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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Adriano on April 25, 2007, 04:22:15 PM
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Production : Kanye West, Pharrell, Will.I.Am, Polo, Switz Beatz, Timbaland, Dr Dre, Eminem,Dangerous LLC,Jay’n
Tracks :
- with Mary J.B. called "All Of Me"
- with Eminem "Pipe Show"
-also one with Young Buck & Nicole Scherzinger called "Fire"produced by Dre
-with JT
- with Robin Thicke "Follow My Lead"
he recorded 2 tracks for Detox, Em album is coming , Banks & Young Buck soon on tour etc...
talks about the "Ban 50 Cent" movement
http://www.skyrock.com/musique/9114-article.html
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what a clown
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Wow, this could be worse than Massacre! LMMFAO @ Pussycat Dolls, Justin Timberlake, Robin Thicke. CUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTIIIIIIISSSS
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Wow, this could be worse than Massacre! LMMFAO @ Pussycat Dolls, Justin Timberlake, Robin Thicke. CUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTIIIIIIISSSS
come on now, Robin Thicke is very talented
i don't wanna hear him on a 50 record though :-\
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i'm bringing gangsta back...yeah...them other gangstas dont know how to act...yeah
50 must be bringing gangsta back :0
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seriously though the dre tracks better be in da club part 2,3,4,5 etc. he needs to ditch those other singers and bring back nate dogg, 50 had a big hit with nate and his smooth 'giiiiiiirrrlll' even tho 50 was more on the 'i love you like a fat kid loves cake' tip. good single at the time.
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Not liking all these R & B guests. Not on 50's new record anyhow. It's good to c him branching out and working out of camp, I just wish that it was with singers that fit his style, not PCD, Timberlake, Thicke, etc. If 50 wants to work with R & B singers, I would go with Akon, Mariah, Ne_yo, etc. At least they have talent and make songs better.
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Wow, this could be worse than Massacre! LMMFAO @ Pussycat Dolls, Justin Timberlake, Robin Thicke. CUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTIIIIIIISSSS
come on now, Robin Thicke is very talented
i don't wanna hear him on a 50 record though :-\
Never said he wasn't talented. But if I want, Him, JT, or the Pussycat Dolls, I'll buy their album. This shit is gonna be so wack.
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Wow, this could be worse than Massacre! LMMFAO @ Pussycat Dolls, Justin Timberlake, Robin Thicke. CUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTIIIIIIISSSS
come on now, Robin Thicke is very talented
i don't wanna hear him on a 50 record though :-\
Never said he wasn't talented. But if I want, Him, JT, or the Pussycat Dolls, I'll buy their album. This shit is gonna be so wack.
alright, i feel you homie
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nate dogg is all thats neccesary, i guess 50 has beef as he was on games record or something. nicole scherzinger is a big step up from olivia though, no complaints about her shes always appropriate
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Wow, this could be worse than Massacre! LMMFAO @ Pussycat Dolls, Justin Timberlake, Robin Thicke. CUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTIIIIIIISSSS
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just remember that 50 said he aint fuckin with the neptunes cause they are pop while he is GANGSTA. curtis is set before get rich back in the day when 50 and jt were hustlin on the streets.
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lol @ 50....i was half-assed expecting him to come better this time around too.
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I'm waiting for the 50 dick rider to come in here and say how it's good that he's branching out with these pop artists and how all we listen to is gangsta rap, pretty much they're typical dick riding.
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just remember that 50 said he aint fuckin with the neptunes cause they are pop while he is GANGSTA. curtis is set before get rich back in the day when 50 and jt were hustlin on the streets.
wtf?
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I'm waiting for the 50 dick rider to come in here and say how it's good that he's branching out with these pop artists and how all we listen to is gangsta rap, pretty much they're typical dick riding.
I consider myself a pretty big fan of 50, and I gotta say I'm not too happy with this selection of pop artists. When he said he was gonna work outside of the camp, I thought maybe more guests rappers. 50 has already proved that he can sell well with pop records, imo alot of people are gonna be tired and /or disapoinnted in this.
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just poking fun at the fact that 50 says this lp is set before his first. thats not really very convincing if hes pimpin it out with timbo and jt and got all these pop tracks on it.
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I'm waiting for the 50 dick rider to come in here and say how it's good that he's branching out with these pop artists and how all we listen to is gangsta rap, pretty much they're typical dick riding.
I consider myself a pretty big fan of 50, and I gotta say I'm not too happy with this selection of pop artists. When he said he was gonna work outside of the camp, I thought maybe more guests rappers. 50 has already proved that he can sell well with pop records, imo alot of people are gonna be tired and /or disapoinnted in this.
+1 for being a 50 fan and not a dick rider. You're absolutely right. He already proved he could sell records, and he's fuckin' filthy rich. So why not go back and make a rap album, with actual rapper as guest appearances? Instead of some more radio friendly music.
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I'm waiting for the 50 dick rider to come in here and say how it's good that he's branching out with these pop artists and how all we listen to is gangsta rap, pretty much they're typical dick riding.
I consider myself a pretty big fan of 50, and I gotta say I'm not too happy with this selection of pop artists. When he said he was gonna work outside of the camp, I thought maybe more guests rappers. 50 has already proved that he can sell well with pop records, imo alot of people are gonna be tired and /or disapoinnted in this.
+1 for being a 50 fan and not a dick rider. You're absolutely right. This already proved he could sell records, and he's fuckin' filthy rich. So why not go back and make a rap album, with actual rapper as guest appearances? Instead of some more radio friendly music.
Because he's slippin. His REAL fans ( dickriders not included ) started liking 50 before the fame. All that mixtape mateiral prior to GRODT was why he was hot. Dude was simply putting out the hardest, grimest music in the game at that time.
His label's radio-friendly formula hass not been working well, he needs to remember where he started at, and what made him hot in the 1st place. Alot of rappers blow and act like they came out of nowhere. I respected 50 for his grind so much, and the pop album could sound good by off chance, but 50 is not the dude to be making these pretty boy tracks. A rapper like Chamillionare, Bone Thugs, Jay-Z, Snoop, etc would be better suited over these types of tracks.
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I'm waiting for the 50 dick rider to come in here and say how it's good that he's branching out with these pop artists and how all we listen to is gangsta rap, pretty much they're typical dick riding.
I consider myself a pretty big fan of 50, and I gotta say I'm not too happy with this selection of pop artists. When he said he was gonna work outside of the camp, I thought maybe more guests rappers. 50 has already proved that he can sell well with pop records, imo alot of people are gonna be tired and /or disapoinnted in this.
+1 for being a 50 fan and not a dick rider. You're absolutely right. This already proved he could sell records, and he's fuckin' filthy rich. So why not go back and make a rap album, with actual rapper as guest appearances? Instead of some more radio friendly music.
Because he's slippin. His REAL fans ( dickriders not included ) started liking 50 before the fame. All that mixtape mateiral prior to GRODT was why he was hot. Dude was simply putting out the hardest, grimest music in the game at that time.
His label's radio-friendly formula hass not been working well, he needs to remember where he started at, and what made him hot in the 1st place. Alot of rappers blow and act like they came out of nowhere. I respected 50 for his grind so much, and the pop album could sound good by off chance, but 50 is not the dude to be making these pretty boy tracks. A rapper like Chamillionare, Bone Thugs, Jay-Z, Snoop, etc would be better suited over these types of tracks.
props two both yall...real spit..50 and g-unit/shady/aftermath (yes,inclunding Dre :o) are greedy and care more for soundscan numbers than music. which is kinda weird cause besides the big three em,50,dre the rest of the camp is ass.
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I'm waiting for the 50 dick rider to come in here and say how it's good that he's branching out with these pop artists and how all we listen to is gangsta rap, pretty much they're typical dick riding.
I consider myself a pretty big fan of 50, and I gotta say I'm not too happy with this selection of pop artists. When he said he was gonna work outside of the camp, I thought maybe more guests rappers. 50 has already proved that he can sell well with pop records, imo alot of people are gonna be tired and /or disapoinnted in this.
+1 for being a 50 fan and not a dick rider. You're absolutely right. This already proved he could sell records, and he's fuckin' filthy rich. So why not go back and make a rap album, with actual rapper as guest appearances? Instead of some more radio friendly music.
Because he's slippin. His REAL fans ( dickriders not included ) started liking 50 before the fame. All that mixtape mateiral prior to GRODT was why he was hot. Dude was simply putting out the hardest, grimest music in the game at that time.
His label's radio-friendly formula hass not been working well, he needs to remember where he started at, and what made him hot in the 1st place. Alot of rappers blow and act like they came out of nowhere. I respected 50 for his grind so much, and the pop album could sound good by off chance, but 50 is not the dude to be making these pretty boy tracks. A rapper like Chamillionare, Bone Thugs, Jay-Z, Snoop, etc would be better suited over these types of tracks.
props two both yall...real spit..50 and g-unit/shady/aftermath (yes,inclunding Dre :o) are greedy and care more for soundscan numbers than music. which is kinda weird cause besides the big three em,50,dre the rest of the camp is ass.
The soundscan are not gonna be as high as they were before, I think some artists/labels are in denial about that right now. Rappers gotta play to there strengths, and selling records in 07 is not one of em.
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I'm waiting for the 50 dick rider to come in here and say how it's good that he's branching out with these pop artists and how all we listen to is gangsta rap, pretty much they're typical dick riding.
I consider myself a pretty big fan of 50, and I gotta say I'm not too happy with this selection of pop artists. When he said he was gonna work outside of the camp, I thought maybe more guests rappers. 50 has already proved that he can sell well with pop records, imo alot of people are gonna be tired and /or disapoinnted in this.
+1 for being a 50 fan and not a dick rider. You're absolutely right. This already proved he could sell records, and he's fuckin' filthy rich. So why not go back and make a rap album, with actual rapper as guest appearances? Instead of some more radio friendly music.
Because he's slippin. His REAL fans ( dickriders not included ) started liking 50 before the fame. All that mixtape mateiral prior to GRODT was why he was hot. Dude was simply putting out the hardest, grimest music in the game at that time.
His label's radio-friendly formula hass not been working well, he needs to remember where he started at, and what made him hot in the 1st place. Alot of rappers blow and act like they came out of nowhere. I respected 50 for his grind so much, and the pop album could sound good by off chance, but 50 is not the dude to be making these pretty boy tracks. A rapper like Chamillionare, Bone Thugs, Jay-Z, Snoop, etc would be better suited over these types of tracks.
props two both yall...real spit..50 and g-unit/shady/aftermath (yes,inclunding Dre :o) are greedy and care more for soundscan numbers than music. which is kinda weird cause besides the big three em,50,dre the rest of the camp is ass.
The soundscan are not gonna be as high as they were before, I think some artists/labels are in denial about that right now. Rappers gotta play to there strengths, and selling records in 07 is not one of em.
word,i think rappers should take a look @ T.I. hehas the blueprint right now...like you said you gotta play to your strengths and i think he does that well. 50 puts the record out now as described and its a wrap for him i think.
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I'm waiting for the 50 dick rider to come in here and say how it's good that he's branching out with these pop artists and how all we listen to is gangsta rap, pretty much they're typical dick riding.
I consider myself a pretty big fan of 50, and I gotta say I'm not too happy with this selection of pop artists. When he said he was gonna work outside of the camp, I thought maybe more guests rappers. 50 has already proved that he can sell well with pop records, imo alot of people are gonna be tired and /or disapoinnted in this.
+1 for being a 50 fan and not a dick rider. You're absolutely right. This already proved he could sell records, and he's fuckin' filthy rich. So why not go back and make a rap album, with actual rapper as guest appearances? Instead of some more radio friendly music.
Because he's slippin. His REAL fans ( dickriders not included ) started liking 50 before the fame. All that mixtape mateiral prior to GRODT was why he was hot. Dude was simply putting out the hardest, grimest music in the game at that time.
His label's radio-friendly formula hass not been working well, he needs to remember where he started at, and what made him hot in the 1st place. Alot of rappers blow and act like they came out of nowhere. I respected 50 for his grind so much, and the pop album could sound good by off chance, but 50 is not the dude to be making these pretty boy tracks. A rapper like Chamillionare, Bone Thugs, Jay-Z, Snoop, etc would be better suited over these types of tracks.
props two both yall...real spit..50 and g-unit/shady/aftermath (yes,inclunding Dre :o) are greedy and care more for soundscan numbers than music. which is kinda weird cause besides the big three em,50,dre the rest of the camp is ass.
The soundscan are not gonna be as high as they were before, I think some artists/labels are in denial about that right now. Rappers gotta play to there strengths, and selling records in 07 is not one of em.
word,i think rappers should take a look @ T.I. hehas the blueprint right now...like you said you gotta play to your strengths and i think he does that well. 50 puts the record out now as described and its a wrap for him i think.
and what can they learn from T.I.? (not hating just wondering what you mean)
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and what can they learn from T.I.? (not hating just wondering what you mean)
i just think he knows how to cater to his core audience...look @ King for example. No questionable poppy guests,no overdosin on guest appearances period. Solid production. Yet he can still go out and make his money with Timberlake or anyone else because he leaves that shit separate from his album. I dont know how T.I. Vs. TIP is set up but if he keeps it similar to King it will probably sell just as well.
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and what can they learn from T.I.? (not hating just wondering what you mean)
i just think he knows how to cater to his core audience...look @ King for example. No questionable poppy guests,no overdosin on guest appearances period. Solid production. Yet he can still go out and make his money with Timberlake or anyone else because he leaves that shit separate from his album. I dont know how T.I. Vs. TIP is set up but if he keeps it similar to King it will probably sell just as well.
Tip is one of a kind though. I think he's more versatile than 50 is, who sounds uncomfortable over these pop tracks ( "Window Shopper" anyone? ). Your correct on him being able to cater to his core audience while at the same time gaining new ones every time his tracks come on. Great production, and he chooses his singles extremely well.
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and what can they learn from T.I.? (not hating just wondering what you mean)
i just think he knows how to cater to his core audience...look @ King for example. No questionable poppy guests,no overdosin on guest appearances period. Solid production. Yet he can still go out and make his money with Timberlake or anyone else because he leaves that shit separate from his album. I dont know how T.I. Vs. TIP is set up but if he keeps it similar to King it will probably sell just as well.
True that dog. I didn't really take notice to that about King, no crappy/cheesy guests whatsoever. And although he did have some big name producers on it (mannie fresh, swizz beatz, just blaze) the majority of the beats came from grand hustle in-house dudes (Khao + another I can't member), or other small-name producers he's been fucking with for a long time (DJ Toomp).
T.I. vs. T.I.P. seems like it may be a bit different though. Rumours floating around are saying we'll have guests from Akon (i'm cool with him on it), Timberlake (although I don't mind him & my love was a classic collabo, there's that cheesy guest), Eminem (seems to be pretty much a done deal, this could be wack or intresting), Young Jeezy (they have pretty good chemistry), Ciara (cheesy), Wycelf (same story as eminem), R. kelly (get loose was dope), lil' wayne (haven't had enough collabo's between these 2, although wayne doesn't do much for me), R. Kelly (i'm a flirt is sickkk). So sounds like it could be
A) mixed bag
B) incredilby dope
C) turn out like 50's and the rest of the industry's albums
Reefer: I agree with your points all the way up yo T.I. catering to his core audience & gaining new fans. Great production as well. But he has picked some bad singles. He tends to be right on with the 1st 2 singles usually (bring em out & you don't know me & what you know & why you wanna) but seems to struggle when hitting that 3rd & 4th spot. For Urban Legend, Asap/Motivation was a horrific choice for a single over Get Loose & Freak Though. Also on King, Live In The Sky (although it was a nice tribute to his deceased friend) didn't make any noise to nobody's suprise. Then agian, he also picked Be Eazy as a 2nd single (great song, bad single) but re-couped that album with great 3rd & 4th singles in rubberband man & lets get away
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and what can they learn from T.I.? (not hating just wondering what you mean)
i just think he knows how to cater to his core audience...look @ King for example. No questionable poppy guests,no overdosin on guest appearances period. Solid production. Yet he can still go out and make his money with Timberlake or anyone else because he leaves that shit separate from his album. I dont know how T.I. Vs. TIP is set up but if he keeps it similar to King it will probably sell just as well.
True that dog. I didn't really take notice to that about King, no crappy/cheesy guests whatsoever. And although he did have some big name producers on it (mannie fresh, swizz beatz, just blaze) the majority of the beats came from grand hustle in-house dudes (Khao + another I can't member), or other small-name producers he's been fucking with for a long time (DJ Toomp).
T.I. vs. T.I.P. seems like it may be a bit different though. Rumours floating around are saying we'll have guests from Akon (i'm cool with him on it), Timberlake (although I don't mind him & my love was a classic collabo, there's that cheesy guest), Eminem (seems to be pretty much a done deal, this could be wack or intresting), Young Jeezy (they have pretty good chemistry), Ciara (cheesy), Wycelf (same story as eminem), R. kelly (get loose was dope), lil' wayne (haven't had enough collabo's between these 2, although wayne doesn't do much for me), R. Kelly (i'm a flirt is sickkk). So sounds like it could be
A) mixed bag
B) incredilby dope
C) turn out like 50's and the rest of the industry's albums
Reefer: I agree with your points all the way up yo T.I. catering to his core audience & gaining new fans. Great production as well. But he has picked some bad singles. He tends to be right on with the 1st 2 singles usually (bring em out & you don't know me & what you know & why you wanna) but seems to struggle when hitting that 3rd & 4th spot. For Urban Legend, Asap/Motivation was a horrific choice for a single over Get Loose & Freak Though. Also on King, Live In The Sky (although it was a nice tribute to his deceased friend) didn't make any noise to nobody's suprise. Then agian, he also picked Be Eazy as a 2nd single (great song, bad single) but re-couped that album with great 3rd & 4th singles in rubberband man & lets get away
Pretty much agreed on all points excpet "ASAP", "Motivation" and "Top Down" all get serious love and airplay out here. The only single he had that didn't imo was "Front 2 Back"
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and what can they learn from T.I.? (not hating just wondering what you mean)
i just think he knows how to cater to his core audience...look @ King for example. No questionable poppy guests,no overdosin on guest appearances period. Solid production. Yet he can still go out and make his money with Timberlake or anyone else because he leaves that shit separate from his album. I dont know how T.I. Vs. TIP is set up but if he keeps it similar to King it will probably sell just as well.
True that dog. I didn't really take notice to that about King, no crappy/cheesy guests whatsoever. And although he did have some big name producers on it (mannie fresh, swizz beatz, just blaze) the majority of the beats came from grand hustle in-house dudes (Khao + another I can't member), or other small-name producers he's been fucking with for a long time (DJ Toomp).
T.I. vs. T.I.P. seems like it may be a bit different though. Rumours floating around are saying we'll have guests from Akon (i'm cool with him on it), Timberlake (although I don't mind him & my love was a classic collabo, there's that cheesy guest), Eminem (seems to be pretty much a done deal, this could be wack or intresting), Young Jeezy (they have pretty good chemistry), Ciara (cheesy), Wycelf (same story as eminem), R. kelly (get loose was dope), lil' wayne (haven't had enough collabo's between these 2, although wayne doesn't do much for me), R. Kelly (i'm a flirt is sickkk). So sounds like it could be
A) mixed bag
B) incredilby dope
C) turn out like 50's and the rest of the industry's albums
Reefer: I agree with your points all the way up yo T.I. catering to his core audience & gaining new fans. Great production as well. But he has picked some bad singles. He tends to be right on with the 1st 2 singles usually (bring em out & you don't know me & what you know & why you wanna) but seems to struggle when hitting that 3rd & 4th spot. For Urban Legend, Asap/Motivation was a horrific choice for a single over Get Loose & Freak Though. Also on King, Live In The Sky (although it was a nice tribute to his deceased friend) didn't make any noise to nobody's suprise. Then agian, he also picked Be Eazy as a 2nd single (great song, bad single) but re-couped that album with great 3rd & 4th singles in rubberband man & lets get away
Pretty much agreed on all points excpet "ASAP", "Motivation" and "Top Down" all get serious love and airplay out here. The only single he had that didn't imo was "Front 2 Back"
Asap/Motvation got no love on t.v. though. No doubt in my mind that Get Loose would of blown the fuck up
You mean Top Back, and I didn't speak bad on that one ;D
Also I don't know about Front Back. I think it was more of a street single for the following reasons
A) in an interview after what you know dropped, he said the 2nd single would be why you wanna (totally not mentioning front back)
B) he said that all the singles which had videos would be directed by chris robinson (front back was directed by dr.teeth)
that song is a classic regardless 8)
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and what can they learn from T.I.? (not hating just wondering what you mean)
i just think he knows how to cater to his core audience...look @ King for example. No questionable poppy guests,no overdosin on guest appearances period. Solid production. Yet he can still go out and make his money with Timberlake or anyone else because he leaves that shit separate from his album. I dont know how T.I. Vs. TIP is set up but if he keeps it similar to King it will probably sell just as well.
T.I. vs. T.I.P. seems like it may be a bit different though. Rumours floating around are saying we'll have guests from Akon (i'm cool with him on it), Timberlake (although I don't mind him & my love was a classic collabo, there's that cheesy guest), Eminem (seems to be pretty much a done deal, this could be wack or intresting), Young Jeezy (they have pretty good chemistry), Ciara (cheesy), Wycelf (same story as eminem), R. kelly (get loose was dope), lil' wayne (haven't had enough collabo's between these 2, although wayne doesn't do much for me), R. Kelly (i'm a flirt is sickkk). So sounds like it could be
A) mixed bag
B) incredilby dope
C) turn out like 50's and the rest of the industry's albums
damn,props on the info homie...it does sound like it may turn out a mixed bag. Im coppin regardless but to be real im not as hyped about it. i dont feel akon,r.kelly,wyclef,timerlakes music...eminem puts me to sleep now days and i wish lil wayne did so i couldnt hear him mumble. but who knows like you said it could turn out dope.
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and what can they learn from T.I.? (not hating just wondering what you mean)
i just think he knows how to cater to his core audience...look @ King for example. No questionable poppy guests,no overdosin on guest appearances period. Solid production. Yet he can still go out and make his money with Timberlake or anyone else because he leaves that shit separate from his album. I dont know how T.I. Vs. TIP is set up but if he keeps it similar to King it will probably sell just as well.
T.I. vs. T.I.P. seems like it may be a bit different though. Rumours floating around are saying we'll have guests from Akon (i'm cool with him on it), Timberlake (although I don't mind him & my love was a classic collabo, there's that cheesy guest), Eminem (seems to be pretty much a done deal, this could be wack or intresting), Young Jeezy (they have pretty good chemistry), Ciara (cheesy), Wycelf (same story as eminem), R. kelly (get loose was dope), lil' wayne (haven't had enough collabo's between these 2, although wayne doesn't do much for me), R. Kelly (i'm a flirt is sickkk). So sounds like it could be
A) mixed bag
B) incredilby dope
C) turn out like 50's and the rest of the industry's albums
damn,props on the info homie...it does sound like it may turn out a mixed bag. Im coppin regardless but to be real im not as hyped about it. i dont feel akon,r.kelly,wyclef,timerlakes music...eminem puts me to sleep now days and i wish lil wayne did so i couldnt hear him mumble. but who knows like you said it could turn out dope.
np man. I am defanitely copping 1st day as T.I. is my fav. artist. I think T.I./Akon can make a very good song. But not on a poppy level, on a serious note (and thats what the song is, It is titled "hero"). Dunno what your thoughts were on "soul survivor" (jeezy) but I was cool with that track. And since T.I.'s skill is Jeezy's 100x we may have a real good song here. I think Wycelf is only producing, so no vocals. T.I. & Kelly can make a good track (if it's a party record similar to i'm a flirt, which i love) and that also seems to be the case. The track with kellz is to be titled "life of the party". We may see new life in Eminem with proof's death, the new d12 & solo album, detox etc. so give him another chance. Ain't big on wayne either, but will see
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and what can they learn from T.I.? (not hating just wondering what you mean)
i just think he knows how to cater to his core audience...look @ King for example. No questionable poppy guests,no overdosin on guest appearances period. Solid production. Yet he can still go out and make his money with Timberlake or anyone else because he leaves that shit separate from his album. I dont know how T.I. Vs. TIP is set up but if he keeps it similar to King it will probably sell just as well.
T.I. vs. T.I.P. seems like it may be a bit different though. Rumours floating around are saying we'll have guests from Akon (i'm cool with him on it), Timberlake (although I don't mind him & my love was a classic collabo, there's that cheesy guest), Eminem (seems to be pretty much a done deal, this could be wack or intresting), Young Jeezy (they have pretty good chemistry), Ciara (cheesy), Wycelf (same story as eminem), R. kelly (get loose was dope), lil' wayne (haven't had enough collabo's between these 2, although wayne doesn't do much for me), R. Kelly (i'm a flirt is sickkk). So sounds like it could be
A) mixed bag
B) incredilby dope
C) turn out like 50's and the rest of the industry's albums
damn,props on the info homie...it does sound like it may turn out a mixed bag. Im coppin regardless but to be real im not as hyped about it. i dont feel akon,r.kelly,wyclef,timerlakes music...eminem puts me to sleep now days and i wish lil wayne did so i couldnt hear him mumble. but who knows like you said it could turn out dope.
np man. I am defanitely copping 1st day as T.I. is my fav. artist. I think T.I./Akon can make a very good song. But not on a poppy level, on a serious note (and thats what the song is, It is titled "hero"). Dunno what your thoughts were on "soul survivor" (jeezy) but I was cool with that track. And since T.I.'s skill is Jeezy's 100x we may have a real good song here. I think Wycelf is only producing, so no vocals. T.I. & Kelly can make a good track (if it's a party record similar to i'm a flirt, which i love) and that also seems to be the case. The track with kellz is to be titled "life of the party". We may see new life in Eminem with proof's death, the new d12 & solo album, detox etc. so give him another chance. Ain't big on wayne either, but will see
now thats whats up...jeezy is limited as an m.c. imo but he has his moments, Wyclef only producin is good to hear. ill be a first day buyer as well as T.I. is one of the few bright spots in the game right now.
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and what can they learn from T.I.? (not hating just wondering what you mean)
i just think he knows how to cater to his core audience...look @ King for example. No questionable poppy guests,no overdosin on guest appearances period. Solid production. Yet he can still go out and make his money with Timberlake or anyone else because he leaves that shit separate from his album. I dont know how T.I. Vs. TIP is set up but if he keeps it similar to King it will probably sell just as well.
True that dog. I didn't really take notice to that about King, no crappy/cheesy guests whatsoever. And although he did have some big name producers on it (mannie fresh, swizz beatz, just blaze) the majority of the beats came from grand hustle in-house dudes (Khao + another I can't member), or other small-name producers he's been fucking with for a long time (DJ Toomp).
T.I. vs. T.I.P. seems like it may be a bit different though. Rumours floating around are saying we'll have guests from Akon (i'm cool with him on it), Timberlake (although I don't mind him & my love was a classic collabo, there's that cheesy guest), Eminem (seems to be pretty much a done deal, this could be wack or intresting), Young Jeezy (they have pretty good chemistry), Ciara (cheesy), Wycelf (same story as eminem), R. kelly (get loose was dope), lil' wayne (haven't had enough collabo's between these 2, although wayne doesn't do much for me), R. Kelly (i'm a flirt is sickkk). So sounds like it could be
A) mixed bag
B) incredilby dope
C) turn out like 50's and the rest of the industry's albums
Reefer: I agree with your points all the way up yo T.I. catering to his core audience & gaining new fans. Great production as well. But he has picked some bad singles. He tends to be right on with the 1st 2 singles usually (bring em out & you don't know me & what you know & why you wanna) but seems to struggle when hitting that 3rd & 4th spot. For Urban Legend, Asap/Motivation was a horrific choice for a single over Get Loose & Freak Though. Also on King, Live In The Sky (although it was a nice tribute to his deceased friend) didn't make any noise to nobody's suprise. Then agian, he also picked Be Eazy as a 2nd single (great song, bad single) but re-couped that album with great 3rd & 4th singles in rubberband man & lets get away
Pretty much agreed on all points excpet "ASAP", "Motivation" and "Top Down" all get serious love and airplay out here. The only single he had that didn't imo was "Front 2 Back"
Asap/Motvation got no love on t.v. though. No doubt in my mind that Get Loose would of blown the fuck up
You mean Top Back, and I didn't speak bad on that one ;D
Also I don't know about Front Back. I think it was more of a street single for the following reasons
A) in an interview after what you know dropped, he said the 2nd single would be why you wanna (totally not mentioning front back)
B) he said that all the singles which had videos would be directed by chris robinson (front back was directed by dr.teeth)
that song is a classic regardless 8)
I never knew he didn't mention "Front Back", they were advertising it as Jam of the week on MTV & MTV2 when it came out the same way they did for "Tell Me When To Go", "Strip Club", etc.,. It should have blown, another dope ass record from King.
I also didn't know ASAP didn't get video spin, they played it on the radio, along with "Motivation" alot on Hot97. Another thing to keep in mind about 3rd or 4th singles, they rarley, if ever get alot of play.
"Real Nigga Roll Call" Lil' Jon/Cube
"Bang Out"/"Bosses Life" Snoop
"Minority Report"/"Lost One's" Jay-Z
"Wouldn't Get Far" Game
"Grown & Sexy" Chamillionare
All pretty good tracks, they just don't get the attention/promo as the 1st 2. "Get Loose" would have done better, but I don't know how much play it could have gotten.
And yes, I did mean "Top Back" ;D
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and what can they learn from T.I.? (not hating just wondering what you mean)
i just think he knows how to cater to his core audience...look @ King for example. No questionable poppy guests,no overdosin on guest appearances period. Solid production. Yet he can still go out and make his money with Timberlake or anyone else because he leaves that shit separate from his album. I dont know how T.I. Vs. TIP is set up but if he keeps it similar to King it will probably sell just as well.
T.I. vs. T.I.P. seems like it may be a bit different though. Rumours floating around are saying we'll have guests from Akon (i'm cool with him on it), Timberlake (although I don't mind him & my love was a classic collabo, there's that cheesy guest), Eminem (seems to be pretty much a done deal, this could be wack or intresting), Young Jeezy (they have pretty good chemistry), Ciara (cheesy), Wycelf (same story as eminem), R. kelly (get loose was dope), lil' wayne (haven't had enough collabo's between these 2, although wayne doesn't do much for me), R. Kelly (i'm a flirt is sickkk). So sounds like it could be
A) mixed bag
B) incredilby dope
C) turn out like 50's and the rest of the industry's albums
damn,props on the info homie...it does sound like it may turn out a mixed bag. Im coppin regardless but to be real im not as hyped about it. i dont feel akon,r.kelly,wyclef,timerlakes music...eminem puts me to sleep now days and i wish lil wayne did so i couldnt hear him mumble. but who knows like you said it could turn out dope.
np man. I am defanitely copping 1st day as T.I. is my fav. artist. I think T.I./Akon can make a very good song. But not on a poppy level, on a serious note (and thats what the song is, It is titled "hero"). Dunno what your thoughts were on "soul survivor" (jeezy) but I was cool with that track. And since T.I.'s skill is Jeezy's 100x we may have a real good song here. I think Wycelf is only producing, so no vocals. T.I. & Kelly can make a good track (if it's a party record similar to i'm a flirt, which i love) and that also seems to be the case. The track with kellz is to be titled "life of the party". We may see new life in Eminem with proof's death, the new d12 & solo album, detox etc. so give him another chance. Ain't big on wayne either, but will see
now thats whats up...jeezy is limited as an m.c. imo but he has his moments, Wyclef only producin is good to hear. ill be a first day buyer as well as T.I. is one of the few bright spots in the game right now.
Yea, that's why i'm sayin the collabo with akon may be amazing. If Jeezy can make a dope song (topic being related to that of what is believed to be the same as the T.I. collabo). I believe I heard wyclef was only to be producing, don't entirely take me up on that 1 though ;D
T.I. is indeed 1 of VERY FEW bright spots right now runnin the mainstream game. All those haters who talk shit about him, need to actually give his albums a chance, or simply stop hating.
how many artists have...
1) made a classic album (trap muzik)
2) ended a rapper's career (lil flip)
also outselling Jay-z this past year was astonishing, considering jay had that "coming out of retirement buzz" and dropped a very radio-friendly single
fuck the haters ;D
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and what can they learn from T.I.? (not hating just wondering what you mean)
i just think he knows how to cater to his core audience...look @ King for example. No questionable poppy guests,no overdosin on guest appearances period. Solid production. Yet he can still go out and make his money with Timberlake or anyone else because he leaves that shit separate from his album. I dont know how T.I. Vs. TIP is set up but if he keeps it similar to King it will probably sell just as well.
True that dog. I didn't really take notice to that about King, no crappy/cheesy guests whatsoever. And although he did have some big name producers on it (mannie fresh, swizz beatz, just blaze) the majority of the beats came from grand hustle in-house dudes (Khao + another I can't member), or other small-name producers he's been fucking with for a long time (DJ Toomp).
T.I. vs. T.I.P. seems like it may be a bit different though. Rumours floating around are saying we'll have guests from Akon (i'm cool with him on it), Timberlake (although I don't mind him & my love was a classic collabo, there's that cheesy guest), Eminem (seems to be pretty much a done deal, this could be wack or intresting), Young Jeezy (they have pretty good chemistry), Ciara (cheesy), Wycelf (same story as eminem), R. kelly (get loose was dope), lil' wayne (haven't had enough collabo's between these 2, although wayne doesn't do much for me), R. Kelly (i'm a flirt is sickkk). So sounds like it could be
A) mixed bag
B) incredilby dope
C) turn out like 50's and the rest of the industry's albums
Reefer: I agree with your points all the way up yo T.I. catering to his core audience & gaining new fans. Great production as well. But he has picked some bad singles. He tends to be right on with the 1st 2 singles usually (bring em out & you don't know me & what you know & why you wanna) but seems to struggle when hitting that 3rd & 4th spot. For Urban Legend, Asap/Motivation was a horrific choice for a single over Get Loose & Freak Though. Also on King, Live In The Sky (although it was a nice tribute to his deceased friend) didn't make any noise to nobody's suprise. Then agian, he also picked Be Eazy as a 2nd single (great song, bad single) but re-couped that album with great 3rd & 4th singles in rubberband man & lets get away
Pretty much agreed on all points excpet "ASAP", "Motivation" and "Top Down" all get serious love and airplay out here. The only single he had that didn't imo was "Front 2 Back"
Asap/Motvation got no love on t.v. though. No doubt in my mind that Get Loose would of blown the fuck up
You mean Top Back, and I didn't speak bad on that one ;D
Also I don't know about Front Back. I think it was more of a street single for the following reasons
A) in an interview after what you know dropped, he said the 2nd single would be why you wanna (totally not mentioning front back)
B) he said that all the singles which had videos would be directed by chris robinson (front back was directed by dr.teeth)
that song is a classic regardless 8)
I never knew he didn't mention "Front Back", they were advertising it as Jam of the week on MTV & MTV2 when it came out the same way they did for "Tell Me When To Go", "Strip Club", etc.,. It should have blown, another dope ass record from King.
I also didn't know ASAP didn't get video spin, they played it on the radio, along with "Motivation" alot on Hot97. Another thing to keep in mind about 3rd or 4th singles, they rarley, if ever get alot of play.
"Real Nigga Roll Call" Lil' Jon/Cube
"Bang Out"/"Bosses Life" Snoop
"Minority Report"/"Lost One's" Jay-Z
"Wouldn't Get Far" Game
"Grown & Sexy" Chamillionare
All pretty good tracks, they just don't get the attention/promo as the 1st 2. "Get Loose" would have done better, but I don't know how much play it could have gotten.
And yes, I did mean "Top Back" ;D
Yea, Front back is a classic track, just 2 street for the radio/t.v.
yea asap/motivation got no play pretty much. Also the video version was a remix, that included verses from P$C member's Macboney & Big Kuntry. Get Loose would of done better, because it's more single sounding, plus T.I. was already on tour with nelly at that time, so they even could of performed it together
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and what can they learn from T.I.? (not hating just wondering what you mean)
i just think he knows how to cater to his core audience...look @ King for example. No questionable poppy guests,no overdosin on guest appearances period. Solid production. Yet he can still go out and make his money with Timberlake or anyone else because he leaves that shit separate from his album. I dont know how T.I. Vs. TIP is set up but if he keeps it similar to King it will probably sell just as well.
True that dog. I didn't really take notice to that about King, no crappy/cheesy guests whatsoever. And although he did have some big name producers on it (mannie fresh, swizz beatz, just blaze) the majority of the beats came from grand hustle in-house dudes (Khao + another I can't member), or other small-name producers he's been fucking with for a long time (DJ Toomp).
T.I. vs. T.I.P. seems like it may be a bit different though. Rumours floating around are saying we'll have guests from Akon (i'm cool with him on it), Timberlake (although I don't mind him & my love was a classic collabo, there's that cheesy guest), Eminem (seems to be pretty much a done deal, this could be wack or intresting), Young Jeezy (they have pretty good chemistry), Ciara (cheesy), Wycelf (same story as eminem), R. kelly (get loose was dope), lil' wayne (haven't had enough collabo's between these 2, although wayne doesn't do much for me), R. Kelly (i'm a flirt is sickkk). So sounds like it could be
A) mixed bag
B) incredilby dope
C) turn out like 50's and the rest of the industry's albums
Reefer: I agree with your points all the way up yo T.I. catering to his core audience & gaining new fans. Great production as well. But he has picked some bad singles. He tends to be right on with the 1st 2 singles usually (bring em out & you don't know me & what you know & why you wanna) but seems to struggle when hitting that 3rd & 4th spot. For Urban Legend, Asap/Motivation was a horrific choice for a single over Get Loose & Freak Though. Also on King, Live In The Sky (although it was a nice tribute to his deceased friend) didn't make any noise to nobody's suprise. Then agian, he also picked Be Eazy as a 2nd single (great song, bad single) but re-couped that album with great 3rd & 4th singles in rubberband man & lets get away
Pretty much agreed on all points excpet "ASAP", "Motivation" and "Top Down" all get serious love and airplay out here. The only single he had that didn't imo was "Front 2 Back"
Asap/Motvation got no love on t.v. though. No doubt in my mind that Get Loose would of blown the fuck up
You mean Top Back, and I didn't speak bad on that one ;D
Also I don't know about Front Back. I think it was more of a street single for the following reasons
A) in an interview after what you know dropped, he said the 2nd single would be why you wanna (totally not mentioning front back)
B) he said that all the singles which had videos would be directed by chris robinson (front back was directed by dr.teeth)
that song is a classic regardless 8)
I never knew he didn't mention "Front Back", they were advertising it as Jam of the week on MTV & MTV2 when it came out the same way they did for "Tell Me When To Go", "Strip Club", etc.,. It should have blown, another dope ass record from King.
I also didn't know ASAP didn't get video spin, they played it on the radio, along with "Motivation" alot on Hot97. Another thing to keep in mind about 3rd or 4th singles, they rarley, if ever get alot of play.
"Real Nigga Roll Call" Lil' Jon/Cube
"Bang Out"/"Bosses Life" Snoop
"Minority Report"/"Lost One's" Jay-Z
"Wouldn't Get Far" Game
"Grown & Sexy" Chamillionare
All pretty good tracks, they just don't get the attention/promo as the 1st 2. "Get Loose" would have done better, but I don't know how much play it could have gotten.
And yes, I did mean "Top Back" ;D
Yea, Front back is a classic track, just 2 street for the radio/t.v.
yea asap/motivation got no play pretty much. Also the video version was a remix, that included verses from P$C member's Macboney & Big Kuntry. Get Loose would of done better, because it's more single sounding, plus T.I. was already on tour with nelly at that time, so they even could of performed it together
Good thinking +1
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lol @ this thread gettin hijacked...when does Vs. drop??
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This shit is shaping to not be too good, i'll reserve my judegements until i hear the final product though
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I'm waiting for the 50 dick rider to come in here and say how it's good that he's branching out with these pop artists and how all we listen to is gangsta rap, pretty much they're typical dick riding.
I consider myself a pretty big fan of 50, and I gotta say I'm not too happy with this selection of pop artists. When he said he was gonna work outside of the camp, I thought maybe more guests rappers. 50 has already proved that he can sell well with pop records, imo alot of people are gonna be tired and /or disapoinnted in this.
+1 for being a 50 fan and not a dick rider. You're absolutely right. He already proved he could sell records, and he's fuckin' filthy rich. So why not go back and make a rap album, with actual rapper as guest appearances? Instead of some more radio friendly music.
Just because you disagree with something or someone, doesn't make that other person a dickrider, you opinion means shit to me, i'm lookin' forward to this album, i loved Timbo's album, so why not this one. 8)
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The only one I have a problem is, is Nicole from PCD. She is on a track with Buck and produced by Dre, so theres still hope.
Mary J., Eminem, Akon all dope. Robin Thicke is one of the most talented rnb acts out right now, his new LP is really good, plus that track with Lil Wayne is the shit.
And Justin ? If its like My Love than its all good. If its like Signs than its not good.
Do I like all these guests ? No. Will I judge it before I hear it ? No.
The funny things is how 50 is getting so much hate for working with those acts. But when I posted news about T.I.'s album where he has Ciara, Akon. R.Kelly and JT, it was quite calm.
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He said there was no point in creating an album focused too much on lyrics because people just want to have fun....this album is shaping up to be bs and i kind of liked get rich or die trying....before GRODT my ass, this album is gonna be horrible lol. What I can't understand is this is watered down curtis but surely he should be thinking that his fan base is so big, that he can sprinkle the album with a few friendly singles but also have lots of songs with focused hard hitting lyrics because his lyrics can be captivating when he bothers plus his flow sounds really lazy on a lot of recent stuff particular massacre ::)
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man that interview was in french???lol.......can someone say what he pretty much said?....about the production list...it sounds very strong, probably the strongest line up 50 cent ever had....i don't know about the direction 50 taking though still.....and i agree with detox cat, i will judge it AFTER i hear it....but we all know the detox homie is already feeling the album without hearing it,lol
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The only one I have a problem is, is Nicole from PCD. She is on a track with Buck and produced by Dre, so theres still hope.
Mary J., Eminem, Akon all dope. Robin Thicke is one of the most talented rnb acts out right now, his new LP is really good, plus that track with Lil Wayne is the shit.
And Justin ? If its like My Love than its all good. If its like Signs than its not good.
Do I like all these guests ? No. Will I judge it before I hear it ? No.
The funny things is how 50 is getting so much hate for working with those acts. But when I posted news about T.I.'s album where he has Ciara, Akon. R.Kelly and JT, it was quite calm.
For your explanation on T.I., check all the reasons listed above
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lol @ this thread gettin hijacked...when does Vs. drop??
T.I. vs. T.I.P. is set to drop July 3
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The only one I have a problem is, is Nicole from PCD. She is on a track with Buck and produced by Dre, so theres still hope.
Mary J., Eminem, Akon all dope. Robin Thicke is one of the most talented rnb acts out right now, his new LP is really good, plus that track with Lil Wayne is the shit.
And Justin ? If its like My Love than its all good. If its like Signs than its not good.
Do I like all these guests ? No. Will I judge it before I hear it ? No.
The funny things is how 50 is getting so much hate for working with those acts. But when I posted news about T.I.'s album where he has Ciara, Akon. R.Kelly and JT, it was quite calm.
im not sure where you get the hate from in this thread.
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lol @ this thread gettin hijacked...when does Vs. drop??
T.I. vs. T.I.P. is set to drop July 3
+1
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I'm waiting for the 50 dick rider to come in here and say how it's good that he's branching out with these pop artists and how all we listen to is gangsta rap, pretty much they're typical dick riding.
I consider myself a pretty big fan of 50, and I gotta say I'm not too happy with this selection of pop artists. When he said he was gonna work outside of the camp, I thought maybe more guests rappers. 50 has already proved that he can sell well with pop records, imo alot of people are gonna be tired and /or disapoinnted in this.
+1 for being a 50 fan and not a dick rider. You're absolutely right. He already proved he could sell records, and he's fuckin' filthy rich. So why not go back and make a rap album, with actual rapper as guest appearances? Instead of some more radio friendly music.
Just because you disagree with something or someone, doesn't make that other person a dickrider, you opinion means shit to me, i'm lookin' forward to this album, i loved Timbo's album, so why not this one. 8)
If my opinion means shit to you then why are you responding to my opinion? Some body got their feelings hurt. If I called anyone a dick rider it's cus they are. Now go run to your room wipe off your tears and bump "Candy Shop" again.
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Man those R&B guests are ass, not anybodt I'd put on Fiddy's records. They're all talented people and all that, but 50's fucking up here. Dude needs to take the grimy element he used to have before he went major, then take the top notch production that's available to him now, mash that shit up and make a record outta that.
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I'm waiting for the 50 dick rider to come in here and say how it's good that he's branching out with these pop artists and how all we listen to is gangsta rap, pretty much they're typical dick riding.
I consider myself a pretty big fan of 50, and I gotta say I'm not too happy with this selection of pop artists. When he said he was gonna work outside of the camp, I thought maybe more guests rappers. 50 has already proved that he can sell well with pop records, imo alot of people are gonna be tired and /or disapoinnted in this.
+1 for being a 50 fan and not a dick rider. You're absolutely right. He already proved he could sell records, and he's fuckin' filthy rich. So why not go back and make a rap album, with actual rapper as guest appearances? Instead of some more radio friendly music.
Just because you disagree with something or someone, doesn't make that other person a dickrider, you opinion means shit to me, i'm lookin' forward to this album, i loved Timbo's album, so why not this one. 8)
If my opinion means shit to you then why are you responding to my opinion? Some body got their feelings hurt. If I called anyone a dick rider it's cus they are. Now go run to your room wipe off your tears and bump "Candy Shop" again.
Candy Shop >>>>>>>>>>>> 75% of the hiphop comin' out right now.
At least he made a huge hit and earned hella cash with it. Everyone bit that song tryna make some cash as well, but they forgot to do they own thang, everyone hired Scott Storch after that, even your favorites, like The Game and Ice Cube. Give 50 some credits for knowin' how to market himself. Your argument don't hold shit, it's not even legit.
I responded to you cause what you said was too pathetic. i felt like i had to correct you. :-*
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People hate on 50 so much on these forums, but i guess a lot of people dick ride game