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Eminem is going to make the end of the year super hot for Hip-Hop fans with a new album!
(AllHipHop News) It appears that the world will have to contend with a new album from Eminem.
The Detroit wordsmith has revealed that November 17 will be the date his ninth album will drop, according to industry staple Hits Daily Double. The now-bearded rapper has been in the studio with Dr. Dre and and 2 Chainz as well. Little more is know about the a untitled album.
Similar to Jay-Z, Em has not dropped an album since 2013’s The Marshall Mathers LP 2. That opus sold over 4-times platinum.
The rapper will be heard on a new album from Pink called Beautiful Trauma, which drops Friday. Em is featured on “Revenge.”
https://www.themaven.net/allhiphop/news/eminem-reveals-release-date-for-new-album-4rPjXzwUAU60aSRdYKIhmw
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Dissing trump, couple love songs, pop, goofy. Eminem is wack as fuck these days.
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Interesting that it's only one month away and yet we've heard next to nothing about this project other than a couple of possible collaborations and the BET cypher freestyle to get his name out there again. No tentative single, not even a name for the album which is unusual for Eminem.
I'm thinking it's gonna cover a lot of political and topical themes, and will be quite a serious album. Might even be one of these 'surprise' online drops without anything being heard beforehand.
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interesting to see how his fan base reacts to the Trump diss when the album comes out...I think it will sell but not as much as his previous records
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it's guna go platinum first week
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no doubt it will sell big but only white folks give a shit bout an em release whats funny you got all these fake as em fans especally the young kids say hes the best yadda yadda yadda but cant name anything but the singles some dont even know bout the pre aftermath stuff but em is smart to walk away and come back every some years cause people would of gotten tired of his rap years ago
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If the Fredwreck and Dr. Dre tracks are upto Relapse standard, i'll probably cop this. If it's Recovery/MMLP2 standard, probably not.
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It will sell big and still be a flop of an album
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mmlp2 was dope
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Can't wait for this. I've got a feeling he's going to come with a better album than we expect.
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Meh. He's got no angle other than making an anti-Trump album. Sheep gonna claim it's for the culture, it's really for more M's.
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Meh. He's got no angle other than making an anti-Trump album. Sheep gonna claim it's for the culture, it's really for more M's.
he did the same wit the anti-bush shit in 04
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So the album is titled 'Revival' apparently. Would have made sense to call his last album by that name, surely?
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Meh. He's got no angle other than making an anti-Trump album. Sheep gonna claim it's for the culture, it's really for more M's.
he did the same wit the anti-bush shit in 04
Yeah & he was the best rapper in the world. Now he's washed up looking for views.
Just give me a 6.5/10 album, Slim. I'll take that.
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Meh. He's got no angle other than making an anti-Trump album. Sheep gonna claim it's for the culture, it's really for more M's.
he did the same wit the anti-bush shit in 04
Yeah & he was the best rapper in the world. Now he's washed up looking for views.
Just give me a 6.5/10 album, Slim. I'll take that.
bet it's better than jays shit
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If the Fredwreck and Dr. Dre tracks are upto Relapse standard, i'll probably cop this. If it's Recovery/MMLP2 standard, probably not.
if those tracks even make the album :-\
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Why are we gonna act like Eminem's last dope album wasn't The Eminem Show? LOL
will check for it still but it's probably gonna be just like his last albums: a few good songs with mostly trash
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Why are we gonna act like Eminem's last dope album wasn't The Eminem Show? LOL
will check for it still but it's probably gonna be just like his last albums: a few good songs with mostly trash
Why not Encore?
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Why are we gonna act like Eminem's last dope album wasn't The Eminem Show? LOL
will check for it still but it's probably gonna be just like his last albums: a few good songs with mostly trash
relapse and mmlp2 were both dope .. encore was hit n miss
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Relapse was heavily slept on because many were turned off by the accents...the production on that album was classic and Em was really spitting
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Why are we gonna act like Eminem's last dope album wasn't The Eminem Show? LOL
will check for it still but it's probably gonna be just like his last albums: a few good songs with mostly trash
relapse and mmlp2 were both dope .. encore was hit n miss
Encore - throwaways from The Eminem Show, 4-5 good songs at best
Relapse - amazing production soiled by trash flows and cringeworthy accents, only about 3 songs that are keepers here
Recovery - horrible pop record that is possibly his worst
MMLP2 - overrated trash minus 2-3 songs to be generous, only reason it gets a pass from some is due to the name and they just want to like it
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Why are we gonna act like Eminem's last dope album wasn't The Eminem Show? LOL
will check for it still but it's probably gonna be just like his last albums: a few good songs with mostly trash
relapse and mmlp2 were both dope .. encore was hit n miss
Encore - throwaways from The Eminem Show, 4-5 good songs at best
Relapse - amazing production soiled by trash flows and cringeworthy accents, only about 3 songs that are keepers here
Recovery - horrible pop record that is possibly his worst
MMLP2 - overrated trash minus 2-3 songs to be generous, only reason it gets a pass from some is due to the name and they just want to like it
The Eminem Show was fucking wack, only retards who don't know Hip-Hop think it's good. Em can't produce for shit. And the subject matter was maaad boring.
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Why are we gonna act like Eminem's last dope album wasn't The Eminem Show? LOL
will check for it still but it's probably gonna be just like his last albums: a few good songs with mostly trash
relapse and mmlp2 were both dope .. encore was hit n miss
This.
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Why are we gonna act like Eminem's last dope album wasn't The Eminem Show? LOL
will check for it still but it's probably gonna be just like his last albums: a few good songs with mostly trash
relapse and mmlp2 were both dope .. encore was hit n miss
Encore - throwaways from The Eminem Show, 4-5 good songs at best
Relapse - amazing production soiled by trash flows and cringeworthy accents, only about 3 songs that are keepers here
Recovery - horrible pop record that is possibly his worst
MMLP2 - overrated trash minus 2-3 songs to be generous, only reason it gets a pass from some is due to the name and they just want to like it
The Eminem Show was fucking wack, only retards who don't know Hip-Hop think it's good. Em can't produce for shit. And the subject matter was maaad boring.
my CD collection is about 400+ strong, vinyl collection 500+ strong... how about yours, Mr. Know-All-Hop-Hop?
the fact of the matter is Eminem has simply not released a strong body of work since The Eminem Show and everything since has been inconsistent hit/miss joints or just straight up trash lol please break it down how any of those other frisbees are better and how much more complex the content was :laugh:
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Relapse was heavily slept on because many were turned off by the accents, I didn't mind personally it fit the concept of the album somewhat :laugh:
and the production on that album was flawless
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Why are we gonna act like Eminem's last dope album wasn't The Eminem Show? LOL
will check for it still but it's probably gonna be just like his last albums: a few good songs with mostly trash
relapse and mmlp2 were both dope .. encore was hit n miss
Encore - throwaways from The Eminem Show, 4-5 good songs at best
Relapse - amazing production soiled by trash flows and cringeworthy accents, only about 3 songs that are keepers here
Recovery - horrible pop record that is possibly his worst
MMLP2 - overrated trash minus 2-3 songs to be generous, only reason it gets a pass from some is due to the name and they just want to like it
lol naah, his only whack album is recovery
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Why are we gonna act like Eminem's last dope album wasn't The Eminem Show? LOL
will check for it still but it's probably gonna be just like his last albums: a few good songs with mostly trash
relapse and mmlp2 were both dope .. encore was hit n miss
Encore - throwaways from The Eminem Show, 4-5 good songs at best
Relapse - amazing production soiled by trash flows and cringeworthy accents, only about 3 songs that are keepers here
Recovery - horrible pop record that is possibly his worst
MMLP2 - overrated trash minus 2-3 songs to be generous, only reason it gets a pass from some is due to the name and they just want to like it
The Eminem Show was fucking wack, only retards who don't know Hip-Hop think it's good. Em can't produce for shit. And the subject matter was maaad boring.
:snoopfacepalm:
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Why are we gonna act like Eminem's last dope album wasn't The Eminem Show? LOL
will check for it still but it's probably gonna be just like his last albums: a few good songs with mostly trash
relapse and mmlp2 were both dope .. encore was hit n miss
Encore - throwaways from The Eminem Show, 4-5 good songs at best
Relapse - amazing production soiled by trash flows and cringeworthy accents, only about 3 songs that are keepers here
Recovery - horrible pop record that is possibly his worst
MMLP2 - overrated trash minus 2-3 songs to be generous, only reason it gets a pass from some is due to the name and they just want to like it
The Eminem Show was fucking wack, only retards who don't know Hip-Hop think it's good. Em can't produce for shit. And the subject matter was maaad boring.
Damn. I guess i don't know Hip Hop.
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Why are we gonna act like Eminem's last dope album wasn't The Eminem Show? LOL
will check for it still but it's probably gonna be just like his last albums: a few good songs with mostly trash
relapse and mmlp2 were both dope .. encore was hit n miss
Encore - throwaways from The Eminem Show, 4-5 good songs at best
Relapse - amazing production soiled by trash flows and cringeworthy accents, only about 3 songs that are keepers here
Recovery - horrible pop record that is possibly his worst
MMLP2 - overrated trash minus 2-3 songs to be generous, only reason it gets a pass from some is due to the name and they just want to like it
The Eminem Show was fucking wack, only retards who don't know Hip-Hop think it's good. Em can't produce for shit. And the subject matter was maaad boring.
Damn. I guess i don't know Hip Hop.
lol dude either got so triggered he made an asinine statement like that or he meant to actually say Relapse, Recovery, or MMLP2 were that wack (which I would have maybe almost agreed with otherwise) :laugh:
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oh yeah this kid got triggered alright, got "dissed" 6 times since the post :laugh:
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BbPw0ljlVbB/?taken-by=eminem
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First single from the album. Produced by Rick Rubin.
https://youtu.be/n1WpP7iowLc
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First single from the album. Produced by Rick Rubin.
https://youtu.be/n1WpP7iowLc
Someone should tell him that when it's not a capella and there's a beat, he needs to rap on the beat...
Beyonce's part is dope though
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flow and delivery trash
and yeah Beyonce is the best part of the song...actually would have suited Jayzs album better
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Man, I'm an Eminem fan. I've really enjoyed most of his albums. In fact, I thought MMLP 2
was great, but this is...not good.
Someone said Em should rap to the beat. I can't even hear a beat, just that stupid piano
and Em doing that same freestyle type flow where he raps a few bars and takes a breath,
raps a few bars, and takes a breath. I'm still going to check out the album when it drops,
but I can't believe he went with this for his first single.
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First single from the album. Produced by Rick Rubin.
https://youtu.be/n1WpP7iowLc
oh no not this again
:snoopfacepalm:
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Rick Rubin is responsible for that beat-less blunder, wtf!?
Wack start to the new Em album.
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Rick Rubin Produces, Dr. Dre Mixes on Eminem’s New Album "Revival"
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Eminem's upcoming album still doesn't have a release date but that didn't stop the Detroit rapper from revealing some new information about the project.
Appearing on Shade 45 with DJ Whoo Kid, Em and manager Paul Rosenberg played it coy when asked about the new album but did let it slip that Rick Rubin and Dr. Dre have worked on the project. According to the rapper, Rubin produced "three or four" tracks on Revival, while Dr. Dre "mixed a few records."
Em also spoke about his collaboration with Beyonce on "Walk on Water," revealing he had always wanted to work with the singer but never had material that he felt suited her. "Everything she does is so perfect," he said. "But the pressures behind that, for her to do it so perfect — I felt like she could probably relate to that."
The rapper also took a small shot at fans hoping he goes back to his old Slim Shady sound, rapping a few bars with the classic Shady voice. He added, "I really love it when people go, 'Hey, you know, Slim Shady, Eminem and Marshall, like, they're really different, like, which one are you on this album?'" He then agreed when Rosenberg called it "a dumb question at this point."
Up next for Em, the rapper will be appearing on the upcoming episode of Saturday Night Live on Nov. 18. Shady will join host Chance The Rapper as the musical guest and is expected to perform two songs.
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Single is absolute ass. Cannot believe that was the start.
And cannot believe Em didn't drop the album last night. Cannot be he pushed it back. That would be shocking.
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Eminem has been garbage ( except for a few songs/verses here and there) since 2004 , not worth checking .
And LMAO at Dre "mixing" a few records
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Single is absolute ass. Cannot believe that was the start.
And cannot believe Em didn't drop the album last night. Cannot be he pushed it back. That would be shocking.
hopefully it's cuz he realizes the single is whack
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Single is absolute ass. Cannot believe that was the start.
And cannot believe Em didn't drop the album last night. Cannot be he pushed it back. That would be shocking.
hopefully it's cuz he realizes the single is whack
thats probably why he needs to understand his fans want the old em not pop em
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waiting on this tho Em hasnt been as good lately. last classic was RELAPSE
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He's performing on SNL tonight. Hopefully he gives us a little more insight. Hopefully he announces at the end of SNL that the album is available to stream.
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https://twitter.com/Southpawer/status/932870867197071360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fboxden.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D2550351
looks like i was right .. album is bein pushed back cuz "walk on water" is eminems first lead single not to debut in the top 10 ..... now they sayin it's not the lead single and new release date = dec 8
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Rating The Quality (& Campiness) Of Eminem's Lead Album Singles
by DX Staff
Let’s face it: every great rapper has an Achilles’ heel.
Nas is known for picking lackluster beats. Some feel that 2Pac’s and JAY-Z’s delivery can be too choppy. And where the hell is that Andre 3000 solo album?
When it comes to Eminem, well, let’s just say his lead singles are often campier than Yellowstone National Park.
“Walk On Water,” Eminem’s Beyonce-assisted lead single for the upcoming Revival, has been judged by the fans and Stans alike and it’s now time to rank Eminem’s lead-off cuts now that another one is set in stone.
“Just Don’t Give a Fuck” from The Slim Shady LP (1998)
Rating: 4.2/5
Contrary to what some might believe, “My Name Is” was not the first single off Eminem’s major label debut. (It’s just the first one you heard.) Marshall left Eminem at home and Slim Shady came out to play over disturbing screams and downbeat Bass Brothers production. A brain-dead-like-Jim-Brady Shady takes the stage like Rage Against the Machine, screaming “Fuck the world!” like 2Pac, knocking out the opposition like Mike Tyson, and cursing out players like former Detroit Lions coach Marty Schottenheimer.
That last reference dates Eminem, as does his reference to Ron Goldman’s killing in 1994. And while his clever lambasting of white rap acts Everlast, Vanilla Ice, Prime Minister Pete and MC Serch is understandable, given that they made it harder for a white rapper to be taken seriously, kids today probably won’t have any idea who they are.
All that said, this song is still eye-popping, guiltily hilarious, and technically impressive. “The looniest, zaniest, spontaneous, sporadic/ Impulsive thinker, compulsive drinker, addict,” he rhymes. After hearing this song, who could doubt those claims?
Campiness X Factor: Dirty Shell Toes.
“The Real Slim Shady” off The Marshall Mathers LP (2000)
Rating: 4.6/5
During the iconic Up in Smoke Tour, Em would quip how much he hated this song. Seeing that rap has now overtaken pop music for the ubiquity crown, it would be crazy to rank this in the top three most TRL songs of all-time — making it a shoo-in for embarrassment. But when you strip away the Becky-bait beat and seriously dated name drops (let’s see Jimmy Kimmel find kids on the street who know Tom Green or Fred Durst), there’s a magical element about this song that cannot be overlooked.
It was the coming out party (no, not that type of coming out party) for an artist who would go on using the First Amendment as his moleskin and boldly trailblaze the genre into uncharted commercial success. Also, it’s still hilarious to hear him say “fuck” Will Smith.
Campiness X Factor: The “my bum is on your lips” line far outliving the original reference.
“Without Me” off The Eminem Show (2002)
Rating: 4.4/5
Come 2002, Eminem had already released two comedic statement singles with “My Name Is,” and “The Real Slim Shady,” and a much darker one in “The Way I Am.” So, “Without Me” remains remarkable not so much for what he says, but more for his technical ability and the hum-worthy synths that strain to keep up with his rhyming pace. There are more digs at white music acts like Limp Bizkit, Chris Kirkpatrick of NSYNC, and Moby. He calls Prince a symbol and draws self-comparisons to Elvis Presley. And of course, he tells his mother to fuck herself, bemoans the FCC’s bug up their ass, and pokes fun at then-Vice President Dick Cheney’s heart problem. Some different names, but the same sentiment. Been there, heard that.
However, “Without Me” is undeniably catchy. Listen to the song once and it will be stuck in your head throughout your workday. “A little bit of weed mixed with some hard liquor/ Some vodka that’ll jump-start my heart quicker/ Than a shock when I get shocked at the hospital/ By the doctor when I’m not cooperating/ When I’m rocking the table while he’s operating,” he breathlessly raps in a high-pitched voice. There was no denying at this point that the sheer spectacle of Eminem rapping was worth the price of admission.
Campiness X Factor: Nobody listens to techno but this is a Dr. Dre disco beat.
“Lose Yourself” from 8 Mile: Music From and Inspired By the Motion Picture (2002)
Rating: 5/5
Simply hearing this track could turns a listener’s knees weak and arms heavy (but please don’t vomit your mom’s spaghetti). The lead single from the soundtrack to Em’s hit movie is not only his greatest single ever, it’s also arguably his best song of any kind. “Lose Yourself” condensed the film’s bleak angst turned extraordinary triumph, complete with three acts (verses) to cement itself as auditory cinema. Cheesy references? Forget about it. There’s a lone reference to 8 Mile co-star Mekhi Phifer, and only to contrast Em’s pre-Hip Hop struggles with a Hollywood lifestyle.
The third verse’s climax finds the beat quickening as Marshall speeds up his flow in frantic desperation for a Rocky-esque photo finish. With “Lose Yourself,” Eminem proved once and for all he didn’t need shock rap to be great. He can do anything he puts his mind to. Which also means making history. “Lose Yourself” was the first rap song to win the Academy Award for Best Original Song.
Campiness X Factor: N/A
“Just Lose It” from Encore (2004)
Rating: 1.8/5
Although it wouldn’t be revealed until the 2010 Recovery song, “Talkin’ 2 Myself,” the line “Encore I was on drugs/ Relapse I was flushin’ them out” all but excuses the atrocity that was, “Just Lose It.”
By this point in his career, Eminem had proven himself to be not only an automatic sales magnet but a formidable MC capable of squaring up with anyone in the lyrical arena (he had taken on Canibus, Ja Rule, and XXL magazine before this song’s release).
So for him to revert back to dressing up like Michael Jackson (and Madonna?!?) after he murdered the part of B-Rabbit was utterly disappointing. Especially since garbagé like this buried the best (and more Dr. Dre) records on the album.
Campiness X Factor: Ernest P. Worrell would be proud.
“Crack a Bottle” from Relapse (2009)
Rating: 2.5/5
Another stinker of a lead single. His Underdog accent is painfully obnoxious, and he sounds sorely out of place rapping about “bitches hopping in [his] Tahoe.” That’s just not Em. Nothing about this track sounded genuine, save his kinship with Dr. Dre and 50 Cent, whose verses are bland and waste the flavorful, bass-heavy Dre production. At least the pop-culture references weren’t stifling (Shady saved that for “We Made You”). The extent of it for Marshall is to liken himself to Andre the Giant and call for the Bat-Signal to shine for himself, Dre and Fiddy.
Meanwhile, Dre spends a good chunk of his time bragging about his luxury vehicles and making a tired reference about Waco, Texas. 50 Cent also gets materialistic, boasting about Jimmy Choo Shoes and Birkin Bags after comparing himself to King Kong. It’s all very pointless. Next, please.
Campiness X Factor: Yeah, still Em rapping about his “bitches.”
“Not Afraid” from Recovery
Rating: 4.8/5
Hello, Sober Eminem. After totally “flushing” the drugs out, Marshall Mathers would step up to pick up the bulletproof vest once worn by “Lose Yourself” to armor up against depression, addiction, and fear with one of his most recognizable singles in “Not Afraid.”
Seven years later and the track still oozes with maximum levels of conviction, confidence, and passion. “It was my decision to get clean/ I did it for me, admittedly I probably did it subliminally — for you/ So I could come back a brand-new me/ You helped see me through/ And don’t even realize what you did, believe me you” he rapped to touch the hearts of millions.
Sure, the song’s structured chorus has always been vulnerable for parodies but there’s no denying that its message, powerful rhyme schemes, and unabashed testimonies have all assisted in saving at least one person’s life. No campiness here.
Campiness X Factor: N/A
“Fast Lane” from Hell: The Sequel (2011)
Rating: 3.5/5
Eminem and Royce Da 5’9 became friends again in the late 2000s, and naturally, they hopped in the studio together as Bad Meets Evil for a nine-song EP. The lead single is technically outstanding, but it wasn’t anything we hadn’t heard before. And while “Without Me” benefitted from the fact that it was still breathtaking to hear just how well Eminem can rap, by this point we all knew what Marshall was capable of (or, we thought we did, until “Rap God” caused earthquakes all over the Western Hemisphere).
Still, it was enjoyable to hear Royce and Marshall trade bars like they were sitting on a porch. It helps that the pop culture references weren’t as invasive. They’re still there — Eminem compares his competition to The Brady Bunch, takes his 1,236th dig at Vanilla Ice, and cleverly talks about living life until he’s Swayze (Patrick Swayze had just died a few years prior of pancreatic cancer, and Shady’s quip sounded more like wordplay than a diss). Meanwhile, Royce likens himself to Jack Kevorkian and Michael Jackson.
Cringe-worthy moments do arise when Eminem bends “penis” to rhyme with “anus” and directs the hard-on in Nicki Minaj’s direction. Eminem was nearly 40 years old at this point, and his juvenile raps weren’t so funny anymore. “Fast Lane” is impressive, and even worthy of multiple spins, but pales in comparison to past lead singles.
Campiness X Factor: Commercial lyrical rap du jour.
“Berzerk” from The Marshall Mathers LP 2 (2013)
Rating: 3.8/5
Wait, Eminem was in Beastie Boys? At least, that’s the impression that was intended for “Berzerk,” his official kickoff for the under-appreciated MMLP2. With assistance from the Licensed to Ill architect, Mr. Rick Rubin himself, the static distorted rap record differentiated itself from anything that was poppin’ at the time (which likely had Mustard on the beat, hoe).
From a purist’s standpoint, there’s nothing really to knock “Berzerk” for. The crashing guitar damn sure worked for the Beasties and Run-DMC during the dawn of Hip Hop’s acceptance period and live DJ scratches are fractions of a b-boy eargasm. That said, bringing back ’80s Hip Hop isn’t the same as resurrecting its fashion and the song didn’t overly connect in the grand scheme of things. Still, a noble effort at “keeping it real.”
Campiness X Factor: Stonewashed jeans & Kangols approved.
“Walk on Water” (featuring Beyonce) from Revival (2017)
Rating: 4/5
Finally, a lead single almost entirely devoid of gimmicks. Marshall Mathers takes center stage here, rapping conversationally like JAY-Z did on 4:44. An album after elevating himself to “Rap God” status, Marshall strips off the facade and bears the weary soul of the man underneath. Yes, he references his past work, but in a way that criticizes his crutches (his juvenile rhymes, shouting, and past vitriol toward his mother). Instead of claiming Top 5, he puts himself a notch below Nas, Rakim, 2Pac, The Notorious B.I.G. and LL Cool J.
Beyonce threatens to steal the show with her elongated, high-pitched expressions of self-deprecation on the hook, and the slow, melancholy piano keys set an appropriate tone for Eminem’s reflections. The only substantial criticism to this track is that Eminem is still not fully married to the beat, opting instead to go rappity-rap even when he’s waxing thoughtfully. Still, this does little to hinder the overall feel of “Walk on Water,” which raises hope for a compelling revitalization.
Campiness X Factor: Where are the drums?
Words by Trent Clark & Aaron McKrell
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a 4/5 for "Walk On Water"? :-\
otherwise nice review but I wasn't feeling "Not Afraid" myself
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a 4/5 for "Walk On Water"? :-\
otherwise nice review but I wasn't feeling "Not Afraid" myself
It's definitely better than "Just Lose It", "Crack A Bottle", "Berzerk" and "Walk On Water" in my opinion.
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a 4/5 for "Walk On Water"? :-\
otherwise nice review but I wasn't feeling "Not Afraid" myself
It's definitely better than "Just Lose It", "Crack A Bottle", "Berzerk" and "Walk On Water" in my opinion.
I agree it is better than those singles...but the reviewer gave it almost a perfect rating at 4.8/5? ;D
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not afraid was sappy pop garbage, i'll take crack a bottle all day
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It's dropping on December 15.
https://twitter.com/drdre/status/935600524711272448
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It's dropping on December 15.
https://twitter.com/drdre/status/935600524711272448
pushed back another week then?
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Rating The Quality (& Campiness) Of Eminem's Lead Album Singles
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Words by Trent Clark & Aaron McKrell
Where's Purple Pills and My Band? They put Fast Lane in there.
And since Lose Yourself is in there why isn't You Don't Know there as well?
If I had to rate his singles from best to worst:
1. Purple Pills
2. The Real Slim Shady
3. My Band
4. Without Me
5. Berzerk
6. Crack A Bottle
7. Not Afraid
8. Just Don't Give A Fuck
9. Lose Yourself
10. You Don't Know
11. Fast Lane
12. Just Lose it
I haven't listened to the new one on a good audio system yet.
I like the 1st 8 on this list a lot, if I had to write it down again the order might change lol. The other 4 not so much.
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How on God's Green Earth are you sitting here telling me Just Don't Give A Fuck & Lose Yourself aren't above & beyond better than everything else you named lol.
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tracklist is out on Em's IG... spoiler alert: it's going to blow lol
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Popish features and the only rap feature is Phresher wtf how the fuck is this wack ass rapper got on Em new album ???
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Popish features and the only rap feature is Phresher wtf how the fuck is this wack ass rapper got on Em new album ???
right lol yeah it's pretty much confirmed trash at this point, might be the first Em album I won't even check out
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looks like Recovery 2 :-\
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BcVDysNlq-f/?hl=en
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what the fuck are those features?????
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looks like Recovery 2 :-\
With these features, this is gonna be worst than Recovery. :-\
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looks like Recovery 2 :-\
With these features, this is gonna be worst than Recovery. :-\
100%
looking to also be one of the worst albums of the year overall
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what audience is he going for with this, I can’t imagine today’s teenyboppers listening to this or no?
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what audience is he going for with this, I can’t imagine today’s teenyboppers listening to this or no?
he wanted to grab the Black female audience with the Beyonce single first, now he's going for every other female demographic with the rest of these cotton candy features, maybe a few up and coming xanax addicted soundcloud rapper-fans that listen to Phresher
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i hope this is the last album
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This looks like going to be trash big time. Alicia keys xabasadaros, beyonce, khelani... damn homie in highs school you was the man homie, what the fuck is happen to you? Damn eminem, damn.
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The tracklist does seem very much like the Recovery album, I agree. I'm not going to judge until I hear the album in full, but I can understand other's reservations. Going on Eminem's last stuff (Shady XV - which had some incredible Eminem verses) I expect Revival to have at least some joints up to that standard.
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The last time I was excited about a featured artist on an Eminem album was “Session 1”with Slaughterhouse, off of “Recovery”(and that was just a bonus track). Before that, I’d have to go all the way back to “Remember Me,”and “Bitch Please part 2,” off of “The Marshal Mathers LP.” Em just doesn’t feature many other artists on his albums. And anymore when he does, they’re rarely other emcees. For that reason, I’m not going to get too bent out of shape, until I hear the album. While I’m definitely not excited by any of these features, I imagine most of them will amount to those featured artists singing the hook on their respective tracks. Having said that, I do miss the days when Obie or Royce or D12 were featured on his albums.
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tweeted by Crooked I, never mind he was trolling ;D
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New in-depth interview:
https://www.interviewmagazine.com/music/eminem-elton-john-december-2017-interview
Artwork reveal -
https://www.youtube.com/v/VUFCSGSOLOg
https://www.youtube.com/v/tFe-LctQmqI
The album cover (kinda how everyone feels about the features) -
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tweeted by Crooked I, never mind he was trolling ;D
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even crook knows whatsup
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Another release, song in the second half is the better one -
https://www.youtube.com/v/56KYMMGudcU
Why Em' dont work with the Bass bros...
Q&A: Producer Jeff Bass on Discovering Young Eminem: ‘He Was Sitting on the Toilet, and He Came Up With the Alter Ego’
You may have never heard of the Bass Brothers. But you’ve heard the Bass Brothers. Before Jimmy Iovine, before Dr. Dre, it was Michigan’s Jeff and Mark Bass who were flipping their shit over the sounds of a young kid from Detroit named Marshall Mathers. In the early days, the production duo’s studio on 8 Mile Road was like a second home for Eminem. And it was there that they recorded The Slim Shady EP, which would eventually make its way to Dre and Iovine and land Eminem his record deal. They’d continue to work with Em for years, producing all but three tracks on The Slim Shady LP, some of the more twisted ends of The Marshall Mathers LP, and — drum roll, drum roll, drum roll — “Lose Yourself.” With this week’s release of The Marshall Mathers LP 2, we got Jeff Bass on the phone to talk about the good old days.
How’d you meet Eminem?
My brother was listening to the radio, what today is our 95.5. It was a DJ we knew named Lisa Lisa. He called and asked her who that was, freestyling. She said, that’s Marshall Mathers. He said, “Is there any way we can get in touch with him?” She gives him the number. My brother called. And at three o’clock in the morning [Eminem] came to the studio, with a bunch of little dudes who turned out to be D12. That’s how it began. We didn’t know him, and he didn’t know us. He took a leap of faith at three in the morning.
Was he in school then?
He was working. He was flipping hamburgers at a little diner. Kind of a Coney Island. And every chance he got, he was in the studio. After work, before work. Studio.
What’d you make of him at first?
I was always kind of a hip-hop head, because of the R&B roots behind it. But when Marshall came into the picture, I wasn’t quite sure about his ability — because I couldn’t understand what he was saying! He was triple-timing, spitting rhymes: I was just trying to comprehend him. Then I started writing tracks for him. And it became apparent that he was amazing.
In between Infinite [Eminem’s official, independently released first album] and The Slim Shady EP, we figured out how to communicate with him. Because he doesn’t come from a musical background. We had to figure out a way emotionally to get through to him. So how I approached it is, any song that had a happy feel we’d call a happy tune. Angry, sad, violent — we’d use adjectives to get through to him. So that he could write the type of lyrics that’d go with the track.
Most people know Kim as a character. You have a different perspective.
He’s been with me since ‘95, when he was a young buck. I was with him when Hailie was just born. I knew Kim. She used to come into the studio with us all the time. We used to take Marshall out to the different clubs in Detroit. She would come with us, be her crazy self.
So was it clear their relationship was dysfunctional?
Oh yeah. It was always obvious. He basically lived with us in the studio on 8 Mile road. And you got to know the person. We had to deal with his mother, we had to deal with Kim, we had to deal with uncles and friends trying to be hangers-on. You really get to know a person. And it was amazing. As he would come up with the stories [on the songs], those of us who were close to him working on the project, we knew there was so much truth in what he was saying. That’s pure emotion. That’s realism. And he told it like he was speaking to every kid out there that was going through the same thing. He was their voice. It was quite incredible.
Take me back to the time between Infinite and The Slim Shady EP. What changed in him?
We pressed up Infinite. We might have pressed up maybe five hundred, a thousand records tops. We couldn’t give them away. Nobody was feeling it. We don’t know why. Then Marshall, I think he was sitting on the toilet making a poop, and he came up with the alter ego. He came into the studio, talking about this alter ego that he has now. And all the boys in D12, they all had alter egos too. It was just a great thing to start the new project with. And he went with that.
When did the big break come?
He was doing the Rap Olympics, and he was winning all over the place. And then he lost in L.A., but when we were there we had a bunch of The Slim Shady EPs. At that particular show, there was somebody in the audience watching. A young kid, 17 years old, and he saw all the passion that Marshall was putting into his show and his lyrics. And he came up to us after, “Can I get a CD?” Little did we know, he worked in the mail room at Interscope Records. And he LOVED Eminem. And what he did for us, on his own, is slip the CD in Jimmy Iovine’s listening bag that he used to take home every Friday. And Jimmy actually listened to it, and said “Whoa whoa whoa — what is this?” And he called Dre, and then Dre came and listened to it. It’s not like Dre found it on the floor in his garage. The true story was that he was called by Jimmy. And then it all snowballed from there.
Was Eminem blown away when the call from Interscope came in? Or was he trying to temper his expectations?
He was really excited, first of all, that Dr. Dre was gonna be involved. [Dre] was a big star in ’98. He was freaked out: “Oh my god, I can’t believe it!” Me and my brother were excited: “Dr. Dre wants to talk to us!” And Marshall went out to L.A. with my brother first. They got there a week before me. And it started immediately. Meeting Dre, talking with Jimmy, meeting all these people, this whole crazy period. I think it was February of ‘98.
Is that when the conversation started about the crossover potential? The whole commercial implication of a big white rapper?
All of us who were working on the project, skin color was never an issue. I mean, you got two white guys that took another white guy out to California to get a record deal in a predominantly black music. Right there, that was a little strange. But we never really played that side of the race because we just looked at it as music. We didn’t care, white, black, this, that: It’s the society and the media that makes it a big deal. “Oh, he’s a white rapper, we’re gonna get this white boy out there, he’s gonna make millions of records to all of the black people!” We were doing hip-hop music for the love of hip-hop music.
Where’d you record The Slim Shady LP?
Most of that album was recorded in Burbank. While Dre was doing his thing at his house, and at Larrabee Studios, we had a little studio in Burbank called the Little Mix Room. It was tiny.
What were the hours like?
Pretty much like 20 hours a day. We went through three or four different engineers. We were these workalcoholics, and these kids, they were being paid hourly, and they could not hang. They’d say, “It’s not worth it for me, for six dollars an hour!” We’d sleep four hours and we’d come to start it again. But we wanted it so bad. Ideas would be constantly flowing. And when you had it, you made sacrifices in your life. We moved to L.A., we left our families here in Michigan. We weren’t out there to party. We’d give ourselves Sunday off, to recuperate.
You were the gruff voice on “Public Service Announcement.”
And the voice of the “Soap” skit, and the voice of the “Lounge” skit, and the voice of the old cowboy rocking in a rocking chair before and after “Bad Meets Evil.” I always wanted to do voice-overs. I guess I got people to hear my voice on some records that sold a couple. That’s pretty cool.
Did the label give you a deadline to turn it in?
Normally they liked to have the album in a couple of months, maybe three months. We did the album in three weeks. And they weren’t very happy! They said, “You guys are gonna have to go and mix a few other records. That’s too early.” The marketing department wasn’t ready. That’s how much we worked. But we were so efficient at what we were doing. We were ready to bust out. “Here, sell this record so he can go tour.” They were going, “Whoa! Slow down!” They had to pull the reins in.
Did you know that album would do what it did?
Honestly, no. I mean, we knew it was a good record. But we didn’t know what to expect. I mean, my whole life, my dream was to have a gold record on my wall. It wasn’t about the money or the fame. I just wanted a gold record on my wall. Then one day, maybe eight or nine months after The Slim Shady LP, I call up my manager: “So am I gonna get my gold record on my wall?” He says, “Oh, no, no. No gold records. You get a platinum record.” I say, “I didn’t want that! I wanted a gold record!” He says, “Dude, do you know what platinum means? It means you sold a million!” “Oh. OK.” Then it was, you got the three-times platinum, then the four-times platinum. Oh. Cool. All we knew is that everywhere you went in the world, you heard it.
Fast-forward to The Marshall Mathers LP. Eminem calls you and says, it’s time to go back to work?
It doesn’t really go like that. You never stop writing. And you gotta remember, D12 came into play. During The Marshall Mathers LP I was doing both that and the D12 album.
I’d moved back to Michigan. I had, at that time, a little boy. I had to be home. And if I had to go out west, I would go out west. And Marshall didn’t like to travel much, either, so it worked out really perfectly. He had a studio in his house, I had one at my house — there was always somewhere to record songs. You just worked. Some of the songs that were written didn’t come out for two albums. We just stockpiled songs. We just wrote and wrote and wrote.
What was the big difference between TSSLP and TMMLP?
We decided to, musically, keep it more raw. [On the first album] I’d play the guitar track for the four and a half minutes, as opposed to sampling a four-bar loop. I’d add the drums, the keyboard, pick up the bass, then add the little sprinkles on top, with the the intent of going back after we do the vocals to fix those parts. To make them flawless. This one, we kept mistakes in. Little things. I wouldn’t tune my guitar. It kind of started like a new Eminem sound. What he was talking about was gritty. And it wasn’t a perfect sound. It fit like a glove.
We gotta talk about “Lose Yourself.” Your old studio was actually on 8 Mile, and you used to describe your sound as “8 Mile Style.” So did you talk out the concept for that one ahead of time?
We didn’t really discuss concepts for songs, other than, like, “Um, [is he] gonna talk about drugs? [Is he] gonna talk about murdering?” It wasn’t like, “Let’s talk about how it felt on 8 mile.” That’s just where we were. That’s where we lived. We weren’t on 8 Mile because it was a cool thing to do. It was all we could afford, my man!
Where’d that beat come from?
Right before he got the script for 8 Mile, we had been messing around with a little bit of a groove. Just in all that was there was some drums and a guitar line that I did. Every time we’d get together in the studio, we’d pull that out off the computer and just work on it. And we just loved it. It had a lot of really heavy distorted rock guitars originally. And then the script came in, and he wrote the lyrics. You know, the character was in place, and the flow came pretty quick. And then it made sense to remove some of those hard-rock guitars and replace it with keyboards doing virtually the same thing. And we did it, and the song was done. And we’d sit back and listen to it, and it was incredible. But even at that point, you don’t know it’s a hit record. You have no idea. Obviously, it sparked something in most people that heard that song. It makes you wanna go up and do something, and become successful at something. Makes you motivated for living.
And it won an Oscar. But neither you nor Eminem was there to receive it.
My son, my next son, had just been born. He wasn’t even a week old. And it was a tough decision for me. But [co-writer] Luis Resto said he was going out there, and I knew Marshall wasn’t gonna be there. I regret it today. I wish I would have went. I was home with my kid watching it on TV like everybody else. It’s not that I didn’t wanna go. I just chose to stay with my little man.
Was it surreal, hearing Barbra Streisand saying your name?
She pronounced it correctly. So that’s awesome. She got it right.
Was the reason Eminem wasn’t going to attend because he was already in the midst of his addiction?
Ehh. We were all dabbling. A little this, a little that. At the time, he wasn’t a big fan of award shows. He could be getting better now. Back in the day, he really wasn’t interested.
Was there a moment when you realized it had gone beyond dabbling? That it was something that required serious attention?
No. I had my own issues as well. You know, you kind of close one eye. He did his thing, I did my thing, and we came together and did our thing. I mean, if I would have noticed that, paid close enough attention to that, I would have helped myself and him at the same time. But you have to go through what you gotta go through, until you realize there’s more important things [than] doing that kind of stuff. “Beautiful” [off Relapse], that was the last song we did together. We did it while he was using, then he cleaned up and wanted to use it. I always thought that the song was an incredible song.
Is it odd to think this kid you worked with way back when is now this …Icon?
Marshall, I mean, the truth of the matter is we’re not … I still love him and everything and I’m sure he still loves me … but we don’t communicate like we used to. He told me he had to experiment with other writers, other producers. It was very fair. All artists probably do that. We could only have our vision of what he should be. Life happened. Life just moves on. It’s not like he said, “Jump! You’re fired.” It was just, “I’m gonna go in a different direction.” “Cool, I wish you the best of luck.” I can guarantee that we could sit down today and write a song, and we could still put something out that the fans would love. And maybe someday that’ll happen.
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tweeted by Crooked I, never mind he was trolling ;D
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even crook knows whatsup
yeah, that Em should have dropped an album like that or retired a decade ago lol
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Tommy Chong Talks Eminem’s Cheech & Chong-Sampling ‘Untouchable’: ‘Racism Is Ignorance and He’s a Warrior’
Cheech and Chong are best known as a 1970s-era stoner comedy act, but a song from one of their albums, “Earache My Eye,” has proved to have an unexpectedly long life. Part of a larger skit on their 1974 “Wedding Album,” the song was released as a single (credited to Alice Bowie, in a jab at the glam rock of the era) and reprised in the duo’s revered 1978 stoner full-length feature, “Up in Smoke.” Over the years the song has been covered by Soundgarden, Henry Rollins, Korn and many others — and is sampled heavily in Eminem’s furious new song, “Untouchable,” which aggressively addresses racism and race relations in the U.S. today (head here for some sample lyrics and to hear the song). Variety caught up with Tommy Chong over the phone on Friday afternoon.
I assume you’ve heard “Untouchable,” what do you think?
We’ve got our lawyers looking into it.
Really? Didn’t they clear it with you first?
Naw, I’m only joking (laughter). I love it, are you kidding? I love Eminem. I love white black guys!
Do you agree with the sentiments in the song?
Totally, you sing about what you know, and he knows it. It’s a good take. It shows you the meshing, how our cultures are getting so intertwined, they’re not so separate, and it makes us stronger, like another strand of rope around it.
That’s a pretty peaceful take on the song.
He’s a warrior, rap people are warriors. I’m more of a pacifist, I’m the old guy who says “Eh, it’s gonna be okay.” Everybody has to go through these learning things. We did a documentary about “Up in Smoke” recently, and Cheech mentioned that when we edited the movie my character said “Man” too many times so they’d have to edit them out. And I said, “Do you know where the term originated?,” and it falls in line with Eminem’s thing: I got it from black jazz musicians like Miles Davis and John Coltrane, they called each other “man” because back in the day they were called “boy” no matter how old they were — “Boy, open that door, boy, bring me this” — it was dehumanizing. So I picked it up as my character — it’s to acknowledge the racism that existed back then, and now it’s coming out and being destroyed with knowledge, and Eminem is giving you the target.
I had a conversation with some friends, “Why did Trump get elected?” and I said because he appealed to the racists. They took offense and said “Not everybody who voted for Trump is a racist!” and I said “Oh yeah, they are!” They said “But a lot of black people voted for Trump!” “Well, they’re racists.” Racism is ignorance, that’s all it is, and that’s what Eminem is pointing out. So if you voted for Trump you’re ignorant – and he’s proving my point every day.
When did Eminem’s people get in touch about using the song?
Through our publisher. We’ve been sampled before and I’ve been on a few rap albums, Dr. Dre and B-Real, so it wasn’t a stretch. We’ve got fans in all areas of the world.
What are your favorite covers of “Earache My Eye”?
I like ‘em all — Henry Rollins’ is great, Soundgarden’s is great, Korn’s is great – Cheech sang with Korn on their version. And there’s a big thank you and hug and kiss from Cheech and Chong to Eminem, we love you for it.
What are you working on these days?
We’re putting the finishing touches on a documentary on Cheech & Chong, and we’re gonna be promoting “Up in Smoke”’s 40th anniversary on blu-ray, and I’ve been talking with Paramount about doing “Still Smokin’” on blu-ray. But I’m semi-retried and I’m working on a plan to save the world with art – Cheech has his own museum of Chicano art in Riverside, and I’m working on ways to promote art and marijuana simultaneously. I wanna rehab the entire world with art! Plus, Cheech and I still do shows, we work together and we’re friends and colleagues but we have our own lives too. And in fact he has his own brand of weed – called Cheech’s Private Stash and I have my own called Chong’s Choice.
Which one is better?
Oh, Chong’s Choice, by far. Cheech’s is too Mexican.
Eminem Put On Blast By Die Antwoord For Mispronouncing Their Name On "Untouchable"
Die Antwoord weren't appreciative of the shout out on "Untouchable."
Eminem's previously explained why he chooses to deliberately skewer names and words in his raps. It's never out of malice but rather for the purpose of making words rhyme better. His ability to rhyme things that don't necessarily rhyme technically plays a factor in his legendary status. However, in his most recent song, "Untouchable," the mispronunciation of a certain group's name has received some criticisms.
RELATED: Eminem's "Untouchable" Leaves Fans Divided
Earlier today, Yolandi Visser of Die Antwoord posted a video on her Instagram putting Eminem on blast for mispronouncing the group's name. She asks how he'd feel if she mispronounced his name in the first place.
"Okay, so like, how would you feel if I called you Eeminem? Okay, your name's Eminem but I call you Eeminem, just because it rhymes with something you know," she says while Ninja sits next to her.
Ninja chimes in with a rhyme before Visser takes over and says it more clearly.
"Eeminem went to jail and got a bit of semen in his bum and was never seen again," she rapped before saying, "You know, do you see how that feels?"
The line she referred to was on the third verse of "Untouchable", where he raps, "I'd rather hear 'em say "Die N-word" than Die Antwoord/ Ninja, now that's a better disguised banter." He raps from the perspective of a black male in America during the verse.
Out of all the things Eminem has caught flack for over the course of his career, this may be the first time he got heat for mispronouncing a name
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That Untouchable song could be the worst song I've ever heard lmfao.
Jesus Christ, 2017...Chris Brown dropped a 60 track album that's awesome & Eminem about to drop top 5 worst album all time lol. Imagine hearing that in 2005.
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Just heard his new album in his entirety and I really dont like it, the pop features are just forced and single material and the rest is just as sad... I would have love to hear a dope rap album from Em again but since Recovery it's Pop and it's definitely not for me!
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That Untouchable song could be the worst song I've ever heard lmfao.
Jesus Christ, 2017...Chris Brown dropped a 60 track album that's awesome & Eminem about to drop top 5 worst album all time lol. Imagine hearing that in 2005.
I don’t know. I’m not crazy about it either, but to me it’s not worse than “Walk on Water.” I hate that song. But yeah, neither are very good.
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Just heard his new album in his entirety and I really dont like it, the pop features are just forced and single material and the rest is just as sad... I would have love to hear a dope rap album from Em again but since Recovery it's Pop and it's definitely not for me!
I take it the album has leaked then?
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people are just manipulating... it hasnt leaked yet.
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people are just manipulating... it hasnt leaked yet.
What are you talkin' about? You can even find the lyrics to all of the songs.
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people are just manipulating... it hasnt leaked yet.
What are you talkin' about? You can even find the lyrics to all of the songs.
then where is it? you think any of them didnt prefer to upload it to internet?
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people are just manipulating... it hasnt leaked yet.
What are you talkin' about? You can even find the lyrics to all of the songs.
then where is it? you think any of them didnt prefer to upload it to internet?
Use Google, my friend and you'll find the album.
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people are just manipulating... it hasnt leaked yet.
What are you talkin' about? You can even find the lyrics to all of the songs.
then where is it? you think any of them didnt prefer to upload it to internet?
Use Google, my friend and you'll find the album.
You already had it? why dont you give me a link to download it?
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people are just manipulating... it hasnt leaked yet.
What are you talkin' about? You can even find the lyrics to all of the songs.
then where is it? you think any of them didnt prefer to upload it to internet?
Use Google, my friend and you'll find the album.
You already had it? why dont you give me a link to download it?
I'm on my phone right now, but you can find it from Google.
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not buying this
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people are just manipulating... it hasnt leaked yet.
What made you think that people are "manipulating"?
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It's on Spotify already