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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Triple OG Rapsodie on June 12, 2009, 02:13:53 PM
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He made love songs back then, he rapped about being a gangster, and he rapped about money. Pretty much the same topics he raps about nowadays. His lyrical ability hasn't really changed. The only difference is his production and he sounds a little less hungry. So why do people act like he's suddenly changed from being good to being bad? Could it be people have just gotten tired of his shtick?
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He wasn't making love songs on his mixtapes prior to Get Rich or Die Trying, and he was definately dope back then. After all, Em and Dre wouldn't have gave him a million just to sign otherwise.
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50's always been down with the r&b, smooth style.
The Glow of a Thug - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7muX3bxAvs
He only had a couple tracks before blowing up about women but I always thought it made sense. The women came once he blew up so he wanted to attract them.
Here are the reasons why,
1. I'm still a fan and listen to his music but he doesn't spit like this anymore: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoK3dl8XvpE
The passion is missing in the vocals. You can hear him sound hungry. It started leaving post Get Rich. I actually think this is the biggest reason people ain't feeling him as much. Dude just doesn't sound the same when he spits.
2. 50 dissed Ja Rule for all those pop orientated women songs then made songs like Amusement Park and Candy Shop. He essentially jocked Ja's style with those.
3. 50 and Unit been in so many damn beefs he done alienated his own fans. And the bullshit with Game which should've been handled behind close doors. That is, 50 shouldn't have said it out in public that Game was out of the Unit, he should've been more political. Besides 50 made a really poor career choice with this move. He could've held the industry on lock by having Game stay on G-Unit records.
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its because he wanted to make hits back then.
now he just wants to remake hits.
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That's actually the problem if you ask me. He rarely shows growth, which all comes from his ridiculous statement that you mustn't show emotions on records because it makes you vulnerable to other rappers. Considering Eminem is his mentor and the guy is known for his introspective songs that makes no sense. And he has so much topics to rap about: being called a snitch, old hood buddies, ex G-Unit members, Interscope records, baby momma drama, pressure of the fame...
He touched some of those subjects in "Burn" which is his best song since Hustler Ambition imo.
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That's actually the problem if you ask me. He rarely shows growth, which all comes from his ridiculous statement that you mustn't show emotions on records because it makes you vulnerable to other rappers. Considering Eminem is his mentor and the guy is known for his introspective songs that makes no sense. And he has so much topics to rap about: being called a snitch, old hood buddies, ex G-Unit members, Interscope records, baby momma drama, pressure of the fame...
He touched some of those subjects in "Burn" which is his best song since Hustler Ambition imo.
I agree with you. If he really did write Hate It Or Love It, which I believe he did, then he should've released that for his single on The Massacre. His first came off as super personal and confessional.
The video for Many Men is easily in my top ten rap videos,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aWeZosFoU0&feature=related
Aye, did a no dj dirty version of Burn leak?
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He touched some of those subjects in "Burn" which is his best song since Hustler Ambition imo.
Did this track ever leak in CDQ? Shit was dope...
I think it's the fact that like everyones saying, he lost all his hunger, and just doesn't sound as raw anymore... He didn't become like Ja Rule, he never tried to harmonize lol, but he did sell out. I Get Money is still his dopest banger in a long time, simply cos it sounded different...
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50 was hot, now hes just cold product....simple as that
He didnt change, and thats his problem.....thts the problem with most artists who show no lyrical progress, fans hear the same shit, so that shits not hot anymore.....
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He wasn't making love songs on his mixtapes prior to Get Rich or Die Trying, and he was definately dope back then. After all, Em and Dre wouldn't have gave him a million just to sign otherwise.
Fact. Power of the Dollar had several love songs on it.
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Of course he is the same, i think people are juts growing tired. its normal its a process same happened with ice cube, dre,snoop, dmx, jigga, ja rule and same will with Lil Wayne
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its because he wanted to make hits back then.
now he just wants to remake hits.
Yah...he aint trying to make new fresh shit, hes trying so hard to re-create his old shit, sounds pathetic!!!
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back when gangsta rap was still the shit, he was runnin' with it.
then on Massacre he realized Lollipop was one of the biggest singles in music, so he kind of never stopped taking that route once he blew up gettin' away with it.
he still raps about some gangsta shit, but it isn't as hard as he use to be & it's so clear.
but back in the day with Power of The Dollar & Get Rich or Die Tryin', he was just killin' it & don't even front people were making comparisons to Tupac lol.
i guess his style never really changed or his swag, but he was such a better artist back when he was hungry & it's beyond noticable.
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The problem is and has been with 50 for a while is that he looks at music as a formula and he has the winning plan every time out to win over fans. The problem is when or if it does not work he makes excuses. Yes alot of his success on some singles was him going against Interscope and leaking tracks on his own. Now he should just give up on trying to make another In The Club and just concentrate on making a dope record period. If it catches on in the club, great. If not, cool.
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^lol, yeah; 50 truly believes that one day he will make something that tops In Da Club & he hasn't come close.
not even with Outta Control OG or Remix & both of those records are dope as FUCK! 8)
just concentrate on making a dope record period.
word.
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lol, wow... power of the dollar 50 is a completely different rapper than 09 50
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lol, wow... power of the dollar 50 is a completely different rapper than 09 50
Yup, Power Of The Dollar is an ill album... Bear in mind that's before he got shot though... I always thought "Guess Who Back" was a sick street album
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He wasn't making love songs on his mixtapes prior to Get Rich or Die Trying, and he was definately dope back then. After all, Em and Dre wouldn't have gave him a million just to sign otherwise.
Fact. Power of the Dollar had several love songs on it.
lol.
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there difference between 50 when he made Power of Da Dollar and 50 now is that back then it actually seemed like he took more then 3 minutes to write his songs... his new shit is so sloppy and wack that my 8 year old nephew couldīve written it and iīm being dead serious.