West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Kool Beenz on August 25, 2009, 12:32:46 AM
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lets get a legitimate argument in this bitch... if were to post this in the west coast section it would just go down the drain...
i vote snoop
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Lol this shouldn't even be a question. Snoops made one classic, which to be honest is probably my favourite hip hop album of all time, but the rest of his records have been average. Jay has stayed consistant and has dropped 2 definite classics, some would argue 3 classics. Jay has a whole lot more subject matter than Snoop. Snoops been using ghost writers since his 2nd album, Jay never has. I don't think I really need to go into any more depth...
Both legends, and although I love Snoop as an artist, I've never regarded Snoop as anything great as an emcee past his 3-4 year prime...
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Jay bites his rhymes off other rappers
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Lol this shouldn't even be a question. Snoops made one classic, which to be honest is probably my favourite hip hop album of all time, but the rest of his records have been average. Jay has stayed consistant and has dropped 2 definite classics, some would argue 3 classics. Jay has a whole lot more subject matter than Snoop. Snoops been using ghost writers since his 2nd album, Jay never has. I don't think I really need to go into any more depth...
Both legends, and although I love Snoop as an artist, I've never regarded Snoop as anything great as an emcee past his 3-4 year prime...
+1
dont need to say anything else
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Snoop but Jay has more consitancy on his albums....But when both on their A game Snoop is better
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yall really think snoop aint shit cuz he from west
lyrics wise jay > snoop
flow snoop > jay
performance on stage jay > snoop
style snoop > jay
mc wise jay is more of an 'MC' than snoop
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lyrics wise jay > snoop
flow snoop > jay
performance on stage jay > snoop
style snoop > jay
I'd go with that.
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"From Tha Depths Of Tha īCī, Back On Tha Block.."
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Jay no contest.
Doggystyle >>> "insert anything of Jay's"
but Jay has the more consistant discography.
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Jay no contest.
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I definitely think Jay has the better disco is an a better MC overall
Doggystyle is better than any Jay release though
but Jay is a better rapper
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you know discography aside, if you ask me this question 4 or 5 years ago, I would probably say it is a toss up. Jay has even "borrowed" a couple lines and concepts from Snoop in the past. But really lately I would have to say Jigga. Don't get it twisted though, when Snoop puts a song out like Think About It, it makes me wonder though.
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This is 1 of those "apples to oranges" quesions. No homo, they're both fruits, both sweet, both good and good 4 you, both round, and both grow off trees. but they're just different.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4JD81uA8bE&feature=PlayList&p=1F6B1D9E815BD839&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=33
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Lol, Doggstyle is one of the dopest records ever but it is not better than Reasonable Doubt. Let's remember that Jay actually writes his shit. Snoop's flow in his prime though is untouchable.
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Doggystyle > Jay-z's entire catalogue
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Snoop wins
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Snoop wins
by one vote on a West Coast rap forum. :P
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muahahaha
fuck jayz
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DOGGY STYLE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>big ass wall>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>blueprint or reasonable doubt
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Jay no contest.
Doggystyle >>> "insert anything of Jay's"
but Jay has the more consistant discography.
agrizneed
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DOGGY STYLE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>big ass wall>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>blueprint or reasonable doubt
The fact that you compared Blueprint to Reasonable Doubt shows you're opinion doesn't matter.
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Snoop by a long mile.
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DOGGY STYLE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>big ass wall>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>blueprint or reasonable doubt
The fact that you compared Blueprint to Reasonable Doubt shows you're opinion doesn't matter.
wut the fuck you on about did i compare? dumb mothufucker???
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DOGGY STYLE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>big ass wall>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>blueprint or reasonable doubt
The fact that you compared Blueprint to Reasonable Doubt shows you're opinion doesn't matter.
wut the fuck you on about did i compare? dumb mothufucker???
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Blueprint OR Reasonable Doubt
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DOGGY STYLE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>big ass wall>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>blueprint or reasonable doubt
The fact that you compared Blueprint to Reasonable Doubt shows you're opinion doesn't matter.
wut the fuck you on about did i compare? dumb mothufucker???
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Blueprint OR Reasonable Doubt
Exactly. Look at your own post, you put blueprint up there with reasonable doubt, you "dumb mothufucker".
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easily Jay Z.
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Snoop for me. Jay has a better discography but talking stricly better rapper; Snoop has the best voice in the game, has that melodic flow and we he's hungry he's my favorite rapper. Jay on the other hand has that weak off beat/talking flow most of the time.
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ok i unlocked voting for a lil while longer
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How is Snoop winning? Doggystyle is the shit but seriously, how is he better off of one album?
discography - jay wins
lyrics - jay wins
subject matter - jay wins
flow - snoop wins
There ya go.
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please
Doggfather
No Limit Top Dogg
Tha Last Meal
Tha Eastsidaz albums
Blue Carpet Treatment
hell even Da Game is to be Sold Not Told even shits on modern hip hop albums
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damn alotta dukes sayin jay easily
IMO snoop dropped more classic soundin material
but jay has dropped some bangers
snoop is saved by the beat
jay saves the beat
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DOGGY STYLE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>big ass wall>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>blueprint or reasonable doubt
The fact that you compared Blueprint to Reasonable Doubt shows you're opinion doesn't matter.
wut the fuck you on about did i compare? dumb mothufucker???
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Blueprint OR Reasonable Doubt
Exactly. Look at your own post, you put blueprint up there with reasonable doubt, you "dumb mothufucker".
hell nah i didnt compare it
dem 2 albums r prob be the most famous jay z album
dats why i put it up there and dats not the point bitch
jst tryna say doggystyle is wayyyy better than jays shit
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Lol Snoop doesn't even write a lot of his rhymes and when he does they aren't as great. Yes doggystyle is better than any of jays but at least jay has maintained some his rapping abilities.
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DOGGY STYLE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>big ass wall>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>blueprint or reasonable doubt
The fact that you compared Blueprint to Reasonable Doubt shows you're opinion doesn't matter.
wut the fuck you on about did i compare? dumb mothufucker???
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Blueprint OR Reasonable Doubt
Exactly. Look at your own post, you put blueprint up there with reasonable doubt, you "dumb mothufucker".
dem 2 albums r prob be the most famous jay z album
dats why i put it up there
Exactly. You just follow what other people think and pick out the famous albums rather than listening to the lyrics and finding out what's hot and what's not. If you did you would niether put Blueprint beside Reasonable Doubt nor would you put Doggystyle above it.
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DOGGY STYLE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>big ass wall>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>blueprint or reasonable doubt
The fact that you compared Blueprint to Reasonable Doubt shows you're opinion doesn't matter.
wut the fuck you on about did i compare? dumb mothufucker???
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Blueprint OR Reasonable Doubt
Exactly. Look at your own post, you put blueprint up there with reasonable doubt, you "dumb mothufucker".
dem 2 albums r prob be the most famous jay z album
dats why i put it up there
Exactly. You just follow what other people think and pick out the famous albums rather than listening to the lyrics and finding out what's hot and what's not. If you did you would niether put Blueprint beside Reasonable Doubt nor would you put Doggystyle above it.
Lol im sorry dude im not a fan of jay z and plus dem 2 r prob be the only jay cd i actually bought and listend
and dont wanna go thru all them pop bullshit songs dat washed up old ass done
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I'm not really a fan of Jay any more either and I'm more than aware of all his pop songs, but I think Reasonable Doubt speaks for itself as proof his ability as an MC, and I would say it's miles ahead of all his other albums.
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If you haven't listened to both of their discographies then you shouldn't be in this discussion. I hate it when people try to pretend like they've listened to albums just to seem knowledgeable.
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Jigga has been the better rapper post the last meal era BUT when snoop hits his occasional form these days, its still better than most rappers out there. His voice is unique and so is his flow that even with his sharp high pitched voice, its got more presence than most rappers even if he aint rappin agressive.
Jigga has a much much bigger machine behind him but its actually a reasonable question about who is better. snoop is jigga of the westcoast and jigga is snoop of the eastcoast if that makes sense.
I still take snoop though, just a personal fav of mine ever since i was a kid. He might not always write his rhymes which is ashame because his best shit is usually when its him or him +doc writing but its great. As for the beat saving snoop, thats bullshit, snoop is one of the few hitmakers still alive in hiphop. Snoop will make a hit beat a hit, most would waste it.
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I prefer Snoops discovery
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I don't even like Jay that much but I'd have to say he's the better lyricist, Snoop is just more catchy and flows better.
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I dunno. Snoop IMO. Jay Z Ive always felt was overrated. You cant use "classic" albums as an argument because that has absolutely nothing to do with how good of a rapper you are.
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REAL TALK DAYGO
I dunno. Snoop IMO. Jay Z Ive always felt was overrated. You cant use "classic" albums as an argument because that has absolutely nothing to do with how good of a rapper you are.
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I dunno. Snoop IMO. Jay Z Ive always felt was overrated. You cant use "classic" albums as an argument because that has absolutely nothing to do with how good of a rapper you are.
Classics have everything to do with how good of a rapper you are. If its not about the music then what the hell are we judging?
If you compare an average lyricist who makes incredible songs and albums, to a freestyler who has lyrics for days but comes out with crappy music. The first one is the greater rapper.
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I dunno. Snoop IMO. Jay Z Ive always felt was overrated. You cant use "classic" albums as an argument because that has absolutely nothing to do with how good of a rapper you are.
Classics have everything to do with how good of a rapper you are. If its not about the music then what the hell are we judging?
If you compare an average lyricist who makes incredible songs and albums, to a freestyler who has lyrics for days but comes out with crappy music. The first one is the greater rapper.
co-sign. If you're not looking at albums then what the fuck are you looking at? An emcees ability as a complete artist is dependent on whether or not they can make a dope cohesive alub. That's why someone like Fabolous or Jadakiss, although they are dope rappers, will never be a GOAT because they simply can't make a well rounded album