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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: GangstaBoogy on June 18, 2007, 07:53:59 PM
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Just saw this one another forums. I've heard people say MJ was a dickhead with his teammates but early M.J. was before my time so this is fairly new to me...
"I'll let them stand up and take responsibility for themselves."
"They've got no idea what it's all about. The white guys, they work hard, but they don't have the talent. And the rest of them? Who knows what to expect? They're not good for much of anything."
"We have to do some things. We need to make some changes."
"...I call them 'the Looney Tunes.' Physically, they were the best. Mentally, they weren't even close."
"He's scared. He's got no heart...Nobody told me that. If I had spoken up, he wouldn't have been here."
"I know I can recognize what to do, but I'm not sure they can."
"It's a hell of a lot easier to make Earl Monroe look good than it is Brad Sellers."
"I hope there's a jumpshot in there." - Michael to Stacey King who was walking into the locker room with a box
"They don't need a ticket to watch you sitting on the bench. They can go to your house for that." - Michael to Charles Davis who was sorting through his tickets for his family and friends
"Give me the ******* ball." - Michael to Doug Collins who drew up a play for Dave Corzine
"I hate when I have to read that in the papers the next day, that I couldn't do something. It wasn't my fault."
"You're an idiot. You've screwed up every play we ever ran. You're too stupid to even remember the plays. We ought to get rid of you." - Michael to Horace Grant
"I hate being out there with those garbagemen. They don't get you the ball."
"If you [pass the ball to Bill Cartwright], you'll never get the ball from me."
"We're not winning because of talent. We're just beating bad teams."
"Headache tonight, Scottie?" - Michael asks Scottie, while showing him his 2-for-16 line
"It's probably a twelve-day. He needs two days to wake up." - Michael on a ten-day contract teammate
"Five more years and I'm out of here. I'm marking these days on a calendar, like I'm in jail. I'm tired of being used by this organization, by the league, by the writers, by everyone."
"They're not interested in winning. They just want to sell tickets, which they can do because of me. They won't make any deals to make us better. And this Kukoc thing. I hate that. They're spending all their time chasing this guy."
"If I were a general manager, we'd be a better team."
"He can't do anything with the ball. Don't give it to him." - Michael yelling at Paxson who passed the ball to Perdue
"We're beating a lot of poor teams. So what? We won a lot of games last year, too. Will Horace and Bill still be playing at this level in the playoffs...Can Pip keep it up?"
"I know what's gonna happen. We'll wait until the last minute and then they'll say something like they couldn't get a deal done because of the cap or somebody pulled out at the last minute. It happens here all the time. I don't know why I'm surprised every year."
"You ever hear of a guy, six-eleven maybe and two hundred sixty pounds, a guy big and fat like that and he can't get but two rebounds, if that many, running all over the damn court and he gets two rebounds? Big guy like that and he gets one rebound. Can't even stick his ass into people and get more than that...Big, fat, fat guy. One rebound in three games. Power forward. Maybe they should call it powerless forward." - Michael ripping Stacey King a new one
"He was scared in there and panicking. He just lost it when Stockton scored." - Michael on B.J. Armstrong's mental fragility
"Will Vanderbilt. He doesn't deserve to be named after a Big Ten school." - Michael on Will Perdue
"I want to prove the critics wrong...I want to see some serious moves from management, which I really haven't seen that much of yet, and I want to see more serious attitudes from my teammates this year when it comes to the playoffs. In the past, it's been more or less a joking thing, sort of a 'Well, we're here, so let's have a good time.'"
"I'm sure everything will be fine if we win, but if we start losing, I'm shooting."
"I know what I would do if I were coach. I'd determine our strengths and weaknesses and utilize them. And it's pretty clear what our strength is."
"Your boy doesn't want to play. I'm tired of bailing his ass out." - Michael yelling at Jim Cleamons about Dennis Hopson
"I don't know about trading a 24 year-old guy for a 34 year-old guy." - Michael questioning the Oakley trade
"He's causing me too many turnovers." - Michael on Cartwright's inability to catch
"Why the hell don't you ever set a pick like that in a game?" - Michael yelling at Perdue after also hitting Perdue upside his head (led to the institution of the private curtain for practices)
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on the real, a lot of those quotes look made up. mj really was a dick a lotta times tho
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Not sure if all the quotes are legit, but some of them definitely are, especially the ones about Cartwirght, as Jordan was pissed that they traded a young Oakley, his best friend at the time, for an aging Cartwright.
Jordan was an asshole, no doubt about it. One quote I will always remember is from Jordan to Bill WEnnington after one of the Bulls title wins:
"What the fuck are you crying for? I'm the one who won it for us!"
To me, that quote kills anything you posted, that shit is ruthless.
Still, Jordan is by far the best player ever. I don't pretend to know players like NIK does, i just like players based on their play on the court, and Jordan was SICK. plus his first title run is what got me into bball, kinda like the Chronic got me into hiphop!
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And for the record, some of those quotes ARE fake, and likely made up by some Kobe fan trying to defend Kobe by showing that Jordan was an asshole too, so its alright for Kobe to be one as well.
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^ you might be right. I found those quotes on lakersground.net in a thread pretty much about what you said.
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Alot of those look fake, but he did have his share of dickhead moments
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its a known fact that jordan was an asshole. i dont know if u guys remember but when Mj was making his return to the wizards the first time something popped off with him and artest during a pickup game. the end result was jordan gettin hurt and delaying his return my about a month if i remember correctly
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haha, i had a good laugh
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lmao, didn't know kobe fans had such good humor
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remember when it was said jordan punched kerr in the face?
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its a known fact that jordan was an asshole. i dont know if u guys remember but when Mj was making his return to the wizards the first time something popped off with him and artest during a pickup game. the end result was jordan gettin hurt and delaying his return my about a month if i remember correctly
Actually, Artest was d-ing up Jordan and caught him with an unintentional elbow to the ribs. Nobody is stupid enough to intentionally try to hurt MJ in a pickup game, not even Artest.
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LMFAO@all these Jordan dicklickers thinking these quotes are fake.
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Anyways, anyone who knows shit about basketball will understand that Jordan was a FIERCE competitor who was known as an asshole with a crazy edge by those close to him...I don't expect most of the people on this board to understand this (especially seeing as most of you didn't even watch basketball at the time), but no, Jordan was never the guy he was painted out to be by the media...The fact that some of the people here think these quotes are fake show me how much they really "know" about Jordan...And the funny thing is, these are the same people who criticize Kobe for being an "asshole" and a "bad teammate"...LMFAO.
Some more famous MJ quotes:
"I know they're into this de-Michaelization, so I've just got to get mine now."
"Wait until he gets an elbow in the face from Laimbeer. He won't be going to the basket again. I know he looks good, but that's against college players. He has no idea what the NBA is all about." - Michael on Kukoc
"How am I supposed to be the principal ball deliverer and the main scorer?"
"I thought of myself first, the team second. I always wanted my teams to be successful. But I wanted to be the main cause."
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And for all you clueless fucks, all those quotes are in the book "The Jordan Rules" by Sam Smith...
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LMAO
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And for all you clueless fucks, all those quotes are in the book "The Jordan Rules" by Sam Smith...
Lol damn you just put the clamps on this conversation.
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sounds like Nik has a lot of heat under the hood today
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And for all you clueless fucks, all those quotes are in the book "The Jordan Rules" by Sam Smith...
Lol damn you just put the clamps on this conversation.
It's disgusting what people will claim to defend Jordan/bash Kobe...:grumpy:
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I know Kobe has his share of quotes, but not nearly as many as Jordan. One of my favorite Kobe quotes went something like this when they asked him if he trusted his teammates with the ball "Yeah I trust my teammates, I just trust myself more."
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I guess some of y'all never had that primadonna superstar at your high school or college, who KNEW he was too good. I was actually talkin about it yesterday...there are a lot of superstars who are more "Tim Duncan" and "Marvin Harrison" who are the best of the best, but don't have a hint of cockiness off the field/court, and they are very humble and modest. However, most of the best of the best have some sort of cockiness or ego to them that will annoy the fuck out of most people. Some of them may be funny or more cool than others, such as how Shaq used to be, but some of them are out to prove how dope they are, and how dope you're not.
And overall....the NBA corporate loves to push "team unity" and all that because that's best in college and high/middle school...but truth is, they know that the stars will be cocky assholes...they just don't want the media to portray their favorite stars as that because it makes them lose some appeal. Jordan wouldn't have been half as big if the news reported all the shit he said every day back then, versus just showing the highlights of him dunking on people hard.
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Jordan wouldn't have been half as big if the news reported all the shit he said every day back then, versus just showing the highlights of him dunking on people hard.
Yup...Too bad they can't keep the same mindstate with Kobe though. :-X
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Jordan was never accused of raping a bitch though
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Jordan was never accused of raping a bitch though
Lucky guy...
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Jordan was never accused of raping a bitch though
Lucky guy...
Yeah, I mean everyone knows that is when Kobe faced a complete 180 when it came to media coverage and all else. For those who really remember, before that summer of 03, 90% of the fans and media seemed to favor Kobe over Shaq. Even at my college....most of the people out here, in Florida at that, seemed to HATE Shaq and would say "Kobe is better"....but as soon as the rape case, then Shaq trade happened, it seemed like they all jumped on the Heat bandwagon that they forgot about since Tim Hardaway left, and they seem to all hate Kobe out here.
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I remember hearing that Jordan said some shit to Cartwright in practice
and Bill took him aside and said if he pulled some shit like that again he'd break his legs so bad he wouldn't be able to play anymore lol
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Jordan was the best. He knew he was the best, and he had no tolerance for people fucking up. And there was never any doubt who the top dog was on the Bulls. If he pulled this shit and was a loser, he would have gotten his ass beat time and time again. People knew he was the shit and fell in line.
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sounds like Nik has a lot of heat under the hood today
I'd be pissed too if all my jerseys were about to be throwbacks.
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sounds like Nik has a lot of heat under the hood today
I'd be pissed too if all my jerseys were about to be throwbacks.
LMAO!
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LMAO@Jordan not losing. :-X
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LMAO@Jordan not losing. :-X
What did he lose?
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He lost in more seasons than he won in. ::)
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He lost in more seasons than he won in. ::)
Jordan never lost in the Finals.
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Okay? There were times he wasn't even good enough to reach the finals...
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Okay? There were times he wasn't even good enough to reach the finals...
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Kobe plays similar to Jordan, is an asshole like Jordan, but he has yet to lead a team to 6 titles like Jordan, so until then there is no comparison. All these Kobe fans are somehow trying to justify Kobe's bitching by saying Jordan was an asshole too! Who the fuck cares about Jordan, Kobe is Kobe, not Jordan not matter how much he wants it; dude even wants to get traded to Chicago!!!
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At least Jordan could lead his team to playoff series wins by himself...
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LMAO@Jordan not losing. :-X
LMAO@ Kobe losing.
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At least Jordan could lead his team to playoff series wins by himself...
Great. Very smart. Let's just pretend that he didn't have a reliable consistent teammate in Scottie Pippen who averaged 18 points, 6 rebounds, 5 assists, and close to 2 steals his entire time in Chicago.
I don't want this to turn into another Kobe/Jordan debate, but let me see Jordan beat the 2006 Phoenix Suns with Kwame Brown and Smush Parker in his starting line-up.
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I'm still laughing at that fuck calling Jordan a loser.
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Okay? There were times he wasn't even good enough to reach the finals...
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Kobe plays similar to Jordan, is an asshole like Jordan, but he has yet to lead a team to 6 titles like Jordan, so until then there is no comparison. All these Kobe fans are somehow trying to justify Kobe's bitching by saying Jordan was an asshole too! Who the fuck cares about Jordan, Kobe is Kobe, not Jordan not matter how much he wants it; dude even wants to get traded to Chicago!!!
Jordan, unlike Kobe, had the chance to lead a great team built to win...
Kobe's skill>Jordan's skill. Now give Kobe a team, and by the next 10 years he will be known as the GOAT...PeACe
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I'm still laughing at that fuck calling Jordan a loser.
Nobody called Jordan a loser, shithead. But it's a FACT that Jordan lost more than Kobe as of now...PeACe
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At least Jordan could lead his team to playoff series wins by himself...
Great. Very smart. Let's just pretend that he didn't have a reliable consistent teammate in Scottie Pippen who averaged 18 points, 6 rebounds, 5 assists, and close to 2 steals his entire time in Chicago.
I don't want this to turn into another Kobe/Jordan debate, but let me see Jordan beat the 2006 Phoenix Suns with Kwame Brown and Smush Parker in his starting line-up.
LMAO. You know you're in trouble when BabyG is calling out your intelligence. :-X
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I'm still laughing at that fuck calling Jordan a loser.
Nobody called Jordan a loser, shithead. But it's a FACT that Jordan lost more than Kobe as of now...PeACe
WOW! Just when you've started to make some sense, you drop something like above!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You do realize Jordan LEAD his team to SIX TITLES; Kobe has his work cut out for him. Jordan started his career with a shitty team, and stuck with that team until they were great. Kobe, on the other hand, was put in a place where he had the most dominant player in the league on his side, with a franchise that has always had success.
Of course Jordan was going to lose a lot early in his career, but he also won alot, and never lost a finals. Aside from comeback number three, dude ONLY LOST ONE SERIES in 7 seasons. So shut the fuck up
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I'm still laughing at that fuck calling Jordan a loser.
Nobody called Jordan a loser, shithead. But it's a FACT that Jordan lost more than Kobe as of now...PeACe
WOW! Just when you've started to make some sense, you drop something like above!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You do realize Jordan LEAD his team to SIX TITLES; Kobe has his work cut out for him. Jordan started his career with a shitty team, and stuck with that team until they were great. Kobe, on the other hand, was put in a place where he had the most dominant player in the league on his side, with a franchise that has always had success.
Of course Jordan was going to lose a lot early in his career, but he also won alot, and never lost a finals. Aside from comeback number three, dude ONLY LOST ONE SERIES in 7 seasons. So shut the fuck up
Huh? Jordan only lost one series? WTF are you smoking? What I said was true...Jordan only started winning when he got some major help. What doesn't make sense about that? Kobe worked for what he had as well...LMAO@your outrageous claims. Kobe was a rookie playing behind an up-and-coming all-star and fan favorite, Eddie Jones, getting limitted playing time...He worked his way to the top, and Lakers only won when Kobe became a superstar....Jordan couldn't lead a team to a record above .500 until his 4th season. Kobe has only played 3 seasons without Shaq, and without nearly as much talent as Jordan had...People like to taint shit and make it seem like while Jordan was the greatest thing to happen to sports, Kobe is the anti-Christ...All I'm saying is that they're WAY too alike for people to claim Jordan was great in one breath, and discredit Kobe in another...It's just not right...PeACe
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Kobe finally realized what we all have known, the Lakers suck.
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I'm still laughing at that fuck calling Jordan a loser.
Nobody called Jordan a loser, shithead. But it's a FACT that Jordan lost more than Kobe as of now...PeACe
WOW! Just when you've started to make some sense, you drop something like above!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You do realize Jordan LEAD his team to SIX TITLES; Kobe has his work cut out for him. Jordan started his career with a shitty team, and stuck with that team until they were great. Kobe, on the other hand, was put in a place where he had the most dominant player in the league on his side, with a franchise that has always had success.
Of course Jordan was going to lose a lot early in his career, but he also won alot, and never lost a finals. Aside from comeback number three, dude ONLY LOST ONE SERIES in 7 seasons. So shut the fuck up
Huh? Jordan only lost one series? WTF are you smoking? What I said was true...Jordan only started winning when he got some major help. What doesn't make sense about that? Kobe worked for what he had as well...LMAO@your outrageous claims. Kobe was a rookie playing behind an up-and-coming all-star and fan favorite, Eddie Jones, getting limitted playing time...He worked his way to the top, and Lakers only won when Kobe became a superstar....Jordan couldn't lead a team to a record above .500 until his 4th season. Kobe has only played 3 seasons without Shaq, and without nearly as much talent as Jordan had...People like to taint shit and make it seem like while Jordan was the greatest thing to happen to sports, Kobe is the anti-Christ...All I'm saying is that they're WAY too alike for people to claim Jordan was great in one breath, and discredit Kobe in another...It's just not right...PeACe
You are right NIK, they are so damn similar it is scary. Kobe still has time to prove the naysayers; peeps weren't feeling Jordan until he started winning on his own either. Kobe has at least as much talent as MJ, so it COULD happen, but he would have to mature a whole heck of a lot soon.
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^^It's a lot harder to see the similarities when the media is against you...Kobe never got the infamous Jordan treatment. Even you can't deny this.
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At least Jordan could lead his team to playoff series wins by himself...
Great. Very smart. Let's just pretend that he didn't have a reliable consistent teammate in Scottie Pippen who averaged 18 points, 6 rebounds, 5 assists, and close to 2 steals his entire time in Chicago.
I don't want this to turn into another Kobe/Jordan debate, but let me see Jordan beat the 2006 Phoenix Suns with Kwame Brown and Smush Parker in his starting line-up.
LMAO. You know you're in trouble when BabyG is calling out your intelligence. :-X
fuck you and fuck the hell off
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I'm still laughing at that fuck calling Jordan a loser.
Nobody called Jordan a loser, shithead. But it's a FACT that Jordan lost more than Kobe as of now...PeACe
WOW! Just when you've started to make some sense, you drop something like above!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You do realize Jordan LEAD his team to SIX TITLES; Kobe has his work cut out for him. Jordan started his career with a shitty team, and stuck with that team until they were great. Kobe, on the other hand, was put in a place where he had the most dominant player in the league on his side, with a franchise that has always had success.
Of course Jordan was going to lose a lot early in his career, but he also won alot, and never lost a finals. Aside from comeback number three, dude ONLY LOST ONE SERIES in 7 seasons. So shut the fuck up
Huh? Jordan only lost one series? WTF are you smoking? What I said was true...Jordan only started winning when he got some major help. What doesn't make sense about that? Kobe worked for what he had as well...LMAO@your outrageous claims. Kobe was a rookie playing behind an up-and-coming all-star and fan favorite, Eddie Jones, getting limitted playing time...He worked his way to the top, and Lakers only won when Kobe became a superstar....Jordan couldn't lead a team to a record above .500 until his 4th season. Kobe has only played 3 seasons without Shaq, and without nearly as much talent as Jordan had...People like to taint shit and make it seem like while Jordan was the greatest thing to happen to sports, Kobe is the anti-Christ...All I'm saying is that they're WAY too alike for people to claim Jordan was great in one breath, and discredit Kobe in another...It's just not right...PeACe
You are right NIK, they are so damn similar it is scary. Kobe still has time to prove the naysayers; peeps weren't feeling Jordan until he started winning on his own either. Kobe has at least as much talent as MJ, so it COULD happen, but he would have to mature a whole heck of a lot soon.
But Kobe was already 8 years pro and had won 3 rings before he took had to take control of the team, Jordan took control as a rookie, if Kobe took control of the team as a rookie it would have tooken just as long for him to lead the team to an above .500 record or achieve playoff success
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I'm still laughing at that fuck calling Jordan a loser.
Nobody called Jordan a loser, shithead. But it's a FACT that Jordan lost more than Kobe as of now...PeACe
WOW! Just when you've started to make some sense, you drop something like above!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You do realize Jordan LEAD his team to SIX TITLES; Kobe has his work cut out for him. Jordan started his career with a shitty team, and stuck with that team until they were great. Kobe, on the other hand, was put in a place where he had the most dominant player in the league on his side, with a franchise that has always had success.
Of course Jordan was going to lose a lot early in his career, but he also won alot, and never lost a finals. Aside from comeback number three, dude ONLY LOST ONE SERIES in 7 seasons. So shut the fuck up
Huh? Jordan only lost one series? WTF are you smoking? What I said was true...Jordan only started winning when he got some major help. What doesn't make sense about that? Kobe worked for what he had as well...LMAO@your outrageous claims. Kobe was a rookie playing behind an up-and-coming all-star and fan favorite, Eddie Jones, getting limitted playing time...He worked his way to the top, and Lakers only won when Kobe became a superstar....Jordan couldn't lead a team to a record above .500 until his 4th season. Kobe has only played 3 seasons without Shaq, and without nearly as much talent as Jordan had...People like to taint shit and make it seem like while Jordan was the greatest thing to happen to sports, Kobe is the anti-Christ...All I'm saying is that they're WAY too alike for people to claim Jordan was great in one breath, and discredit Kobe in another...It's just not right...PeACe
You are right NIK, they are so damn similar it is scary. Kobe still has time to prove the naysayers; peeps weren't feeling Jordan until he started winning on his own either. Kobe has at least as much talent as MJ, so it COULD happen, but he would have to mature a whole heck of a lot soon.
But Kobe was already 8 years pro and had won 3 rings before he took had to take control of the team, Jordan took control as a rookie, if Kobe took control of the team as a rookie it would have tooken just as long for him to lead the team to an above .500 record or achieve playoff success
How do you know? Jordan never had to play on a team as bad (and battered) as the Lakers.
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I'm still laughing at that fuck calling Jordan a loser.
Nobody called Jordan a loser, shithead. But it's a FACT that Jordan lost more than Kobe as of now...PeACe
WOW! Just when you've started to make some sense, you drop something like above!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You do realize Jordan LEAD his team to SIX TITLES; Kobe has his work cut out for him. Jordan started his career with a shitty team, and stuck with that team until they were great. Kobe, on the other hand, was put in a place where he had the most dominant player in the league on his side, with a franchise that has always had success.
Of course Jordan was going to lose a lot early in his career, but he also won alot, and never lost a finals. Aside from comeback number three, dude ONLY LOST ONE SERIES in 7 seasons. So shut the fuck up
Huh? Jordan only lost one series? WTF are you smoking? What I said was true...Jordan only started winning when he got some major help. What doesn't make sense about that? Kobe worked for what he had as well...LMAO@your outrageous claims. Kobe was a rookie playing behind an up-and-coming all-star and fan favorite, Eddie Jones, getting limitted playing time...He worked his way to the top, and Lakers only won when Kobe became a superstar....Jordan couldn't lead a team to a record above .500 until his 4th season. Kobe has only played 3 seasons without Shaq, and without nearly as much talent as Jordan had...People like to taint shit and make it seem like while Jordan was the greatest thing to happen to sports, Kobe is the anti-Christ...All I'm saying is that they're WAY too alike for people to claim Jordan was great in one breath, and discredit Kobe in another...It's just not right...PeACe
You are right NIK, they are so damn similar it is scary. Kobe still has time to prove the naysayers; peeps weren't feeling Jordan until he started winning on his own either. Kobe has at least as much talent as MJ, so it COULD happen, but he would have to mature a whole heck of a lot soon.
But Kobe was already 8 years pro and had won 3 rings before he took had to take control of the team, Jordan took control as a rookie, if Kobe took control of the team as a rookie it would have tooken just as long for him to lead the team to an above .500 record or achieve playoff success
How do you know? Jordan never had to play on a team as bad (and battered) as the Lakers.
The Laker's front office sucks.