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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: woof on November 21, 2008, 06:06:50 PM
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Props for this my dude.
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Props, Not was i was expecting. But its still pretty dope 8)
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thank you good sir! 8)
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that was quick
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Props for the listen.
As for the song, Budden went looking for a pop 'baby, oooh baby' single, more auto-tune overdose and added Game on this song just to raise it's profile.
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As for the song, Budden went looking for a pop 'baby, oooh baby' single, more auto-tune overdose and added Game on this song just to raise it's profile.
theres no autotune on this
and who cares if its pop, its hot
its not like joes not gonna come with what people expect of him throughout the rest of the album anyways... if you can get some sales while still keeping the music tasteful, why not?
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props
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props 8)
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People here always talking about Budden like he's gonna change the whole rap game but this is the second time he released your average club-ish single (don't remember the name of the first one, he did a video for it). No wonder rap is where it's at if everybody is doing the same shit.
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this is a grower...game culda came harder then he did...budden spits some good shit lik usuall...better then touch n go
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imo touch n go > the future.
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People here always talking about Budden like he's gonna change the whole rap game but this is the second time he released your average club-ish single (don't remember the name of the first one, he did a video for it). No wonder rap is where it's at if everybody is doing the same shit.
Are you kidding?? Meho think about what you just said.
Hip-Hop isn't with the singles, it's with the album tracks!!!
Joe Budden has already changed the game, go listen to his real songs, not his singles...
Back to the track, like R1ze said, you gotta have the mainstream single to get the world on board, and given the resources, I am definitely feeling this track.. Produced by Fyu-chur.
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People here always talking about Budden like he's gonna change the whole rap game but this is the second time he released your average club-ish single (don't remember the name of the first one, he did a video for it). No wonder rap is where it's at if everybody is doing the same shit.
Are you kidding?? Meho think about what you just said.
Hip-Hop isn't with the singles, it's with the album tracks!!!
Joe Budden has already changed the game, go listen to his real songs, not his singles...
Back to the track, like R1ze said, you gotta have the mainstream single to get the world on board, and given the resources, I am definitely feeling this track.. Produced by Fyu-chur.
Singles are a good indication of what the album will be like. Usually, a wack single= wack album. Of course you have some exceptions but they are very rare. Not to mention that singles usually have a video, which by the song subject will be yet another club/chick video, which means our tv will be filled with even more of the same shit. Not to mention that this won't blow up at all because it's just like every single out right now, which means his album will get pushed back yet again.
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People here always talking about Budden like he's gonna change the whole rap game but this is the second time he released your average club-ish single (don't remember the name of the first one, he did a video for it). No wonder rap is where it's at if everybody is doing the same shit.
Are you kidding?? Meho think about what you just said.
Hip-Hop isn't with the singles, it's with the album tracks!!!
Joe Budden has already changed the game, go listen to his real songs, not his singles...
Back to the track, like R1ze said, you gotta have the mainstream single to get the world on board, and given the resources, I am definitely feeling this track.. Produced by Fyu-chur.
Singles are a good indication of what the album will be like. Usually, a wack single= wack album. Of course you have some exceptions but they are very rare. Not to mention that singles usually have a video, which by the song subject will be yet another club/chick video, which means our tv will be filled with even more of the same shit. Not to mention that this won't blow up at all because it's just like every single out right now, which means his album will get pushed back yet again.
Rofl.. I'm sorry?? Oh yeah, cuz your music judgments are made based on production and features....
I don't remember the last time a good single came out to a good album... Maybe Kanye West - Stronger.. Usually the good albums are from the dudes who don't have the resources, or don't care to make a good mainstream tune...
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People here always talking about Budden like he's gonna change the whole rap game but this is the second time he released your average club-ish single (don't remember the name of the first one, he did a video for it). No wonder rap is where it's at if everybody is doing the same shit.
Are you kidding?? Meho think about what you just said.
Hip-Hop isn't with the singles, it's with the album tracks!!!
Joe Budden has already changed the game, go listen to his real songs, not his singles...
Back to the track, like R1ze said, you gotta have the mainstream single to get the world on board, and given the resources, I am definitely feeling this track.. Produced by Fyu-chur.
Singles are a good indication of what the album will be like. Usually, a wack single= wack album. Of course you have some exceptions but they are very rare. Not to mention that singles usually have a video, which by the song subject will be yet another club/chick video, which means our tv will be filled with even more of the same shit. Not to mention that this won't blow up at all because it's just like every single out right now, which means his album will get pushed back yet again.
Rofl.. I'm sorry?? Oh yeah, cuz your music judgments are made based on production and features....
I don't remember the last time a good single came out to a good album... Maybe Kanye West - Stronger.. Usually the good albums are from the dudes who don't have the resources, or don't care to make a good mainstream tune...
No, Meho's right... usually a single is indicative of an album's quality.
Budden is an exception, though, since the album isn't gonna be filled with this kind of music. It was the same thing with the Nas album.. Hero was the only track of its kind on there (except maybe money make the world go round... okay fuck it, two), but it had to be made to get radioplay. If an albums gonna be mostly car/club music and the singles wack, then yeah, you can expect the album to be wack too. But if the albums gonna be different, then you get into this kind of situation.
The point is these kinds of rappers feel the pressure to make this kind of music in an attempt to get sales... so if they fail it shouldnt be a big deal to the core fanbase - they knew this music wasnt for them. You give and you take, right?
this song worked for me tho, so I don't mind. Even though... its not budden that makes me turn this song on. It's the hook and game.
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This track is nice.
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People here always talking about Budden like he's gonna change the whole rap game but this is the second time he released your average club-ish single (don't remember the name of the first one, he did a video for it). No wonder rap is where it's at if everybody is doing the same shit.
Are you kidding?? Meho think about what you just said.
Hip-Hop isn't with the singles, it's with the album tracks!!!
Joe Budden has already changed the game, go listen to his real songs, not his singles...
Back to the track, like R1ze said, you gotta have the mainstream single to get the world on board, and given the resources, I am definitely feeling this track.. Produced by Fyu-chur.
Singles are a good indication of what the album will be like. Usually, a wack single= wack album. Of course you have some exceptions but they are very rare. Not to mention that singles usually have a video, which by the song subject will be yet another club/chick video, which means our tv will be filled with even more of the same shit. Not to mention that this won't blow up at all because it's just like every single out right now, which means his album will get pushed back yet again.
Rofl.. I'm sorry?? Oh yeah, cuz your music judgments are made based on production and features....
I don't remember the last time a good single came out to a good album... Maybe Kanye West - Stronger.. Usually the good albums are from the dudes who don't have the resources, or don't care to make a good mainstream tune...
No, Meho's right... usually a single is indicative of an album's quality.
Budden is an exception, though, since the album isn't gonna be filled with this kind of music. It was the same thing with the Nas album.. Hero was the only track of its kind on there (except maybe money make the world go round... okay fuck it, two), but it had to be made to get radioplay.
Same thing here -these kinds of rappers have to make something different to attempt to get the sales... so if they fail its not really a big deal.
and this song worked for me, so I don't mind. Even though... its not budden that makes me turn this song on. It's the hook and game.
Omg are you guys serious?? Nas and Budden are the only two you say?? I'm gonna have to name names I guess.
Albums where the single wasn't a smash mainstream epic-produced song, but the album was banging:
Q-Tip - The Renaissance
Atmosphere - When Life Gives You Lemons
88 Keys
Little Brother (almost every album)
Jedi Mind Tricks
Planet Asia - Pain Language
Sway - The Signature LP
Joe Budden (all except for self-titled
Statik Selektah's albums
just some recent releases i could think of..
AKA: GOOD HIP-HOP
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People here always talking about Budden like he's gonna change the whole rap game but this is the second time he released your average club-ish single (don't remember the name of the first one, he did a video for it). No wonder rap is where it's at if everybody is doing the same shit.
Are you kidding?? Meho think about what you just said.
Hip-Hop isn't with the singles, it's with the album tracks!!!
Joe Budden has already changed the game, go listen to his real songs, not his singles...
Back to the track, like R1ze said, you gotta have the mainstream single to get the world on board, and given the resources, I am definitely feeling this track.. Produced by Fyu-chur.
Singles are a good indication of what the album will be like. Usually, a wack single= wack album. Of course you have some exceptions but they are very rare. Not to mention that singles usually have a video, which by the song subject will be yet another club/chick video, which means our tv will be filled with even more of the same shit. Not to mention that this won't blow up at all because it's just like every single out right now, which means his album will get pushed back yet again.
Rofl.. I'm sorry?? Oh yeah, cuz your music judgments are made based on production and features....
I don't remember the last time a good single came out to a good album... Maybe Kanye West - Stronger.. Usually the good albums are from the dudes who don't have the resources, or don't care to make a good mainstream tune...
No, Meho's right... usually a single is indicative of an album's quality.
Budden is an exception, though, since the album isn't gonna be filled with this kind of music. It was the same thing with the Nas album.. Hero was the only track of its kind on there (except maybe money make the world go round... okay fuck it, two), but it had to be made to get radioplay. If an albums gonna be mostly car/club music and the singles wack, then yeah, you can expect the album to be wack too. But if the albums gonna be different, then you get into this kind of situation.
The point is these kinds of rappers feel the pressure to make this kind of music in an attempt to get sales... so if they fail it shouldnt be a big deal to the core fanbase - they knew this music wasnt for them. You give and you take, right?
this song worked for me tho, so I don't mind. Even though... its not budden that makes me turn this song on. It's the hook and game.
Omg are you guys serious?? Nas and Budden are the only two you say?? I'm gonna have to name names I guess.
Albums where the single wasn't a smash mainstream epic-produced song, but the album was banging:
Q-Tip - The Renaissance
Atmosphere - When Life Gives You Lemons
88 Keys
Little Brother (almost every album)
Jedi Mind Tricks
Planet Asia - Pain Language
Sway - The Signature LP
Joe Budden (all except for self-titled
Statik Selektah's albums
just some recent releases i could think of..
AKA: GOOD HIP-HOP
nah, i never meant they were the only two. I just meant these guys are the exception when it comes to hip-hop, since they're mainstream but still struggle to sell/get played. I was just too lazy to list all those ^
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People here always talking about Budden like he's gonna change the whole rap game but this is the second time he released your average club-ish single (don't remember the name of the first one, he did a video for it). No wonder rap is where it's at if everybody is doing the same shit.
Are you kidding?? Meho think about what you just said.
Hip-Hop isn't with the singles, it's with the album tracks!!!
Joe Budden has already changed the game, go listen to his real songs, not his singles...
Back to the track, like R1ze said, you gotta have the mainstream single to get the world on board, and given the resources, I am definitely feeling this track.. Produced by Fyu-chur.
Singles are a good indication of what the album will be like. Usually, a wack single= wack album. Of course you have some exceptions but they are very rare. Not to mention that singles usually have a video, which by the song subject will be yet another club/chick video, which means our tv will be filled with even more of the same shit. Not to mention that this won't blow up at all because it's just like every single out right now, which means his album will get pushed back yet again.
Rofl.. I'm sorry?? Oh yeah, cuz your music judgments are made based on production and features....
I don't remember the last time a good single came out to a good album... Maybe Kanye West - Stronger.. Usually the good albums are from the dudes who don't have the resources, or don't care to make a good mainstream tune...
No, Meho's right... usually a single is indicative of an album's quality.
Budden is an exception, though, since the album isn't gonna be filled with this kind of music. It was the same thing with the Nas album.. Hero was the only track of its kind on there (except maybe money make the world go round... okay fuck it, two), but it had to be made to get radioplay. If an albums gonna be mostly car/club music and the singles wack, then yeah, you can expect the album to be wack too. But if the albums gonna be different, then you get into this kind of situation.
The point is these kinds of rappers feel the pressure to make this kind of music in an attempt to get sales... so if they fail it shouldnt be a big deal to the core fanbase - they knew this music wasnt for them. You give and you take, right?
this song worked for me tho, so I don't mind. Even though... its not budden that makes me turn this song on. It's the hook and game.
Omg are you guys serious?? Nas and Budden are the only two you say?? I'm gonna have to name names I guess.
Albums where the single wasn't a smash mainstream epic-produced song, but the album was banging:
Q-Tip - The Renaissance
Atmosphere - When Life Gives You Lemons
88 Keys
Little Brother (almost every album)
Jedi Mind Tricks
Planet Asia - Pain Language
Sway - The Signature LP
Joe Budden (all except for self-titled
Statik Selektah's albums
just some recent releases i could think of..
AKA: GOOD HIP-HOP
nah, i never meant they were the only two. I just meant these guys are the exception when it comes to hip-hop, since they're mainstream but still struggle to sell/get played. I was just too lazy to list all those ^
Well, I'm just trying to say, for alot of the artists I listen to, the single is usually the song that I would least listen to.. And even for mainstream artists, there's usually way better songs on the rest of the album than the single.. For any kinda artist, the single is the one that appeals to the "generic fan" right? Everyone is trying to get paid... I often find that the artists who make good singles have lackluster albums cuz they aren't good with substance.. And the good artists struggle to make a successful single, but the rest of the album is banging..
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this shit iz wack.
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Meho is way off here and Leak is right like usual 8)
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Nah, you 2 are just saying that because you are big Budden fans, so you're not the most objective posters about this. A single is an indication of a good album, that may as well be different for undeground rappers that you named but still. Maybe I'm just so pissed because you've got the wack rappers doing the same singles, the average rappers doing the same singles and the dope rappers doing the same singles. And because of that hip-hop nowadays has no balance.
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I'm feelin' this one 8)
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this is pretty hot for a pop-ish record
i disagree meho..many mainstream artists dropped wack ass singles this year and then good albums - T.I., Nas, Luda are 3 that instantly come to mind..Joe Budden's album is not going to be filled with "touch & go" and "the future"
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many mainstream artists dropped wack ass singles this year and then good albums - Nas
you didn't like "Hero"?
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many mainstream artists dropped wack ass singles this year and then good albums - Nas
you didn't like "Hero"?
it was alright; money make the world go round was avg as well..both weren't horrible, but aren't what im lookin for in nas..
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many mainstream artists dropped wack ass singles this year and then good albums - Nas
you didn't like "Hero"?
it was alright; money make the world go round was avg as well..both weren't horrible, but aren't what im lookin for in nas..
ahh.. gotcha 8)
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I love Hero and I love Untiteld. T.I. and Luda's album are both alright, nothing special or even close to being a classic. Let's not forget that a wack single is already 1 track that you skip on the cd. And I can understand when rappers on a major label have poppy singles, they are most likely forced by the label execs, especially in these times. I don't understand when artist that are on an independant label do it, which leads me again to no balance in rap music lately.
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I love Hero and I love Untiteld. T.I. and Luda's album are both alright, nothing special or even close to being a classic. Let's not forget that a wack single is already 1 track that you skip on the cd. And I can understand when rappers on a major label have poppy singles, they are most likely forced by the label execs, especially in these times. I don't understand when artist that are on an independant label do it, which leads me again to no balance in rap music lately.
Did u love "money make the world go round?" their albums may be alright, but "whatever u like" and "what them girls like" are far from alright songs; there trash..I understand what u saying though at the end there..
my point is just u can bet cha' ass budden album won't be tracks like this..i wouldn't be surprised actually if "touch & go" is pulled from the album..
Budden's album will be some great shit..his Mood Muzik series is the business..
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People here always talking about Budden like he's gonna change the whole rap game but this is the second time he released your average club-ish single (don't remember the name of the first one, he did a video for it). No wonder rap is where it's at if everybody is doing the same shit.
Are you kidding?? Meho think about what you just said.
Hip-Hop isn't with the singles, it's with the album tracks!!!
Joe Budden has already changed the game, go listen to his real songs, not his singles...
Back to the track, like R1ze said, you gotta have the mainstream single to get the world on board, and given the resources, I am definitely feeling this track.. Produced by Fyu-chur.
Singles are a good indication of what the album will be like. Usually, a wack single= wack album. Of course you have some exceptions but they are very rare. Not to mention that singles usually have a video, which by the song subject will be yet another club/chick video, which means our tv will be filled with even more of the same shit. Not to mention that this won't blow up at all because it's just like every single out right now, which means his album will get pushed back yet again.
that is true.
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I love Hero and I love Untiteld. T.I. and Luda's album are both alright, nothing special or even close to being a classic. Let's not forget that a wack single is already 1 track that you skip on the cd. And I can understand when rappers on a major label have poppy singles, they are most likely forced by the label execs, especially in these times. I don't understand when artist that are on an independant label do it, which leads me again to no balance in rap music lately.
Did u love "money make the world go round?" their albums may be alright, but "whatever u like" and "what them girls like" are far from alright songs; there trash..I understand what u saying though at the end there..
my point is just u can bet cha' ass budden album won't be tracks like this..i wouldn't be surprised actually if "touch & go" is pulled from the album..
Budden's album will be some great shit..his Mood Muzik series is the business..
touch and go is pulled from the album
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finally i get to put an ear on the tracc.. sounds good.. i feel this! Joe Budden & The Game sounds tight together..!
the hook is fuckin my brain..!
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I love Hero and I love Untiteld. T.I. and Luda's album are both alright, nothing special or even close to being a classic. Let's not forget that a wack single is already 1 track that you skip on the cd. And I can understand when rappers on a major label have poppy singles, they are most likely forced by the label execs, especially in these times. I don't understand when artist that are on an independant label do it, which leads me again to no balance in rap music lately.
Did u love "money make the world go round?" their albums may be alright, but "whatever u like" and "what them girls like" are far from alright songs; there trash..I understand what u saying though at the end there..
my point is just u can bet cha' ass budden album won't be tracks like this..i wouldn't be surprised actually if "touch & go" is pulled from the album..
Budden's album will be some great shit..his Mood Muzik series is the business..
touch and go is pulled from the album
well there u have it..
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fuck his album, gimme a Slaughterhouse album. :P
song is cool, im not a big fan of the hook though. should have been better concidering its Game & Jumpoff, imo.
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Is this out in dirty?
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I love Hero and I love Untiteld. T.I. and Luda's album are both alright, nothing special or even close to being a classic. Let's not forget that a wack single is already 1 track that you skip on the cd. And I can understand when rappers on a major label have poppy singles, they are most likely forced by the label execs, especially in these times. I don't understand when artist that are on an independant label do it, which leads me again to no balance in rap music lately.
Exactly. You just proved your point. Did you think one of Luda's or T.I.'s singles were good? (I admit I thought Live Your Life was a universal record, liked it). But then their albums were whack as hell (imo)...
And as far as the indie artists doing it. U gotta know one thing about the music industry.. It doesn't matter if you were lucky enough to get on a major, or you have to settle for or you wanted to take the route of an indie, at the end of the day you're still making a living and you still gotta sell records. The mainstream single is something that has to be tryed, and labels won't let you do otherwise most of the time..
And this isn't biased, it's not favoring underground artists opposed to mainstream artists.. It's just that if you actually start to listen to Hip-Hop for substance and lyrics, you are going to find out that's the area you end up in most of the time...
Meho I can tell by the threads you post in, you listen to artists for features and production, and popularity. I never see you posting in threads with artists who are conscience, lyrical, etc... So don't try to pull this shit...
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You're way off with the last paragraph. One of my favourite cd's from this year have been from Black Milk, Q-Tip, Royce Da9'5 mixtape, Elzhi... I've been actually really feeling the whole Detroit underground rap scene. I didn't even like any mainstream album this year other than Nas. So don't tell me what I listen to. Especially when I make a thread about Black Milk's album leaking and it gets 3 replys but when I make a thread about Luda or Kanye's album leaking it gets 5 pages, so how is that my fault.
As far as production, yeah I do care about that but that's because I'm a really big intrumental fan and what not... don't know where you're getting that shit from features, if anything, I've always said that this new trend of "rapper + friends" albums are fucking up the game. I might have been like that 2 years ago when I was just getting into the rap scene but I've done my homework since then and it's no surpise that I'm leaning towards underground/independant rap more and more.
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Alright, props. Good discussion.
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and Joe Budden ain't as independent in my opinion as most are..seems to me that his label is going to be a 'major' independent..like a koch..type of independent that gets u on bet/mtv/etc.