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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: The_Ripper on January 19, 2013, 11:43:21 PM
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Dr. Dre has been taking his sweet time with his long-awaited and oft-delayed final solo album Detox, which has been in the works for over a decade. Game, who has worked with the West Coast veteran on the LP since the onset of his career, recently chopped it up with VIBE, discussing how fans may never end up hearing the project.
"Detox, it's like Jesus," he said. "Will you ever get to see Jesus? It's like a hip-hop Jesus."
Even after Dre released a few singles over the past couple of years, Game doesn't think that the rapper will ever release the album until he's truly satisfied with the final product.
"Dre's a hard guy to please," adds Game, also stating how his Beats by Dre company interferes with the album. "He's so critical... If he doesn't become 100 percent happy, then we'll probably never end up hearing Detox. I'll say never."
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Game really going out on a limb...
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Are people seriously still waiting on this? Im a fan of Dre but i could honestly care less. Last time i cared was 2005-2006. He doesnt have
to prove anything really. Just listen to other artist and stop waiting for some "westcoast glory" that you think Dre is gonna provide. Not like
Detox would please people either, whatever he releases is gonna be analyzed and teared to shreds critically before it even drops.
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Game is probably right, but i still hope we would get "Detox" one day. If Dre needs a co-producer for the album, he does have DJ Khalil.
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Game is probably right, but i still hope we would get "Detox" one day. If Dre needs a co-producer for the album, he does have DJ Khalil.
Dre needs to co-produce an album with the same team that did GKMC.
He could have an album together in 2-3 weeks if he wanted to.
On the real, he should drop nearly all his in house dudes. Shit got wayy stale years back.
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I know this is gettin off topic, but wasn't "Good Kid Maaad City" already almost finished before Kendrick even decided to sign with Aftermath and Interscope? If i remember that correct then the whole "10 years ago this would have been sayin' "Produced by Dr. Dre" argument is out the window.
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Game is probably right, but i still hope we would get "Detox" one day. If Dre needs a co-producer for the album, he does have DJ Khalil.
Dre needs to co-produce an album with the same team that did GKMC.
holy shit, this might be the worst idea i've ever heard on this forum
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Game is so wise for telling us what nobody realized :'(
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Game is so wise for telling us what nobody realized :'(
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I know this is gettin off topic, but wasn't "Good Kid Maaad City" already almost finished before Kendrick even decided to sign with Aftermath and Interscope? If i remember that correct then the whole "10 years ago this would have been sayin' "Produced by Dr. Dre" argument is out the window.
not possible when dre mixed most of the album
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Game is probably right, but i still hope we would get "Detox" one day. If Dre needs a co-producer for the album, he does have DJ Khalil.
Dre needs to co-produce an album with the same team that did GKMC.
holy shit, this might be the worst idea i've ever heard on this forum
You need to get over Napalm not doing the numbers homie
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I know this is gettin off topic, but wasn't "Good Kid Maaad City" already almost finished before Kendrick even decided to sign with Aftermath and Interscope? If i remember that correct then the whole "10 years ago this would have been sayin' "Produced by Dr. Dre" argument is out the window.
not possible when dre mixed most of the album
Nah, he mixed 5 songs. One on his own and the rest with Ali from TDE.
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Game is probably right, but i still hope we would get "Detox" one day. If Dre needs a co-producer for the album, he does have DJ Khalil.
Dre needs to co-produce an album with the same team that did GKMC.
holy shit, this might be the worst idea i've ever heard on this forum
You need to get over Napalm not doing the numbers homie
this has nothin to do with napalm, son...try stickin to the topic, if ya can. "detox" would be HORRIBLE if it carried the same sound as "GKMC"
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I know this is gettin off topic, but wasn't "Good Kid Maaad City" already almost finished before Kendrick even decided to sign with Aftermath and Interscope? If i remember that correct then the whole "10 years ago this would have been sayin' "Produced by Dr. Dre" argument is out the window.
not possible when dre mixed most of the album
Nah, he mixed 5 songs. One on his own and the rest with Ali from TDE.
naah, his name was on 8 of the 13 tracks, my dude
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Game is probably right, but i still hope we would get "Detox" one day. If Dre needs a co-producer for the album, he does have DJ Khalil.
Dre needs to co-produce an album with the same team that did GKMC.
holy shit, this might be the worst idea i've ever heard on this forum
You need to get over Napalm not doing the numbers homie
this has nothin to do with napalm, son...try stickin to the topic, if ya can. "detox" would be HORRIBLE if it carried the same sound as "GKMC"
I didn't say 'same sound'. The creative talent behind GKMC, is up there with the best right now.
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Game is probably right, but i still hope we would get "Detox" one day. If Dre needs a co-producer for the album, he does have DJ Khalil.
Dre needs to co-produce an album with the same team that did GKMC.
holy shit, this might be the worst idea i've ever heard on this forum
You need to get over Napalm not doing the numbers homie
this has nothin to do with napalm, son...try stickin to the topic, if ya can. "detox" would be HORRIBLE if it carried the same sound as "GKMC"
I didn't say 'same sound'. The creative talent behind GKMC, is up there with the best right now.
doesnt matter, if the same producers who produced "GKMC" produced "Detox", then it would carry a similar sound...that should go witout sayin.
"GKMC" was good n all, but not good enough for Dre to use those producers for whats supposed to be the rap album of the century.
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I know this is gettin off topic, but wasn't "Good Kid Maaad City" already almost finished before Kendrick even decided to sign with Aftermath and Interscope? If i remember that correct then the whole "10 years ago this would have been sayin' "Produced by Dr. Dre" argument is out the window.
not possible when dre mixed most of the album
Nah, he mixed 5 songs. One on his own and the rest with Ali from TDE.
naah, his name was on 8 of the 13 tracks, my dude
7 actually. he only mixed one song on his own (Compton). maybe the album was pretty much finished when he signed with the Math and Dre added some finishing touches as always. either way you can tell that Dre wasn't that involved in the creation of this album, nothing really sounds Dre-esque.
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I know this is gettin off topic, but wasn't "Good Kid Maaad City" already almost finished before Kendrick even decided to sign with Aftermath and Interscope? If i remember that correct then the whole "10 years ago this would have been sayin' "Produced by Dr. Dre" argument is out the window.
not possible when dre mixed most of the album
Nah, he mixed 5 songs. One on his own and the rest with Ali from TDE.
naah, his name was on 8 of the 13 tracks, my dude
Dre actually mixed 7 songs with, but only one on his own. The album has 12 tracks, i'm not talkin' about the bonus songs.
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I know this is gettin off topic, but wasn't "Good Kid Maaad City" already almost finished before Kendrick even decided to sign with Aftermath and Interscope? If i remember that correct then the whole "10 years ago this would have been sayin' "Produced by Dr. Dre" argument is out the window.
not possible when dre mixed most of the album
Nah, he mixed 5 songs. One on his own and the rest with Ali from TDE.
naah, his name was on 8 of the 13 tracks, my dude
Dre actually mixed 7 songs with, but only one on his own. The album has 12 tracks, i'm not talkin' about the bonus songs.
7 of 12, still most of the album, meaning the album was far from finished before dre got his hands on it.
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I know this is gettin off topic, but wasn't "Good Kid Maaad City" already almost finished before Kendrick even decided to sign with Aftermath and Interscope? If i remember that correct then the whole "10 years ago this would have been sayin' "Produced by Dr. Dre" argument is out the window.
not possible when dre mixed most of the album
Nah, he mixed 5 songs. One on his own and the rest with Ali from TDE.
naah, his name was on 8 of the 13 tracks, my dude
7 actually. he only mixed one song on his own (Compton). maybe the album was pretty much finished when he signed with the Math and Dre added some finishing touches as always. either way you can tell that Dre wasn't that involved in the creation of this album, nothing really sounds Dre-esque.
yea, his involvement was definitely less than the typical aftermath release, the overall sound is not his...but u can still hear his signature touch throughout the album, and the arrangement on a lot of the tracks straight up holler dre.
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Game is probably right, but i still hope we would get "Detox" one day. If Dre needs a co-producer for the album, he does have DJ Khalil.
Dre needs to co-produce an album with the same team that did GKMC.
holy shit, this might be the worst idea i've ever heard on this forum
You need to get over Napalm not doing the numbers homie
this has nothin to do with napalm, son...try stickin to the topic, if ya can. "detox" would be HORRIBLE if it carried the same sound as "GKMC"
I didn't say 'same sound'. The creative talent behind GKMC, is up there with the best right now.
doesnt matter, if the same producers who produced "GKMC" produced "Detox", then it would carry a similar sound...that should go witout sayin.
"GKMC" was good n all, but not good enough for Dre to use those producers for whats supposed to be the rap album of the century.
I disagree, on the grounds that GKMC sounds like nothing else before it. That team got raw creativity Dre can only dream about.
But if anyone can, he could take the talent and bring it up a notch - that's what he does best after all.
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Game is probably right, but i still hope we would get "Detox" one day. If Dre needs a co-producer for the album, he does have DJ Khalil.
Dre needs to co-produce an album with the same team that did GKMC.
holy shit, this might be the worst idea i've ever heard on this forum
You need to get over Napalm not doing the numbers homie
this has nothin to do with napalm, son...try stickin to the topic, if ya can. "detox" would be HORRIBLE if it carried the same sound as "GKMC"
I didn't say 'same sound'. The creative talent behind GKMC, is up there with the best right now.
doesnt matter, if the same producers who produced "GKMC" produced "Detox", then it would carry a similar sound...that should go witout sayin.
"GKMC" was good n all, but not good enough for Dre to use those producers for whats supposed to be the rap album of the century.
I disagree, on the grounds that GKMC sounds like nothing else before it.
LOL, u serious?
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Sweet tap dancin' Jesus, y'all are still talking about Detox?
Dre makes a fuckin 100 mil a year off headphones and pimpin his artists. Why the fuck would he make another album that couldn't possibly satisfy fans after a decade of hype?
It ain't happenin, fellas. Time to let it go.
P.S.: That Good Kid, Maad City idea would be fuckin turrible. If everybody wasn't copying another person's formula, hip hop wouldn't be in the shitty state its in today.
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Sweet tap dancin' Jesus, y'all are still talking about Detox?
Dre makes a fuckin 100 mil a year off headphones and pimpin his artists. Why the fuck would he make another album that couldn't possibly satisfy fans after a decade of hype?
It ain't happenin, fellas. Time to let it go.
P.S.: That Good Kid, Maad City idea would be fuckin turrible. If everybody wasn't copying another person's formula, hip hop wouldn't be in the shitty state its in today.
+1
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Game is probably right, but i still hope we would get "Detox" one day. If Dre needs a co-producer for the album, he does have DJ Khalil.
Dre needs to co-produce an album with the same team that did GKMC.
holy shit, this might be the worst idea i've ever heard on this forum
You need to get over Napalm not doing the numbers homie
this has nothin to do with napalm, son...try stickin to the topic, if ya can. "detox" would be HORRIBLE if it carried the same sound as "GKMC"
I didn't say 'same sound'. The creative talent behind GKMC, is up there with the best right now.
doesnt matter, if the same producers who produced "GKMC" produced "Detox", then it would carry a similar sound...that should go witout sayin.
"GKMC" was good n all, but not good enough for Dre to use those producers for whats supposed to be the rap album of the century.
I disagree, on the grounds that GKMC sounds like nothing else before it.
LOL, u serious?
Yep, and that's how a relatively unknown artist like Kendrick sold 640K and counting.
Shit sounds like literally nothing else out there. It's a remarkable album, in an era where only The Roots are putting out anything of comparable quality.
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Game is probably right, but i still hope we would get "Detox" one day. If Dre needs a co-producer for the album, he does have DJ Khalil.
Dre needs to co-produce an album with the same team that did GKMC.
holy shit, this might be the worst idea i've ever heard on this forum
You need to get over Napalm not doing the numbers homie
this has nothin to do with napalm, son...try stickin to the topic, if ya can. "detox" would be HORRIBLE if it carried the same sound as "GKMC"
I didn't say 'same sound'. The creative talent behind GKMC, is up there with the best right now.
doesnt matter, if the same producers who produced "GKMC" produced "Detox", then it would carry a similar sound...that should go witout sayin.
"GKMC" was good n all, but not good enough for Dre to use those producers for whats supposed to be the rap album of the century.
I disagree, on the grounds that GKMC sounds like nothing else before it.
LOL, u serious?
Yep, and that's how a relatively unknown artist like Kendrick sold 640K and counting.
Shit sounds like literally nothing else out there. It's a remarkable album, in an era where only The Roots are putting out anything of comparable quality.
lmfao...the only sound this album was truly able to capture was the modern "2012" sound. it's underlying musical theme was "lets get the current radio sound and get kendrick to spit some lyrical social commentary over it"...if u really think the production is ground-breaking or only comparable to The Roots in terms of quality, then you really need to check ya ears, my boy.
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Game is probably right, but i still hope we would get "Detox" one day. If Dre needs a co-producer for the album, he does have DJ Khalil.
Dre needs to co-produce an album with the same team that did GKMC.
holy shit, this might be the worst idea i've ever heard on this forum
You need to get over Napalm not doing the numbers homie
this has nothin to do with napalm, son...try stickin to the topic, if ya can. "detox" would be HORRIBLE if it carried the same sound as "GKMC"
I didn't say 'same sound'. The creative talent behind GKMC, is up there with the best right now.
doesnt matter, if the same producers who produced "GKMC" produced "Detox", then it would carry a similar sound...that should go witout sayin.
"GKMC" was good n all, but not good enough for Dre to use those producers for whats supposed to be the rap album of the century.
I disagree, on the grounds that GKMC sounds like nothing else before it.
LOL, u serious?
Yep, and that's how a relatively unknown artist like Kendrick sold 640K and counting.
Shit sounds like literally nothing else out there. It's a remarkable album, in an era where only The Roots are putting out anything of comparable quality.
lmfao...the only sound this album was truly able to capture was the modern "2012" sound. it's underlying musical theme was "lets get the current radio sound and get kendrick to spit some lyrical social commentary over it"...if u really think the production is ground-breaking or only comparable to The Roots in terms of quality, then you really need to check ya ears, my boy.
LOL @ current radio sound.
My top 3 rap albums of the last 5 years:
Nas 'Nigger'
Roots 'Undun'
Kendrick 'GKMC'
They're all on the same page, for different reasons.
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Game is probably right, but i still hope we would get "Detox" one day. If Dre needs a co-producer for the album, he does have DJ Khalil.
Dre needs to co-produce an album with the same team that did GKMC.
holy shit, this might be the worst idea i've ever heard on this forum
You need to get over Napalm not doing the numbers homie
this has nothin to do with napalm, son...try stickin to the topic, if ya can. "detox" would be HORRIBLE if it carried the same sound as "GKMC"
I didn't say 'same sound'. The creative talent behind GKMC, is up there with the best right now.
doesnt matter, if the same producers who produced "GKMC" produced "Detox", then it would carry a similar sound...that should go witout sayin.
"GKMC" was good n all, but not good enough for Dre to use those producers for whats supposed to be the rap album of the century.
I disagree, on the grounds that GKMC sounds like nothing else before it.
LOL, u serious?
Yep, and that's how a relatively unknown artist like Kendrick sold 640K and counting.
Shit sounds like literally nothing else out there. It's a remarkable album, in an era where only The Roots are putting out anything of comparable quality.
lmfao...the only sound this album was truly able to capture was the modern "2012" sound. it's underlying musical theme was "lets get the current radio sound and get kendrick to spit some lyrical social commentary over it"...if u really think the production is ground-breaking or only comparable to The Roots in terms of quality, then you really need to check ya ears, my boy.
LOL @ current radio sound.
My top 3 rap albums of the last 5 years:
Nas 'Nigger'
Roots 'Undun'
Kendrick 'GKMC'
They're all on the same page, for different reasons.
lol, okay
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Wow Game blew my fucking Mind, Dr. Dre not releasing Detox?
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On the real Dr. Dre releasing another album would be good, I'm not expecting Detox to contain some revolutionary sound like The Chronic. I mean seriously another album filled with Grade A Material would do just fine, I mean I know I hate artist who just keep releasing album after album but the benefit is we at the very least get a chance at new music to like and bump, Not releasing an album because it's not gonna be some ground breaking thing is fucking stupid.Long as it's a quality product it will get rotation.
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Wow Game blew my fucking Mind, Dr. Dre not releasing Detox?
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LMAO.
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Wow Game blew my fucking Mind, Dr. Dre not releasing Detox?
(http://rumorsontheinternets.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/wee-bey-oh-shit.gif)
On the real Dr. Dre releasing another album would be good, I'm not expecting Detox to contain some revolutionary sound like The Chronic. I mean seriously another album filled with Grade A Material would do just fine, I mean I know I hate artist who just keep releasing album after album but the benefit is we at the very least get a chance at new music to like and bump, Not releasing an album because it's not gonna be some ground breaking thing is fucking stupid.Long as it's a quality product it will get rotation.
On point. Dre didn't top the first album anyway when 2001 dropped. Keeping it consistent is all we can reasonably expect
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Only a few beats on "GKMC" has that "current radio sound".
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Only a few beats on "GKMC" has that "current radio sound".
once again, there was nothing groundbreaking bout the production on the album.
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GKMC is really overrated imo.
I think some of yall are so used to being spoon fed shit music for so long, that the minute a decent album comes along, y'all are ready to put it in GOAT status.
The production on GKMD is cool, but no different than Section.80, and I didn't hear anyone clamoring about how great Section.80's production was.
And yes, the album has a lot of radio friendly cuts on it. That's why Kendrick's name recognition blew the fuck up in the last couple months. You got his shit on the radio out here in LA every damn 15 minutes.
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GKMC is really overrated imo.
I think some of yall are so used to being spoon fed shit music for so long, that the minute a decent album comes along, y'all are ready to put it in GOAT status.
The production on GKMD is cool, but no different than Section.80, and I didn't hear anyone clamoring about how great Section.80's production was.
And yes, the album has a lot of radio friendly cuts on it. That's why Kendrick's name recognition blew the fuck up in the last couple months. You got his shit on the radio out here in LA every damn 15 minutes.
I still like "Section.80" better. Both albums are great though.
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I like Section.80 better too.
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GKMC is really overrated imo.
I think some of yall are so used to being spoon fed shit music for so long, that the minute a decent album comes along, y'all are ready to put it in GOAT status.
The production on GKMD is cool, but no different than Section.80, and I didn't hear anyone clamoring about how great Section.80's production was.
And yes, the album has a lot of radio friendly cuts on it. That's why Kendrick's name recognition blew the fuck up in the last couple months. You got his shit on the radio out here in LA every damn 15 minutes.
the production on Section .80 is better IMO, I liked GKMC, but the production was pretty generic to my ears, it wasn't the strong point of the album except for a few cuts. GKMC is dope for its story telling and dope lyrics, but the production ? i don't think so. I do prefer Section .80 as well, and I think GKMC is overrated too, although an excellent album too.
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GKMC is really overrated imo.
I think some of yall are so used to being spoon fed shit music for so long, that the minute a decent album comes along, y'all are ready to put it in GOAT status.
The production on GKMD is cool, but no different than Section.80, and I didn't hear anyone clamoring about how great Section.80's production was.
And yes, the album has a lot of radio friendly cuts on it. That's why Kendrick's name recognition blew the fuck up in the last couple months. You got his shit on the radio out here in LA every damn 15 minutes.
Lol another person on the Internet using the 'you think it's better than shit, so you're calling it goat' argument
It's an 8/10 for me (no extremist)
And last time I checked btw, the majority of rap comin out is no better than today's radio hits. Sorry to burst that bubble!
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All I know is when The Chronic dropped he told The D.O.C. to never release an LP again, so hopefully now we will get an updated D.O.C. & The Doctor.
If he's been working with people like Rick Ross, T.I.& Lil' Wayne on Detox, who the fuck would want it released anygoddamnway?
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All I know is when The Chronic dropped he told The D.O.C. to never release an LP again, so hopefully now we will get an updated D.O.C. & The Doctor.
If he's been working with people like Rick Ross, T.I.& Lil' Wayne on Detox, who the fuck would want it released anygoddamnway?
Of Rick Ross on Detox he gonna have to bring his triple A game.
U think Dre would be under pressure to feature every current rapper tho?
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Looking at the two chronics, i'd of thought we'd get an lp written, rapped and produced by Andre Young.
Bit of a crazy thought though.
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Looking at the two chronics, i'd of thought we'd get an lp written, rapped and produced by Andre Young.
Bit of a crazy thought though.
I heard he got some amazing ABC 123 verses in the vault, and a couple where he spells his name and recites his zodiac sign
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another Detox thread!! :banana_trippin: :banana_trippin: :banana_trippin: :banana_trippin: :banana_llama: :banana_llama: :banana_llama: :banana_llama:
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Dr. Dre will never release "Detox" ???
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Was it April Fool's Day when Game said this because i don't believe this bullshit!
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And last time I checked btw, the majority of rap comin out is no better than today's radio hits. Sorry to burst that bubble!
last u checked? i'm willing to bet u dont check shit but commercial releases.....what's the over/under on Will checkin albums like "rebellion against all there is", "still ruthless", or "the only solution"?....LOL. c'mon, now
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And last time I checked btw, the majority of rap comin out is no better than today's radio hits. Sorry to burst that bubble!
last u checked? i'm willing to bet u dont check shit but commercial releases.....what's the over/under on Will checkin albums like "rebellion against all there is", "still ruthless", or "the only solution"?....LOL. c'mon, now
Lol I listened to more albums than I care to remember. Pretty much every album hiphopdx reviews for a start. Shit gets tiresome, like Nik tryin to be clever lol
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the kendrick was pretty much done when he signed.. dre mixed album which is last step to finalizing a record. mixing has nothing to do with producing. its just making sure all levels are sounding good
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That's what i thought so too.
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And last time I checked btw, the majority of rap comin out is no better than today's radio hits. Sorry to burst that bubble!
last u checked? i'm willing to bet u dont check shit but commercial releases.....what's the over/under on Will checkin albums like "rebellion against all there is", "still ruthless", or "the only solution"?....LOL. c'mon, now
Lol I listened to more albums than I care to remember. Pretty much every album hiphopdx reviews for a start. Shit gets tiresome, like Nik tryin to be clever lol
so u checked those 3 albums? LOL@the lies. no ones tryna be clever, will. i think ur havin flashbacks from mike madsen. i just like 2 call bullshit when i see it.
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That's what i thought so too.
yall thought wrong, mixing is a whole lot more than that..
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And last time I checked btw, the majority of rap comin out is no better than today's radio hits. Sorry to burst that bubble!
last u checked? i'm willing to bet u dont check shit but commercial releases.....what's the over/under on Will checkin albums like "rebellion against all there is", "still ruthless", or "the only solution"?....LOL. c'mon, now
Lol I listened to more albums than I care to remember. Pretty much every album hiphopdx reviews for a start. Shit gets tiresome, like Nik tryin to be clever lol
so u checked those 3 albums? LOL@the lies. no ones tryna be clever, will. i think ur havin flashbacks from mike madsen. i just like 2 call bullshit when i see it.
What does any of that mean lol.
Dude u need to not take offence if someone says the vast majority of albums aren't that good. Shit is fact. It's not about Napalm not doing the numbers u gotta get over that :D
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And last time I checked btw, the majority of rap comin out is no better than today's radio hits. Sorry to burst that bubble!
last u checked? i'm willing to bet u dont check shit but commercial releases.....what's the over/under on Will checkin albums like "rebellion against all there is", "still ruthless", or "the only solution"?....LOL. c'mon, now
Lol I listened to more albums than I care to remember. Pretty much every album hiphopdx reviews for a start. Shit gets tiresome, like Nik tryin to be clever lol
so u checked those 3 albums? LOL@the lies. no ones tryna be clever, will. i think ur havin flashbacks from mike madsen. i just like 2 call bullshit when i see it.
What does any of that mean lol.
Dude u need to not take offence if someone says the vast majority of albums aren't that good. Shit is fact. It's not about Napalm not doing the numbers u gotta get over that :D
all i'm sayin is that u haven't heard some of the best albums this year, so for u to write everything off is mainly based off of ignorance. like i said, u mainly bump commercial releases. u overlook albums like mac mall or black c, because the hype isn't there. u cant claim "rap comin out today is no better than the radio hits" when u dont even check for the best shit comin out, or albums that hiphopdx didn't review. LOL
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And last time I checked btw, the majority of rap comin out is no better than today's radio hits. Sorry to burst that bubble!
last u checked? i'm willing to bet u dont check shit but commercial releases.....what's the over/under on Will checkin albums like "rebellion against all there is", "still ruthless", or "the only solution"?....LOL. c'mon, now
Lol I listened to more albums than I care to remember. Pretty much every album hiphopdx reviews for a start. Shit gets tiresome, like Nik tryin to be clever lol
so u checked those 3 albums? LOL@the lies. no ones tryna be clever, will. i think ur havin flashbacks from mike madsen. i just like 2 call bullshit when i see it.
What does any of that mean lol.
Dude u need to not take offence if someone says the vast majority of albums aren't that good. Shit is fact. It's not about Napalm not doing the numbers u gotta get over that :D
all i'm sayin is that u haven't heard some of the best albums this year, so for u to write everything off is mainly based off of ignorance. like i said, u mainly bump commercial releases. u overlook albums like mac mall or black c, because the hype isn't there. u cant claim "rap comin out today is no better than the radio hits" when u dont even check for the best shit comin out, or albums that hiphopdx didn't review. LOL
I took a shit bout 6.30am before I showered for work today.
But you knew that, right :D
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And last time I checked btw, the majority of rap comin out is no better than today's radio hits. Sorry to burst that bubble!
last u checked? i'm willing to bet u dont check shit but commercial releases.....what's the over/under on Will checkin albums like "rebellion against all there is", "still ruthless", or "the only solution"?....LOL. c'mon, now
Lol I listened to more albums than I care to remember. Pretty much every album hiphopdx reviews for a start. Shit gets tiresome, like Nik tryin to be clever lol
so u checked those 3 albums? LOL@the lies. no ones tryna be clever, will. i think ur havin flashbacks from mike madsen. i just like 2 call bullshit when i see it.
What does any of that mean lol.
Dude u need to not take offence if someone says the vast majority of albums aren't that good. Shit is fact. It's not about Napalm not doing the numbers u gotta get over that :D
all i'm sayin is that u haven't heard some of the best albums this year, so for u to write everything off is mainly based off of ignorance. like i said, u mainly bump commercial releases. u overlook albums like mac mall or black c, because the hype isn't there. u cant claim "rap comin out today is no better than the radio hits" when u dont even check for the best shit comin out, or albums that hiphopdx didn't review. LOL
I took a shit bout 6.30am before I showered for work today.
But you knew that, right :D
no, i didnt know that...but i do know u didnt hear "rebellion against all there is" or "still ruthless" based on your lack of replies in the threads discussing those albums.
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And yes, the album has a lot of radio friendly cuts on it. That's why Kendrick's name recognition blew the fuck up in the last couple months.
Nuh Uh.
Its cause no one has ever released anything like this ever ever, in the history of the world. Thats why.
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And last time I checked btw, the majority of rap comin out is no better than today's radio hits. Sorry to burst that bubble!
last u checked? i'm willing to bet u dont check shit but commercial releases.....what's the over/under on Will checkin albums like "rebellion against all there is", "still ruthless", or "the only solution"?....LOL. c'mon, now
Lol I listened to more albums than I care to remember. Pretty much every album hiphopdx reviews for a start. Shit gets tiresome, like Nik tryin to be clever lol
so u checked those 3 albums? LOL@the lies. no ones tryna be clever, will. i think ur havin flashbacks from mike madsen. i just like 2 call bullshit when i see it.
What does any of that mean lol.
Dude u need to not take offence if someone says the vast majority of albums aren't that good. Shit is fact. It's not about Napalm not doing the numbers u gotta get over that :D
all i'm sayin is that u haven't heard some of the best albums this year, so for u to write everything off is mainly based off of ignorance. like i said, u mainly bump commercial releases. u overlook albums like mac mall or black c, because the hype isn't there. u cant claim "rap comin out today is no better than the radio hits" when u dont even check for the best shit comin out, or albums that hiphopdx didn't review. LOL
I took a shit bout 6.30am before I showered for work today.
But you knew that, right :D
no, i didnt know that...but i do know u didnt hear "rebellion against all there is" or "still ruthless" based on your lack of replies in the threads discussing those albums.
I'll give u a proper answer, I got 4 or 5 ways to learn bout new rap music.
Urban radio
Word of mouth
Buzz shit I see day to day on the web.
Shit I read on this forum
Shit I read on sites (mainly hiphopdx and complex)
Shit I see on TV
Shit I see in store when I'm buying CD's and wot not
Shit I read in the printed media
Ok I lied I got a few avenues....
Now I ain't gonna feel bad if I'm still missing stuff, things I can stumble on shit. I'm checking stuff in my spare time and down time at work...and even when I'm working I got Urban radio on.
So you think I'm missing out? Maybe put a cassette under my pillow when I sleep lol?
EDIT: No offence Mac Malls ok for underground shit but that Black C is straight garbage
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that Black C is straight garbage
lmfao.... now we see what were dealin with. point proven.
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all i'm sayin is that u haven't heard some of the best albums this year, so for u to write everything off is mainly based off of ignorance. like i said, u mainly bump commercial releases. u overlook albums like mac mall or black c, because the hype isn't there. u cant claim "rap comin out today is no better than the radio hits" when u dont even check for the best shit comin out, or albums that hiphopdx didn't review. LOL
Speakin of which, whats up with the LAMB album?
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all i'm sayin is that u haven't heard some of the best albums this year, so for u to write everything off is mainly based off of ignorance. like i said, u mainly bump commercial releases. u overlook albums like mac mall or black c, because the hype isn't there. u cant claim "rap comin out today is no better than the radio hits" when u dont even check for the best shit comin out, or albums that hiphopdx didn't review. LOL
Speakin of which, whats up with the LAMB album?
all the tracks are done, just in the mastering stages, and the video for "hitemwitanother1" needs 2 be edited+released before we put that out... 8)
should be soon
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And yes, the album has a lot of radio friendly cuts on it. That's why Kendrick's name recognition blew the fuck up in the last couple months.
Nuh Uh.
Its cause no one has ever released anything like this ever ever, in the history of the world. Thats why.
My brain had a hard time figuring out what I was listening too. That's how new and groundbreaking it is.
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I've almost accepted Dre lost his touch and the Dre era is finally over. He had a long run though, started in 1986 with "Boyz N The Hood" and ended in 2009 with the Relapse album.
R.I.P Dre era 1986-2009
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There's gonna be a lot of suicides in Europe when this video starts gettin' out there more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDTa8DWSFrg
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There's gonna be a lot of suicides in Europe when this video starts gettin' out there more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDTa8DWSFrg
LMAO!
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There's gonna be a lot of suicides in Europe when this video starts gettin' out there more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDTa8DWSFrg
No. Murder rate in Cali might take a minor hike as we take holidays to the America's and try and break into Dre's studio.
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When was Dre-Day online the last time?
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When was Dre-Day online the last time?
I thought it was Dre day everyday
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Buzz shit I see day to day on the web.
Shit I read on this forum
Shit I read on sites (mainly hiphopdx and complex)
Shit I see on TV
Shit I see in store when I'm buying CD's and wot not
Shit I read in the printed media
and u forget to add that u live in UK :banana_llama: :banana_llama:
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he posted yesterday or the day before yesterday i think
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Buzz shit I see day to day on the web.
Shit I read on this forum
Shit I read on sites (mainly hiphopdx and complex)
Shit I see on TV
Shit I see in store when I'm buying CD's and wot not
Shit I read in the printed media
and u forget to add that u live in UK :banana_llama: :banana_llama:
Yep. One of the hiphop centres of the universe :banana_trippin:
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that just proves what NICC is trying to say - mainstream rap only plus DPG
so claim GKMC is one of the best in last 5 years is just funny
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that just proves what NICC is trying to say - mainstream rap only plus DPG
so claim GKMC is one of the best in last 5 years is just funny
Oh come on now. I listen to 'everything' hiphop but have a good ear for it.
A lot of stuff I dismiss quickly coz I've heard it like a billion times before. Other stuff thats 'nice' but still not rocking my world - like that Black C - I acknowledge but I still don't have time to waste on. Shit moves so quick, I'm only taking good good shit onto my roster
In regards to the DPG comment I haven't enjoyed any of their shit apart from the obligatory Snoop album (got a few spins) the D.A.Z. joint and Soopaflys album.
99.9 of their stuff should stay in the vault these days. Lately Doggy Bag was the only gem to drop from the camp in the last couple years.
EDIT: and whats mainstream anyway, u mean like lil wayne and jay-z LMAO
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that just proves what NICC is trying to say - mainstream rap only plus DPG
so claim GKMC is one of the best in last 5 years is just funny
lol, leave him alone...he called Black C's album "trash"....outside of Will, theres not one person I know who heard the album and had something other than GREAT things to say about it. he doesn't even warrant a response in this thread after that one.
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^^^^^^^^^^
that just proves what NICC is trying to say - mainstream rap only plus DPG
so claim GKMC is one of the best in last 5 years is just funny
lol, leave him alone...he called Black C's album "trash"....outside of Will, theres not one person I know who heard the album and had something other than GREAT things to say about it. he doesn't even warrant a response in this thread after that one.
I heard some nice production and some mic presence going on there. I like to bump shit like that from time to time but you don't get much milage from those albums. My opinion. Don't take it to heart champ
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that just proves what NICC is trying to say - mainstream rap only plus DPG
so claim GKMC is one of the best in last 5 years is just funny
lol, leave him alone...he called Black C's album "trash"....outside of Will, theres not one person I know who heard the album and had something other than GREAT things to say about it. he doesn't even warrant a response in this thread after that one.
I heard some nice production and some mic presence going on there. I like to bump shit like that from time to time but you don't get much milage from those albums. My opinion. Don't take it to heart champ
i dont give a fuck what u say, u called the album trash.....ur opinion on west coast hip-hop holds zero weight after that.
if u can find me another bad review or someone else who didn't like the album, i'll take that back....
frankly, i think u didnt even hear it and are just saying that to validate ur opinions even more, which ended up backfiring :laugh:
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^^^^^^^^^^
that just proves what NICC is trying to say - mainstream rap only plus DPG
so claim GKMC is one of the best in last 5 years is just funny
lol, leave him alone...he called Black C's album "trash"....outside of Will, theres not one person I know who heard the album and had something other than GREAT things to say about it. he doesn't even warrant a response in this thread after that one.
I heard some nice production and some mic presence going on there. I like to bump shit like that from time to time but you don't get much milage from those albums. My opinion. Don't take it to heart champ
i dont give a fuck what u say, u called the album trash.....ur opinion on west coast hip-hop holds zero weight after that.
if u can find me another bad review or someone else who didn't like the album, i'll take that back....
frankly, i think u didnt even hear it and are just saying that to validate ur opinions even more, which ended up backfiring :laugh:
Nope u reaching too far. Hiphopdx is down at the mo, but I've not done a catch up since nov or december. Hadn't heard either of those albums, and I googled some tracks on your recommendation hoping to enjoy. Heard one Black C track that sounded garbage so I called it.
Been back since and saw a vid of him in the studio with some nice live sounding instros so I'm gonna say its all good. Nothing mind blowing to me. Just my 2c
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^^^^^^^^^^
that just proves what NICC is trying to say - mainstream rap only plus DPG
so claim GKMC is one of the best in last 5 years is just funny
lol, leave him alone...he called Black C's album "trash"....outside of Will, theres not one person I know who heard the album and had something other than GREAT things to say about it. he doesn't even warrant a response in this thread after that one.
I heard some nice production and some mic presence going on there. I like to bump shit like that from time to time but you don't get much milage from those albums. My opinion. Don't take it to heart champ
i dont give a fuck what u say, u called the album trash.....ur opinion on west coast hip-hop holds zero weight after that.
if u can find me another bad review or someone else who didn't like the album, i'll take that back....
frankly, i think u didnt even hear it and are just saying that to validate ur opinions even more, which ended up backfiring :laugh:
Nope u reaching too far. Hiphopdx is down at the mo, but I've not done a catch up since nov or december. Hadn't heard either of those albums, and I googled some tracks on your recommendation hoping to enjoy. Heard one Black C track that sounded garbage so I called it.
Been back since and saw a vid of him in the studio with some nice live sounding instros so I'm gonna say its all good. Nothing mind blowing to me. Just my 2c
so u called the album trash after hearing one track? LOL...like i said, ur credibility has been shot in this thread
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^^^^^^^^^^
that just proves what NICC is trying to say - mainstream rap only plus DPG
so claim GKMC is one of the best in last 5 years is just funny
lol, leave him alone...he called Black C's album "trash"....outside of Will, theres not one person I know who heard the album and had something other than GREAT things to say about it. he doesn't even warrant a response in this thread after that one.
I heard some nice production and some mic presence going on there. I like to bump shit like that from time to time but you don't get much milage from those albums. My opinion. Don't take it to heart champ
i dont give a fuck what u say, u called the album trash.....ur opinion on west coast hip-hop holds zero weight after that.
if u can find me another bad review or someone else who didn't like the album, i'll take that back....
frankly, i think u didnt even hear it and are just saying that to validate ur opinions even more, which ended up backfiring :laugh:
Nope u reaching too far. Hiphopdx is down at the mo, but I've not done a catch up since nov or december. Hadn't heard either of those albums, and I googled some tracks on your recommendation hoping to enjoy. Heard one Black C track that sounded garbage so I called it.
Been back since and saw a vid of him in the studio with some nice live sounding instros so I'm gonna say its all good. Nothing mind blowing to me. Just my 2c
so u called the album trash after hearing one track? LOL...like i said, ur credibility has been shot in this thread
No I said "No offence Mac Malls ok for underground shit but that Black C is straight garbage"
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^^^^^^^^^^
that just proves what NICC is trying to say - mainstream rap only plus DPG
so claim GKMC is one of the best in last 5 years is just funny
lol, leave him alone...he called Black C's album "trash"....outside of Will, theres not one person I know who heard the album and had something other than GREAT things to say about it. he doesn't even warrant a response in this thread after that one.
I heard some nice production and some mic presence going on there. I like to bump shit like that from time to time but you don't get much milage from those albums. My opinion. Don't take it to heart champ
i dont give a fuck what u say, u called the album trash.....ur opinion on west coast hip-hop holds zero weight after that.
if u can find me another bad review or someone else who didn't like the album, i'll take that back....
frankly, i think u didnt even hear it and are just saying that to validate ur opinions even more, which ended up backfiring :laugh:
Nope u reaching too far. Hiphopdx is down at the mo, but I've not done a catch up since nov or december. Hadn't heard either of those albums, and I googled some tracks on your recommendation hoping to enjoy. Heard one Black C track that sounded garbage so I called it.
Been back since and saw a vid of him in the studio with some nice live sounding instros so I'm gonna say its all good. Nothing mind blowing to me. Just my 2c
so u called the album trash after hearing one track? LOL...like i said, ur credibility has been shot in this thread
No I said "No offence Mac Malls ok for underground shit but that Black C is straight garbage"
but u said u only heard 1 song? :D :-X
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^^^^^^^^^^
that just proves what NICC is trying to say - mainstream rap only plus DPG
so claim GKMC is one of the best in last 5 years is just funny
lol, leave him alone...he called Black C's album "trash"....outside of Will, theres not one person I know who heard the album and had something other than GREAT things to say about it. he doesn't even warrant a response in this thread after that one.
I heard some nice production and some mic presence going on there. I like to bump shit like that from time to time but you don't get much milage from those albums. My opinion. Don't take it to heart champ
i dont give a fuck what u say, u called the album trash.....ur opinion on west coast hip-hop holds zero weight after that.
if u can find me another bad review or someone else who didn't like the album, i'll take that back....
frankly, i think u didnt even hear it and are just saying that to validate ur opinions even more, which ended up backfiring :laugh:
Nope u reaching too far. Hiphopdx is down at the mo, but I've not done a catch up since nov or december. Hadn't heard either of those albums, and I googled some tracks on your recommendation hoping to enjoy. Heard one Black C track that sounded garbage so I called it.
Been back since and saw a vid of him in the studio with some nice live sounding instros so I'm gonna say its all good. Nothing mind blowing to me. Just my 2c
so u called the album trash after hearing one track? LOL...like i said, ur credibility has been shot in this thread
No I said "No offence Mac Malls ok for underground shit but that Black C is straight garbage"
but u said u only heard 1 song? :D :-X
Yeah and u got awful touchy so I went back and looked up his Vevo.
If u like I'll officially change my statement for u
"that Mac Mall and Black C is ok for underground, does nothing for me tho" :laugh:
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yea, mac mall and black c is okay, but kendrick is groundbreaking.....lol. once again, this thread is a bad look for your credibility. just hope it dies down soon.
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yea, mac mall and black c is okay, but kendrick is groundbreaking.....lol. once again, this thread is a bad look for your credibility. just hope it dies down soon.
And when did I say GKMC is groundbreaking.
Again someone on the net talking in extremes to 'win' an argument :D
This ain't about Napalm not doing the numbers Nik!!!
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yea, mac mall and black c is okay, but kendrick is groundbreaking.....lol. once again, this thread is a bad look for your credibility. just hope it dies down soon.
And when did I say GKMC is groundbreaking.
Again someone on the net talking in extremes to 'win' an argument :D
This ain't about Napalm not doing the numbers Nik!!!
lol, again u bring up "napalm" cuz u have nothing to say....i felt u were acting as if "GKMC" was groundbreaking. if u dont, then u dont. but u still have it in ur top 3 of the last 5 years, which is pretty pathetic, when u call Black C's album (which u haven't heard) "trash" (and then change the "trash" to "okay" when u realize it made u look foolish)
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i dont give a fuck what u say, u called the album trash.....ur opinion on west coast hip-hop holds zero weight after that.
It's his opinion. Everybody got one.
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i dont give a fuck what u say, u called the album trash.....ur opinion on west coast hip-hop holds zero weight after that.
It's his opinion. Everybody got one.
yea, and someones opinion could be that "the chronic" was trash, doesn't mean i'd respect it..
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i dont give a fuck what u say, u called the album trash.....ur opinion on west coast hip-hop holds zero weight after that.
It's his opinion. Everybody got one.
yea, and someones opinion could be that "the chronic" was trash, doesn't mean i'd respect it..
You're comparing The Chronic to Black C, Still Ruthless.
Wow.
You just got all your shit revoked.
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i dont give a fuck what u say, u called the album trash.....ur opinion on west coast hip-hop holds zero weight after that.
It's his opinion. Everybody got one.
yea, and someones opinion could be that "the chronic" was trash, doesn't mean i'd respect it..
You're comparing The Chronic to Black C, Still Ruthless.
Wow.
You just got all your shit revoked.
i didnt compare anything, dumbfuck. ure just too stupid to understand the point i was making. must be the aspergers :D
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i dont give a fuck what u say, u called the album trash.....ur opinion on west coast hip-hop holds zero weight after that.
It's his opinion. Everybody got one.
yea, and someones opinion could be that "the chronic" was trash, doesn't mean i'd respect it..
You're comparing The Chronic to Black C, Still Ruthless.
Wow.
You just got all your shit revoked.
i didnt compare anything, dumbfuck. ure just too stupid to understand the point i was making. must be the aspergers :D
Like do I even what? :D
Shit got hella off topic btw
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Holy shit i aint listened to that Kendrick for some time i actually kinda forgot about it. ended up disappearing in the pile.
I got bored of it after not even 10 listens BUT after i move house i will unpack and give it another listen.
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Holy shit i aint listened to that Kendrick for some time i actually kinda forgot about it. ended up disappearing in the pile.
I got bored of it after not even 10 listens BUT after i move house i will unpack and give it another listen.
If you're referring to the good kid mad world album, that albums is good. And back to the main topic about dre will never release detox. I coulda told the game that. I could care less about it now.
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Dre has not been working on DETOX for 10 years. I get irritaded when people make that claim. He only announced the project 10-some years ago. In actuallality he's p-robably worked solidly on the album for about a year or two collectively.
And it's not really about Dre being 100% happy with the music before releasing it. His real concern is timing. Timing based on the excitement and anticipation of the fans- which is ultimately determined by his new "protoge." Dre will release "Detox" when he has a new protoge that the world is excited about, and whome will help keep and continue his legacy as the greatest Hip Hop producer in the industry.
Dre had a great plan for releasing his final album. Bishop Lamont was his plan. Bishop was not just a new artist on Aftermath that Dre would bring out. He was Dre's new protoge, and musical 'partner in crime.' Plus, Bishop w2as from the west coast with his own unique image that was fresh at the time. Bishop wasn't going to be Dre's new Game, or 50 Cent, or Stat Quo...etc. Bishop was going to be his new and final Snoop, and/or Eminem. Bishop was going to be Robin to Dre's Batman, so-to-speak.
When Dre released "The Chronic," he introduced the world to Snoop Dogg- his first main protoge... and released DOGGYSTYLE in conjunction with his debut. When Dre released "Chronic 2001," Eminem was his new main protoge, and followed his album up with THE MARSHALL MATHERS LP. Dre was going to release his 3rd and final album DETOX either before Bishop Lamont's THE REFORMATION (like the pattern Dre did with Snoop), or after THE REFORMATION (like 2001 coming after THE SLIM SHADY LP) in which case THE IMPOSSIBLE POSSIBLE would be Bishop's classic to usher him as the leading Dre protoge and future star of Aftermath Entertainment. From Snoop to Em, Bishop would be the 3rd and final "main protoge" to lead the rest of Dre's team (50, Game, Stat...etc). Had everyone stuck with this plan, and had Jimmy Iovine/Interscope not interfeared, we would have had "Detox," "The Reformation," and maybe even "The Impossible Possible" by now. Not to mention STATLANTA and other planned projects.
There were even projects specifically lined up to get everyone ready for Bishop's introduction and Dre's big return. "The Blue Carpet Treatment" was going to be Snoop's reunion with Dre leading up to "Detox"... much like "No Limit: Top Dogg" and "Tha Last Meal" surrounding "Chronic 2001." "Relapse" was going to be Eminem's return to his 1999-2000 style of good ol' Slim Shady- leading up to Dre/Bishop being announced as Aftermath's new dynamic duo. Bishop Lamont was actually going to be featured on "Relapse" on a song much like "Bad Meets Evil." "I Need A Doctor" was also meant for "Relapse"- leading up to Dre's return. Bishop was also going to be all over DETOX the same way Snoop was on THE CHRONIC. DETOX was also going to have an epic-sounding track like "What's The Difference" from CHRONIC 2001 with Dre featuring Snoop Dogg, Eminem, and Bishop Lamont.
Anyways, it all fell apart when Jimmy Iovine pulled Bishop's "Grow Up" from the radio just when the song was quickly picking up steam, followed by Bishop's decision to leave Aftermath. DEre was now in a dilema because he needed a new hot protoge to release around "Detox."
It's possible now, however, that Dre might have found a new "Robin" to his "Batman" with Kendrick Lamar. The buzz around Kendrick is growing, and the feedback from "Good Kid, M.a.A.d City" is great. Dre seems to have rushed him out there out of despiration to get that new "main" protoge to the public, but it is a good sign that Dre has not abandoned "Detox" all together. If excitement continues to grow with Kendrick Lamar, then we may yet get "Detox" sooner than we think. [FINGERS CROSSED]
In the meantime, there's still complete songs that were meant for DETOX we can listen to:
Get You Some
Boss's Life
IMAGINE
OH (Obie Trice's song)
About Me
HIGHER
Outta Control Remix
Get Low
30 Something
Lost Ones
No Stoppin' Carson
There are other songs for other artists that were originally meant for Detox, but I can't remember them all right now.
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Dre has not been working on DETOX for 10 years. I get irritaded when people make that claim. He only announced the project 10-some years ago. In actuallality he's p-robably worked solidly on the album for about a year or two collectively.
And it's not really about Dre being 100% happy with the music before releasing it. His real concern is timing. Timing based on the excitement and anticipation of the fans- which is ultimately determined by his new "protoge." Dre will release "Detox" when he has a new protoge that the world is excited about, and whome will help keep and continue his legacy as the greatest Hip Hop producer in the industry.
Dre had a great plan for releasing his final album. Bishop Lamont was his plan. Bishop was not just a new artist on Aftermath that Dre would bring out. He was Dre's new protoge, and musical 'partner in crime.' Plus, Bishop w2as from the west coast with his own unique image that was fresh at the time. Bishop wasn't going to be Dre's new Game, or 50 Cent, or Stat Quo...etc. Bishop was going to be his new and final Snoop, and/or Eminem. Bishop was going to be Robin to Dre's Batman, so-to-speak.
When Dre released "The Chronic," he introduced the world to Snoop Dogg- his first main protoge... and released DOGGYSTYLE in conjunction with his debut. When Dre released "Chronic 2001," Eminem was his new main protoge, and followed his album up with THE MARSHALL MATHERS LP. Dre was going to release his 3rd and final album DETOX either before Bishop Lamont's THE REFORMATION (like the pattern Dre did with Snoop), or after THE REFORMATION (like 2001 coming after THE SLIM SHADY LP) in which case THE IMPOSSIBLE POSSIBLE would be Bishop's classic to usher him as the leading Dre protoge and future star of Aftermath Entertainment. From Snoop to Em, Bishop would be the 3rd and final "main protoge" to lead the rest of Dre's team (50, Game, Stat...etc). Had everyone stuck with this plan, and had Jimmy Iovine/Interscope not interfeared, we would have had "Detox," "The Reformation," and maybe even "The Impossible Possible" by now. Not to mention STATLANTA and other planned projects.
There were even projects specifically lined up to get everyone ready for Bishop's introduction and Dre's big return. "The Blue Carpet Treatment" was going to be Snoop's reunion with Dre leading up to "Detox"... much like "No Limit: Top Dogg" and "Tha Last Meal" surrounding "Chronic 2001." "Relapse" was going to be Eminem's return to his 1999-2000 style of good ol' Slim Shady- leading up to Dre/Bishop being announced as Aftermath's new dynamic duo. Bishop Lamont was actually going to be featured on "Relapse" on a song much like "Bad Meets Evil." "I Need A Doctor" was also meant for "Relapse"- leading up to Dre's return. Bishop was also going to be all over DETOX the same way Snoop was on THE CHRONIC. DETOX was also going to have an epic-sounding track like "What's The Difference" from CHRONIC 2001 with Dre featuring Snoop Dogg, Eminem, and Bishop Lamont.
Anyways, it all fell apart when Jimmy Iovine pulled Bishop's "Grow Up" from the radio just when the song was quickly picking up steam, followed by Bishop's decision to leave Aftermath. DEre was now in a dilema because he needed a new hot protoge to release around "Detox."
It's possible now, however, that Dre might have found a new "Robin" to his "Batman" with Kendrick Lamar. The buzz around Kendrick is growing, and the feedback from "Good Kid, M.a.A.d City" is great. Dre seems to have rushed him out there out of despiration to get that new "main" protoge to the public, but it is a good sign that Dre has not abandoned "Detox" all together. If excitement continues to grow with Kendrick Lamar, then we may yet get "Detox" sooner than we think. [FINGERS CROSSED]
In the meantime, there's still complete songs that were meant for DETOX we can listen to:
Get You Some
Boss's Life
IMAGINE
OH (Obie Trice's song)
About Me
HIGHER
Outta Control Remix
Get Low
30 Something
Lost Ones
No Stoppin' Carson
There are other songs for other artists that were originally meant for Detox, but I can't remember them all right now.
This.... This post is probably the gayest thing I've ever read in all my years posting on the site, and I've read threads that included weird feelings over Crooked I, A Meth head getting head from a guy to empress a E-Girlfriend, Euro's asking for Pictures of Tupac in a bathtub, but some how in some way this takes the cake.
The Wiggertry in this post is also amazing.
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Wasn't that guy Bishop Lamont the one who sounded a bit like fiddy?
He got dropped like a hot potato lol
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That's what i thought so too.
yall thought wrong, mixing is a whole lot more than that..
iīm curious, whatīs mixing in your opinion ?
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When was Dre-Day online the last time?
i don't check the forum as often as i used to, there's not much going on.
anyway i'm glad dre didn't release detox 2 years ago, the leaks and the singles weren't good enough
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Blasphemy, that dude Rebel runs the Aftermath fan page/forum. 'Nuff said :laugh:
When was Dre-Day online the last time?
i don't check the forum as often as i used to, there's not much going on.
anyway i'm glad dre didn't release detox 2 years ago, the leaks and the singles weren't good enough
Glad to see you stil alive, homie.
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That's what i thought so too.
yall thought wrong, mixing is a whole lot more than that..
iīm curious, whatīs mixing in your opinion ?
from experience, mixing the beat consists of bringing in certain instruments at certain points, deciding when the beat drops or when to fade out the drums, creating a build up to chorus etc...basically, structuring the beat to perfection, and then adding your own touches to complete it.
mixing vocals would be adding effects in ceratin areas, reverb where needed, punch-ins, ad-libs, all that stuff....it's a lot more than just "making sure the levels sound good", even though that is a part of it. mixing is one of the hardest aspects of making a song.. a good mix and a bad mix can be the difference between garbage and a classic.
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Blasphemy, that dude Rebel runs the Aftermath fan page/forum. 'Nuff said :laugh:
I think you have me confused with Dedicato. I don't run that forum. I did some interviews with some of the Aftermath artists a while back, as well as release exclusive tracks and inside info from the camp. I thought you new what I did, Okka?
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Blasphemy, that dude Rebel runs the Aftermath fan page/forum. 'Nuff said :laugh:
I think you have me confused with Dedicato. I don't run that forum. I did some interviews with some of the Aftermath artists a while back, as well as release exclusive tracks and inside info from the camp. I thought you new what I did, Okka?
lol...okka is hilarious as a moderator here. i've never seen a mod troll so much, clown other posters so much, spread so much misinfo, and then delete/lock topics he sees fit on impulse. no way he woulda been selected as a mod if he was american.
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What misinfo have i been spreadin? What topics have i locked and deleted? Please, tell me.
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What misinfo have i been spreadin? What topics have i locked and deleted? Please, tell me.
Just recently, you locked that other thread and spread misinfo in the other one.
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Oh, you talkin' about that one? I thought you were talkin' about the other one.
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Blasphemy, that dude Rebel runs the Aftermath fan page/forum. 'Nuff said :laugh:
I think you have me confused with Dedicato. I don't run that forum. I did some interviews with some of the Aftermath artists a while back, as well as release exclusive tracks and inside info from the camp. I thought you new what I did, Okka?
lol...okka is hilarious as a moderator here. i've never seen a mod troll so much, clown other posters so much, spread so much misinfo, and then delete/lock topics he sees fit on impulse. no way he woulda been selected as a mod if he was american.
Okka is the Euro u ove 2 hate
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That's what i thought so too.
yall thought wrong, mixing is a whole lot more than that..
iīm curious, whatīs mixing in your opinion ?
from experience, mixing the beat consists of bringing in certain instruments at certain points, deciding when the beat drops or when to fade out the drums, creating a build up to chorus etc...basically, structuring the beat to perfection, and then adding your own touches to complete it.
mixing vocals would be adding effects in ceratin areas, reverb where needed, punch-ins, ad-libs, all that stuff....it's a lot more than just "making sure the levels sound good", even though that is a part of it. mixing is one of the hardest aspects of making a song.. a good mix and a bad mix can be the difference between garbage and a classic.
I have to say, if thatīs your understanding of what mixing music is, then your music obviously must suffer from a lot of mixing mistakes since you clearly donīt know what mixing is. You begin your post by explaining music composition, and making of the beat itsel,f by choosing sounds for drums, instruments, synths etc. In your second paragraph you talk about sound effects and recording different layers for the vocals, again not understanding that this is a process in the creative aspect of making music, not mixing. Mixing music is in theory very simple: after you have done what you feel is right in the composition the mixing process can begin. This is done to make everything sound better by using volume faders, EQ, panning, compressors. Simple as that. Now, some producers might want to change instruments and structure in the mixing process, but then theyīre working as composers, not mixers.
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That's what i thought so too.
yall thought wrong, mixing is a whole lot more than that..
iīm curious, whatīs mixing in your opinion ?
from experience, mixing the beat consists of bringing in certain instruments at certain points, deciding when the beat drops or when to fade out the drums, creating a build up to chorus etc...basically, structuring the beat to perfection, and then adding your own touches to complete it.
mixing vocals would be adding effects in ceratin areas, reverb where needed, punch-ins, ad-libs, all that stuff....it's a lot more than just "making sure the levels sound good", even though that is a part of it. mixing is one of the hardest aspects of making a song.. a good mix and a bad mix can be the difference between garbage and a classic.
I have to say, if thatīs your understanding of what mixing music is, then your music obviously must suffer from a lot of mixing mistakes since you clearly donīt know what mixing is. You begin your post by explaining music composition, and making of the beat itsel,f by choosing sounds for drums, instruments, synths etc. In your second paragraph you talk about sound effects and recording different layers for the vocals, again not understanding that this is a process in the creative aspect of making music, not mixing. Mixing music is in theory very simple: after you have done what you feel is right in the composition the mixing process can begin. This is done to make everything sound better by using volume faders, EQ, panning, compressors. Simple as that. Now, some producers might want to change instruments and structure in the mixing process, but then theyīre working as composers, not mixers.
you clearly have no idea what ur talking about...producers can mix beats, as well as vocals. some only mix vocals, some only mix beats...dre clearly mixes beats, as well as vocals.
when mixing vocals, it's typically up to the person doing the mixing where to add reverb, where to leave the punch-ins/ad-libs, where to add sound effects, etc. theres a whole lot thats gets recorded that gets erased in the mixing process, and only someone who's never mixed music in their entire life would not know this.
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Again you prove my point by not seeing/ understanding the difference in music composition and the mixing process. I never mentioned producers CAN NOT mix as well, so I donīt know where you got that from. You are confusing composition and the creative aspect of the song process with the mixing process.I have a education in music theory, production and composition, and have mixed and mastered many tracks over the years. Talk is cheap on the internet so I donīt expect you to believe me, but I would recomend you to read up on the subject of mixing audio. I assume you are like the majority of people on this board that think mixing and mastering is this big magical thing that changes the overall composition of the track. That statement is simply not true, and as I mentioned earlier: mixing audio is simply to rely on a set of sound enchancers to make something sound a little better. Thatīs all it is, and has nothing to do with the composition of the music.
That's what i thought so too.
yall thought wrong, mixing is a whole lot more than that..
iīm curious, whatīs mixing in your opinion ?
from experience, mixing the beat consists of bringing in certain instruments at certain points, deciding when the beat drops or when to fade out the drums, creating a build up to chorus etc...basically, structuring the beat to perfection, and then adding your own touches to complete it.
mixing vocals would be adding effects in ceratin areas, reverb where needed, punch-ins, ad-libs, all that stuff....it's a lot more than just "making sure the levels sound good", even though that is a part of it. mixing is one of the hardest aspects of making a song.. a good mix and a bad mix can be the difference between garbage and a classic.
I have to say, if thatīs your understanding of what mixing music is, then your music obviously must suffer from a lot of mixing mistakes since you clearly donīt know what mixing is. You begin your post by explaining music composition, and making of the beat itsel,f by choosing sounds for drums, instruments, synths etc. In your second paragraph you talk about sound effects and recording different layers for the vocals, again not understanding that this is a process in the creative aspect of making music, not mixing. Mixing music is in theory very simple: after you have done what you feel is right in the composition the mixing process can begin. This is done to make everything sound better by using volume faders, EQ, panning, compressors. Simple as that. Now, some producers might want to change instruments and structure in the mixing process, but then theyīre working as composers, not mixers.
you clearly have no idea what ur talking about...producers can mix beats, as well as vocals. some only mix vocals, some only mix beats...dre clearly mixes beats, as well as vocals.
when mixing vocals, it's typically up to the person doing the mixing where to add reverb, where to leave the punch-ins/ad-libs, where to add sound effects, etc. theres a whole lot thats gets recorded that gets erased in the mixing process, and only someone who's never mixed music in their entire life would not know this.
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Oh, you talkin' about that one? I thought you were talkin' about the other one.
LMAO.
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Was Detox originally The Chronic 2000 (2001) remix LP? Containing Ra's Watcher, Fuck You Too, Still Aftermath (hey young girl?) etc?
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Oh, you talkin' about that one? I thought you were talkin' about the other one.
LMAO.
;D
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Again you prove my point by not seeing/ understanding the difference in music composition and the mixing process. I never mentioned producers CAN NOT mix as well, so I don´t know where you got that from. You are confusing composition and the creative aspect of the song process with the mixing process.I have a education in music theory, production and composition, and have mixed and mastered many tracks over the years. Talk is cheap on the internet so I don´t expect you to believe me, but I would recomend you to read up on the subject of mixing audio. I assume you are like the majority of people on this board that think mixing and mastering is this big magical thing that changes the overall composition of the track. That statement is simply not true, and as I mentioned earlier: mixing audio is simply to rely on a set of sound enchancers to make something sound a little better. That´s all it is, and has nothing to do with the composition of the music.
That's what i thought so too.
yall thought wrong, mixing is a whole lot more than that..
i´m curious, what´s mixing in your opinion ?
from experience, mixing the beat consists of bringing in certain instruments at certain points, deciding when the beat drops or when to fade out the drums, creating a build up to chorus etc...basically, structuring the beat to perfection, and then adding your own touches to complete it.
mixing vocals would be adding effects in ceratin areas, reverb where needed, punch-ins, ad-libs, all that stuff....it's a lot more than just "making sure the levels sound good", even though that is a part of it. mixing is one of the hardest aspects of making a song.. a good mix and a bad mix can be the difference between garbage and a classic.
I have to say, if that´s your understanding of what mixing music is, then your music obviously must suffer from a lot of mixing mistakes since you clearly don´t know what mixing is. You begin your post by explaining music composition, and making of the beat itsel,f by choosing sounds for drums, instruments, synths etc. In your second paragraph you talk about sound effects and recording different layers for the vocals, again not understanding that this is a process in the creative aspect of making music, not mixing. Mixing music is in theory very simple: after you have done what you feel is right in the composition the mixing process can begin. This is done to make everything sound better by using volume faders, EQ, panning, compressors. Simple as that. Now, some producers might want to change instruments and structure in the mixing process, but then they´re working as composers, not mixers.
you clearly have no idea what ur talking about...producers can mix beats, as well as vocals. some only mix vocals, some only mix beats...dre clearly mixes beats, as well as vocals.
when mixing vocals, it's typically up to the person doing the mixing where to add reverb, where to leave the punch-ins/ad-libs, where to add sound effects, etc. theres a whole lot thats gets recorded that gets erased in the mixing process, and only someone who's never mixed music in their entire life would not know this.
well, i can take ur word for it, or i can listen to peeps who have actually worked in the studio with dre, fingazz, storch, etc....what they do when they mix tracks is a lot more than just fading, panning, EQing etc. LOL.. that may be the traditional definition of mixing, but theres a lot more that gets done in hip-hop in ur typical mixing process. do u really think the artist/composer is the one to add reverb? do u think the artist/composer decides where the adlibs/punch-ins stay and where they are removed, or do u think the person mixing the track does that? clearly, ur school has hindered ur natural state of understanding music...the way we do it is we see what sounds good and what doesn't, whther it's through mixing or through composing. we dont care for technical definitions...obviously, some tracks are mixed differently than others, but dre does a whole lot more in the mixing process than ur average mixer, and so do all the great mixers in music.