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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Connection => Topic started by: Sccit on April 21, 2022, 12:04:12 AM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?&v=0DgCG7so35E&feature=emb_title
smh technology gettin way too advanced at this point
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Big quotes for "Eminem", which will probably blow right past a lot of people.
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Big quotes for "Eminem", which will probably blow right past a lot of people.
tell me this didn’t trip u out tho
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That AI is wild. Someone made some pac songs a while back.
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That AI is wild. Someone made some pac songs a while back.
Could you point me in the direction of the pac songs
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https://youtu.be/L-rtDy0CJnU
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https://youtu.be/xbFD1XSmY48
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Wow... (light bulb goes off in head, then breaks) Uhhh.. can someone teach me how to do this shit.. lol...
I wanna get Pac rappin bout flat earth and Covid is a hoax... that will make my life worth it
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Wow... (light bulb goes off in head, then breaks) Uhhh.. can someone teach me how to do this shit.. lol...
I wanna get Pac rappin bout flat earth and Covid is a hoax... that will make my life worth it
It's amazing how bad you have to be at science to believe a word of this. It almost deserves some kind of award.
One of the many ironies is that a number of people from this fringe group of flat-earthers have been accidentally proving the earth is round with their "experiments."
It's a fundamental fact of calculus and non-euclidean geometry (neither of which these people are remotely familiar with) that small sections of large curved surfaces will always appear flat to smaller organisms - also part of a small Einsteinian concept called relativity. Understanding a bit about relative distance and the laws of gravity is also helpful. Of course, this is a symptom of a much larger problem: basic education.
The unfounded conspiracy theories around disease and medicine aren't even worth addressing again. Social media is where facts go to die.
Luckily you're not a person of influence like a politician or a celebrity so being completely wrong on all accounts isn't nearly as harmful.
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It's amazing how bad you have to be at science to believe a word of this. It almost deserves some kind of award.
One of the many ironies is that a number of people from this fringe group of flat-earthers have been accidentally proving the earth is round with their "experiments."
It's a fundamental fact of calculus and non-euclidean geometry (neither of which these people are remotely familiar with) that small sections of large curved surfaces will always appear flat to smaller organisms - also part of a small Einsteinian concept called relativity. Understanding a bit about relative distance and the laws of gravity is also helpful. Of course, this is a symptom of a much larger problem: basic education.
The unfounded conspiracy theories around disease and medicine aren't even worth addressing again. Social media is where facts go to die.
Luckily you're not a person of influence like a politician or a celebrity so being completely wrong on all accounts isn't nearly as harmful.
I never made it to calculus, and I don't know Einstein's Theory of Relativity.
As for what I can see with my own two eyes is the moon lit up, the flat surface I walk upon, and everything from the water in my cup, to the water in the Arabian Sea being flat as far as the eye can see and even further with a telescope.
I'm not gonna take the so-called experts word for it on blind faith just because you say they know more than me. Those are the same people that think it is too dangerous to shake hands with people and breathe the same air.
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I never made it to calculus, and I don't know Einstein's Theory of Relativity.
As for what I can see with my own two eyes is the moon lit up, the flat surface I walk upon, and everything from the water in my cup, to the water in the Arabian Sea being flat as far as the eye can see and even further with a telescope.
I'm not gonna take the so-called experts word for it on blind faith just because you say they know more than me. Those are the same people that think it is too dangerous to shake hands with people and breathe the same air.
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I think the fact that you know nothing about math or physics goes without saying. Anyone can prove to themselves conclusively that the earth is a sphere by looking at objects in the sky - like the moon and the stars - and thinking with their brains.
How about testing the validity of your hypothesis? The answers are so mind-numbingly obvious that the fact that you haven't done them is an immediate indicator of your complete lack of intellectual integrity. You'll see what I mean with the following:
1. Pull out your flat earth map and look at it. Anyone with a half a brain can immediately tell it doesn't correlate with reality but since you have a smaller fraction, let's do a few things to prove it. For example, make a scale. You know, that thing on maps that tells you how far away things are from each other. In case you still don't know what I'm talking about, pull up a map of the U.S. and you'll see one in the corner. You can pick two cities and determine the approximate distance between them. Then you can drive your car from one to another and VERIFY that it's the correct distance. Now back to your little map. Where's the scale? Why is one never included? Is it because it's impossible? Yes. That is exactly why. And if you disagree, here's your challenge: Pick some distance on your map - a centimeter, an inch, whatever. Tell me the distance it corresponds to in reality. Then pick some cities and use your scale to determine the distance between them. Pick two on the same continent, pick two on different continents. Use it to tell me how wide your disproportionately enormous ocean is. Use it to tell me literally anything about the distances between literally anything. When you can't do it, and your numbers do not correlate with reality in the slightest, recall that the other map - you know, the real one - does it just fine and then admit that your map is stupid. Your complete inability to make any kind of remotely legitimate map single-handedly proves the earth isn't flat.
But let's continue just for fun.
2. As we all know, the existence of Antarctica poses a huge problem for you. When it is summer in the northern hemisphere, you love to pretend that the sun moves inwards to one tropic, making the days longer here, and shorter in the southern hemisphere. And then when it's winter in the north, you like to put the sun at the other tropic, which you think gives you the shorter day up north that you want but in the south it's total chaos. You have the sun tracing this enormous trajectory, which would leave everything outside of it in complete darkness for most of the day, when in reality, there are long periods of time in Antarctica where the sun never sets - like, for MONTHS. Since your dinky little sun can never illuminate this entire fancy ice-wall at once, this completely obliterates your model, which is why you resort to conspiracy. You simply deny that this midnight sun ever occurs, while claiming that no one can go to Antarctica to verify for themselves because the government NASA jew penguins will kill you. Apart from all the commercial cruises, civilians can apply for jobs there so you totally could go see for yourself. But you don't even have to go all the way to Antarctica - just go to the tip of S America - like Ushuaia - where people live. Or, don't even go there - just look up time of sunrise and sunset on the internet. In mid-December, sunrise is earlier than 5am and sunset is later than 10pm. Now take your little model for the seasons and make it show night and day. Then try and make the night and day portions match up with these sunrise and sunset times. Demonstrate the light from the sun illuminating this location for more than 70% of its trajectory. And as you do that, make sure that it does not illuminate Point Barrow, Alaska whatsoever during its entire trajectory, as that town has endless night during this time of the year. Good luck. If you decide to even try, observe that the light patterns become so nonsensical that not even the most meth-fueled creatives amongst you could vomit enough magnetism jargon to justify it. If you can't make your model show the same seasons and night and day at the same time - which you can't - seriously consider shutting up forever.
3. Here's an idea: make a prediction with your model - like, ANY prediction. You know, those things you have to do in science for it to be science? Pick any celestial object. A planet. A comet. A star. Now pick any time in the future. And using only the flat earth model and nothing else, tell us where it will be at that time. If you can't do this - and I know you can't - consider admitting that you model is absolutely irrelevant. People who actually understand the geometry of the earth and solar system can predict a solar eclipse, specifying the start and end time down to the second, tracing its precise path down to the square mile. Doing that even a single time means the model used to make that prediction has been undeniably verified, and it's done every single time. Anyone who doesn't see the importance of this has no clue how science works.
4. Your plain eyesight argument is classic. You guys love this one because you can lie about heights and distances, do incorrect math, and in general act incredulous without having to actually do any science. Fudging the numbers about how close or far an object is - particularly when they're always over water - allows you to lie about refractive effects to people who have no idea how refraction works, which ironically is probably you but your higher-ups know what I mean. Try this: show us a picture of something over land that's far away, like 1,000 miles away. May I suggest the middle of the country so there's nothing in the way. It's a straight show after all, so what's the problem? Use a telescope. Pull Las Vegas into focus from Dallas, Texas. When you can't, maybe consider halting your blind perpetuation of the dumbest internet hoax on the fucking planet.
5. Explain sunsets. The most hilarious thing about flat-earthers is that most mundane, everyday observations make absolutely no sense in your model.... like a sunset. A small sun above a flat earth would simply recede high in the sky and get smaller and smaller until it fades away. It absolutely would not retain the same angular size and set below the horizon like it does in reality. It stays the same size because it's unbelievably far away, and it sets below the horizon because the earth is a sphere that is turning (even 2pac had a song called "As the world turns" so he's not the idiot you want him to be). Even a toddler can understand this. It's so blatantly obvious that you have to resort to your typical ad hoc antics, talking about refractive effects that defy all logic and somehow magically apply to the sun but nothing else. Or even better: Some of you talk about a dome with the sun on the other side that produces some bizarre optical effect. Apart from the sheer absurdity of this magical dome that no one has ever seen or touched, it creates big problems for you because you also claim that the sun and moon perform other kinds of magic to push the air and water around to get tides and storms and whatever else. that would require that it is inside the dome. So which is it? Is the sun outside the magical nonexistent dome so you can pretend to get the sunset, or is it inside the magical nonexistent dome so you can pretend to get the tides? It can't be both. Or is you bail on the dome and say it's just water, how do all those water molecules that make up ~1% of the atmosphere produce a thousand times greater refractive effect than actual liquid water? How does the appearance of a sunset never vary at all whether it's dry, humid, or raining? Why does nothing else but the sun behave that way? Show us a projectile or a plane going below the horizon as it recedes. Or show us the bogus dome and explain the phenomena with more than just buzzwords. So something to explain a sunset. Do anything besides making idiotic statements (and videos with action movie soundtracks) that contradict middle school level science.
6. Say anything about a lunar eclipse. What the hell is a lunar eclipse to you? Seriously. Explain anything about it. The things you guys say about solar eclipses are stupid enough, but at least you say something. A lunar eclipse happens when the earth gets between the sun and moon. Yes, that's right - in between. These two objects are no perpetually above a flat plane and you know it, which is why you guys are totally silent on lunar eclipses. And if you're going to propose that some other object besides earth is what obscures the moon, good luck trying to demonstrate its existence. By the way, the shadow that is cast during the eclipse is spherical. Hmmm...
7. What's stopping you from strapping a camera to a weather balloon and sending it up there to take some pictures? If you get crafty with some robotics, which is a stretch given your complete lack of education, you could even scoop up a little sample. Maybe the moon is made of cheese after all.
8. Get on an airplane and take some flights - like any direct flight in the southern hemisphere. Shouldn't that be impossible? Better yet, fly between two cities two different ways - the shortest way on the globe and shortest way on your flat earth model. Which one do you think will be faster? I'm kidding, I know you'll never be employed long enough to afford a private jet. But next time you're on a regular plane, notice that flights going east or west are not constantly turning slightly to one side, as you seem to believe they mist be if we're living on a fucking disk. Yeah, you would notice that. If humanity is unfortunate enough that you've actually procreated, send your kid up to the cockpit to meet the pilot and snap a pic of the wheel. What do you know, straight as an arrow.
9. Finally, do anything scientific. At all. Publish anything whatsoever about your model in anything reputable anywhere. Invent any technology based on your model. Do anything at all that could be considered empirical science. Here's a hint: You may have to study some real science yo do it, but then of course you would immediately learn that the earth isn't flat, so it probably won't be of much use.
I challenge you to all of these things in a facetious manner since you will immediately recognize the futility and instead resort to your usual ramblings. Doing anything remotely empirical demolishes your flat earth hoax, which is why you stick to shouting conspiracy and very little else. But something tells me I know more about your flat earth bullshit than you do and you're just a mindless follower hanging on to the only thing that makes you feel special. Maybe 2022 is the year you finally get a clue and move on with your life. There's a whole spherical world out there - a world filled with people who won't instantly mock you or be ashamed to know you. There are SO many opportunities to actually be a person of even minor consequence.
I know I've been hard on you, but I really am rooting for you. All you have to do is disengage from these charlatans that lie for a living. Save that $10 superchat and buy yourself some dignity, or even put it in a college fund so you can go to school and learn something useful. The choice is yours. Good luck and good night.
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I think the fact that you know nothing about math or physics goes without saying. Anyone can prove to themselves conclusively that the earth is a sphere by looking at objects in the sky - like the moon and the stars - and thinking with their brains.
How about testing the validity of your hypothesis? The answers are so mind-numbingly obvious that the fact that you haven't done them is an immediate indicator of your complete lack of intellectual integrity. You'll see what I mean with the following:
1. Pull out your flat earth map and look at it. Anyone with a half a brain can immediately tell it doesn't correlate with reality but since you have a smaller fraction, let's do a few things to prove it. For example, make a scale. You know, that thing on maps that tells you how far away things are from each other. In case you still don't know what I'm talking about, pull up a map of the U.S. and you'll see one in the corner. You can pick two cities and determine the approximate distance between them. Then you can drive your car from one to another and VERIFY that it's the correct distance. Now back to your little map. Where's the scale? Why is one never included? Is it because it's impossible? Yes. That is exactly why. And if you disagree, here's your challenge: Pick some distance on your map - a centimeter, an inch, whatever. Tell me the distance it corresponds to in reality. Then pick some cities and use your scale to determine the distance between them. Pick two on the same continent, pick two on different continents. Use it to tell me how wide your disproportionately enormous ocean is. Use it to tell me literally anything about the distances between literally anything. When you can't do it, and your numbers do not correlate with reality in the slightest, recall that the other map - you know, the real one - does it just fine and then admit that your map is stupid. Your complete inability to make any kind of remotely legitimate map single-handedly proves the earth isn't flat.
But let's continue just for fun.
2. As we all know, the existence of Antarctica poses a huge problem for you. When it is summer in the northern hemisphere, you love to pretend that the sun moves inwards to one tropic, making the days longer here, and shorter in the southern hemisphere. And then when it's winter in the north, you like to put the sun at the other tropic, which you think gives you the shorter day up north that you want but in the south it's total chaos. You have the sun tracing this enormous trajectory, which would leave everything outside of it in complete darkness for most of the day, when in reality, there are long periods of time in Antarctica where the sun never sets - like, for MONTHS. Since your dinky little sun can never illuminate this entire fancy ice-wall at once, this completely obliterates your model, which is why you resort to conspiracy. You simply deny that this midnight sun ever occurs, while claiming that no one can go to Antarctica to verify for themselves because the government NASA jew penguins will kill you. Apart from all the commercial cruises, civilians can apply for jobs there so you totally could go see for yourself. But you don't even have to go all the way to Antarctica - just go to the tip of S America - like Ushuaia - where people live. Or, don't even go there - just look up time of sunrise and sunset on the internet. In mid-December, sunrise is earlier than 5am and sunset is later than 10pm. Now take your little model for the seasons and make it show night and day. Then try and make the night and day portions match up with these sunrise and sunset times. Demonstrate the light from the sun illuminating this location for more than 70% of its trajectory. And as you do that, make sure that it does not illuminate Point Barrow, Alaska whatsoever during its entire trajectory, as that town has endless night during this time of the year. Good luck. If you decide to even try, observe that the light patterns become so nonsensical that not even the most meth-fueled creatives amongst you could vomit enough magnetism jargon to justify it. If you can't make your model show the same seasons and night and day at the same time - which you can't - seriously consider shutting up forever.
3. Here's an idea: make a prediction with your model - like, ANY prediction. You know, those things you have to do in science for it to be science? Pick any celestial object. A planet. A comet. A star. Now pick any time in the future. And using only the flat earth model and nothing else, tell us where it will be at that time. If you can't do this - and I know you can't - consider admitting that you model is absolutely irrelevant. People who actually understand the geometry of the earth and solar system can predict a solar eclipse, specifying the start and end time down to the second, tracing its precise path down to the square mile. Doing that even a single time means the model used to make that prediction has been undeniably verified, and it's done every single time. Anyone who doesn't see the importance of this has no clue how science works.
4. Your plain eyesight argument is classic. You guys love this one because you can lie about heights and distances, do incorrect math, and in general act incredulous without having to actually do any science. Fudging the numbers about how close or far an object is - particularly when they're always over water - allows you to lie about refractive effects to people who have no idea how refraction works, which ironically is probably you but your higher-ups know what I mean. Try this: show us a picture of something over land that's far away, like 1,000 miles away. May I suggest the middle of the country so there's nothing in the way. It's a straight show after all, so what's the problem? Use a telescope. Pull Las Vegas into focus from Dallas, Texas. When you can't, maybe consider halting your blind perpetuation of the dumbest internet hoax on the fucking planet.
5. Explain sunsets. The most hilarious thing about flat-earthers is that most mundane, everyday observations make absolutely no sense in your model.... like a sunset. A small sun above a flat earth would simply recede high in the sky and get smaller and smaller until it fades away. It absolutely would not retain the same angular size and set below the horizon like it does in reality. It stays the same size because it's unbelievably far away, and it sets below the horizon because the earth is a sphere that is turning (even 2pac had a song called "As the world turns" so he's not the idiot you want him to be). Even a toddler can understand this. It's so blatantly obvious that you have to resort to your typical ad hoc antics, talking about refractive effects that defy all logic and somehow magically apply to the sun but nothing else. Or even better: Some of you talk about a dome with the sun on the other side that produces some bizarre optical effect. Apart from the sheer absurdity of this magical dome that no one has ever seen or touched, it creates big problems for you because you also claim that the sun and moon perform other kinds of magic to push the air and water around to get tides and storms and whatever else. that would require that it is inside the dome. So which is it? Is the sun outside the magical nonexistent dome so you can pretend to get the sunset, or is it inside the magical nonexistent dome so you can pretend to get the tides? It can't be both. Or is you bail on the dome and say it's just water, how do all those water molecules that make up ~1% of the atmosphere produce a thousand times greater refractive effect than actual liquid water? How does the appearance of a sunset never vary at all whether it's dry, humid, or raining? Why does nothing else but the sun behave that way? Show us a projectile or a plane going below the horizon as it recedes. Or show us the bogus dome and explain the phenomena with more than just buzzwords. So something to explain a sunset. Do anything besides making idiotic statements (and videos with action movie soundtracks) that contradict middle school level science.
6. Say anything about a lunar eclipse. What the hell is a lunar eclipse to you? Seriously. Explain anything about it. The things you guys say about solar eclipses are stupid enough, but at least you say something. A lunar eclipse happens when the earth gets between the sun and moon. Yes, that's right - in between. These two objects are no perpetually above a flat plane and you know it, which is why you guys are totally silent on lunar eclipses. And if you're going to propose that some other object besides earth is what obscures the moon, good luck trying to demonstrate its existence. By the way, the shadow that is cast during the eclipse is spherical. Hmmm...
7. What's stopping you from strapping a camera to a weather balloon and sending it up there to take some pictures? If you get crafty with some robotics, which is a stretch given your complete lack of education, you could even scoop up a little sample. Maybe the moon is made of cheese after all.
8. Get on an airplane and take some flights - like any direct flight in the southern hemisphere. Shouldn't that be impossible? Better yet, fly between two cities two different ways - the shortest way on the globe and shortest way on your flat earth model. Which one do you think will be faster? I'm kidding, I know you'll never be employed long enough to afford a private jet. But next time you're on a regular plane, notice that flights going east or west are not constantly turning slightly to one side, as you seem to believe they mist be if we're living on a fucking disk. Yeah, you would notice that. If humanity is unfortunate enough that you've actually procreated, send your kid up to the cockpit to meet the pilot and snap a pic of the wheel. What do you know, straight as an arrow.
9. Finally, do anything scientific. At all. Publish anything whatsoever about your model in anything reputable anywhere. Invent any technology based on your model. Do anything at all that could be considered empirical science. Here's a hint: You may have to study some real science yo do it, but then of course you would immediately learn that the earth isn't flat, so it probably won't be of much use.
I challenge you to all of these things in a facetious manner since you will immediately recognize the futility and instead resort to your usual ramblings. Doing anything remotely empirical demolishes your flat earth hoax, which is why you stick to shouting conspiracy and very little else. But something tells me I know more about your flat earth bullshit than you do and you're just a mindless follower hanging on to the only thing that makes you feel special. Maybe 2022 is the year you finally get a clue and move on with your life. There's a whole spherical world out there - a world filled with people who won't instantly mock you or be ashamed to know you. There are SO many opportunities to actually be a person of even minor consequence.
I know I've been hard on you, but I really am rooting for you. All you have to do is disengage from these charlatans that lie for a living. Save that $10 superchat and buy yourself some dignity, or even put it in a college fund so you can go to school and learn something useful. The choice is yours. Good luck and good night.
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[SIGH]
I think the fact that you know nothing about math or physics goes without saying. Anyone can prove to themselves conclusively that the earth is a sphere by looking at objects in the sky - like the moon and the stars - and thinking with their brains.
How about testing the validity of your hypothesis? The answers are so mind-numbingly obvious that the fact that you haven't done them is an immediate indicator of your complete lack of intellectual integrity. You'll see what I mean with the following:
1. Pull out your flat earth map and look at it. Anyone with a half a brain can immediately tell it doesn't correlate with reality but since you have a smaller fraction, let's do a few things to prove it. For example, make a scale. You know, that thing on maps that tells you how far away things are from each other. In case you still don't know what I'm talking about, pull up a map of the U.S. and you'll see one in the corner. You can pick two cities and determine the approximate distance between them. Then you can drive your car from one to another and VERIFY that it's the correct distance. Now back to your little map. Where's the scale? Why is one never included? Is it because it's impossible? Yes. That is exactly why. And if you disagree, here's your challenge: Pick some distance on your map - a centimeter, an inch, whatever. Tell me the distance it corresponds to in reality. Then pick some cities and use your scale to determine the distance between them. Pick two on the same continent, pick two on different continents. Use it to tell me how wide your disproportionately enormous ocean is. Use it to tell me literally anything about the distances between literally anything. When you can't do it, and your numbers do not correlate with reality in the slightest, recall that the other map - you know, the real one - does it just fine and then admit that your map is stupid. Your complete inability to make any kind of remotely legitimate map single-handedly proves the earth isn't flat.
But let's continue just for fun.
2. As we all know, the existence of Antarctica poses a huge problem for you. When it is summer in the northern hemisphere, you love to pretend that the sun moves inwards to one tropic, making the days longer here, and shorter in the southern hemisphere. And then when it's winter in the north, you like to put the sun at the other tropic, which you think gives you the shorter day up north that you want but in the south it's total chaos. You have the sun tracing this enormous trajectory, which would leave everything outside of it in complete darkness for most of the day, when in reality, there are long periods of time in Antarctica where the sun never sets - like, for MONTHS. Since your dinky little sun can never illuminate this entire fancy ice-wall at once, this completely obliterates your model, which is why you resort to conspiracy. You simply deny that this midnight sun ever occurs, while claiming that no one can go to Antarctica to verify for themselves because the government NASA jew penguins will kill you. Apart from all the commercial cruises, civilians can apply for jobs there so you totally could go see for yourself. But you don't even have to go all the way to Antarctica - just go to the tip of S America - like Ushuaia - where people live. Or, don't even go there - just look up time of sunrise and sunset on the internet. In mid-December, sunrise is earlier than 5am and sunset is later than 10pm. Now take your little model for the seasons and make it show night and day. Then try and make the night and day portions match up with these sunrise and sunset times. Demonstrate the light from the sun illuminating this location for more than 70% of its trajectory. And as you do that, make sure that it does not illuminate Point Barrow, Alaska whatsoever during its entire trajectory, as that town has endless night during this time of the year. Good luck. If you decide to even try, observe that the light patterns become so nonsensical that not even the most meth-fueled creatives amongst you could vomit enough magnetism jargon to justify it. If you can't make your model show the same seasons and night and day at the same time - which you can't - seriously consider shutting up forever.
3. Here's an idea: make a prediction with your model - like, ANY prediction. You know, those things you have to do in science for it to be science? Pick any celestial object. A planet. A comet. A star. Now pick any time in the future. And using only the flat earth model and nothing else, tell us where it will be at that time. If you can't do this - and I know you can't - consider admitting that you model is absolutely irrelevant. People who actually understand the geometry of the earth and solar system can predict a solar eclipse, specifying the start and end time down to the second, tracing its precise path down to the square mile. Doing that even a single time means the model used to make that prediction has been undeniably verified, and it's done every single time. Anyone who doesn't see the importance of this has no clue how science works.
4. Your plain eyesight argument is classic. You guys love this one because you can lie about heights and distances, do incorrect math, and in general act incredulous without having to actually do any science. Fudging the numbers about how close or far an object is - particularly when they're always over water - allows you to lie about refractive effects to people who have no idea how refraction works, which ironically is probably you but your higher-ups know what I mean. Try this: show us a picture of something over land that's far away, like 1,000 miles away. May I suggest the middle of the country so there's nothing in the way. It's a straight show after all, so what's the problem? Use a telescope. Pull Las Vegas into focus from Dallas, Texas. When you can't, maybe consider halting your blind perpetuation of the dumbest internet hoax on the fucking planet.
5. Explain sunsets. The most hilarious thing about flat-earthers is that most mundane, everyday observations make absolutely no sense in your model.... like a sunset. A small sun above a flat earth would simply recede high in the sky and get smaller and smaller until it fades away. It absolutely would not retain the same angular size and set below the horizon like it does in reality. It stays the same size because it's unbelievably far away, and it sets below the horizon because the earth is a sphere that is turning (even 2pac had a song called "As the world turns" so he's not the idiot you want him to be). Even a toddler can understand this. It's so blatantly obvious that you have to resort to your typical ad hoc antics, talking about refractive effects that defy all logic and somehow magically apply to the sun but nothing else. Or even better: Some of you talk about a dome with the sun on the other side that produces some bizarre optical effect. Apart from the sheer absurdity of this magical dome that no one has ever seen or touched, it creates big problems for you because you also claim that the sun and moon perform other kinds of magic to push the air and water around to get tides and storms and whatever else. that would require that it is inside the dome. So which is it? Is the sun outside the magical nonexistent dome so you can pretend to get the sunset, or is it inside the magical nonexistent dome so you can pretend to get the tides? It can't be both. Or is you bail on the dome and say it's just water, how do all those water molecules that make up ~1% of the atmosphere produce a thousand times greater refractive effect than actual liquid water? How does the appearance of a sunset never vary at all whether it's dry, humid, or raining? Why does nothing else but the sun behave that way? Show us a projectile or a plane going below the horizon as it recedes. Or show us the bogus dome and explain the phenomena with more than just buzzwords. So something to explain a sunset. Do anything besides making idiotic statements (and videos with action movie soundtracks) that contradict middle school level science.
6. Say anything about a lunar eclipse. What the hell is a lunar eclipse to you? Seriously. Explain anything about it. The things you guys say about solar eclipses are stupid enough, but at least you say something. A lunar eclipse happens when the earth gets between the sun and moon. Yes, that's right - in between. These two objects are no perpetually above a flat plane and you know it, which is why you guys are totally silent on lunar eclipses. And if you're going to propose that some other object besides earth is what obscures the moon, good luck trying to demonstrate its existence. By the way, the shadow that is cast during the eclipse is spherical. Hmmm...
7. What's stopping you from strapping a camera to a weather balloon and sending it up there to take some pictures? If you get crafty with some robotics, which is a stretch given your complete lack of education, you could even scoop up a little sample. Maybe the moon is made of cheese after all.
8. Get on an airplane and take some flights - like any direct flight in the southern hemisphere. Shouldn't that be impossible? Better yet, fly between two cities two different ways - the shortest way on the globe and shortest way on your flat earth model. Which one do you think will be faster? I'm kidding, I know you'll never be employed long enough to afford a private jet. But next time you're on a regular plane, notice that flights going east or west are not constantly turning slightly to one side, as you seem to believe they mist be if we're living on a fucking disk. Yeah, you would notice that. If humanity is unfortunate enough that you've actually procreated, send your kid up to the cockpit to meet the pilot and snap a pic of the wheel. What do you know, straight as an arrow.
9. Finally, do anything scientific. At all. Publish anything whatsoever about your model in anything reputable anywhere. Invent any technology based on your model. Do anything at all that could be considered empirical science. Here's a hint: You may have to study some real science yo do it, but then of course you would immediately learn that the earth isn't flat, so it probably won't be of much use.
I challenge you to all of these things in a facetious manner since you will immediately recognize the futility and instead resort to your usual ramblings. Doing anything remotely empirical demolishes your flat earth hoax, which is why you stick to shouting conspiracy and very little else. But something tells me I know more about your flat earth bullshit than you do and you're just a mindless follower hanging on to the only thing that makes you feel special. Maybe 2022 is the year you finally get a clue and move on with your life. There's a whole spherical world out there - a world filled with people who won't instantly mock you or be ashamed to know you. There are SO many opportunities to actually be a person of even minor consequence.
I know I've been hard on you, but I really am rooting for you. All you have to do is disengage from these charlatans that lie for a living. Save that $10 superchat and buy yourself some dignity, or even put it in a college fund so you can go to school and learn something useful. The choice is yours. Good luck and good night.
Okay mate, calculating all the distances of heavenly bodies along with the flat earths oceans and continents and renting a hot air balloon tomorrow..
As for the coNvid I really hope I die soon to prove the virtues of mask wearing worth it
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It's amazing how bad you have to be at science to believe a word of this. It almost deserves some kind of award.
One of the many ironies is that a number of people from this fringe group of flat-earthers have been accidentally proving the earth is round with their "experiments."
It's a fundamental fact of calculus and non-euclidean geometry (neither of which these people are remotely familiar with) that small sections of large curved surfaces will always appear flat to smaller organisms - also part of a small Einsteinian concept called relativity. Understanding a bit about relative distance and the laws of gravity is also helpful. Of course, this is a symptom of a much larger problem: basic education.
The unfounded conspiracy theories around disease and medicine aren't even worth addressing again. Social media is where facts go to die.
Luckily you're not a person of influence like a politician or a celebrity so being completely wrong on all accounts isn't nearly as harmful.
A spherical eath, I will refer to it as the macrocosm. A spinning glove that is commonly used in science to show the earth will be the microcosm.
What will happen if we attempt to form water around the globe just as they form in lakes, rivers, seas etc on our earth? Regardless of whether or not the microcosm is spinning. Will that water conform to the contour of the globe? The answer is no.
That's real science. An observable, repeatable experiment. One that can't be refuted.
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A spherical eath, I will refer to it as the macrocosm. A spinning glove that is commonly used in science to show the earth will be the microcosm.
What will happen if we attempt to form water around the globe just as they form in lakes, rivers, seas etc on our earth? Regardless of whether or not the microcosm is spinning. Will that water conform to the contour of the globe? The answer is no.
That's real science. An observable, repeatable experiment. One that can't be refuted.
Yeah man.. honestly I've always been a flat earther. I paid so little attention in Science classes in highschool that I never realized how utterly assinine the assertions of spinning ball earth globers actually were. So the gravity is strong enough to magically hold the ocean's water upside down but weak enough that I can pick up my feet and go for a casual walk in the park??
Sounds to me that "gravity" is made up just like "covid" is to be whatever the Freemasons want it to be.
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Just a note: I'm doing this less for the irredeemable morons in here that are incapable of understanding basic English (and some free education) than I am for people who are genuinely but silently curious about how the real world works and care to enjoy and process some information based in reality.
Trapped saying that he's "always been a flat earther" is basically saying he's always been stupid, which takes zero calories to believe. As for Abusive, what in the Kentucky-fried crack rock are you talking about... sounds like the ramblings of someone confined to a psychiatric hospital eating flies. Anyway, let's move on shall we?
One of the extreme problems of taking a globe and flattening it out into a plane is that gravity makes no sense and there is no reason for things to fall to the ground.
For those completely inept and cognitively bankrupt fucktards who have shamelessly made themselves known here, this may be breaking news but objects fall at an acceleration of 9.8 meters per second squared. That's an indisputable fact. It's also an indisputable fact that any acceleration requires a force to produce it, which is captured in the formula F = ma. This is how cars drive, planes fly, people walk, cats jump - it's literally how all motion works. Even the most popular idiot priests among the flat earth bunch admit this much, which is why they ramble on about magnetic magic. However, most flat earthers don't even do this - they just list two words: density and buoyancy (not even the morons in here are in the majority of what their cult group claims). Density and buoyancy are not forces. Forces are vectors, which require a magnitude and direction. Density is simply mass per unit volume and buoyancy is just a measurement of an object's ability to float. The fact that density and buoyancy are not forces is trivial to prove. You say objects fall down because they are more dense than the air below them. Why down? Why not up? Or sideways? When you let go of a ball, there is air all around it. How does it know to fall down? Also, objects fall down when they're in a vacuum, which means there is no air below them. What's happening there?
Face the fucking facts: things accelerate towards the ground because of a downward force. That force is gravity, which pulls everything towards the center of the earth, which is its center of mass. Denser things displace less dense things - like how oil floats over water - because gravity exists. More mass means a greater gravitational attraction - this is clearly why things that are less dense than water float on water - again, because gravity exists. Rocks are pulled down harder than water, which is pulled down harder than air.
Some of the more popular retorts include wondering how oceans stay on the earth while birds and insects can fly. It's because birds and insects have wings. They flap them and generate an upward force. If that force exceeds the gravitational force, they go up. Oceans can't do this because oceans don't have wings. Individual water molecules can evaporate and go up into the sky because they are extremely tiny. But when they get up to where it is colder and accumulate into clouds, they eventually condense back into liquid water. And guess what happens? They fall back down as rain. Hopefully you flat earthers are familiar with rain. As for planes and other macroscopic objects - again - they ascend only when a force is applied. When you throw a ball up, the force imparted on the ball by your arm is greater than the gravitational force. But as soon as it leaves your hand, no more force is being applied and only the gravitational force is acting upon the ball. So that velocity gets smaller and smaller and hits zero, at which point it starts to fall, falling faster and faster until it hits the ground. Gravity exists. Period. Saying it is just a theory does nothing but display that you have no idea what a theory is. Learn some basic math and do these calculations for yourself. Stop repeating what you hear on flat earth videos and catch up to the 17th century.
Finally, this claim by airheads that anyone with a brain who understands what gravity is and how it works has been indoctrinated; brainwashed by schools; by the government; by NASA; by Freemasons; by Hollywood - take your pick. You say the same exact thing like you're reciting the oath of the flat earth fraternity. So its a rather silly accusation to be throwing around. The fact that you all say the same things is completely unsurprising. What do you do when you want to brainwash someone? You tell them they have already been brainwashed. That's what flat earth priests do so that you're nice and receptive to the actual brainwashing. They tell you that everything you know is a lie so they can lie to you. It's human psychology 101. Why do they do this? Money. Status. It's a way for con-men to capitalize on the gullible few who exhibit a combination of ignorance and suggestibility. It's a cult. Flat earthers are part of a cult. Not like the kill-yourselves-with-kool-aid kind, but it's not that far off.
I expect that the selective morons in here will completely avoid addressing any of this and just vomit a bunch of other different flat earth talking points. But maybe some of you will have the courage to admit that you've fallen for a hoax. It's not that big a deal. Many of us have fallen for hoaxes or been manipulated at one time or another (myself included). Just admit that to yourself and walk away. And when you;re ready to learn science in earnest, there's a whole spherical world at your fingertips with endless amounts of well-sourced credible information that every scientist spends their undergraduate career proving to themselves through coursework experiments. You wouldn't even be able to use this forum on the internet if that wasn't the case.
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A spherical eath, I will refer to it as the macrocosm. A spinning glove that is commonly used in science to show the earth will be the microcosm.
What will happen if we attempt to form water around the globe just as they form in lakes, rivers, seas etc on our earth? Regardless of whether or not the microcosm is spinning. Will that water conform to the contour of the globe? The answer is no.
That's real science. An observable, repeatable experiment. One that can't be refuted.
I'd be remiss if I didn't directly address this display of incoherent word vomit.
One of flat earthers' favorite little "gotcha" challenges is to request that we demonstrate how water can stick to ball spinning at 1000mph. Abusive has attempted to crudely describe this in the form of a question or retort.
The implication is that water or anything else should fly off of it, like a child getting thrown from merry-go-round. While it's very cute that you get overwhelmed with numbers with four digits in them, in actuality the earth spins once per day. In case that's unclear: one time in 24 hours. Get on a merry-go-round and have someone push you one time around over 24 hours. Not a very thrilling ride is it? This issue is that the earth is really, really big. So if instead of using rotational velocity to describe a rotating body like a normal person, you try and use linear tangential velocity - you're going to get a pretty big number (obviously by "you" I mean the flat earthers who actually try this. Abusive doesn't know any math - not even the wrong kind - so he falls through the cracks here). But to be honest, it's still not really that big. Planes go more than half that speed and sitting on a plane at cruising altitude with no turbulence is just like sitting in a chair on the ground. Flat earth priests cite these big velocities associated with the earth and solar system purely for shock value. And you're falling for it. Stop doing that.
Furthermore, this little water-doesn't-stick-to-a-ball is the biggest straw man that was ever made of straw. The earth is huge. It generates an enormous gravitational field. That's why everything sticks to it. A ball is very tiny. It does not generate an enormous gravitational field. So things don't stick to it. Also, unless you're doing this in space, the ball must be very close to the earth, which as was just stated, generates an enormous gravitational field. So when water drips off the ball onto the ground, your desired demonstration of gravity fails precisely BECAUSE gravity exists. Stop asking for ridiculous and impossible demonstrations like having to build an earth-sized object to show you how water sticks to something as big as the earth.
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I'd be remiss if I didn't directly address this display of incoherent word vomit.
One of flat earthers' favorite little "gotcha" challenges is to request that we demonstrate how water can stick to ball spinning at 1000mph. Abusive has attempted to crudely describe this in the form of a question or retort.
The implication is that water or anything else should fly off of it, like a child getting thrown from merry-go-round. While it's very cute that you get overwhelmed with numbers with four digits in them, in actuality the earth spins once per day. In case that's unclear: one time in 24 hours. Get on a merry-go-round and have someone push you one time around over 24 hours. Not a very thrilling ride is it? This issue is that the earth is really, really big. So if instead of using rotational velocity to describe a rotating body like a normal person, you try and use linear tangential velocity - you're going to get a pretty big number (obviously by "you" I mean the flat earthers who actually try this. Abusive doesn't know any math - not even the wrong kind - so he falls through the cracks here). But to be honest, it's still not really that big. Planes go more than half that speed and sitting on a plane at cruising altitude with no turbulence is just like sitting in a chair on the ground. Flat earth priests cite these big velocities associated with the earth and solar system purely for shock value. And you're falling for it. Stop doing that.
Furthermore, this little water-doesn't-stick-to-a-ball is the biggest straw man that was ever made of straw. The earth is huge. It generates an enormous gravitational field. That's why everything sticks to it. A ball is very tiny. It does not generate an enormous gravitational field. So things don't stick to it. Also, unless you're doing this in space, the ball must be very close to the earth, which as was just stated, generates an enormous gravitational field. So when water drips off the ball onto the ground, your desired demonstration of gravity fails precisely BECAUS the earE gravity exists. Stop asking for ridiculous and impossible demonstrations like having to build an earth-sized object to show you how water sticks to something as big as the earth.
You saying that water falls to flat surfaces proves my point.
Gravity as you put it doesn't at all prove the earth is a sphere.
Nor does it disprove that the earth is flat.
You can't demonstrate anywhere on earth where water won't naturally fall to a flat surface so the idea that the earth itself is so big and has such a strong magnetic pull that it causes this phenomenal is absurd.
If I try to stand upside down on a ceiling I will fall. The notion that I can stand on a sphere earth upside and not fall simply because it's big is laughable. Especially considering a ball filled with air will float away with the wind. Upward I might add, not down.
I hope that light bulb goes off in your head soon. You are so arrogant that if it does you will probably stick to your old thoughts just so you can be "right".
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You saying that water falls to flat surfaces proves my point.
Gravity as you put it doesn't at all prove the earth is a sphere.
Nor does it disprove that the earth is flat.
You can't demonstrate anywhere on earth where water won't naturally fall to a flat surface so the idea that the earth itself is so big and has such a strong magnetic pull that it causes this phenomenal is absurd.
If I try to stand upside down on a ceiling I will fall. The notion that I can stand on a sphere earth upside and not fall simply because it's big is laughable. Especially considering a ball filled with air will float away with the wind. Upward I might add, not down.
I hope that light bulb goes off in your head soon. You are so arrogant that if it does you will probably stick to your old thoughts just so you can be "right".
For all observers, pay no mind to this unenlightened half-witted word salad of a response. The irony is embedded in the response, which has unequivocally proved what kind of a low ability individuals we're dealing with here, at least one of whom is directly implying that the laws of physics do not exist, Einstein is wrong, and that mathematics are not real. These people are literally hundreds of years behind but still manage to function in a world where the laws of physics they refute literally allow them to exist. At this point, I'd be impressed to see proof of a GED from either of them. The thinking here is medieval at best.
Even some of the simplest people - when given a choice of who they think is more reliable: someone like Stephen Hawking or these bozos - would choose the former. These imbeciles have never contributed a single solitary thing towards the advancement of humanity in any field of relevance and probably have never set foot onto a college campus, let alone a fucking STEM classroom of any sort. Anyone who is using an ounce of thought here hardly requires it to see how unbelievably dumb it would be to blindly believe a person who is literally talking out of his ass about a subject he knows less than nothing about while utterly devoid of any credentials whatsoever. This is just a last ditch effort to distract from even a single challenge I have put fourth that would test the validity of and instantaneously falsify the claims made by a group of idiots higher on the ladder than these guys are.
And for the record, I am right. It has been verified since the 17th century. So I'm not even special in my position. This is basic ABC's that doesn't impress anyone who knows what they're talking about. You don't get a prize for understanding gravity. The problem is that stupid people think smart people are dumb... which as it happens, is thankfully not my problem.
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Just a note: I'm doing this less for the irredeemable morons in here that are incapable of understanding basic English (and some free education) than I am for people who are genuinely but silently curious about how the real world works and care to enjoy and process some information based in reality.
Trapped saying that he's "always been a flat earther" is basically saying he's always been stupid, which takes zero calories to believe. As for Abusive, what in the Kentucky-fried crack rock are you talking about... sounds like the ramblings of someone confined to a psychiatric hospital eating flies. Anyway, let's move on shall we?
One of the extreme problems of taking a globe and flattening it out into a plane is that gravity makes no sense and there is no reason for things to fall to the ground.
For those completely inept and cognitively bankrupt fucktards who have shamelessly made themselves known here, this may be breaking news but objects fall at an acceleration of 9.8 meters per second squared. That's an indisputable fact. It's also an indisputable fact that any acceleration requires a force to produce it, which is captured in the formula F = ma. This is how cars drive, planes fly, people walk, cats jump - it's literally how all motion works. Even the most popular idiot priests among the flat earth bunch admit this much, which is why they ramble on about magnetic magic. However, most flat earthers don't even do this - they just list two words: density and buoyancy (not even the morons in here are in the majority of what their cult group claims). Density and buoyancy are not forces. Forces are vectors, which require a magnitude and direction. Density is simply mass per unit volume and buoyancy is just a measurement of an object's ability to float. The fact that density and buoyancy are not forces is trivial to prove. You say objects fall down because they are more dense than the air below them. Why down? Why not up? Or sideways? When you let go of a ball, there is air all around it. How does it know to fall down? Also, objects fall down when they're in a vacuum, which means there is no air below them. What's happening there?
Face the fucking facts: things accelerate towards the ground because of a downward force. That force is gravity, which pulls everything towards the center of the earth, which is its center of mass. Denser things displace less dense things - like how oil floats over water - because gravity exists. More mass means a greater gravitational attraction - this is clearly why things that are less dense than water float on water - again, because gravity exists. Rocks are pulled down harder than water, which is pulled down harder than air.
Some of the more popular retorts include wondering how oceans stay on the earth while birds and insects can fly. It's because birds and insects have wings. They flap them and generate an upward force. If that force exceeds the gravitational force, they go up. Oceans can't do this because oceans don't have wings. Individual water molecules can evaporate and go up into the sky because they are extremely tiny. But when they get up to where it is colder and accumulate into clouds, they eventually condense back into liquid water. And guess what happens? They fall back down as rain. Hopefully you flat earthers are familiar with rain. As for planes and other macroscopic objects - again - they ascend only when a force is applied. When you throw a ball up, the force imparted on the ball by your arm is greater than the gravitational force. But as soon as it leaves your hand, no more force is being applied and only the gravitational force is acting upon the ball. So that velocity gets smaller and smaller and hits zero, at which point it starts to fall, falling faster and faster until it hits the ground. Gravity exists. Period. Saying it is just a theory does nothing but display that you have no idea what a theory is. Learn some basic math and do these calculations for yourself. Stop repeating what you hear on flat earth videos and catch up to the 17th century.
Finally, this claim by airheads that anyone with a brain who understands what gravity is and how it works has been indoctrinated; brainwashed by schools; by the government; by NASA; by Freemasons; by Hollywood - take your pick. You say the same exact thing like you're reciting the oath of the flat earth fraternity. So its a rather silly accusation to be throwing around. The fact that you all say the same things is completely unsurprising. What do you do when you want to brainwash someone? You tell them they have already been brainwashed. That's what flat earth priests do so that you're nice and receptive to the actual brainwashing. They tell you that everything you know is a lie so they can lie to you. It's human psychology 101. Why do they do this? Money. Status. It's a way for con-men to capitalize on the gullible few who exhibit a combination of ignorance and suggestibility. It's a cult. Flat earthers are part of a cult. Not like the kill-yourselves-with-kool-aid kind, but it's not that far off.
I expect that the selective morons in here will completely avoid addressing any of this and just vomit a bunch of other different flat earth talking points. But maybe some of you will have the courage to admit that you've fallen for a hoax. It's not that big a deal. Many of us have fallen for hoaxes or been manipulated at one time or another (myself included). Just admit that to yourself and walk away. And when you;re ready to learn science in earnest, there's a whole spherical world at your fingertips with endless amounts of well-sourced credible information that every scientist spends their undergraduate career proving to themselves through coursework experiments. You wouldn't even be able to use this forum on the internet if that wasn't the case.
are dinosaurs real?
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For all observers, pay no mind to this unenlightened half-witted word salad of a response. The irony is embedded in the response, which has unequivocally proved what kind of a low ability individuals we're dealing with here, at least one of whom is directly implying that the laws of physics do not exist, Einstein is wrong, and that mathematics are not real. These people are literally hundreds of years behind but still manage to function in a world where the laws of physics they refute literally allow them to exist. At this point, I'd be impressed to see proof of a GED from either of them. The thinking here is medieval at best.
Even some of the simplest people - when given a choice of who they think is more reliable: someone like Stephen Hawking or these bozos - would choose the former. These imbeciles have never contributed a single solitary thing towards the advancement of humanity in any field of relevance and probably have never set foot onto a college campus, let alone a fucking STEM classroom of any sort. Anyone who is using an ounce of thought here hardly requires it to see how unbelievably dumb it would be to blindly believe a person who is literally talking out of his ass about a subject he knows less than nothing about while utterly devoid of any credentials whatsoever. This is just a last ditch effort to distract from even a single challenge I have put fourth that would test the validity of and instantaneously falsify the claims made by a group of idiots higher on the ladder than these guys are.
And for the record, I am right. It has been verified since the 17th century. So I'm not even special in my position. This is basic ABC's that doesn't impress anyone who knows what they're talking about. You don't get a prize for understanding gravity. The problem is that stupid people think smart people are dumb... which as it happens, is thankfully not my problem.
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i decided not to write anything about The Game threads lately. I'm not going to feed the troll wack rapper.
anyway...
is this discussion real or you guys are all playin? are we really trying to convince someone to realise earth is not flat and there's a fact called Gravity?
Yo Sccit!!! tell me they are just playin and its all for fun!
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i decided not to write anything about The Game threads lately. I'm not going to feed the troll wack rapper.
anyway...
is this discussion real or you guys are all playin? are we really trying to convince someone to realise earth is not flat and there's a fact called Gravity?
Yo Sccit!!! tell me they are just playin and its all for fun!
We were just playin, mate... everybody knows the earth is round. Just like everybody knows that Covid is a deadly pandemic and sometimes govt just needs to lock ya' down ;) Same thing for if Aliens ever attack, Meteorites, or Climate Change--sometimes it just be like that the government needs to lock us down, inject us, and suspend the constitution, it's for our own benefit. The Science is settled. After all you've seen the Leonardo Dicaprio movie on Netflix "Don't Look Up". Trust the clergy--I mean experts. They have access to space rockets and know more than us.
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i decided not to write anything about The Game threads lately. I'm not going to feed the troll wack rapper.
anyway...
is this discussion real or you guys are all playin? are we really trying to convince someone to realise earth is not flat and there's a fact called Gravity?
Yo Sccit!!! tell me they are just playin and its all for fun!
abusive is not playin at all
infinite sometimes trolls and/or goes overboard trying hard to be counter culture + prove an identity based on being anti-establishment .. so he halfway believes what he says, but deep in his heart isn’t really convinced, despite trying to convince others
and i’m all for a good conspiracy- im hip to the corruption of the powers that be.. but there’s a thin line between recognizing evil and actively seeking it
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are dinosaurs real?
Yes and no.
Dinosaurs appear to be large animals that they have grouped together and given the name dinosaurs. When you study this thing you'll find that in the past people and animals appeared to be bigger. Biblically people lived longer and assumably so did animals.
You can look at certain lizards today and they resemble what we would call a dinosaur, just smaller. Like I said above, if they lived longer and grew bigger, that's what you would have.
I posted a video in train of thought called 'the great dinosaur mystery' that's worth watching. It shows old testament verses that appears to describe dinosaurs.
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infinite sometimes trolls and/or goes overboard trying hard to be counter culture + prove an identity based on being anti-establishment .. so he halfway believes what he says, but deep in his heart isn’t really convinced, despite trying to convince others
It makes Sccit feel better about himself to call me "counter-culture" just because I called that Coward-19 shit for what it was from the beginning and he was like a year late to the party.
It doesn't make me counter-culture Sccit--just means I think for myself and realized that all the world's govts colluding all at the same time to lockdown entire populations in their homes for indefinite periods--was slightly more concerning than George Floyd.
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Sometimes trends even swing in my direction. I was the only one in my school bumping 2pac and shit like that in 93' and then that shit became the big trend in 95' and 96'. Did I start saying 2pac sucked and the real rap music is Master P or some shit like that?? No, I was still riding for Pac even when it became trendy.
Same with Eminem. Everyone hated him when he first came out. I remember going to his concert by myself in Spring 99' and everyone at the school was laughing at me for going they thought he was the next Vanilla Ice. The next year it became a big trend in my city everyone was into Eminem. Did I start saying Eminem sucked and the only real rapper was Mos Def? Fucc no, I was still just as big of a fan as Em all the way thru till Proof died I was the same in regards to my support.
To take it a step further I'm a lifelong Phil Collins fan, Taylor Swift at the height of her fame in 2013, I love the movie Titanic, went to see it two times in theaters and bought the VHS when it came out. Hell, I was even openly happy on Trump's inauguration day when he was kind of at his height. There is a lot of trendy shit I like.
Maybe some day it will be trendy to be a Flat Earther and I will still be a Flat Earther then as well. It's easy when you live the way I live because you just like whatever you like. And that is counter-culture because most people don't even know what the fucc they like and need someone to tell them how to think. That's why someone like me might appear "counter-culture"--because its counter culture to think for yourself these days.
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It makes Sccit feel better about himself to call me "counter-culture" just because I called that Coward-19 shit for what it was from the beginning and he was like a year late to the party.
It doesn't make me counter-culture Sccit--just means I think for myself and realized that all the world's govts colluding all at the same time to lockdown entire populations in their homes for indefinite periods--was slightly more concerning than George Floyd.
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Sometimes trends even swing in my direction. I was the only one in my school bumping 2pac and shit like that in 93' and then that shit became the big trend in 95' and 96'. Did I start saying 2pac sucked and the real rap music is Master P or some shit like that?? No, I was still riding for Pac even when it became trendy.
Same with Eminem. Everyone hated him when he first came out. I remember going to his concert by myself in Spring 99' and everyone at the school was laughing at me for going they thought he was the next Vanilla Ice. The next year it became a big trend in my city everyone was into Eminem. Did I start saying Eminem sucked and the only real rapper was Mos Def? Fucc no, I was still just as big of a fan as Em all the way thru till Proof died I was the same in regards to my support.
To take it a step further I'm a lifelong Phil Collins fan, Taylor Swift at the height of her fame in 2013, I love the movie Titanic, went to see it two times in theaters and bought the VHS when it came out. Hell, I was even openly happy on Trump's inauguration day when he was kind of at his height. There is a lot of trendy shit I like.
Maybe some day it will be trendy to be a Flat Earther and I will still be a Flat Earther then as well. It's easy when you live the way I live because you just like whatever you like. And that is counter-culture because most people don't even know what the fucc they like and need someone to tell them how to think. That's why someone like me might appear "counter-culture"--because its counter culture to think for yourself these days.
why would it make me feel better? i just call it like it is homie
i’m “counter culture” myself .. american culture is trash .. and i’m with u on some things (just not flat earth stuff lol)
but my point wasn’t to diss you for being counter culture.. it was to point out that you base your identity around it and stick to it at all costs
it is what it is, facts only
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why would it make me feel better? i just call it like it is homie
i’m “counter culture” myself .. american culture is trash .. and i’m with u on some things (just not flat earth stuff lol)
but my point wasn’t to diss you for being counter culture.. it was to point out that you base your identity around it and stick to it at all costs
it is what it is, facts only
Perhaps identity, yes. But stick to it at all costs, no.
If someone could prove to me I am actually spinning right now, or show me the curve in the Earth I will change my mind. But I am totally still at my desk right now, and I just went out for a walk and the desert here in the Arab Gulf is still flat.
(Remember when they used to do that awards thing here at the dubb? (shit we should bring that back actually). Remember they used to call me an Eminem dickrider in 01? And that I would support Eminem no matter what. As soon as he said that "wear your damn mask" shit I was done with him. Finished. Same with Dre throwing up the horns. I will still support all of Dre's older stuff but nothing since he did the LL induction and Superbowl with the devil worshipping. Musically, Em kind of fell off after Proof died. Nothing against him, he'd done all you could possibly do and he still drops an epic every now and then like "Guts Over Fear" and MMLP2 was very good)
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Perhaps identity, yes. But stick to it at all costs, no.
If someone could prove to me I am actually spinning right now, or show me the curve in the Earth I will change my mind. But I am totally still at my desk right now, and I just went out for a walk and the desert here in the Arab Gulf is still flat.
(Remember when they used to do that awards thing here at the dubb? (shit we should bring that back actually). Remember they used to call me an Eminem dickrider in 01? And that I would support Eminem no matter what. As soon as he said that "wear your damn mask" shit I was done with him. Finished. Same with Dre throwing up the horns. I will still support all of Dre's older stuff but nothing since he did the LL induction and Superbowl with the devil worshipping. Musically, Em kind of fell off after Proof died. Nothing against him, he'd done all you could possibly do and he still drops an epic every now and then like "Guts Over Fear" and MMLP2 was very good)
because it’s the cool thing to like eminem now.. he’s a pop artist who lost his edge
dre is at his commercial height as well, doin the super bowl - and not even making the kinda music we can really fux wit nowadays
so it’s easy to stop supporting them when they are an accepted part of american culture.. that’s your real answer
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because it’s the cool thing to like eminem now.. he’s a pop artist who lost his edge
dre is at his commercial height as well, doin the super bowl - and not even making the kinda music we can really fux wit nowadays
so it’s easy to stop supporting them when they are an accepted part of american culture.. that’s your real answer
Then why was I defending Dre in that LL thread and I was still his biggest supporter as I've always been until someone pointed out the devil horns to me? This only happened a few weeks ago.
You honestly think it's only cause Dre is accepted now? Has nothing to do with that. Once you could say it is a coincidence. But his two big appearances in a row, LL, and the Superbowl he's throwing up the devil horns. Then Eminem is on that GTA shit rappin about "anyone can catch it, Covid" and then that song last year "wear your damn mask". I can't support these cats anymore.
I'm still in full support of Snoop.
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Then why was I defending Dre in that LL thread and I was still his biggest supporter as I've always been until someone pointed out the devil horns to me? This only happened a few weeks ago.
You honestly think it's only cause Dre is accepted now? Has nothing to do with that. Once you could say it is a coincidence. But his two big appearances in a row, LL, and the Superbowl he's throwing up the devil horns. Then Eminem is on that GTA shit rappin about "anyone can catch it, Covid" and then that song last year "wear your damn mask". I can't support these cats anymore.
I'm still in full support of Snoop.
the “devil horns” are synonymous with rock n roll lol .. once it reached pop culture it simply meant “rock on”
calling dre a sellout while supporting snoop is hypocritical.. look what snoop did with death row. he took all the classix off streaming so he could profit off it with nfts. that ain’t love.
u building an identity as being a counter culture conspiracy theorist goes hand in hand with denouncing eminem for being a covid fag or dre for throwing up “devil horns”.
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Yes and no.
Dinosaurs appear to be large animals that they have grouped together and given the name dinosaurs. When you study this thing you'll find that in the past people and animals appeared to be bigger. Biblically people lived longer and assumably so did animals.
You can look at certain lizards today and they resemble what we would call a dinosaur, just smaller. Like I said above, if they lived longer and grew bigger, that's what you would have.
I posted a video in train of thought called 'the great dinosaur mystery' that's worth watching. It shows old testament verses that appears to describe dinosaurs.
The stream of moronic word vomit continues. Please don't use the word "study" to describe anything you're doing ::).
For the record: After the dinosaurs died out, nearly 65 million years passed before primate evolution on Earth.
The bible is not a history book. Try taking a course in ecology, marine biology, astrophysics, archeology, paleontology, and evolutionary biology. You'd flunk out of all of them but that's where actual information is. Not even a century of Egyptology research or Israeli archeology has produced a shred of evidence for any story in that book (that was sporadically written several hundred years after the person they're talking about died by a group of schizophrenics who never knew him or could confirm his mere existence). Any real theologian understands that the text is not to be taken literally; it's mythology packaged into a metaphor - and unoriginal at that.
The similarities between the stories and characters in the Bible and those from previous mythologies are both undeniable and well-documented. Jesus’s story is an obvious rehashing of numerous previous characters like Asklepios, Hercules, Dionysus, Osiris, Mithra, Krishna, Buddha, and even a contemporary of Jesus, Apollonius of Tyana. These previous narratives existed hundreds to thousands of years before Jesus did. The genesis flood story mirrors the epic of Gilgamesh hundreds of years earlier (and they never tell you that Noah was 500 years old in church because you might think it's bullshit ;)).
The text is self-defeating in that it attempts to root itself in historical claims and since we have an overwhelming amount of evidence that those claims are false (thanks to basic human progress and modern technology), it creates a lot of problems for christian theology. It has no independent means of verification or discernment. The best they can do is try and alter the theology to fit the facts, which turns out to be quite the mess - we basically get Jesus riding a Velociraptor ;D
The catholic church held back physics for 2,000 years. Innumerable people were executed and burned at the stake for even asking the simplest of questions. Even Galileo was forced to recount his claims (while secretly admitting through letters to his daughter that his observations were in fact correct - and they were). And we won't even get into the millennia of mass pedophilia, prejudice, rape, tribalism, slavery, murder, homophobia, racism, sexism, and the teaching of self-hatred that inundates this institution to this day. Anyone who asks you to kill your child to prove you love him is a fucking psycho. And anyone who seriously thinks that a ghost who impregnates teenage girls with himself is telling them that is in dire need of medication and a padded room.
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The stream of moronic word vomit continues. Please don't use the word "study" to describe anything you're doing ::).
For the record: After the dinosaurs died out, nearly 65 million years passed before primate evolution on Earth.
The bible is not a history book. Try taking a course in ecology, marine biology, astrophysics, archeology, paleontology, and evolutionary biology. You'd flunk out of all of them but that's where actual information is. Not even a century of Egyptology research or Israeli archeology has produced a shred of evidence for any story in that book (that was sporadically written several hundred years after the person they're talking about died by a group of schizophrenics who never knew him or could confirm his mere existence). Any real theologian understands that the text is not to be taken literally; it's mythology packaged into a metaphor - and unoriginal at that.
The similarities between the stories and characters in the Bible and those from previous mythologies are both undeniable and well-documented. Jesus’s story is an obvious rehashing of numerous previous characters like Asklepios, Hercules, Dionysus, Osiris, Mithra, Krishna, Buddha, and even a contemporary of Jesus, Apollonius of Tyana. These previous narratives existed hundreds to thousands of years before Jesus did. The genesis flood story mirrors the epic of Gilgamesh hundreds of years earlier (and they never tell you that Noah was 500 years old in church because you might think it's bullshit ;)).
The text is self-defeating in that it attempts to root itself in historical claims and since we have an overwhelming amount of evidence that those claims are false (thanks to basic human progress and modern technology), it creates a lot of problems for christian theology. It has no independent means of verification or discernment. The best they can do is try and alter the theology to fit the facts, which turns out to be quite the mess - we basically get Jesus riding a Velociraptor ;D
The catholic church held back physics for 2,000 years. Innumerable people were executed and burned at the stake for even asking the simplest of questions. Even Galileo was forced to recount his claims (while secretly admitting through letters to his daughter that his observations were in fact correct - and they were). And we won't even get into the millennia of mass pedophilia, prejudice, rape, tribalism, slavery, murder, homophobia, racism, sexism, and the teaching of self-hatred that inundates this institution to this day. Anyone who asks you to kill your child to prove you love him is a fucking psycho. And anyone who seriously thinks that a ghost who impregnates teenage girls with himself is telling them that is in dire need of medication and a padded room.
this is where i gota stop you
scripture and science go hand in hand and torah has come to conclusions that science only reached thousands of years later
i’d recommend
https://www.amazon.com/Coming-Revolution-Zamir-Cohen/dp/9659123108
https://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Treasures-Rabbi-Zamir-Cohen/dp/9659123124
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this is where i gota stop you
scripture and science go hand in hand and torah has come to conclusions that science only reached thousands of years later
i’d recommend
https://www.amazon.com/Coming-Revolution-Zamir-Cohen/dp/9659123108
https://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Treasures-Rabbi-Zamir-Cohen/dp/9659123124
Philosophy predates abrahamic religions and was the precursor to modern science as we know it. Conveniently overlooking all of the glaring biblical contradictions much less the lack of evidence for any claim made coupled with the fact that archeology and paleontology have both falsified them all works well for in-group discussions but not here.
A handful of cherry-picked anecdotes is not a qualifier to try and equate science and scripture. Talking animals, walking on water, magically changing water into wine, dead people being brought back to life, 500 year old people building boats for a flood higher than Mt. Everest, men parting oceans... the complete suspension of logic and reason? Hand in hand? Not even close.
Science works on the basis of reason and evidence, while religion appeals to the antithesis of that: faith.If we lived in a world in which religious claims about the functioning of the world were regularly verified by scientific practice, that would be one thing. But aside from denominations of Buddhism, we don't. Science and religion are incompatible in the real world because they reach incompatible conclusions. This is perfectly evident to any fair-minded person who cares to look. Different religions make very different claims, but they typically end up saying things like “God made the universe in six days” or “Jesus died and was resurrected” or “Moses parted the red sea” or “dead souls are reincarnated in accordance with their karmic burden.” And science says: none of that is true (based on the inability to conduct any experiments that prove them otherwise). So there you go, incompatibility. The favored method of those who would claim that science and religion are compatible — really, the only method available — is to twist the definition of either “science” or “religion” well out of the form in which most people would recognize it, which is what a lot of fringe authors attempt to do.
The progress of science over the last few centuries has increasingly shown religious claims about the natural world to be straightforwardly incorrect. We know more about the natural world now than we did two millennia ago, and we know enough to say that people don’t come back from the dead. We also know enough about biology to conclude there is no such thing as virgin births or female impregnation without the birth canal.
Scientifically speaking, the existence of God is an untenable hypothesis. Religion was humanity's first attempt at trying to understand the world - a reach for the reason why things are the way they are. We've come quite a long way since then, much to the dismay of religion. The scientific method as a way to determine the workings of reality has been accepted and proven ad nauseum both in theory and in practice - it's solely responsible for the world we live in and all the things we take for granted in it (including this discussion on a computer over the internet). Millennia ago, God was a reasonable hypothesis. But our understanding (and our data) has improved exponentially since then, and this is no longer a viable model. The same kind of reasoning holds for belief in miracles, various creation stories, and so on.
I have huge respect for many thoughtful religious people, several of whom I count among the most intelligent people I know of - like Isaac Newton and Rene Descartes. I just think they’re incorrect, in precisely the same sense in which I think certain of my thoughtful and intelligent physicist friends are wrong about the arrow of time or the interpretation of quantum mechanics. But these issues matter; they affect people’s lives, from women who are forced to wear head coverings and stripped of their rights to gay couples who can’t get married to people in Minnesota who can’t buy cars on Sundays.... to the innumerable child molestation scandals over millennia that riddle religious institutions. Religion can never be a purely personal matter; how you think about the fundamental nature of reality necessarily impacts how you behave, and those behaviors are going to affect other people. That’s why it’s important to get it right.
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the “devil horns” are synonymous with rock n roll lol .. once it reached pop culture it simply meant “rock on”
calling dre a sellout while supporting snoop is hypocritical.. look what snoop did with death row. he took all the classix off streaming so he could profit off it with nfts. that ain’t love.
u building an identity as being a counter culture conspiracy theorist goes hand in hand with denouncing eminem for being a covid fag or dre for throwing up “devil horns”.
So you are standing by the position that it is just a coincidence that Dre threw up the devil horns (something he never used to do) in two consecutive major appearances—Rock n Roll Hall of Fame and then at the very moment all eyes were on him and receiving encore at his big moment in front of the world at the Super Bowl he just by accident throws up the devil horns to say “rock’n’roll”? It was hiphop’s big moment why represent rock n roll? You are in denial—the industry is Satanic at very high levels, Dre sold his soul. Probably that deal was made through Jimmy as well.
The Freemasonry/Illuminati stuff is real it may be under different names but there is a high level one world government that gives you secret access and membership if you sell out to them. I’m not sure what name it was under for Dre but I think you are stretching pretty far if you think it’s just a coincidence Dre chose to throw up the horns on the biggest stage of his life.
Pac wouldn’t of done that. That’s why Pac is the greatest and the truest, not Dre. Pac never sold his soul and Suge never sold his soul. Soon I will be removing Dre from my avatar and sig and replacing with either Pac or Flat Earth signage
I’m giving you the real, Sccit
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Philosophy predates abrahamic religions and was the precursor to modern science as we know it. Conveniently overlooking all of the glaring biblical contradictions much less the lack of evidence for any claim made coupled with the fact that archeology and paleontology have both falsified them all works well for in-group discussions but not here.
A handful of cherry-picked anecdotes is not a qualifier to try and equate science and scripture. Talking animals, walking on water, magically changing water into wine, dead people being brought back to life, 500 year old people building boats for a flood higher than Mt. Everest, men parting oceans... the complete suspension of logic and reason? Hand in hand? Not even close.
Science works on the basis of reason and evidence, while religion appeals to the antithesis of that: faith.If we lived in a world in which religious claims about the functioning of the world were regularly verified by scientific practice, that would be one thing. But aside from denominations of Buddhism, we don't. Science and religion are incompatible in the real world because they reach incompatible conclusions. This is perfectly evident to any fair-minded person who cares to look. Different religions make very different claims, but they typically end up saying things like “God made the universe in six days” or “Jesus died and was resurrected” or “Moses parted the red sea” or “dead souls are reincarnated in accordance with their karmic burden.” And science says: none of that is true (based on the inability to conduct any experiments that prove them otherwise). So there you go, incompatibility. The favored method of those who would claim that science and religion are compatible — really, the only method available — is to twist the definition of either “science” or “religion” well out of the form in which most people would recognize it, which is what a lot of fringe authors attempt to do.
The progress of science over the last few centuries has increasingly shown religious claims about the natural world to be straightforwardly incorrect. We know more about the natural world now than we did two millennia ago, and we know enough to say that people don’t come back from the dead. We also know enough about biology to conclude there is no such thing as virgin births or female impregnation without the birth canal.
Scientifically speaking, the existence of God is an untenable hypothesis. Religion was humanity's first attempt at trying to understand the world - a reach for the reason why things are the way they are. We've come quite a long way since then, much to the dismay of religion. The scientific method as a way to determine the workings of reality has been accepted and proven ad nauseum both in theory and in practice - it's solely responsible for the world we live in and all the things we take for granted in it (including this discussion on a computer over the internet). Millennia ago, God was a reasonable hypothesis. But our understanding (and our data) has improved exponentially since then, and this is no longer a viable model. The same kind of reasoning holds for belief in miracles, various creation stories, and so on.
I have huge respect for many thoughtful religious people, several of whom I count among the most intelligent people I know of - like Isaac Newton and Rene Descartes. I just think they’re incorrect, in precisely the same sense in which I think certain of my thoughtful and intelligent physicist friends are wrong about the arrow of time or the interpretation of quantum mechanics. But these issues matter; they affect people’s lives, from women who are forced to wear head coverings and stripped of their rights to gay couples who can’t get married to people in Minnesota who can’t buy cars on Sundays.... to the innumerable child molestation scandals over millennia that riddle religious institutions. Religion can never be a purely personal matter; how you think about the fundamental nature of reality necessarily impacts how you behave, and those behaviors are going to affect other people. That’s why it’s important to get it right.
you’re basically ruling out supernatural occurrences and the ability of a higher power to defy what we know in this realm
so you believe there are no dimensions beyond ours. we know everything.. despite the fact that up until about 70 years ago, the theory of creation wasn’t even accepted in science. not until the big bang theory was finally hypothesized in the early 20th century, only to eventually be the most accepted scientific explanation for the universe, which was originally believed to have no beginning and no end by science. before then the thought of creation was mocked. if someone like you lived back then, you would surely clown any person who dare tried to claim the universe was created with a big bang and continues to expand. so who knows what scientists will find out 100 years from now.. as technology advances, its slowly catching up to God. a person with no faith such as yourself will not be able to wrap your mind around this without admitting to yourself that most of science is only THEORY, which constantly CHANGES. meaning it will continue to change…….
not believing in dimensions beyond ours, which we have limited understanding of, in itself is anti-science and frankly, a pretty pretentious outlook if we keepin it a buck
you’re too far to the opposite side of the spectrum to debate matters of mysticism with, so this conversation won’t go anywhere
you’re saying a whole lot without really saying anything.. just the same repeating of “these things are beyond my capability of understanding, so therefore they cannot be real”
LOL
there’s a reason that most scientists believe in a higher power. the fact that they believe in this automatically validates the notion that there are things which cannot be scientifically broken down or understood by the human mind.
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So you are standing by the position that it is just a coincidence that Dre threw up the devil horns (something he never used to do) in two consecutive major appearances—Rock n Roll Hall of Fame and then at the very moment all eyes were on him and receiving encore at his big moment in front of the world at the Super Bowl he just by accident throws up the devil horns to say “rock’n’roll”? It was hiphop’s big moment why represent rock n roll? You are in denial—the industry is Satanic at very high levels, Dre sold his soul. Probably that deal was made through Jimmy as well.
The Freemasonry/Illuminati stuff is real it may be under different names but there is a high level one world government that gives you secret access and membership if you sell out to them. I’m not sure what name it was under for Dre but I think you are stretching pretty far if you think it’s just a coincidence Dre chose to throw up the horns on the biggest stage of his life.
Pac wouldn’t of done that. That’s why Pac is the greatest and the truest, not Dre. Pac never sold his soul and Suge never sold his soul. Soon I will be removing Dre from my avatar and sig and replacing with either Pac or Flat Earth signage
I’m giving you the real, Sccit
i mean it’s the ROCK N ROLL hall of fame .. not as big a shocker as youre acting
if dre sold his soul, the gta soundtrack would be much bigger than it was
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the “devil horns” are synonymous with rock n roll lol .. once it reached pop culture it simply meant “rock on”
calling dre a sellout while supporting snoop is hypocritical.. look what snoop did with death row. he took all the classix off streaming so he could profit off it with nfts. that ain’t love.
u building an identity as being a counter culture conspiracy theorist goes hand in hand with denouncing eminem for being a covid fag or dre for throwing up “devil horns”.
Nah. I posted a video in train of thought entitled 'Tgey sold their soul for rock n roll'. It's more like the devil and rock n roll' go hand and hand. Look in Robert Johnson and the devil, blues and the progression or influence of blues on rock music. Jerry heller used to manage some of the devilish rock groups. The symbolism has been there from the eazy duz it album cover all the way to niggaz4life.
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The stream of moronic word vomit continues. Please don't use the word "study" to describe anything you're doing ::).
For the record: After the dinosaurs died out, nearly 65 million years passed before primate evolution on Earth.
The bible is not a history book. Try taking a course in ecology, marine biology, astrophysics, archeology, paleontology, and evolutionary biology. You'd flunk out of all of them but that's where actual information is. Not even a century of Egyptology research or Israeli archeology has produced a shred of evidence for any story in that book (that was sporadically written several hundred years after the person they're talking about died by a group of schizophrenics who never knew him or could confirm his mere existence). Any real theologian understands that the text is not to be taken literally; it's mythology packaged into a metaphor - and unoriginal at that.
The similarities between the stories and characters in the Bible and those from previous mythologies are both undeniable and well-documented. Jesus’s story is an obvious rehashing of numerous previous characters like Asklepios, Hercules, Dionysus, Osiris, Mithra, Krishna, Buddha, and even a contemporary of Jesus, Apollonius of Tyana. These previous narratives existed hundreds to thousands of years before Jesus did. The genesis flood story mirrors the epic of Gilgamesh hundreds of years earlier (and they never tell you that Noah was 500 years old in church because you might think it's bullshit ;)).
The text is self-defeating in that it attempts to root itself in historical claims and since we have an overwhelming amount of evidence that those claims are false (thanks to basic human progress and modern technology), it creates a lot of problems for christian theology. It has no independent means of verification or discernment. The best they can do is try and alter the theology to fit the facts, which turns out to be quite the mess - we basically get Jesus riding a Velociraptor ;D
The catholic church held back physics for 2,000 years. Innumerable people were executed and burned at the stake for even asking the simplest of questions. Even Galileo was forced to recount his claims (while secretly admitting through letters to his daughter that his observations were in fact correct - and they were). And we won't even get into the millennia of mass pedophilia, prejudice, rape, tribalism, slavery, murder, homophobia, racism, sexism, and the teaching of self-hatred that inundates this institution to this day. Anyone who asks you to kill your child to prove you love him is a fucking psycho. And anyone who seriously thinks that a ghost who impregnates teenage girls with himself is telling them that is in dire need of medication and a padded room.
It's pretty obvious you have never looked into what you are arguing against. I find that quite common. We aren't the same though. I always look at both sides of the spectrum and come to a conclusion.
I have posted several documentaries, lectures and debates in train of thought that refutes most of what you have posted. You guys obviously aren't paying attention. Lol Stop worrying about Dr. Dre all the time and check out some of my "conspiracy theories." You may learn something.
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The symbolism has been there from the eazy duz it album cover all the way to niggaz4life.
infinite .. do you believe this? :-\
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you’re basically ruling out supernatural occurrences and the ability of a higher power to defy what we know in this realm
so you believe there are no dimensions beyond ours. we know everything.. despite the fact that up until about 70 years ago, the theory of creation wasn’t even accepted in science. not until the big bang theory was finally hypothesized in the early 20th century, only to eventually be the most accepted scientific explanation for the universe, which was originally believed to have no beginning and no end by science. before then the thought of creation was mocked. if someone like you lived back then, you would surely clown any person who dare tried to claim the universe was created with a big bang and continues to expand. so who knows what scientists will find out 100 years from now.. as technology advances, its slowly catching up to God. a person with no faith such as yourself will not be able to wrap your mind around this without admitting to yourself that most of science is only THEORY, which constantly CHANGES. meaning it will continue to change…….
not believing in dimensions beyond ours, which we have limited understanding of, in itself is anti-science and frankly, a pretty pretentious outlook if we keepin it a buck
you’re too far to the opposite side of the spectrum to debate matters of mysticism with, so this conversation won’t go anywhere
you’re saying a whole lot without really saying anything.. just the same repeating of “these things are beyond my capability of understanding, so therefore they cannot be real”
LOL
there’s a reason that most scientists believe in a higher power. the fact that they believe in this automatically validates the notion that there are things which cannot be scientifically broken down or understood by the human mind.
If you knew anything about mathematics, you would know that's not what I mean at all. There are tons of dimensions that can be theoretically accounted for with tools like linear algebra and string theory. But you have to be familiar with these ideas - including the agreed upon definition of what a dimension is in the field - to understand what any of this means, which lends itself to my larger point: there is TONS we don't know. It's just that ideas surrounding the unknown are based in a different version of reality than you're familiar with. That would be the real world and not the world of fantasy, goblins, and ghosts. Science is ALL about the unknown; testing theories, making sure they're falsifiable, able to be duplicated, adjusting previous work etc. It's a process of constant refinement. But you're not in the field. You're not a scientist. You do not work in that kind of environment and have not pursued a career in it so I don't expect you to be remotely familiar with how anything works. You're a complete outsider attempting to argue against disciplines you couldn't care less about. Some of the largest breakthroughs have been a consequence of being wrong. It's a great feeling! It's not not the kind of "wrong" you might be thinking. Chemists, biologists, neuroscientists, mathematicians, computer scientists, and others dedicate their entire lives to inquiry. The kinds of questions they are asking are light years beyond what the average person could ever formulate. There's a reason you have to slog through years and years of school to get there; to be a part of those discoveries, to be a part of those teams and labs. The kind of expertise that is required is extremely high level. You can't just crash the party empty handed. This is real work that demands the most advanced minds on the planet. Really figuring things out is hard. It's not just a food fight on a stupid forum where all of that it lost upon everyone. And that's understandable - because no one here does that for a living.
Has it ever occurred to you that every single mystery that has ever been solved in the world turned out NOT to be magic? Religion continues to be an ever-receding pocket of ignorance.
Also, "most scientists" do not believe in a higher power. That's completely false. And the ones who do - some of whom I know personally - define the word "belief" in a completely different (and much more sophisticated) way than you do and also do not bring those beliefs into research because they know belief has absolutely no bearing on experiments. This is basic. But again, you wouldn't know because these are not the kind of individuals you interact with on a daily basis.
I'm saying a whole lot without the kind of receptive intellect on the other end to properly interpret it. You minimize it to spare yourself some embarrassment because it's over your head. These are advanced topics and deep questions; not some elementary school conversation about saturday morning cartoons. As I mentioned before, I do this not so much to spar with you and the others, but to inform anyone who may be silently curious about actual fucking reality. This kind of material is completely out of your league. But perhaps there a few observers who are a bit sharp and may wish to apply themselves in these areas and make a meaningful contribution to humanity.
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If you knew anything about mathematics, you would know that's not what I mean at all. There are tons of dimensions that can be theoretically accounted for with tools like linear algebra and string theory. But you have to be familiar with these ideas - including the agreed upon definition of what a dimension is in the field - to understand what any of this means, which lends itself to my larger point: there is TONS we don't know. It's just that ideas surrounding the unknown are based in a different version of reality than you're familiar with. That would be the real world and not the world of fantasy, goblins, and ghosts. Science is ALL about the unknown; testing theories, making sure they're falsifiable, able to be duplicated, adjusting previous work etc. It's a process of constant refinement. But you're not in the field. You're not a scientist. You do not work in that kind of environment and have not pursued a career in it so I don't expect you to be remotely familiar with how anything works. You're a complete outsider attempting to argue against disciplines you couldn't care less about. Some of the largest breakthroughs have been a consequence of being wrong. It's a great feeling! It's not not the kind of "wrong" you might be thinking. Chemists, biologists, neuroscientists, mathematicians, computer scientists, and others dedicate their entire lives to inquiry. The kinds of questions they are asking are light years beyond what the average person could ever formulate. There's a reason you have to slog through years and years of school to get there; to be a part of those discoveries, to be a part of those teams and labs. The kind of expertise that is required is extremely high level. You can't just crash the party empty handed. This is real work that demands the most advanced minds on the planet. Really figuring things out is hard. It's not just a food fight on a stupid forum where all of that it lost upon everyone. And that's understandable - because no one here does that for a living.
Has it ever occurred to you that every single mystery that has ever been solved in the world turned out NOT to be magic? Religion continues to be an ever-receding pocket of ignorance.
Also, "most scientists" do not believe in a higher power. That's completely false. And the ones who do - some of whom I know personally - define the word "belief" in a completely different (and much more sophisticated) way than you do and also do not bring those beliefs into research because they know belief has absolutely no bearing on experiments. This is basic. But again, you wouldn't know because these are not the kind of individuals you interact with on a daily basis.
I'm saying a whole lot without the kind of receptive intellect on the other end to properly interpret it. You minimize it to spare yourself some embarrassment because it's over your head. These are advanced topics and deep questions; not some elementary school conversation about saturday morning cartoons. As I mentioned before, I do this not so much to spar with you and the others, but to inform anyone who may be silently curious about actual fucking reality. This kind of material is completely out of your league. But perhaps there a few observers who are a bit sharp and may wish to apply themselves in these areas and make a meaningful contribution to humanity.
yo you really believe yourself to be some great superior! wow
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this is what i’m talking about.. people who don’t believe in a higher power tend to walk around with a sense of arrogance on some “i’m the greatest thing walking this earth!” shit
you really just claimed that i couldn’t interpret what you’re saying lmao. how delusional are you? your thoughts are pretty damn simple and not hard at all to understand. and again, youre mostly just repeating the same thing over and over.
you lack spirit, so you try to overcompensate for it with your studies. you don’t need to know every chemical compound of dog shit to know it stinks. no, i am not a scientist, youre right. but i have had many spiritual encounters that could never be explained with science. and again, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that matters of the spirit many times are inexplicable and beyond the scope of human understanding. some of the greatest scientists will tell u this.
you also come off as someone who has never experimented with psychedelics. drugs that open up parts of the mind and spirit that otherwise would’ve never been activated. those who have partaken in them have a vast edge on the outer realms. dimensions beyond our potential perception have indeed been proven. you call it “magic” .. scientists call it the “unknown”. realization that there are things way beyond science that not even the top scientist could explain is not some new phenomenon. for as much as you look up to scientists, they really don’t know not even a 1 trillionth of whats really out there. and despite them knowing more than either of us when it comes to certain things, what i just stated is a fact that is COMMON SENSE. so once you’re able to humble yourself and wrap your mind around THAT, holla at me.
until then, youre better off debating infinite and abusive about flat earth (which, ironically, science at one point believed to be fact lolllll).
:)
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Nah. I posted a video in train of thought entitled 'Tgey sold their soul for rock n roll'. It's more like the devil and rock n roll' go hand and hand. Look in Robert Johnson and the devil, blues and the progression or influence of blues on rock music. Jerry heller used to manage some of the devilish rock groups. The symbolism has been there from the eazy duz it album cover all the way to niggaz4life.
Naw man.. I'm with you on the big issues homie, like Flat Earth and Coward-19--but I can't agree with you about the 80's or 90's golden era of hip-hop; they were still loyal to the hood' and followed the rules of the game, and stayed true to the hood, lived like Gz... either that or they were like KRS-1 and the 80's artists who paved the way and established the standards that hip-hop artists had to subscribe to in the golden age to get respect and gain credibility was key back then.
Now these days an artist doesn't have to have any rep in the game, or any co-sign from the pioneers, the game has changed. So it's possible now for Dre to sell his soul especially at the level he is at being in the billionaire club.
What you were talking about above with Eazy E or like let's say Bone Thugs In Harmony for example or Snoop's Murder Was the Case shit--that was all shit that they came up with and that was hood shit, and gang culture, that was organic. They didn't do that as a result of selling out to the Illuminati, Masonry or no shit like that.
Another example would be Andre 3,000. Like when that dude was wearing dresses and shit in the golden era of rap 90's--that was because that nicca was sprung off Erykah Badu and that pussy had his ass so enlightened that he was in a state of Nirvana. On the other hand, in today's rap game when you see someone like Kid Cudi or Kevin Hart or Will Smith suddenly wearing dresses or some shit those are signs of occult/masonry/selling their soul to the elites.
Chappelle was on Oprah talking about this and Oprah is one of the occult so you can see from her expression that she wanted him to shut up--but Chappele exposed they tried to get him to sell out and wear and dress and these higher ups kept coming back around multiple times trying to pressure him till he finally was like "what the fucc is going on here?!?" and saw the agenda and they ended up trying to cut him off cause he didn't sell out.
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infinite .. do you believe this? :-\
No definitely not.. as I posted above. I mean my friends and I fucced around with weiji boards and shit (and no I haven't been inducted into the Illuminati) in jr. high, and Bone was using all that ill imagery, but that was all artistic and ultimately they followed the rules of the hood and the pioneers that had established the rules to hip-hop and you couldn't violate that in the golden era without losing your respect; and respect mattered back then. So Eazy E's dark imagery or Snoop's Murder Was the Case was just a result of trying to make some hard core gangsta shit--not selling out.
I mean they even had that great movie Tales from The Hood back in the day which was kind of a hip-hop movie. They had dark imagery but it was still hood it wasn't Satanic or Illuminati or Masonry stuff---but Stanley Kubricks the Shining on the other hand is most definitely of the elitist occult.
If Abusive fails to see the difference between Eagles "Hotel California" and Snoop "Murder Was the Case" then I think he's trippin' (though Abusive is my dawg and righteous on the whole)
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yo you really believe yourself to be some great superior! wow
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this is what i’m talking about.. people who don’t believe in a higher power tend to walk around with a sense of arrogance on some “i’m the greatest thing walking this earth!” shit
you really just claimed that i couldn’t interpret what you’re saying lmao. how delusional are you? your thoughts are pretty damn simple and not hard at all to understand. and again, youre mostly just repeating the same thing over and over.
you lack spirit, so you try to overcompensate for it with your studies. you don’t need to know every chemical compound of dog shit to know it stinks. no, i am not a scientist, youre right. but i have had many spiritual encounters that could never be explained with science. and again, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that matters of the spirit many times are inexplicable and beyond the scope of human understanding. some of the greatest scientists will tell u this.
you also come off as someone who has never experimented with psychedelics. drugs that open up parts of the mind and spirit that otherwise would’ve never been activated. those who have partaken in them have a vast edge on the outer realms. dimensions beyond our potential perception have indeed been proven. you call it “magic” .. scientists call it the “unknown”. realization that there are things way beyond science that not even the top scientist could explain is not some new phenomenon. for as much as you look up to scientists, they really don’t know not even a 1 trillionth of whats really out there. and despite them knowing more than either of us when it comes to certain things, what i just stated is a fact that is COMMON SENSE. so once you’re able to humble yourself and wrap your mind around THAT, holla at me.
until then, youre better off debating infinite and abusive about flat earth (which, ironically, science at one point believed to be fact lolllll).
:)
So cringe. This is why education is SO important people. I know cats that understand better English than you.
I'd love to see a proper psych eval done on you and the rest of the rat pack (and maybe some criterion and norm-referenced testing just for fun). As for me, I'm about finished playing in the muck. This petting zoo was fun though. I felt like a tourist.
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yo you really believe yourself to be some great superior! wow
:dead:
this is what i’m talking about.. people who don’t believe in a higher power tend to walk around with a sense of arrogance on some “i’m the greatest thing walking this earth!” shit
you really just claimed that i couldn’t interpret what you’re saying lmao. how delusional are you? your thoughts are pretty damn simple and not hard at all to understand. and again, youre mostly just repeating the same thing over and over.
you lack spirit, so you try to overcompensate for it with your studies. you don’t need to know every chemical compound of dog shit to know it stinks. no, i am not a scientist, youre right. but i have had many spiritual encounters that could never be explained with science. and again, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that matters of the spirit many times are inexplicable and beyond the scope of human understanding. some of the greatest scientists will tell u this.
you also come off as someone who has never experimented with psychedelics. drugs that open up parts of the mind and spirit that otherwise would’ve never been activated. those who have partaken in them have a vast edge on the outer realms. dimensions beyond our potential perception have indeed been proven. you call it “magic” .. scientists call it the “unknown”. realization that there are things way beyond science that not even the top scientist could explain is not some new phenomenon. for as much as you look up to scientists, they really don’t know not even a 1 trillionth of whats really out there. and despite them knowing more than either of us when it comes to certain things, what i just stated is a fact that is COMMON SENSE. so once you’re able to humble yourself and wrap your mind around THAT, holla at me.
until then, youre better off debating infinite and abusive about flat earth (which, ironically, science at one point believed to be fact lolllll).
:)
let me say a few words then for first and last time on this thread.
sometimes i think that there might be a "higher power". even if i believe i can not prove it. nobody can. at least i'm sure if there's a hight power he didnt talk to any man on earth to tell others "i do exist" )))... thats funny. at the end every religious people say "i believe god"... they don't say "i know...".. even if i'd believe it personally i won't be living my life according to that. i'll be living my life with facts i know. those facts are, we need to be good people, we need to have conscious, we need to treat people, animal and nature good. we need to be helpful to people around us, we need to follow science. but do you know how science began? with doubt. we always need to have doubt, thats how science progressed. if you have doubts about any "well known" facts, where you will follow is science again. You need an hypothesis first, then you need to research and then u need to proove it if u can. gravity and globe world were hypothesis before but not today, its been long time they are proved scientificly. to have doubt about thes facts is not science as long as you are not coming with evidences.
What you believe is only interests yourself, i don't care if you adore god or a cow or non of them. (as long as they are not making my life miserable with what they believe). i only care about if you are a good person or not. but i don't respect any man who doesn't believe in science. it's a waste of living.
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So cringe. This is why education is SO important people. I know cats that understand better English than you.
I'd love to see a proper psych eval done on you and the rest of the rat pack (and maybe some criterion and norm-referenced testing just for fun). As for me, I'm about finished playing in the muck. This petting zoo was fun though. I felt like a tourist.
look at your first post in this thread. you’re the definition of a pompous douchebag bro. you might wana work on that “holier than thou” personality. it’s truly reminiscent of the child who walks around the playground telling the other children “my daddy can beat up yours!”.. there are ways to debate without stooping to that adolescent level of self-importance. if you were truly a “superior”, you would absolutely never use ad-hominem attacks on those who you felt lacked an understanding. in fact, you would be able to to thoroughly explain and educate with your knowledge, which you clearly aren’t capable of. instead, you start getting frustrated like a petulant child and begin hurling insults, attacking others with your condescending bullshit. even if you were right in some of the things you say, that attitude instantly turns people off. this in itself is proof of a lower level of intellect. all the book smarts in the world won’t fix that. it’ll take some true self reflecting on the spiritual side of things for growth in that area. believe that.
“like, so cringe.. i am above all of you! you believe in magic. ha ha ha! so dumb! like a universe that springs up out of nothing and creates itself so isn’t magic at all guys!”
and to be quite frank, since you took it to that level, i am now permitted to match that energy.. and let me tell you, all the research and studies in the world will never save you from the level of idiocy it takes to believe in a creation without a creator.
peace out brodie. we are not worthy.
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let me say a few words then for first and last time on this thread.
sometimes i think that there might be a "higher power". even if i believe i can not prove it. nobody can. at least i'm sure if there's a hight power he didnt talk to any man on earth to tell others "i do exist" )))... thats funny. at the end every religious people say "i believe god"... they don't say "i know...".. even if i'd believe it personally i won't be living my life according to that. i'll be living my life with facts i know. those facts are, we need to be good people, we need to have conscious, we need to treat people, animal and nature good. we need to be helpful to people around us, we need to follow science. but do you know how science began? with doubt. we always need to have doubt, thats how science progressed. if you have doubts about any "well known" facts, where you will follow is science again. You need an hypothesis first, then you need to research and then u need to proove it if u can. gravity and globe world were hypothesis before but not today, its been long time they are proved scientificly. to have doubt about thes facts is not science as long as you are not coming with evidences.
What you believe is only interests yourself, i don't care if you adore god or a cow or non of them. (as long as they are not making my life miserable with what they believe). i only care about if you are a good person or not. but i don't respect any man who doesn't believe in science. it's a waste of living.
at least you are questioning.. that is lightyears above acting like you definitively know you are the greatest thing on earth and that there’s no way the earth was created. that’s why i can respect a man like you, despite the difference in thought. we need to always question and seek to find more.
as for those who totally write off science being dumb, i agree.. science is great. not all science is definitive though. a lot of science is heavily flawed. but science definitely helped humanity with countless advancements. which is why i recommended multiple books to that pretentious asshole about science that literally prove many findings in the divine scriptures.
you say sometimes you believe in a higher power, but no way this higher power ever spoke to people. so you are putting it past a higher power to be able to communicate with us? how does that even make sense?? you know the level of intelligence it would take to create us? to think we know or are capable of more than a creator is flat out ridiculous. look up the scientists who adhered to scripture. some of the greatest of all time.
as the world continues to grow and science continues to advance, the spiritual realm continues to dwindle on this earth. we see it every day, life is becoming more and more mechanical and we clearly don’t have much long left. each generation becomes farther removed from God. so to claim “there’s absolutely no way a higher power ever communicated!” once again, shows a lack of understanding as to what God is capable of. with all due respect, i enjoy debating this with people like you because you’re grounded and don’t walk around as some superior authority ala ol boy who practically thinks he’s God. now that’s the kinda attitude i can’t get down with, but you’re clearly past that adolescent “i know it all!” stage, so salute on that front.
bottom line, the greater the creation, the greater the creator .. there is absolutely nothing the most high isn’t capable of.
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Naw man.. I'm with you on the big issues homie, like Flat Earth and Coward-19--but I can't agree with you about the 80's or 90's golden era of hip-hop; they were still loyal to the hood' and followed the rules of the game, and stayed true to the hood, lived like Gz... either that or they were like KRS-1 and the 80's artists who paved the way and established the standards that hip-hop artists had to subscribe to in the golden age to get respect and gain credibility was key back then.
Now these days an artist doesn't have to have any rep in the game, or any co-sign from the pioneers, the game has changed. So it's possible now for Dre to sell his soul especially at the level he is at being in the billionaire club.
What you were talking about above with Eazy E or like let's say Bone Thugs In Harmony for example or Snoop's Murder Was the Case shit--that was all shit that they came up with and that was hood shit, and gang culture, that was organic. They didn't do that as a result of selling out to the Illuminati, Masonry or no shit like that.
Another example would be Andre 3,000. Like when that dude was wearing dresses and shit in the golden era of rap 90's--that was because that nicca was sprung off Erykah Badu and that pussy had his ass so enlightened that he was in a state of Nirvana. On the other hand, in today's rap game when you see someone like Kid Cudi or Kevin Hart or Will Smith suddenly wearing dresses or some shit those are signs of occult/masonry/selling their soul to the elites.
Chappelle was on Oprah talking about this and Oprah is one of the occult so you can see from her expression that she wanted him to shut up--but Chappele exposed they tried to get him to sell out and wear and dress and these higher ups kept coming back around multiple times trying to pressure him till he finally was like "what the fucc is going on here?!?" and saw the agenda and they ended up trying to cut him off cause he didn't sell out.
You don't know what you're talking about bro. The first eazy album had skull n bones, red/black + black/white symbolism. That's just on that album alone. You've never seen this about bone?
https://youtu.be/coThSxoE5GY
That's hood ish to you?
Yeah like g's.
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krs-1? He into the 5%er doctrine which is rooted in freemasonry.
I've already posted a video talking about Snoop selling his soul with murder was the case. The guy he kilt was probably his blood sacrifice.
Stop quoting me and don't ever challenge me again.
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No definitely not.. as I posted above. I mean my friends and I fucced around with weiji boards and shit (and no I haven't been inducted into the Illuminati) in jr. high, and Bone was using all that ill imagery, but that was all artistic and ultimately they followed the rules of the hood and the pioneers that had established the rules to hip-hop and you couldn't violate that in the golden era without losing your respect; and respect mattered back then. So Eazy E's dark imagery or Snoop's Murder Was the Case was just a result of trying to make some hard core gangsta shit--not selling out.
I mean they even had that great movie Tales from The Hood back in the day which was kind of a hip-hop movie. They had dark imagery but it was still hood it wasn't Satanic or Illuminati or Masonry stuff---but Stanley Kubricks the Shining on the other hand is most definitely of the elitist occult.
If Abusive fails to see the difference between Eagles "Hotel California" and Snoop "Murder Was the Case" then I think he's trippin' (though Abusive is my dawg and righteous on the whole)
nah I'm not your dawg. Your Koran says to kill anyone who insults the "prophet" Muhammad. Be true to what you say you believe.
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So what’s next for Game’s album rollout now that the Eminem stunt came and went?
Maybe diss Fauci? Jesus? Obama?
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The stream of moronic word vomit continues. Please don't use the word "study" to describe anything you're doing ::).
For the record: After the dinosaurs died out, nearly 65 million years passed before primate evolution on Earth.
The bible is not a history book. Try taking a course in ecology, marine biology, astrophysics, archeology, paleontology, and evolutionary biology. You'd flunk out of all of them but that's where actual information is. Not even a century of Egyptology research or Israeli archeology has produced a shred of evidence for any story in that book (that was sporadically written several hundred years after the person they're talking about died by a group of schizophrenics who never knew him or could confirm his mere existence). Any real theologian understands that the text is not to be taken literally; it's mythology packaged into a metaphor - and unoriginal at that.
The similarities between the stories and characters in the Bible and those from previous mythologies are both undeniable and well-documented. Jesus’s story is an obvious rehashing of numerous previous characters like Asklepios, Hercules, Dionysus, Osiris, Mithra, Krishna, Buddha, and even a contemporary of Jesus, Apollonius of Tyana. These previous narratives existed hundreds to thousands of years before Jesus did. The genesis flood story mirrors the epic of Gilgamesh hundreds of years earlier (and they never tell you that Noah was 500 years old in church because you might think it's bullshit ;)).
The text is self-defeating in that it attempts to root itself in historical claims and since we have an overwhelming amount of evidence that those claims are false (thanks to basic human progress and modern technology), it creates a lot of problems for christian theology. It has no independent means of verification or discernment. The best they can do is try and alter the theology to fit the facts, which turns out to be quite the mess - we basically get Jesus riding a Velociraptor ;D
The catholic church held back physics for 2,000 years. Innumerable people were executed and burned at the stake for even asking the simplest of questions. Even Galileo was forced to recount his claims (while secretly admitting through letters to his daughter that his observations were in fact correct - and they were). And we won't even get into the millennia of mass pedophilia, prejudice, rape, tribalism, slavery, murder, homophobia, racism, sexism, and the teaching of self-hatred that inundates this institution to this day. Anyone who asks you to kill your child to prove you love him is a fucking psycho. And anyone who seriously thinks that a ghost who impregnates teenage girls with himself is telling them that is in dire need of medication and a padded room.
Here is some Bible history for you.
Here are some mentions of king Cyrus in the bible.
https://sarata.com/bible/verses/about/cyrus.html
King Herod:
https://sarata.com/bible/indexa.php?query=King%20herod
This article discusses King Herod.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/finding-king-herods-tomb-34296862/
Caesar Augustus -
Biblical references: https://sarata.com/bible/indexa.php?query=Caesar%20Augustus
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Augustus-Roman-emperor
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500 year old people building boats for a flood higher than Mt. Everest
I wanted to touch on this from a few different angles. One is that you assume everest was around during the flood. It may have formed after. My second point is that no one knows how tall it was during the flood because mountains rise. If it was already there.
However you are correct though.
Genesis chapter eight confirms that the mountains were covered with water.
5 And the waters decreased continually until the tenth month: in the tenth month, on the first day of the month, were the tops of the mountains seen.
As do these verses;
Psalm 104:5-9
5 Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever. 6 Thou coveredst it with the deep as with a garment: the waters stood above the mountains. 7 At thy rebuke they fled; at the voice of thy thunder they hasted away. 8 They go up by the mountains; they go down by the valleys unto the place which thou hast founded for them. 9 Thou hast set a bound that they may not pass over; that they turn not again to cover the earth.
They have found marine fossils on Everest which is commonly used as evidence of a global flood or at the very least that waters were once that high. I would like to hear your explanation as to why this is.
Not sure why water that high would be surprising though from a scientific standpoint. If you take the deepest point of the sea and compare ground level to the top of Everest, you will see that Everest could fit into that area and be covered with water.
In the Pacific Ocean, somewhere between Guam and the Philippines, lies the Marianas Trench, also known as the Mariana Trench. At 35,814 feet below sea level, its bottom is called the Challenger Deep — the deepest point known on Earth.Jan 23, 2019
Mount Everest's peak is the highest altitude above mean sea level at 29,029 feet [8,848 meters].Jan 19, 2022
Not sure how the biblical story and science conflict here. I would like to hear some feedback.
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I wanted to touch on this from a few different angles. One is that you assume everest was around during the flood. It may have formed after. My second point is that no one knows how tall it was during the flood because mountains rise. If it was already there.
However you are correct though.
Genesis chapter eight confirms that the mountains were covered with water.
5 And the waters decreased continually until the tenth month: in the tenth month, on the first day of the month, were the tops of the mountains seen.
As do these verses;
Psalm 104:5-9
5 Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever. 6 Thou coveredst it with the deep as with a garment: the waters stood above the mountains. 7 At thy rebuke they fled; at the voice of thy thunder they hasted away. 8 They go up by the mountains; they go down by the valleys unto the place which thou hast founded for them. 9 Thou hast set a bound that they may not pass over; that they turn not again to cover the earth.
They have found marine fossils on Everest which is commonly used as evidence of a global flood or at the very least that waters were once that high. I would like to hear your explanation as to why this is.
Not sure why water that high would be surprising though from a scientific standpoint. If you take the deepest point of the sea and compare ground level to the top of Everest, you will see that Everest could fit into that area and be covered with water.
Not sure how the biblical story and science conflict here. I would like to hear some feedback.
u can let it go now .. dude tucked his tail n ran off, like most limp wrist liberals do when pressed
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u can let it go now .. dude tucked his tail n ran off, like most limp wrist liberals do when pressed
You can literally hear the circus music in this thread. ;D
But don't worry. You guys can lob your ad hominems, break out your crayons, and evangelize in your superman pajamas in peace.
This is the internet. No one's running or tucking tails or being pressed ::). How threatening do you think you are? ;D I just have a life is all. Sparring in forums doesn't count.
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You can literally hear the circus music in this thread. ;D
But don't worry. You guys can lob your ad hominems, break out your crayons, and evangelize in your superman pajamas in peace.
This is the internet. No one's running or tucking tails or being pressed ::). How threatening do you think you are? ;D I just have a life is all. Sparring in forums doesn't count.
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damn.. so witty. good job. everybody totally thinks you’re cool and super smart now because of how well spoken you are.
JK
lol @ telling a jew to “evangelize” .. classix
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nah I'm not your dawg. Your Koran says to kill anyone who insults the "prophet" Muhammad. Be true to what you say you believe.
I don't know why you are trying so hard to be the enemy of someone who is on the same side of as you. I really don't understand that, and you have never answered that question. I've mentioned it many times on here that I don't understand why this dude hates me when we are on the same side politically.
I do not follow political Islam (Shariah), I am politically a Libertarian/volunteerism in the Harry Browne/Ron Paul/Rand Paul mode of Libertarianism. I take freedom as the highest principal politically. Not only that we are both headz at the same forum, musical, cultural influence. So why would you want to make me your enemy bro? I have enough enemies, and people who disagree with me, the last thing I'm trying to do is make enemies with anyone who is a flat earther and against the Coward-19 Narrative--you are the good guys in 2022, and on the side of right. So hate if you want, but I still take you as a homie.
So if you even hate on the people who support your views, and align themselves with you politically, then you ultimately are just a hateful person--no matter the other person's position. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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let me say a few words then for first and last time on this thread.
sometimes i think that there might be a "higher power". even if i believe i can not prove it. nobody can. at least i'm sure if there's a hight power he didnt talk to any man on earth to tell others "i do exist" )))... thats funny. at the end every religious people say "i believe god"... they don't say "i know...".. even if i'd believe it personally i won't be living my life according to that. i'll be living my life with facts i know. those facts are, we need to be good people, we need to have conscious, we need to treat people, animal and nature good. we need to be helpful to people around us, we need to follow science. but do you know how science began? with doubt. we always need to have doubt, thats how science progressed. if you have doubts about any "well known" facts, where you will follow is science again. You need an hypothesis first, then you need to research and then u need to proove it if u can. gravity and globe world were hypothesis before but not today, its been long time they are proved scientificly. to have doubt about thes facts is not science as long as you are not coming with evidences.
What you believe is only interests yourself, i don't care if you adore god or a cow or non of them. (as long as they are not making my life miserable with what they believe). i only care about if you are a good person or not. but i don't respect any man who doesn't believe in science. it's a waste of living.
yo, you good homie
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I don't know why you are trying so hard to be the enemy of someone who is on the same side of as you. I really don't understand that, and you have never answered that question. I've mentioned it many times on here that I don't understand why this dude hates me when we are on the same side politically.
I do not follow political Islam (Shariah), I am politically a Libertarian/volunteerism in the Harry Browne/Ron Paul/Rand Paul mode of Libertarianism. I take freedom as the highest principal politically. Not only that we are both headz at the same forum, musical, cultural influence. So why would you want to make me your enemy bro? I have enough enemies, and people who disagree with me, the last thing I'm trying to do is make enemies with anyone who is a flat earther and against the Coward-19 Narrative--you are the good guys in 2022, and on the side of right. So hate if you want, but I still take you as a homie.
So if you even hate on the people who support your views, and align themselves with you politically, then you ultimately are just a hateful person--no matter the other person's position. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Your religion is anti-christ.
We are not the same. You're low key stalking me at this point. You addressed me yet again but not what I posted. Go download you a dating app, this is a message board.
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Your religion is anti-christ.
We are not the same. You're low key stalking me at this point. You addressed me yet again but not what I posted. Go download you a dating app, this is a message board.
jesus is literally a prophet in islam
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jesus is literally a prophet in islam
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My post was for infinite.
Infinite does the Quran say that God has a son? If so, post the verse.
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damn.. so witty. good job. everybody totally thinks you’re cool and super smart now because of how well spoken you are.
JK
lol @ telling a jew to “evangelize” .. classix
At least someone appreciates my humor ;D
Oh common, I'm sure you've gotten the impression that I don't care what you guys think - this is lightweight sparring in an immaterial domain - but in case that has somehow escaped you allow me to reaffirm ;)
Buy hey, you guys are the cool kids - you're the "chosen" people, who think that the only significant event that ever occurred was the creation of human beings 3,000 years ago (it's ~250,000 but who's counting) on a scale beyond imagination that doesn't account for the numerous other species of hominids who existed prior to homo-sapiens much earlier - and all of this is part of a plan... It's some plan isn't it? All of this historical mass destruction, extermination, and annihilation occurring perpetually - and all of it set in motion so that people like the pope can tell you not to jerk off. ;D
Let the terminus of un-freedom by the celestial dictator continue. Enjoy what's left of democracy now because when you die, the real fun begins ;D
As for us heathens, all the hookers and coke are down in the fire pit. And by now, there's enough scientific geniuses who've died that we've certainly reinvented air conditioning ;)
P.S. I didn't include you in the pack when I used the word "evangelize", sorry about that. You get a special word: proselytize. :laugh:
P.S.S. All you flat-earthers: here's your chance! Looks like the first space hotel is set to be operational ahead of schedule in 2025. Start saving your pennies :)
https://orbitalassembly.com/
https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/space-hotel-orbital-assembly-scn/index.html
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At least someone appreciates my humor ;D
Oh common, I'm sure you've gotten the impression that I don't care what you guys think - this is lightweight sparring in an immaterial domain - but in case that has somehow escaped you allow me to reaffirm ;)
Buy hey, you guys are the cool kids - you're the "chosen" people, who think that the only significant event that ever occurred was the creation of human beings 3,000 years ago (it's ~250,000 but who's counting) on a scale beyond imagination that doesn't account for the numerous other species of hominids who existed prior to homo-sapiens much earlier - and all of this is part of a plan... It's some plan isn't it? All of this historical mass destruction, extermination, and annihilation occurring perpetually - and all of it set in motion so that people like the pope can tell you not to jerk off. ;D
Let the terminus of un-freedom by the celestial dictator continue. Enjoy what's left of democracy now because when you die, the real fun begins ;D
As for us heathens, all the hookers and coke are down in the fire pit. And by now, there's enough scientific geniuses who've died that we've certainly reinvented air conditioning ;)
P.S. I didn't include you in the pack when I used the word "evangelize", sorry about that. You get a special word: proselytize. :laugh:
P.S.S. All you flat-earthers: here's your chance! Looks like the first space hotel is set to be operational ahead of schedule in 2025. Start saving your pennies :)
https://orbitalassembly.com/
https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/space-hotel-orbital-assembly-scn/index.html
you spending way too much time in your mothers basement bruh
lowkey starting to sound like a kool keith song, shit
really though, there might’ve been other worlds before us. that’s not for us to determine and the scientific THEORIES (which regularly get debunked and rewritten) will not change the fact that the scriptures (which always stay the same) apply only to our specific species. as much as you want it to, science does not disprove God in any way shape or form. in fact, it’s quite the contrary. the problem is that youve never taken the time to delve into anything outside of your own “definitively” formulated thoughts and conclusions based on what you’ve been conditioned to believe. a lot of it is rooted in ignorance on matters outside of what you know.
again, to laugh off a higher power as “magic” and then go on about how the world sprung into existence on its own with zero intelligent design is mind blowingly retarded .. but i guess you’ve read a lot of science novels, so that totally negates your natural lack of spiritual prowess and deficiency in common sense, right?
i’m not a flat earther btw .. and every talking point you’ve used to try and debunk scripture has been thoroughly addressed and explained in the books i’ve recommended (which you wont read due to your reluctancy to grow). you simply do not have the capacity for it…..for now.
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Your religion is anti-christ.
We are not the same. You're low key stalking me at this point. You addressed me yet again but not what I posted. Go download you a dating app, this is a message board.
That’s because you are trying to fight me on some stuff I ain’t even trying to fight you on. I saw your statements and questions on Islam and I didn’t even have a problem with them, and you still want to fight me on that. So who is stalking who?
The guy looking for a fight with someone who has no problem with him—is the stalker. Like I said—I consider you good people, so what’s the problem? Did your mom not hug you enough when you were a kid or something?
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you spending way too much time in your mothers basement bruh
lowkey starting to sound like a kool keith song, shit
really though, there might’ve been other worlds before us. that’s not for us to determine and the scientific THEORIES (which regularly get debunked and rewritten) will not change the fact that the scriptures (which always stay the same) apply only to our specific species. as much as you want it to, science does not disprove God in any way shape or form. in fact, it’s quite the contrary. the problem is that youve never taken the time to delve into anything outside of your own “definitively” formulated thoughts and conclusions based on what you’ve been conditioned to believe. a lot of it is rooted in ignorance on matters outside of what you know.
again, to laugh off a higher power as “magic” and then go on about how the world sprung into existence on its own with zero intelligent design is mind blowingly retarded .. but i guess you’ve read a lot of science novels, so that totally negates your natural lack of spiritual prowess and deficiency in common sense, right?
i’m not a flat earther btw .. and every talking point you’ve used to try and debunk scripture has been thoroughly addressed and explained in the books i’ve recommended (which you wont read due to your reluctancy to grow). you simply do not have the capacity for it…..for now.
To be clear, I'm actually in YOUR mother's basement. :shittedon:
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To be clear, I'm actually in YOUR mother's basement. :shittedon:
*rimshot*
:lulz:
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9 million children die annually around the world before reaching the age of 5. So before I finish typing the end of this sentence, some few children very likely will die in terror and agony. Let's take a second think of the parents in these scenarios who are probably praying at this moment for their children to be spared. They will not - and this is all part of god's plan. Any god who would allow children to die in this way either can do nothing to help them or doesn't care to. Worse still, most of these people will be going to hell because they're praying to the wrong god. So through no fault of their own, they just happened to be born into the wrong culture where they got the wrong theology, and miss the revelation.
There's over a billion people in India right now - most of whom are Hindus and therefore polytheists. So in any other religious person's universe - mainly christians - no matter how good these people are, they're doomed. An eternity of torture. Evidence? None. It just says so in Mark 9 and Revelation 14. For comparison, in the Lord of The Rings, when the elves die, they go to Valenor but they can be reborn in Middle Earth.
So god created the cultural isolation of the Hindus and engineered the circumstances of their deaths in ignorance of Revelation? And then he created the penalty for this ignorance, which is an eternity of torment in fire? But on the other hand, your average serial killer in America who spent his life raping and torturing children need only come to god on death row and after a final meal of fried chicken, he'll spend an eternity in heaven.
If nothing else is clear at all, this vision of life doesn't have a fucking ounce of moral accountability in it. Note the double standard used to exonerate god from all this evil: god is loving, kind, just, and intrinsically good but when someone like myself points out the obvious and compelling evidence that this deity is cruel and unjust because he visits suffering on innocent people of a scope and scale that would embarrass the most ambitious psychopath, we're told that god is "mysterious." That's like playing tennis without the net and speaking this way is morally reprehensible.
Speaking of morality, here's a moral question for the faithful: Which is worse? A 52-year-old prophet marrying a 6-year-old but waiting until she was a "mature" 9-year-old to fuck her - OR - the creator of the universe raping a 12-year-old virgin so he could give birth to himself?
I remember seeing a sign from a methodist church that read: "Faith is believing in something when common sense tells you not to." Tragically, these people have no idea how true that really is.
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9 million children die annually around the world before reaching the age of 5. So before I finish typing the end of this sentence, some few children very likely will die in terror and agony. Let's take a second think of the parents in these scenarios who are probably praying at this moment for their children to be spared. They will not - and this is all part of god's plan. Any god who would allow children to die in this way either can do nothing to help them or doesn't care to. Worse still, most of these people will be going to hell because they're praying to the wrong god. So through no fault of their own, they just happened to be born into the wrong culture where they got the wrong theology, and miss the revelation.
There's over a billion people in India right now - most of whom are Hindus and therefore polytheists. So in any other religious person's universe - mainly christians - no matter how good these people are, they're doomed. An eternity of torture. Evidence? None. It just says so in Mark 9 and Revelation 14. For comparison, in the Lord of The Rings, when the elves die, they go to Valenor but they can be reborn in Middle Earth.
So god created the cultural isolation of the Hindus and engineered the circumstances of their deaths in ignorance of Revelation? And then he created the penalty for this ignorance, which is an eternity of torment in fire? But on the other hand, your average serial killer in America who spent his life raping and torturing children need only come to god on death row and after a final meal of fried chicken, he'll spend an eternity in heaven.
If nothing else is clear at all, this vision of life doesn't have a fucking ounce of moral accountability in it. Note the double standard used to exonerate god from all this evil: god is loving, kind, just, and intrinsically good but when someone like myself points out the obvious and compelling evidence that this deity is cruel and unjust because he visits suffering on innocent people of a scope and scale that would embarrass the most ambitious psychopath, we're told that god is "mysterious." That's like playing tennis without the net and speaking this way is morally reprehensible.
Speaking of morality, here's a moral question for the faithful: Which is worse? A 52-year-old prophet marrying a 6-year-old but waiting until she was a "mature" 9-year-old to fuck her - OR - the creator of the universe raping a 12-year-old virgin so he could give birth to himself?
I remember seeing a sign from a methodist church that read: "Faith is believing in something when common sense tells you not to." Tragically, these people have no idea how true that really is.
i’ll start with your first paragraph .. your problem here is that you think there is nothing beyond this life. you believe that when you die, that’s it. you fail to understand the basic SCIENTIFIC laws of energy. energy TRANSFERS. when we die, our energy simply leaves our body. but in your mind, you actually believe you know best. better than the creator. unbelievably arrogant. do you not understand that your mind cannot comprehend even .0001% of what is actually out there? “oh man a child dies, sooooo sad, why does God let that happen?!” .. so i guess according to you, human emotions is what this is all about? again, if you understand the concept of GREATER dimensions, a world to come, perhaps you would be able to wrap your mind around the fact that death is truly not a sad thing. there’s nothing wrong with death, outside of the limited capacity within human emotions, which mean NOTHING in the grand scheme of things. your book smarts make you seem intelligent on the outside looking in, but this argument was anything but….
i’m not sure about christianity.. it’s mostly just a whitewashed remix of judaism as far as i know, but what i can speak of is our own scripture. those people in india are not doomed. even gentiles can make it to the world to come, as long as they follow the basics (don’t kill, don’t steal, etc.. basically just being a good human) .. now is there levels to the world to come? of course. like anything else in life, the more u sacrifice, the higher level u reach.
i don’t think God is unjust in any way. i just think you feel like you are the greatest thing walking this earth, so you know best. what you know is definitive! right? submission to the creator is very important. so yea, someone like u is totally fucked if u continue on this path of “i’m the answer!”..
it seems to me like you’re far more familiar with christianity, which is what you’ve based most your posts around… yes, christianity is full of contradictions and confusion. look into judaism.. but don’t go into it relentlessly seeking error. go in with an open mind and see what u can fine. you wont regret it.
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i’ll start with your first paragraph .. your problem here is that you think there is nothing beyond this life. you believe that when you die, that’s it. you fail to understand the basic SCIENTIFIC laws of energy. energy TRANSFERS. when we die, our energy simply leaves our body. but in your mind, you actually believe you know best. better than the creator. unbelievably arrogant. do you not understand that your mind cannot comprehend even .0001% of what is actually out there? “oh man a child dies, sooooo sad, why does God let that happen?!” .. so i guess according to you, human emotions is what this is all about? again, if you understand the concept of GREATER dimensions, a world to come, perhaps you would be able to wrap your mind around the fact that death is truly not a sad thing. there’s nothing wrong with death, outside of the limited capacity within human emotions, which mean NOTHING in the grand scheme of things. your book smarts make you seem intelligent on the outside looking in, but this argument was anything but….
i’m not sure about christianity.. it’s mostly just a whitewashed remix of judaism as far as i know, but what i can speak of is our own scripture. those people in india are not doomed. even gentiles can make it to the world to come, as long as they follow the basics (don’t kill, don’t steal, etc.. basically just being a good human) .. now is there levels to the world to come? of course. like anything else in life, the more u sacrifice, the higher level u reach.
i don’t think God is unjust in any way. i just think you feel like you are the greatest thing walking this earth, so you know best. what you know is definitive! right? submission to the creator is very important. so yea, someone like u is totally fucked if u continue on this path of “i’m the answer!”..
it seems to me like you’re far more familiar with christianity, which is what you’ve based most your posts around… yes, christianity is full of contradictions and confusion. look into judaism.. but don’t go into it relentlessly seeking error. go in with an open mind and see what u can fine. you wont regret it.
Please feel free to demonstrate the existence of this mysterious "energy" you speak of and recite these specific laws of energy and energy transfer you mention. Demonstrate how they work. Also, please source your percentage of 0.0001%. Where did you get it from? How did you calculate it? What information did you use to derive it? Also, how do you define a dimension? Whatever your idea of that is, it's not congruent to the way any to how a mathematician or astrophysicist would understand it but please, explain and be explicit. You throw around words like "energy" and "dimensions" very loosely without actually defining them. In science, words mean things - very specific things that must be universally understood for anyone to know what anyone else is talking about.
Also, if you want to know what I think. just ask. My view on an afterlife is that it's 99.9% unlikely. Saying it's 100% is unscientific because I don't know definitively. No one can. You on the other hand, claim to have the answer that there is. Ironically, you base it on the fact that we know almost zero - or 0.0001% as you say - about life and the universe you live in? Seems pretty backwards. How can you make a definitive claim like that while admitting you know jack shit in general? You're really not even respecting the depth of the question itself. These are a part of some of the most profound and serious existential questions surrounding human life. Anyone who claims to have a definitive answer right now is full of shit. In science it's actually the opposite. We demonstrably show how much we don't know by asking better and better questions. Each answer leads to a deeper unknown for more advanced topics surrounding the cosmos. Being wrong is where the breakthroughs happen. Being humbled is a part of science so when you mention arrogance, that seems more like a personal problem but it's certainly not present in any real laboratory studying these topics.
The test of a good argument is that it’s falsifiable, not unfalsifiable. Now if you subscribe to the idea that everything science has proved to be real - including evolution - is now just another regression of a divine plan, you’re free to believe that a sentient creator of sorts put his/her/itself to the trouble of going through huge epochs of birth and death of species over eons of time in course of which 99.9% of all life forms ever to appear on Earth have become extinct (as we nearly did as a species ourselves - I invite you to look up the incredible account by the National Geographic’s coordinator of the genome project (P.S. You should all send in your saliva sample and have your African ancestry traced - it’s pretty awesome to follow the mitochondrial DNA that we all have in common with each other and other species, primates, and life forms and find out where in Africa you came form). About 180,000 years ago there was a global warming event - probably in what is now Indonesia - that reduced the entire human population to about 30-40,000. Pretty close to nothing. That’s our real exodus story and we don’t know how because it isn’t written in any scripture or told in any superstitious narrative but somehow we escaped to cooler latitudes. And all this should happen so that a very imperfect race of evolved primates should have opportunity to become christians or to write in this forum right now? All of that was done with us in mind? That’s a pretty interesting kind of solipsism. You talk about arrogance. There’s a certain arrogance to this assumption that all of this extraordinary development was all about us and we were the intended result - and everything else was in the discard. What waste but at least we’re here right? Doesn’t work for me and I think there are definitely questions in psychology involved in this as well.
As far a Judaism goes, sure we can go there too whenever I have the time but you really need to improve your arguing. It's horrible. there's nothing behind it. You need to be able to point to something that factors out and is agnostic to your own biases. This is a requirement for ANY experiment conducted in a lab or any philosophical argument made between serious people. Maybe take an online course in modal logic or philosophy of mind to start? ;)
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Please feel free to demonstrate the existence of this mysterious "energy" you speak of and recite these specific laws of energy and energy transfer you mention. Demonstrate how they work. Also, please source your percentage of 0.0001%. Where did you get it from? How did you calculate it? What information did you use to derive it? Also, how do you define a dimension? Whatever your idea of that is, it's not congruent to the way any to how a mathematician or astrophysicist would understand it but please, explain and be explicit. You throw around words like "energy" and "dimensions" very loosely without actually defining them. In science, words mean things - very specific things that must be universally understood for anyone to know what anyone else is talking about.
Also, if you want to know what I think. just ask. My view on an afterlife is that it's 99.9% unlikely. Saying it's 100% is unscientific because I don't know definitively. No one can. You on the other hand, claim to have the answer that there is. Ironically, you base it on the fact that we know almost zero - or 0.0001% as you say - about life and the universe you live in? Seems pretty backwards. How can you make a definitive claim like that while admitting you know jack shit in general? You're really not even respecting the depth of the question itself. These are a part of some of the most profound and serious existential questions surrounding human life. Anyone who claims to have a definitive answer right now is full of shit. In science it's actually the opposite. We demonstrably show how much we don't know by asking better and better questions. Each answer leads to a deeper unknown for more advanced topics surrounding the cosmos. Being wrong is where the breakthroughs happen. Being humbled is a part of science so when you mention arrogance, that seems more like a personal problem but it's certainly not present in any real laboratory studying these topics.
The test of a good argument is that it’s falsifiable, not unfalsifiable. Now if you subscribe to the idea that everything science has proved to be real - including evolution - is now just another regression of a divine plan, you’re free to believe that a sentient creator of sorts put his/her/itself to the trouble of going through huge epochs of birth and death of species over eons of time in course of which 99.9% of all life forms ever to appear on Earth have become extinct (as we nearly did as a species ourselves - I invite you to look up the incredible account by the National Geographic’s coordinator of the genome project (P.S. You should all send in your saliva sample and have your African ancestry traced - it’s pretty awesome to follow the mitochondrial DNA that we all have in common with each other and other species, primates, and life forms and find out where in Africa you came form). About 180,000 years ago there was a global warming event - probably in what is now Indonesia - that reduced the entire human population to about 30-40,000. Pretty close to nothing. That’s our real exodus story and we don’t know how because it isn’t written in any scripture or told in any superstitious narrative but somehow we escaped to cooler latitudes. And all this should happen so that a very imperfect race of evolved primates should have opportunity to become christians or to write in this forum right now? All of that was done with us in mind? That’s a pretty interesting kind of solipsism. You talk about arrogance. There’s a certain arrogance to this assumption that all of this extraordinary development was all about us and we were the intended result - and everything else was in the discard. What waste but at least we’re here right? Doesn’t work for me and I think there are definitely questions in psychology involved in this as well.
As far a Judaism goes, sure we can go there too whenever I have the time but you really need to improve your arguing. It's horrible. there's nothing behind it. You need to be able to point to something that factors out and is agnostic to your own biases. This is a requirement for ANY experiment conducted in a lab or any philosophical argument made between serious people. Maybe take an online course in modal logic or philosophy of mind to start? ;)
here’s the answer to your very strange questions “what is energy” “what is a dimension” ….
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2095754818300358
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/our-continued-existence-means-other-dimensions-are-probably-super-tiny-180970487/
you probably won’t read that or might even come back
with a smart ass reply, but there u go..if you’re seriously curious and not just putting on an act, you can start by reading those.
i know your type bruh.. you overload your mind with useless information, thinking it makes you smart. in reality, our brains are like drawers. you can stuff them full of different items, but it’s better to keep only what’s truly needed because there’s only a certain amount it can hold. you can either break things down to it’s simplest form (what truly intelligent people do), or you can try your hardest to sound like some pretentious intellect by overcomplexifying simple concepts in order to come off as superior.
judaism is literally responsible for modern science, but u don’t know that because u probably grew up in a church where your priest molested young children, so now you hate religion with a passion and dedicate your life to debunking it.
https://momentmag.com/jewish-thought-influenced-science/
if you aren’t willing to read the material i provide, u can kick rocks n keep reading your science bible, because there’s no helping some1 like u.
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This is exactly the kind of reaction Game was hoping to get by baiting Eminem lol
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That’s because you are trying to fight me on some stuff I ain’t even trying to fight you on. I saw your statements and questions on Islam and I didn’t even have a problem with them, and you still want to fight me on that. So who is stalking who?
The guy looking for a fight with someone who has no problem with him—is the stalker. Like I said—I consider you good people, so what’s the problem? Did your mom not hug you enough when you were a kid or something?
Stop mentioning me.
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i’ll start with your first paragraph .. your problem here is that you think there is nothing beyond this life. you believe that when you die, that’s it. you fail to understand the basic SCIENTIFIC laws of energy. energy TRANSFERS. when we die, our energy simply leaves our body. but in your mind, you actually believe you know best. better than the creator. unbelievably arrogant. do you not understand that your mind cannot comprehend even .0001% of what is actually out there? “oh man a child dies, sooooo sad, why does God let that happen?!” .. so i guess according to you, human emotions is what this is all about? again, if you understand the concept of GREATER dimensions, a world to come, perhaps you would be able to wrap your mind around the fact that death is truly not a sad thing. there’s nothing wrong with death, outside of the limited capacity within human emotions, which mean NOTHING in the grand scheme of things. your book smarts make you seem intelligent on the outside looking in, but this argument was anything but….
i’m not sure about christianity.. it’s mostly just a whitewashed remix of judaism as far as i know, but what i can speak of is our own scripture. those people in india are not doomed. even gentiles can make it to the world to come, as long as they follow the basics (don’t kill, don’t steal, etc.. basically just being a good human) .. now is there levels to the world to come? of course. like anything else in life, the more u sacrifice, the higher level u reach.
i don’t think God is unjust in any way. i just think you feel like you are the greatest thing walking this earth, so you know best. what you know is definitive! right? submission to the creator is very important. so yea, someone like u is totally fucked if u continue on this path of “i’m the answer!”..
it seems to me like you’re far more familiar with christianity, which is what you’ve based most your posts around… yes, christianity is full of contradictions and confusion. look into judaism.. but don’t go into it relentlessly seeking error. go in with an open mind and see what u can fine. you wont regret it.
How is Christianity white washed when it says through out the bible that Jews are black and Jesus being the king of the Jews has hair like wool, feet like brass and a Jew, the apostle paul was mistaken for an Egyptian in Acts 21:38? Make it make sense. I find it funny because you are the one who broke his neck explaining how Jews aren't a black African people.
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jesus is literally a prophet in islam
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Creator of the heavens and the earth from nothingness, how could He have a son when He has no mate? He created all things, and has knowledge of all things.
https://quran.wwpa.com/page/verse-6-101
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1 John 2:22 - Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
Islam is anti-christ just like Judaism.
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How is Christianity white washed when it says through out the bible that Jews are black and Jesus being the king of the Jews has hair like wool, feet like brass and a Jew, the apostle paul was mistaken for an Egyptian in Acts 21:38? Make it make sense. I find it funny because you are the one who broke his neck explaining how Jews aren't a black African people.
never once does it say jesus was black lmao we went over this already
this is the color of “burnished bronze”:
(https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-kjgue/images/stencil/650x650/products/1595787/2109291/11227-693__52558.1556736230.jpg?c=2)
and here is a middle eastern israeli:
(https://i.ibb.co/Mhfdy4N/D2-F3-E5-CE-C299-498-A-A974-075-A72-FB16-FE.jpg)
the new testament was written in greek.. you know that right? has nothing to do with the original scriptures.
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Creator of the heavens and the earth from nothingness, how could He have a son when He has no mate? He created all things, and has knowledge of all things.
https://quran.wwpa.com/page/verse-6-101
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1 John 2:22 - Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
Islam is anti-christ just like Judaism.
are u a christian?
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never once does it say jesus was black lmao we went over this already
this is the color of “burnished bronze”:
(https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-kjgue/images/stencil/650x650/products/1595787/2109291/11227-693__52558.1556736230.jpg?c=2)
and here is a middle eastern israeli:
(https://i.ibb.co/Mhfdy4N/D2-F3-E5-CE-C299-498-A-A974-075-A72-FB16-FE.jpg)
the new testament was written in greek.. you know that right? has nothing to do with the original scriptures.
Never said you said it.
Let's take the images you posted at face value. I could post some dark brass but I won't Doesn't that show that your white washed comment is false? How does posting two non white things prove that something has been made white? You're not making any sense here.
You posted a pic of someone from today. That's number one. Number two, we've already went over the hair like wool thing. Those people don't have have hair like wool. You keep trying to side step that.
the Greek thing means nothing to me, that's your religious thing.
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are u a christian?
Yes.
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Never said you said it.
Let's take the images you posted at face value. I could post some dark brass but I won't Doesn't that show that your white washed comment is false? How does posting two non white things prove that something has been made white? You're not making any sense here.
You posted a pic of someone from today. That's number one. Number two, we've already went over the hair like wool thing. Those people don't have have hair like wool. You keep trying to side step that.
the Greek thing means nothing to me, that's your religious thing.
first of all, burnished brass is not dark.. even tho jesus was middle-eastern, his teachings were hi-jacked by greek and romans and turned into todays christian scripture by them .. that is what white-washed means.
nobody is sidestepping hair like wool. you never heard of a jew fro? do you seriously not know what happens to hair when it’s not washed?
(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/69/8e/76/698e76528b8aa0b95679e4aa194a37d4--man-crush-hippies.jpg)
this ain’t rocket science bruh
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here’s the answer to your very strange questions “what is energy” “what is a dimension” ….
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2095754818300358
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/our-continued-existence-means-other-dimensions-are-probably-super-tiny-180970487/
you probably won’t read that or might even come back
with a smart ass reply, but there u go..if you’re seriously curious and not just putting on an act, you can start by reading those.
i know your type bruh.. you overload your mind with useless information, thinking it makes you smart. in reality, our brains are like drawers. you can stuff them full of different items, but it’s better to keep only what’s truly needed because there’s only a certain amount it can hold. you can either break things down to it’s simplest form (what truly intelligent people do), or you can try your hardest to sound like some pretentious intellect by overcomplexifying simple concepts in order to come off as superior.
judaism is literally responsible for modern science, but u don’t know that because u probably grew up in a church where your priest molested young children, so now you hate religion with a passion and dedicate your life to debunking it.
https://momentmag.com/jewish-thought-influenced-science/
if you aren’t willing to read the material i provide, u can kick rocks n keep reading your science bible, because there’s no helping some1 like u.
You and your pathetic insult hurling ::) Please don't pretend to know me because you and I both know you haven't the faintest idea who you're speaking to online. Knock it off and stop acting like an insecure prepubescent teenager.
Addressing your first submission of TCM as a definition for energy is the reason you and I have a completely different understanding of the term. Your ideas about this are rooted in mysticism and are not used in various physical and engineering branches. Data supporting the effectiveness of most traditional remedies like TCM are scant, at best. I refer you to a 2009 study conducted by the University of Maryland that looked at 70 review papers evaluating TCM. None of the studies proved conclusive because the data were either too paltry or did not meet testing standards: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19757977/. Part of being a scientist is understanding the difference between legitimate experiments and junk science (and there's plenty of it to be frank). How to properly read and analyze papers is a learned skill. Giving credence to treatments like TCM that have not undergone extensive clinical testing of safety and efficacy doesn't give TCM or its derivatives any credibility.
In case you're unaware (which it appears you certainly are), China has been pushing for wider global acceptance of traditional medicines, which brings in some $50 billion in annual revenue for their economy. Traditional medicines are unregulated, and they frequently make people sick rather than curing them. One particularly troublesome ingredient, aristolochic acid, is commonly used in traditional remedies and has been linked to fatal kidney damage and cancers of the urinary tract. I point you to two studies. One from the British Journal of Clinical Pharmacology in 2017 that tested 487 Chinese products taken by sick patients and discovered 1,234 hidden ingredients, including approved and banned Western drugs, drug analogues and animal thyroid tissue: https://bpspubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/bcp.13420. The second in 2012 by Murdoch University of Australia identified the DNA sequences in 15 samples of traditional medicines in the form of powders, tablets, capsules, bile flakes and herbal teas. The samples also contained plants that produce toxic chemicals and animal DNA from vulnerable or endangered species (the Asiatic black bear and saiga antelope, for example) and other creatures protected by international laws: https://www.sciencecodex.com/deep_sequencing_of_15_samples_of_traditional_chinese_medicines-89637.
In actual physics, energy is defined as the potential to do work or produce heat. Energy is measured in SI units called joules (named after James Prescott Joule). To do 1 kilojoule of work, you must expend 1 kilojoule of energy. This is the formula: 1 J = 1 kg.m2/s2. Some forms of energy are potential [related to an object’s position in a force field (gravitational, electric or magnetic)], mechanical, and kinetic (related to the velocity of a moving object). Other forms include electrical, magnetic, ionized, radiant, chemical, and nuclear energy. In thermodynamics the concept of energy is broadened to account for other observed changes. Thermodynamics deals with another type of energy called “thermal energy” or “internal energy”. The only ways the energy of a closed system can be changed are through transfer of energy by work or by heat. Further, based on the experiments of Joule and others, a fundamental aspect of the energy concept is that energy is conserved. Energy cannot be created or destroyed. This principle is known as the first law of thermodynamics and captured in the following formula: ∆Eint = Q – W where Eint represents the internal energy of the material, which depends only on the material’s state (temperature, pressure, and volume). Q is the net heat added to the system and W is the net work done by the system. See if you can find ways to play with the formula to produce your own results. In general, energy is a fundamental concept of thermodynamics and one of the most significant aspects of engineering analysis. This just scratches the surface. We haven't even gotten to Einstein's mass-energy equivalence. Are you starting to see the difference? This is what an explanation looks like - not some ripped off Chinese medicine thought experiment "medical theory" article talking about energy without any experiments or math in it.
To your self-aggrandizing bit about Jews being "literally responsible for modern science", the first sentence of that article you posted says: "Firstly, we shouldn’t exaggerate. Jews were not the first scientists; that distinction goes to Greece and the Pre-Christian century." But I'm you'll try and cite the second sentence claiming that Jews instead created "western rationality", which "led to modern science." Aside from this article being an opinion piece, there's another inherent conflict of interest: it's written by a theologian. Try finding sources authored by actual historians like Ofer Gal who don't have skin in the game. Copernicus was the father of the scientific revolution who executed his work in the name of astronomy - not philosophy like his predecessors - and first placed the Sun, not the Earth, at the center of the cosmos. He was followed by other luminaries like Tycho, Kepler, Galileo and my main man Newton. This is common knowledge. Seems like if it's not Jewish, you don't read it. This might be breaking news, but Judaism does not hold all the medals for every human achievement. There are terms for this kind of thinking: confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance.
Finally, your Smithsonian article: this is the only accurate piece of literature you managed to find. But do you understand string theory and how it works? Because even the article admits that it is difficult to "explain the mathematics behind string theory without putting on a graduate seminar or two" and I'm sure you've never attended one. To this point, please understand that string theory is in the branch of theoretical physics. Do you know what that means? Do you know what other branches of physics exist and what they study? What's your background on topics like quarks, flip angles, and other sub-atomic phenomena in areas like quantum mechanics? You couldn't possibly use any of the information in the article to try and prove the existence of a deity. If you think you can, please do write out your dissertation. If it had a shred of truth to it, your face would be on every magazine cover in the world and you'd be the recipient of every prestigious award in mathematics and physics. Good luck.
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first of all, burnished brass is not dark.. even tho jesus was middle-eastern, his teachings were hi-jacked by greek and romans and turned into todays christian scripture by them .. that is what white-washed means.
nobody is sidestepping hair like wool. you never heard of a jew fro? do you seriously not know what happens to hair when it’s not washed?
(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/69/8e/76/698e76528b8aa0b95679e4aa194a37d4--man-crush-hippies.jpg)
this ain’t rocket science bruh
It doesn't say burnished it says burnt.
Revelation 1:15
“And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.”
King James Version (KJV)
I don't see hair like wool in that pic.
I agree his teachings were hijacked by Romans which is why the Roman Catholic institute has its own Bibles. I fail to see what that has to do with the scriptures I'm using though. You keep speaking on thing you know absolutely nothing about and then want to evangelize about arrogance.
Let's look at your middle east claim. I can do the same thing.
"By the mid-20th century a common definition of the Middle East encompassed the states or territories of Turkey, Cyprus, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran, Israel, the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, Jordan, Egypt, Sudan, Libya, and the various states and territories of Arabia proper (Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Yemen, Oman, Bahrain, Qatar, and the Trucial States, or Trucial Oman [now United Arab Emirates]). "
Source: https://www.britannica.com/place/Middle-East
Notice it says the Sudan. Here is a woman from the Sudan aka the middle east with hair white like wool.
(https://www.helpage.org/silo/images/nyadeng-south-sudan-page_653x433.jpg)
Revelation 1:14
“His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;”
King James Version (KJV)
Job, a Jew, said he was Black why didn't they remove that from scripture if it was white washed. I'll wait. If Job who was a Jew was Black, wouldn't it make sense that Jesus the king of the Jews was Black?
Job 30:30
King James Version
30 My skin is black upon me, and my bones are burned with heat.
Luke 23:37-38
King James Version
37 And saying, If thou be the king of the Jews, save thyself.
38 And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew, This Is The King Of The Jews.
Sounds like the religion of the Jews is what has been whitewashed into Judaism.
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You and your pathetic insult hurling ::) Please don't pretend to know me because you and I both know you haven't the faintest idea who you're speaking to online. Knock it off and stop acting like an insecure prepubescent teenager.
Addressing your first submission of TCM as a definition for energy is the reason you and I have a completely different understanding of the term. Your ideas about this are rooted in mysticism and are not used in various physical and engineering branches. Data supporting the effectiveness of most traditional remedies like TCM are scant, at best. I refer you to a 2009 study conducted by the University of Maryland that looked at 70 review papers evaluating TCM. None of the studies proved conclusive because the data were either too paltry or did not meet testing standards: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19757977/. Part of being a scientist is understanding the difference between legitimate experiments and junk science (and there's plenty of it to be frank). How to properly read and analyze papers is a learned skill. Giving credence to treatments like TCM that have not undergone extensive clinical testing of safety and efficacy doesn't give TCM or its derivatives any credibility.
In case you're unaware (which it appears you certainly are), China has been pushing for wider global acceptance of traditional medicines, which brings in some $50 billion in annual revenue for their economy. Traditional medicines are unregulated, and they frequently make people sick rather than curing them. One particularly troublesome ingredient, aristolochic acid, is commonly used in traditional remedies and has been linked to fatal kidney damage and cancers of the urinary tract. I point you to two studies. One from the British Journal of Clinical Pharmacology in 2017 that tested 487 Chinese products taken by sick patients and discovered 1,234 hidden ingredients, including approved and banned Western drugs, drug analogues and animal thyroid tissue: https://bpspubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/bcp.13420. The second in 2012 by Murdoch University of Australia identified the DNA sequences in 15 samples of traditional medicines in the form of powders, tablets, capsules, bile flakes and herbal teas. The samples also contained plants that produce toxic chemicals and animal DNA from vulnerable or endangered species (the Asiatic black bear and saiga antelope, for example) and other creatures protected by international laws: https://www.sciencecodex.com/deep_sequencing_of_15_samples_of_traditional_chinese_medicines-89637.
In actual physics, energy is defined as the potential to do work or produce heat. Energy is measured in SI units called joules (named after James Prescott Joule). To do 1 kilojoule of work, you must expend 1 kilojoule of energy. This is the formula: 1 J = 1 kg.m2/s2. Some forms of energy are potential [related to an object’s position in a force field (gravitational, electric or magnetic)], mechanical, and kinetic (related to the velocity of a moving object). Other forms include electrical, magnetic, ionized, radiant, chemical, and nuclear energy. In thermodynamics the concept of energy is broadened to account for other observed changes. Thermodynamics deals with another type of energy called “thermal energy” or “internal energy”. The only ways the energy of a closed system can be changed are through transfer of energy by work or by heat. Further, based on the experiments of Joule and others, a fundamental aspect of the energy concept is that energy is conserved. Energy cannot be created or destroyed. This principle is known as the first law of thermodynamics and captured in the following formula: ∆Eint = Q – W where Eint represents the internal energy of the material, which depends only on the material’s state (temperature, pressure, and volume). Q is the net heat added to the system and W is the net work done by the system. See if you can find ways to play with the formula to produce your own results. In general, energy is a fundamental concept of thermodynamics and one of the most significant aspects of engineering analysis. This just scratches the surface. We haven't even gotten to Einstein's mass-energy equivalence. Are you starting to see the difference? This is what an explanation looks like - not some ripped off Chinese medicine thought experiment "medical theory" article talking about energy without any experiments or math in it.
To your self-aggrandizing bit about Jews being "literally responsible for modern science", the first sentence of that article you posted says: "Firstly, we shouldn’t exaggerate. Jews were not the first scientists; that distinction goes to Greece and the Pre-Christian century." But I'm you'll try and cite the second sentence claiming that Jews instead created "western rationality", which "led to modern science." Aside from this article being an opinion piece, there's another inherent conflict of interest: it's written by a theologian. Try finding sources authored by actual historians like Ofer Gal who don't have skin in the game. Copernicus was the father of the scientific revolution who executed his work in the name of astronomy - not philosophy like his predecessors - and first placed the Sun, not the Earth, at the center of the cosmos. He was followed by other luminaries like Tycho, Kepler, Galileo and my main man Newton. This is common knowledge. Seems like if it's not Jewish, you don't read it. This might be breaking news, but Judaism does not hold all the medals for every human achievement. There are terms for this kind of thinking: confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance.
Finally, your Smithsonian article: this is the only accurate piece of literature you managed to find. But do you understand string theory and how it works? Because even the article admits that it is difficult to "explain the mathematics behind string theory without putting on a graduate seminar or two" and I'm sure you've never attended one. To this point, please understand that string theory is in the branch of theoretical physics. Do you know what that means? Do you know what other branches of physics exist and what they study? What's your background on topics like quarks, flip angles, and other sub-atomic phenomena in areas like quantum mechanics? You couldn't possibly use any of the information in the article to try and prove the existence of a deity. If you think you can, please do write out your dissertation. If it had a shred of truth to it, your face would be on every magazine cover in the world and you'd be the recipient of every prestigious award in mathematics and physics. Good luck.
insults? with all due respect, if ever i insulted you, it’s only in return .. after all, scripture very clearly states an eye for an eye ;)
mysticism is awesome.. you should try checkin out the zohar. incredible stuff that explains science way before modern science caught up.
anyways, i skimmed through your post.. you’re not very efficient in explaining things in their simplest form, which like i said, displays one of the highest levels of intelligence.. and right now shabbat is about to kick in, so gota get off the phone. if you want to check the books i recommended and prove them wrong, im all ears. peace out homie.
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It doesn't say burnished it says burnt.
Revelation 1:15
“And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.”
King James Version (KJV)
I don't see hair like wool in that pic.
I agree his teachings were hijacked by Romans which is why the Roman Catholic institute has its own Bibles. I fail to see what that has to do with the scriptures I'm using though. You keep speaking on thing you know absolutely nothing about and then want to evangelize about arrogance.
Let's look at your middle east claim. I can do the same thing.
"By the mid-20th century a common definition of the Middle East encompassed the states or territories of Turkey, Cyprus, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran, Israel, the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, Jordan, Egypt, Sudan, Libya, and the various states and territories of Arabia proper (Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Yemen, Oman, Bahrain, Qatar, and the Trucial States, or Trucial Oman [now United Arab Emirates]). "
Source: https://www.britannica.com/place/Middle-East
Notice it says the Sudan. Here is a woman from the Sudan aka the middle east with hair white like wool.
(https://www.helpage.org/silo/images/nyadeng-south-sudan-page_653x433.jpg)
Revelation 1:14
“His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;”
King James Version (KJV)
Job, a Jew, said he was Black why didn't they remove that from scripture if it was white washed. I'll wait. If Job who was a Jew was Black, wouldn't it make sense that Jesus the king of the Jews was Black?
Job 30:30
King James Version
30 My skin is black upon me, and my bones are burned with heat.
Luke 23:37-38
King James Version
37 And saying, If thou be the king of the Jews, save thyself.
38 And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew, This Is The King Of The Jews.
Sounds like the religion of the Jews is what has been whitewashed into Judaism.
we already went over this .. you do not speak hebrew, so you are using wrong interpretations. it’s “darkened upon me” .. it is “burnished”. go refer back to our debate in tot, i broke it all down in there.
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we already went over this .. you do not speak hebrew, so you are using wrong interpretations. it’s “darkened upon me” .. it is “burnished”. go refer back to our debate in tot, i broke it all down in there.
But the new testament was written in Greek though. How are you going to tell me it's burnished? lol You lost this one too just like you lost on your antichrist reply. Worry about that other guy's post. Just stop speaking on stuff you've never studied. God forbid you actually do study instead.
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Stop mentioning me.
I’ll mention you to your mama
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insults? with all due respect, if ever i insulted you, it’s only in return .. after all, scripture very clearly states an eye for an eye ;)
mysticism is awesome.. you should try checkin out the zohar. incredible stuff that explains science way before modern science caught up.
anyways, i skimmed through your post.. you’re not very efficient in explaining things in their simplest form, which like i said, displays one of the highest levels of intelligence.. and right now shabbat is about to kick in, so gota get off the phone. if you want to check the books i recommended and prove them wrong, im all ears. peace out homie.
This is a very poor, lazy, lackluster and disappointing reply to what I have previously submitted. It's clear you're not serious and are uninterested in having any sort of technical debate that requires in-depth knowledge about topics like the ones put fourth - despite the fact that you demanded I read your articles while you "skim" my reply. This is primarily because it's not your area of expertise, which puts you at a disadvantage and probably why you're having trouble understanding basic concepts of energy, dimensions, etc. taken from physics 101 - all of which are pretty straight forward for anyone with a grade school level understanding. If it sounds like I'm spelling this out, it's because I am (with no effect). Perhaps you'll take the time to read my previous reply a little more carefully.
The truth is, science is hard. It's why many people are discouraged from entering the field. In the physics community - of which you are not a part and couldn't be further from - there is saying: "if you understand physics, you don't get it." It's a play on words. See if you can try and solve the riddle. Mathematics is the language of physics. Try communicating without language and see how far you get. Each formula - including the one I provided from thermodynamics - requires a proof. Entire careers over centuries were spent deriving proofs for formulas we easily take for granted today. Efficiency at the expense of clarity gets us nowhere. The ability to explain highly technical ideas is important to ensure everyone understands what words mean and ultimately, it ensures things actually work - like your internet connection and your phone and everything else modern science has been able to enhance your life with. But this is not your area nor is it what you do for a living. So criticizing it really doesn't mean much from someone who is both scientifically illiterate and will never make a single contribution to the field in a lifetime.
Needless to say, you have successfully taken the piss out of this. It was a nice and brief exercise for me - but it's not fun anymore. So I'll just leave it there.
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This is a very poor, lazy, lackluster and disappointing reply to what I have previously submitted. It's clear you're not serious and are uninterested in having any sort of technical debate that requires in-depth knowledge about topics like the ones put fourth - despite the fact that you demanded I read your articles while you "skim" my reply. This is primarily because it's not your area of expertise, which puts you at a disadvantage and probably why you're having trouble understanding basic concepts of energy, dimensions, etc. taken from physics 101 - all of which are pretty straight forward for anyone with a grade school level understanding. If it sounds like I'm spelling this out, it's because I am (with no effect). Perhaps you'll take the time to read my previous reply a little more carefully.
The truth is, science is hard. It's why many people are discouraged from entering the field. In the physics community - of which you are not a part and couldn't be further from - there is saying: "if you understand physics, you don't get it." It's a play on words. See if you can try and solve the riddle. Mathematics is the language of physics. Try communicating without language and see how far you get. Each formula - including the one I provided from thermodynamics - requires a proof. Entire careers over centuries were spent deriving proofs for formulas we easily take for granted today. Efficiency at the expense of clarity gets us nowhere. The ability to explain highly technical ideas is important to ensure everyone understands what words mean and ultimately, it ensures things actually work - like your internet connection and your phone and everything else modern science has been able to enhance your life with. But this is not your area nor is it what you do for a living. So criticizing it really doesn't mean much from someone who is both scientifically illiterate and will never make a single contribution to the field in a lifetime.
Needless to say, you have successfully taken the piss out of this. It was a nice and brief exercise for me - but it's not fun anymore. So I'll just leave it there.
i know you have no familiarity with spiritual matters, but i literally explained in my post that it was about to be shabbat .. and for those in the know, that means we are not permitted to use our phone.. instead of taking offense to that, try UNDERSTANDING first.
back to the topic at hand, in the words of my great ancestor, the rambam:
If a person studies too much and exhausts his reflective powers, he will be confused, and will not be able to apprehend even that which had been within the power of his apprehension. For the powers of the body are all alike in this respect.
While one man can discover a certain thing by himself, another is never able to understand it, even if taught by means of all possible expressions and metaphors, and during a long period; his mind can in no way grasp it, his capacity is insufficient for it.
in other words, you are so caught up on the technical aspect of existence that your soul has zero capacity for anything beyond what can be explained with physics. only slightly better than being a robot. if you’re lacking in spiritual matters, that is something you will need to discover on your own, because no amount of studying will get you there.
there is no doubt that some good has come from reliance on “experts,” but most of the benefits have been on a physical level- and many of these have engendered new sets of problems. spiritually, humanity’s lot has dwindled over time. though you may downplay that shortcoming, this is a serious lapse of judgement. werner heisenberg demonstrated that we must take all aspects of reality into account in order to grasp the totality of any object or event-yet we can never know all the aspects. that means we are in the dark, no matter how brightly lit the world might seem to be. if we have the courage to face facts, we must say goodbye to science as a security blanket, just as we earlier said goodbye to witch doctors and conjurers. we must relinquish hope of finding the cause of chaos in the world through observational means, and we must certainly abandon the idea of eradicating chaos with the same severely limited modalities.
this being the case, we must simply develop our spiritual potential in order to escape the chaos of a purely empirical relationship with the universe. the ultimate truth is that power derived from concealment and that merit on the spiritual plane is linked to anonymity in the physical world.
i’m sure this will go over your head, if you didn’t already tap out (for the second time), but i genuinely hope this message finds you in some way. if not you, hopefully someone else who is questioning may read this and comprehend the message. but the more you think you know, the less you actually do.
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But the new testament was written in Greek though. How are you going to tell me it's burnished? lol You lost this one too just like you lost on your antichrist reply. Worry about that other guy's post. Just stop speaking on stuff you've never studied. God forbid you actually do study instead.
there’s no need to read a scripture that totally contradicts a scripture it considers divine in order to understand it lacks divinity. God says not to eat pork.. all of a sudden we can in the new testament. come on now. there are so many holes in that book i can point out that makes its lack of divinity clear, but i’m not even tryna go there.
so whether it says burnished or burnt is irrelevant (even tho both colors are clearly the color of middle easterns, as black people are more brown than bronze) ..
that said, i was clearly speaking on the divine book of job when addressing the fact that you should use the hebrew wording.
i’ll say it again, since it lost you the first time. the word used in scripture is שָׁחַ֣ר .. that means DARKENED, not BLACK lol .. i know this because i speak hebrew. the word for black is שָׁחוֹר (same root, different word), which is why some cacs trying their best to interpret hebrew got confused. this is basic stuff.
i’ve spent a good portion of my life studying divine scripture, so i wouldn’t recommend you doubt me there if you wana have an honest debate.
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there’s no need to read a scripture that totally contradicts a scripture it considers divine in order to understand it lacks divinity. God says not to eat pork.. all of a sudden we can in the new testament. come on now. there are so many holes in that book i can point out that makes its lack of divinity clear, but i’m not even tryna go there.
The fact that I have refuted your middle eastern argument, yet to went back to it, is the reason you're living a lie today. I'll get back to that later.
so whether it says burnished or burnt is irrelevant (even tho both colors are clearly the color of middle easterns, as black people are more brown than bronze) ..
that said, i was clearly speaking on the divine book of job when addressing the fact that you should use the hebrew wording.
i’ll say it again, since it lost you the first time. the word used in scripture is שָׁחַ֣ר .. that means DARKENED, not BLACK lol .. i know this because i speak hebrew. the word for black is שָׁחוֹר (same root, different word), which is why some cacs trying their best to interpret hebrew got confused. this is basic stuff.
i’ve spent a good portion of my life studying divine scripture, so i wouldn’t recommend you doubt me there if you wana have an honest debate.
Eating pork was the law for the Jews. Under the new testament covenant for all mankind, that doesn't apply. It's just that simple. It's not my fault you reject the Messiah and his teachings because you were raised to. When was thy last burnt offering btw or stoning?
The scriptures also condemns Sodom but just yesterday you said the scriptures allows it. When did that change? It doesn't sound like you know the scriptures as you claim to. I think you have a "I'm Jewish, god's chosen people, so I'm right" attitude.
Black people come in various shades but the hair like wool is what distinguishes them from gentiles. Jews and Gentiles, not race. So even if I concede on the skin color, he would still fall under the same "black" umbrella. Just as a red bone (ruddy as king David), yellow bone or albino would. Those little twist and curls you guys do with your hair isn't the same as Sampson's locs either. Please don't start that again. On one hand you say there are black Jewish people (you've said this in the past) and on the other you fight tooth and nail to say they aren't.
I have already went over the Hebrew thing before. You speaking Hebrew doesn't change anything. The translators of the KJV knew it as well. You have to alter the meaning of the text or else it becomes obvious that your religion stole another people's identity. Your mind would unravel to find out that you aren't a Jew after all and that your entire life is a lie.
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Eating pork was the law for the Jews. Under the new testament covenant for all mankind, that doesn't apply. It's just that simple. It's not my fault you reject the Messiah and his teachings because you were raised to. When was thy last burnt offering btw or stoning?
The scriptures also condemns Sodom but just yesterday you said the scriptures allows it. When did that change? It doesn't sound like you know the scriptures as you claim to. I think you have a "I'm Jewish, god's chosen people, so I'm right" attitude.
Black people come in various shades but the hair like wool is what distinguishes them from gentiles. Jews and Gentiles, not race. So even if I concede on the skin color, he would still fall under the same "black" umbrella. Just as a red bone (ruddy as king David), yellow bone or albino would. Those little twist and curls you guys do with your hair isn't the same as Sampson's locs either. Please don't start that again. On one hand you say there are black Jewish people (you've said this in the past) and on the other you fight tooth and nail to say they aren't.
I have already went over the Hebrew thing before. You speaking Hebrew doesn't change anything. The translators of the KJV knew it as well. You have to alter the meaning of the text or else it becomes obvious that your religion stole another people's identity. Your mind would unravel to find out that you aren't a Jew after all and that your entire life is a lie.
show me where any form of sex with a woman is regarded as “sodom” in OT .. you cant. God’s law doesn’t change, it is definitive. it changed “just because” isn’t a good answer. i don’t have any attitude, your very scripture speaks of jews as the chosen people, so don’t put that on me .. what does it take to be part of the chosen people? all you have to do is sacrifice your life to God, follow his laws, and give ALL the credit to him.. that means that giving praise which belongs to him to a mere mortal is considered idol worship. you are an idolater and you don’t even know it.
again, how am i changing the meaning of anything … i literally just showed you the hebrew word for darkened followed by the hebrew word for black. nothing here has been altered.. facts only. you taking the word of those who interpreted the original scriptures for the blasphemous kjv translations is no better than the general public who takes the word of the cdc and double mask when driving alone in their car with the windows down because of it. i am the source for hebrew here, not the devious cacs u look up to.
i never said there are no black jewish people .. race is a made up social construct. it wasn’t documented or relevant in the biblical era, so it wasn’t noted. but it’s clear that the originals were the mizrahi jews. the natives of that land. black people are native to africa, not the middle east. we have been holders of the torah from day 1.. and the fact that ashkenazi jews were also holding the torah in a whole nother continent, while having the same exact laws in tact shows that there has been zero alterations. i don’t know why you want jews to be black so badly. you aren’t even black. usually it’s only black people who lost their african roots that make this claim in order to feel a level of importance in relation to scripture. you are literally echoing the sentiments of the biggest culture vultures in history- the black hebrew israelites. a racist cult of pedophile weirdos who dress like power rangers and shout at people on street corners, not a religion.
btw peyot (the curls you speak of) are not the only curls jews have lmao.. do yourself a favor and look up jew fro. a very common hairstyle in the ethnic jewish division.
that said, i’ll leave you with this in hopes that you eventually find the truth and denounce the blasphemy you have been following:
https://youtu.be/Jj01wyW01hQ
no amount of copping please will fill in these clear cut holes my dude.
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I’m blaming Game for this thread
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show me where any form of sex with a woman is regarded as “sodom” in OT .. you cant. God’s law doesn’t change, it is definitive. it changed “just because” isn’t a good answer. i don’t have any attitude, your very scripture speaks of jews as the chosen people, so don’t put that on me .. what does it take to be part of the chosen people? all you have to do is sacrifice your life to God, follow his laws, and give ALL the credit to him.. that means that giving praise which belongs to him to a mere mortal is considered idol worship. you are an idolater and you don’t even know it.
again, how am i changing the meaning of anything … i literally just showed you the hebrew word for darkened followed by the hebrew word for black. nothing here has been altered.. facts only. you taking the word of those who interpreted the original scriptures for the blasphemous kjv translations is no better than the general public who takes the word of the cdc and double mask when driving alone in their car with the windows down because of it. i am the source for hebrew here, not the devious cacs u look up to.
i never said there are no black jewish people .. race is a made up social construct. it wasn’t documented or relevant in the biblical era, so it wasn’t noted. but it’s clear that the originals were the mizrahi jews. the natives of that land. black people are native to africa, not the middle east. we have been holders of the torah from day 1.. and the fact that ashkenazi jews were also holding the torah in a whole nother continent, while having the same exact laws in tact shows that there has been zero alterations. i don’t know why you want jews to be black so badly. you aren’t even black. usually it’s only black people who lost their african roots that make this claim in order to feel a level of importance in relation to scripture. you are literally echoing the sentiments of the biggest culture vultures in history- the black hebrew israelites. a racist cult of pedophile weirdos who dress like power rangers and shout at people on street corners, not a religion.
btw peyot (the curls you speak of) are not the only curls jews have lmao.. do yourself a favor and look up jew fro. a very common hairstyle in the ethnic jewish division.
that said, i’ll leave you with this in hopes that you eventually find the truth and denounce the blasphemy you have been following:
https://youtu.be/Jj01wyW01hQ
no amount of copping please will fill in these clear cut holes my dude.
You do know that the health info I posted concerning Sodomy still applies to male/ female interaction right? You think the scriptures condone that because it's done between a man and woman? Cool story bro!
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As concerning the law
Matthew 5:17-20
King James Version
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
So now you just have to sacrifice your life. What about the traditions of Moses? You just gon throw that out the window? You are doing the same thing you're accusing me of.
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You're not a Jew though bro. Your Jewish religion just teaches that you are. I asked you to prove it and you said "it's common sense". I translated that into English meaning mommy and daddy raised me that way, so it must be true.
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Jesus isn't a mere mortal. lol Jesus is God in the flesh.
John 1
King James Version
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
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Remember this from the OT:
Daniel 3:25
“He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.”
King James Version (KJV)
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How are you trying to use my arguments against me? I'm the one who taught you that about race. I also taught you that olives come in many different colors including black when you said Jews were olive colored. Then you said red. I'm arguing the black part because that's what the scriptures say. No other reason. You have the motive I don't you're. If you understood the scriptures in it's full context (not just a select few books you choose to believe) then you would know that being God's chosen people isn't a badge of honor to begin with.
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Genesis 2
10 And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.
11 The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;
12 And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.
13 And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia.
14 And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.
Is this area Africa or the middle east?
You've mentioned the Jew fro thing several times. Please give it a rest.
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Safe+Sound, I'm coming for you next.
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You do know that the health info I posted concerning Sodomy still applies to male/ female interaction right? You think the scriptures condone that because it's done between a man and woman? Cool story bro!
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As concerning the law
Matthew 5:17-20
King James Version
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
So now you just have to sacrifice your life. What about the traditions of Moses? You just gon throw that out the window? You are doing the same thing you're accusing me of.
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You're not a Jew though bro. Your Jewish religion just teaches that you are. I asked you to prove it and you said "it's common sense". I translated that into English meaning mommy and daddy raised me that way, so it must be true.
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Jesus isn't a mere mortal. lol Jesus is God in the flesh.
John 1
King James Version
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
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Remember this from the OT:
Daniel 3:25
“He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.”
King James Version (KJV)
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How are you trying to use my arguments against me? I'm the one who taught you that about race. I also taught you that olives come in many different colors including black when you said Jews were olive colored. Then you said red. I'm arguing the black part because that's what the scriptures say. No other reason. You have the motive I don't you're. If you understood the scriptures in it's full context (not just a select few books you choose to believe) then you would know that being God's chosen people isn't a badge of honor to begin with.
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Genesis 2
10 And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.
11 The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;
12 And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.
13 And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia.
14 And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.
Is this area Africa or the middle east?
You've mentioned the Jew fro thing several times. Please give it a rest.
i’m glad you’re confident in yourself, but i doubt you’ve ever taught a single thing to anyone on this forum homie.. race being a social construct is not something you came up with lmao. more importantly, i literally just shared a link that proved NT to lack divinity, yet you continue to quote it .. “God in the flesh” is the definition of blasphemous. You are an idol worshipper, plain and simple. not that i need to prove anything to you, but my ancestry dating back to the beginning of traceable lineage being from israel is all i really need here. and you are speaking to a member of the tribe of levi. one of the only traceable tribes. this is not that power ranger nonsense you watch on youtube that claims puerto ricans are ephraim, haitians are levi, argentinian are naphtali etc. lmfao .. my people have been keepers of the torah since the beginning of time, it’s not just something we found recently and tried to put claim in .. but tbh you’re a dude who doesn’t really deal well wit common sense. i’m a sucker for a good conspiracy, but you’re so far gone down the youtube rabbit hole that every conspiracy theory u come across speaks to u. no balance.
this isn’t about wearing a “badge of honor” …. this is about totally submitting yourself to the most high with all your heart. once you are able to fully do that, your life will change. sectors like the black hebrew israelites do not partake in that level of dedication. their entire motive in tying themselves to judaism is ego based, which negates everything they do. real black jews are cats like shyne or amare stoudemire. they went through a legit process and adhere to the laws set forth. the laws that can NEVER be altered, despite what your remix book told you.
so you don’t believe in getting blowjobs from women? that is sodomy to you? terrible. this is what happens when you let cacs lead the way .. again, original scriptures does not forsake ANY sexual act between man and woman. your nonsense piece about the health risks is laughable.. here is a health piece that says the exact opposite:
https://www.healthline.com/health/healthy-sex/benefits-of-anal-sex
when you finally get a wife, she might want to suck your dick .. if you tell her no, she WILL seek a man like me. believe that.
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I'm still waiting for evidence of your white washed comment.
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I'm still waiting for evidence of your white washed comment.
its written in greek and was popularized by romans
what more do u need?
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the God in all Abrahamic religions is the same God.
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its written in greek and was popularized by romans
what more do u need?
Preface to the King James Bible 1611
THE TRANSLATORS TO THE READER
THE TRANSLATION OF THE OLD TESTAMENT
OUT OF THE OLD TESTAMENT
OUT OF THE HEBREW INTO GREEK
While God would be known only in Jacob, and have his Name great in Israel, and in none other place, while the dew lay on Gideon's fleece only, and all the earth besides was dry; then for one and the same people, which spake all of them the language of Canaan, that is, Hebrew, one and the same original in Hebrew was sufficient. [S. August. lib 12 contra Faust c32] But, when the fulness of time drew near, that the Sun of righteousness, the Son of God should come into the world, whom God ordained to be a reconciliation through faith in his blood, not of the Jew only, but also of the Greek, yea, of all them that were scattered abroad; then lo, it pleased the Lord to stir up the spirit of a Greek Prince (Greek for descent and language) even of Ptolemy Philadelph King of Egypt, to procure the translating of the Book of God out of Hebrew into Greek. This is the translation of the Seventy Interpreters, commonly so called, which prepared the way for our Saviour among the Gentiles by written preaching, as Saint John Baptist did among the Jews by vocal. For the Grecians being desirous of learning, were not wont to suffer books of worth to lie moulding in Kings' libraries, but had many of their servants, ready scribes, to copy them out, and so they were dispersed and made common. Again, the Greek tongue was well known and made familiar to most inhabitants in Asia, by reason of the conquest that there the Grecians had made, as also by the Colonies, which thither they had sent. For the same causes also it was well understood in many places of Europe, yea, and of Africa too. Therefore the word of God being set forth in Greek, becometh hereby like a candle set upon a candlestick, which giveth light to all that are in the house, or like a proclamation sounded forth in the market place, which most men presently take knowledge of; and therefore that language was fittest to contain the Scriptures, both for the first Preachers of the Gospel to appeal unto for witness, and for the learners also of those times to make search and trial by. It is certain, that that Translation was not so sound and so perfect, but it needed in many places correction; and who had been so sufficient for this work as the Apostles or Apostolic men? Yet it seemed good to the holy Ghost and to them, to take that which they found, (the same being for the greatest part true and sufficient) rather than making a new, in that new world and green age of the Church, to expose themselves to many exceptions and cavillations, as though they made a Translations to serve their own turn, and therefore bearing a witness to themselves, their witness not to be regarded. This may be supposed to be some cause, why the Translation of the Seventy was allowed to pass for current. Notwithstanding, though it was commended generally, yet it did not fully content the learned, no not of the Jews. For not long after Christ, Aquila fell in hand with a new Translation, and after him Theodotion, and after him Symmachus; yea, there was a fifth and a sixth edition, the Authors whereof were not known. [Epiphan. de mensur. et ponderibus.] These with the Seventy made up the Hexapla and were worthily and to great purpose compiled together by Origen. Howbeit the Edition of the Seventy went away with the credit, and therefore not only was placed in the midst by Origen (for the worth and excellency thereof above the rest, as Epiphanius gathered) but also was used by the Greek fathers for the ground and foundation of their Commentaries. Yea, Epiphanius above named doeth attribute so much unto it, that he holdeth the Authors thereof not only for Interpreters, but also for Prophets in some respect [S. August. 2::de dectrin. Christian c. 15]; and Justinian the Emperor enjoining the Jews his subjects to use especially the Translation of the Seventy, rendreth this reason thereof, because they were as it were enlightened with prophetical grace. Yet for all that, as the Egyptians are said of the Prophet to be men and not God, and their horses flesh and not spirit [Isa 31:3]; so it is evident, (and Saint Jerome affirmeth as much) [S. Jerome. de optimo genere interpret.] that the Seventy were Interpreters, they were not Prophets; they did many things well, as learned men; but yet as men they stumbled and fell, one while through oversight, another while through ignorance, yea, sometimes they may be noted to add to the Original, and sometimes to take from it; which made the Apostles to leave them many times, when they left the Hebrew, and to deliver the sense thereof according to the truth of the word, as the spirit gave them utterance. This may suffice touching the Greek Translations of the Old Testament.
Source: https://blackletterkingjamesbible.com/Library/Preface
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From the text above.
"But, when the fulness of time drew near, that the Sun of righteousness, the Son of God should come into the world, whom God ordained to be a reconciliation through faith in his blood, not of the Jew only, but also of the Greek, yea, of all them that were scattered abroad; then lo, it pleased the Lord to stir up the spirit of a Greek Prince (Greek for descent and language) even of Ptolemy Philadelph King of Egypt, to procure the translating of the Book of God out of Hebrew into Greek. This is the translation of the Seventy Interpreters, commonly so called, which prepared the way for our Saviour among the Gentiles by written preaching, as Saint John Baptist did among the Jews by vocal."
Ptolemy II Philadelphus
Macedonian king of Egypt
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Born: 308 BCE Cos Greece
Died: 246 BCE
Title / Office: king (285BC-246BC), Egypt
Source: https://www.britannica.com/biography/Ptolemy-II-Philadelphus
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From the text above.
"But, when the fulness of time drew near, that the Sun of righteousness, the Son of God should come into the world, whom God ordained to be a reconciliation through faith in his blood, not of the Jew only, but also of the Greek, yea, of all them that were scattered abroad; then lo, it pleased the Lord to stir up the spirit of a Greek Prince (Greek for descent and language) even of Ptolemy Philadelph King of Egypt, to procure the translating of the Book of God out of Hebrew into Greek. This is the translation of the Seventy Interpreters, commonly so called, which prepared the way for our Saviour among the Gentiles by written preaching, as Saint John Baptist did among the Jews by vocal."
Ptolemy II Philadelphus
Macedonian king of Egypt
(https://cdn.britannica.com/65/171565-004-3A846AD4/Ptolemy-II-Philadelphus-granite-bust-Baltimore-Maryland-c-280-bce.jpg)
Born: 308 BCE Cos Greece
Died: 246 BCE
Title / Office: king (285BC-246BC), Egypt
Source: https://www.britannica.com/biography/Ptolemy-II-Philadelphus
lol
maybe we can get safe-n-sound take on this
oh wait he tucked his tail and ran off when this discussion started eating at his soul (which he doesn’t even believe he has) .. all under the guise of being “above” it
although you may be wrong on many fronts, i can respect you for not letting these back n forths press you to the point where u get in your feelings over it like a str8 sucka
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lol
maybe we can get safe-n-sound take on this
oh wait he tucked his tail and ran off when this discussion started eating at his soul (which he doesn’t even believe he has) .. all under the guise of being “above” it
although you may be wrong on many fronts, i can respect you for not letting these back n forths press you to the point where u get in your feelings over it like a str8 sucka
8) I been smoking on dis safe+sound pack all week! I got the plug to the evolution pack. I'll pass it off some time this week.
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The List Of Books In The Bible Written By Paul:
The Book Of Romans Was Written By Paul
Romans 1
King James Version
1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,
The Book Of 1 Corinthians Was Written By Paul
1 Corinthians 1
King James Version
1 Paul called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,
The Book Of 2 Corinthians Was Written By Paul
2 Corinthians 1
King James Version
1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, unto the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints which are in all Achaia:
The Book Of Galatians Was Written By Paul
Galatians 1
King James Version
1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)
The Book Of Ephesians Was Written By Paul
Ephesians 1
King James Version
1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:
The Book Of Philippians Was Written By Paul
Philippians 1
King James Version
1 Paul and Timotheus, the servants of Jesus Christ, to all the saints in Christ Jesus which are at Philippi, with the bishops and deacons:
The Book Of Colossians Was Written By Paul
Colossians 1
King James Version
1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timotheus our brother,
The Book Of 1 Thessalonians Was Written By Paul
1 Thessalonians 1
King James Version
1 Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
The Book Of 2 Thessalonians Was Written By Paul
The Book Of 1 Timothy Was Written By Paul
1 Timothy 1
King James Version
1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the commandment of God our Saviour, and Lord Jesus Christ, which is our hope;
The Book Of 2 Timothy Was Written By Paul
2 Timothy 1
King James Version
1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, according to the promise of life which is in Christ Jesus,
The Book Of Titus Was Written By Paul
Titus 1
King James Version
1 Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;
The Book Of Philemon Was Written By Paul
Philemon
King James Version
1 Paul, a prisoner of Jesus Christ, and Timothy our brother, unto Philemon our dearly beloved, and fellowlabourer,
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Acts Chapter 27 -
37 And as Paul was to be led into the castle, he said unto the chief captain, May I speak unto thee? Who said, Canst thou speak Greek?
38 Art not thou that Egyptian, which before these days madest an uproar, and leddest out into the wilderness four thousand men that were murderers?
39 But Paul said, I am a man which am a Jew of Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, a citizen of no mean city: and, I beseech thee, suffer me to speak unto the people.
40 And when he had given him licence, Paul stood on the stairs, and beckoned with the hand unto the people. And when there was made a great silence, he spake unto them in the Hebrew tongue, saying,
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My bad y'all. After I got done with that safe+sound pack I started on that Judaism pack. Man this is some good stuff! I been so busy smoking on that Judaism ET that I haven't had a chance to get at Safe yet.
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He'll get that work soon (and anyone else who has something to say) though I promise.
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My bad y'all. After I got done with that safe+sound pack I started on that Judaism pack. Man this is some good stuff! I been so busy smoking on that Judaism ET that I haven't had a chance to get at Safe yet.
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He'll get that work soon (and anyone else who has something to say) though I promise.
bruh u continue quoting the new testament when i already posted a video that showed that it unequivocally contradicts the old testament and is even off with the numbers
and you still think it’s divine
if that don’t make u give up on your cac book then nothing will
:ohwell: