen on TV or in mainstream newspapers have shown any foreign flags. I mean come on....since when is the media anti-immigrant?
I had to go to obscure websites to find the photos of the Mexican flags, racist banners, defaced American flags, etc that I posted the other day. Those are things the media does not want you to see. For example, the LA Times wouldn't dare show you this photo:
(http://michellemalkin.com/archives/images/costamesa.jpg)
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The media never shows the protestors with the American flags. How convenient.
What are you talking about? All the media shows is immigrants draped in American flags. Very few photos I have seen on TV or in mainstream newspapers have shown any foreign flags.
I had to go to obscure websites to find the photos of the Mexican flags, racist banners, defaced American flags, etc that I posted the other day. Those are things the media does not want you to see. For example, the LA Times wouldn't dare show you this photo:
(http://michellemalkin.com/archives/images/costamesa.jpg)
I guess you and I live in different universes. LMAO @ that picture though.
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Yeah that photo was taken at a protest in California. Remember how you lectured me about how racially tolerant your state is?
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You're judging the racial tolerance of California based on one sign?
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Yeah that photo was taken at a protest in California. Remember how you lectured me about how racially tolerant your state is?
if you think about it the photo is right. and i've seen a gang of videos and photos with Mexicans holding a U.S. flag
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The media never shows the protestors with the American flags. How convenient.
Keep in mind that the high school protestors with the American flags at high schools in my city were immediatley stopped by school secruity but the ones with the Mexican flags were allowed to continue. The liberal school officials believed the flying of the American flag was a hateful gesture, wow! talk about a double standard.
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People bitch about flags too much. Quit being fucking babies
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"Many of those demonstrating and waving the Mexican flag are apparently in the United States illegally," Mr. Goode said. "I say if you are here illegally and are displaying and waving the Mexican flag, you should go back to Mexico and fly that flag there."
And this idiot is a fucking politician? LMAO
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Real American? He's the one who admitted he likes to watch porno movies of men isnt he lol
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Marchers say gringos, not illegals, have to go
World Net Daily | March 29 2006
WASHINGTON – While debates about guest-worker programs for illegal aliens take place in the corridors of power, in the streets of America's big cities no amnesty is being offered by activists calling for the expulsion of most U.S. citizens from their own country.
While politicians debate the fate of some 12 million people residing in the U.S. illegally, the Mexica Movement, one of the organizers of the mass protest in Los Angeles this week, has already decided it is the "non-indigenous," white, English-speaking U.S. citizens of European descent who have to leave what they call "our continent."
The pictures and captions tell the story.
"This is our continent, not yours!" exclaimed one banner.
"We are indigenous! The only owners of this continent!" said another.
"If you think I'm illegal because I'm a Mexican, learn the true history, because I'm in my homeland," read another sign.
"One of the more negative parts of the march was when American flags were passed out to make sure the marchers were looked on as part of 'America,'" said the group's commentary on the L.A. rally.
Both Rep. James Sensebrenner, R-Wis., chairman of the House Judiciary Committee and a proponent of tougher border security, and California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger were caricatured as Nazis by the group on its posters and banners.
The group insists the indigenous people of the continent were the victims of genocide – a campaign of extermination that killed, according to one citation, 95 percent of their population, or 33 million people. Another citation on the same website claims the toll was 70 million to 100 million.
So there you have the admittance that they werent genuinely even waving the flag and the reason that the flag is important is because it highlights the desire of these people to take parts of the USA. In the case of mecha which the media mostly ignores they are prepared to do this through genocide.
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OLD and SILLY
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Has anyone seen photos and video of the latest protests? LOL, the organizers told everyone to stop bringing the flags of foreign countries and to only fly American flags. I guess they realized that it was pissing Americans off.
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if you think about it the photo is right. and i've seen a gang of videos and photos with Mexicans holding a U.S. flag
Um, most Mexicans have European blood.
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Has anyone seen photos and video of the latest protests? LOL, the organizers told everyone to stop bringing the flags of foreign countries and to only fly American flags. I guess they realized that it was pissing Americans off.
They have been saying this since Day 1.
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Has anyone seen photos and video of the latest protests? LOL, the organizers told everyone to stop bringing the flags of foreign countries and to only fly American flags. I guess they realized that it was pissing Americans off.
They have been saying this since Day 1.
Then how come there were tons of Mexican flags in the earlier protests, while in the latest protests there have been very few?
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Have you seen all of the protests? I live in L.A and I get to see all the news coverage from all the local protests in and around the L.A Area, including the big protest in Downtown L.A. I work in Downtown so I was able to see how many people actually took Mexican Flags and not many were taken. When I saw the pics a day after, they really concentrated on the people with Mexican flags. It's always been a low percentage of people taking Mexican Flags
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""Many of those demonstrating and waving the Mexican flag are apparently in the United States illegally,"
LMAO Seriously, that statement is a complete joke
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How is it a joke?
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It's not even close to being true. Mostly the people waving flags are actually U.S Citizens and son of immigrants.
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if you think about it the photo is right. and i've seen a gang of videos and photos with Mexicans holding a U.S. flag
Um, most Mexicans have European blood.
we have spanish blood yes but we also have indian blood
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^ like native american blood ?
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^ like native american blood ?
yes most mexicans are both spaniard & aztec or mayan depending on where your ancestors came from. there are some mexicans who are really light skinned, blue eyed, and blonde hair, these are people who come from mainly spaniard decent. for example my mother comes from aztec & spaniard blood but my father is mainly spaniard, i know so because when i was born i was light skinned, blue eyed, and had blonde hair. even til this day i am a lighter shade of brown & still have my colored eyes, though my hair is no longer blonde. it basically depends on a persons ancestors.
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^ thats cool, i never knew that...
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The media never shows the protestors with the American flags. How convenient.
What are you talking about? All the media shows is immigrants draped in American flags. Very few photos I have seen on TV or in mainstream newspapers have shown any foreign flags.
I had to go to obscure websites to find the photos of the Mexican flags, racist banners, defaced American flags, etc that I posted the other day. Those are things the media does not want you to see. For example, the LA Times wouldn't dare show you this photo:
(http://michellemalkin.com/archives/images/costamesa.jpg)
I guess you and I live in different universes. LMAO @ that picture though.
my homies were at the march down here in Diego. a lot of mexicans had American flags, and a lot had Mexican flags. No big deal if they waive Mexican flags, they should. Theyre proud of where they come from. Did that "Real American" idiot also post up pictures of all the racist white people....doing shit like burning Mexican flags and things like that?
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Has anyone seen photos and video of the latest protests? LOL, the organizers told everyone to stop bringing the flags of foreign countries and to only fly American flags. I guess they realized that it was pissing Americans off.
They have been saying this since Day 1.
Then how come there were tons of Mexican flags in the earlier protests, while in the latest protests there have been very few?
how many protests did u march in? lol. or did u hide in your cave? Any American that would get pissed at them waiving a Mexican flag isnt an American at all. This country is built up of people from everywhere. Arent u Polish anyways? You tellin me you arent proud of your heritage?
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The media never shows the protestors with the American flags. How convenient.
What are you talking about? All the media shows is immigrants draped in American flags. Very few photos I have seen on TV or in mainstream newspapers have shown any foreign flags.
I had to go to obscure websites to find the photos of the Mexican flags, racist banners, defaced American flags, etc that I posted the other day. Those are things the media does not want you to see. For example, the LA Times wouldn't dare show you this photo:
(http://michellemalkin.com/archives/images/costamesa.jpg)
I guess you and I live in different universes. LMAO @ that picture though.
my homies were at the march down here in Diego. a lot of mexicans had American flags, and a lot had Mexican flags. No big deal if they waive Mexican flags, they should. Theyre proud of where they come from. Did that "Real American" idiot also post up pictures of all the racist white people....doing shit like burning Mexican flags and things like that?
He actually praised them for doing that because it was a reply to the handful of Mexicans that turned the flag upside down at a High School. After all, racism is cured by more racism. :laugh:
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I went to the rally here in St. Paul, MN, and there was a bunch of Mexicans drapped in American flags. It was like for every Mexican flag you saw, like 20 to 30 more U.S. flags. There was no putting one flag over the other, or upside down American flags, just a lot of red white and blue, with some red white and green, and a little bit of Guatamalen and El Salvadorian flags.
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He actually praised them for doing that because it was a reply to the handful of Mexicans that turned the flag upside down at a High School. After all, racism is cured by more racism. :laugh:
Yeah I definitely admire the Americans who burned the Mexican flag. For a group of people to move into our country and deface our flag but putting another flag above it is nothing but an inflammatory attack. Of course people will respond by burning the Mexican flag...any clear thinking person in any country in the world would do the same.
There is nothing wrong with burning the Mexican flag. This isn't Mexico despite what some people might want to think. People in other countries burn our American flag all the time. Why can't we burn theres? The Mexican government is causing this whole problem anyway. They are the ones who can't manage their country and dump all their excess poor people on the United States. What if the US didn't exist and they had nowehere to go? Then Mexico would be twice as shitty as it already is.
God bless America.
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how many protests did u march in? lol. or did u hide in your cave? Any American that would get pissed at them waiving a Mexican flag isnt an American at all. This country is built up of people from everywhere. Arent u Polish anyways? You tellin me you arent proud of your heritage?
I would never protest in favor of criminal activity (illegal immigration). I am not Polish, I am American. But my dad was born in Poland and he came to this country the legal way. It isn't fair that so many Mexicans cut in front of the millions of people trying to enter America the right way, just like my father.
And you are wrong, most Americans were pissed by the Mexican flags. This isn't Mexico, this is America. if you love Mexico so much then go back. if you want to embrace America then you are more than welcome, but don't wave the flags of foreign countries in our faces. Just like it would be wrong to go down to mexico and wave the Stars and Stripes in the face of every Mexican I saw, waving the Mexican flag here is just as wrong.
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He actually praised them for doing that because it was a reply to the handful of Mexicans that turned the flag upside down at a High School. After all, racism is cured by more racism. :laugh:
Yeah I definitely admire the Americans who burned the Mexican flag. For a group of people to move into our country and deface our flag but putting another flag above it is nothing but an inflammatory attack. Of course people will respond by burning the Mexican flag...any clear thinking person in any country in the world would do the same.
There is nothing wrong with burning the Mexican flag. This isn't Mexico despite what some people might want to think. People in other countries burn our American flag all the time. Why can't we burn theres? The Mexican government is causing this whole problem anyway. They are the ones who can't manage their country and dump all their excess poor people on the United States. What if the US didn't exist and they had nowehere to go? Then Mexico would be twice as shitty as it already is.
God bless America.
::) If the US didn't exist Mexico would still have most of it's land and your Pollack ass would be in the "less conservative" Europe.
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The people that burn the American Flag in other parts of the country are protesting the U.S. Government not it's people. Like I've stated before, of course it was wrong for teenagers to do that to the American flag but how is burning the Mexican flag a response worth to admire? You're basically joining the extremist on the side you think it's right fighting that are fighting vs what some teenagers did, LMAO
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The people that burn the American Flag in other parts of the country are protesting the U.S. Government not it's people. Like I've stated before, of course it was wrong for teenagers to do that to the American flag but how is burning the Mexican flag a response worth to admire? You're basically joining the extremist on the side you think it's right fighting that are fighting vs what some teenagers did, LMAO
Because the people burning the Mexican flag are burning it because it was raised above our flag. Of course people will react like that when it has been given supremacy over our flag. What do you expect?
And the Minutemen who burned the Mexican flag outside the Mexican consulate were protesting the Mexican government and its huge role in the immigration debacle.
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The Minutemen should burn the American Flag infront of Congress. You do realize that you're fighting teens right? LOL Pathetic
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No adult peaceful protester has done anything wrong to the American Flag, like M Dogg pointed out all they have been doing is carrying the American flag along with flags from around the world.