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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Connection => Topic started by: Sccit on August 08, 2019, 09:36:59 PM
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since it’s impossible to get all the legends in 1 list, i’m doin mine by region
https://www.instagram.com/p/B07OT6wnFi2/?igshid=1dw48xn138pj3
up next = bay area/norcal
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Pretty much my TOP 10.
Anyways, why do people get hurt by those lists that get online just to get your attention? Jay-Z #1? C'mon dude, at start, thats a joke.
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Pretty much my TOP 10.
Anyways, why do people get hurt by those lists that get online just to get your attention? Jay-Z #1? C'mon dude, at start, thats a joke.
lol just look at the comments on my ig post .. i got some1 saying “daz>pac” up in there
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interesting.
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just missed the list = goldie loc, chali 2na, mitchy slick
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Pretty much my TOP 10.
Anyways, why do people get hurt by those lists that get online just to get your attention? Jay-Z #1? C'mon dude, at start, thats a joke.
lol just look at the comments on my ig post .. i got some1 saying “daz>pac” up in there
And? It's that persons personal preference. Personally Pac wouldn't even make my top 50.
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Pretty much my TOP 10.
Anyways, why do people get hurt by those lists that get online just to get your attention? Jay-Z #1? C'mon dude, at start, thats a joke.
lol just look at the comments on my ig post .. i got some1 saying “daz>pac” up in there
Personally Pac wouldn't even make my top 50.
:snoopfacepalm:
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Pretty much my TOP 10.
Anyways, why do people get hurt by those lists that get online just to get your attention? Jay-Z #1? C'mon dude, at start, thats a joke.
lol just look at the comments on my ig post .. i got some1 saying “daz>pac” up in there
Personally Pac wouldn't even make my top 50.
:snoopfacepalm:
Problem?
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Pretty much my TOP 10.
Anyways, why do people get hurt by those lists that get online just to get your attention? Jay-Z #1? C'mon dude, at start, thats a joke.
lol just look at the comments on my ig post .. i got some1 saying “daz>pac” up in there
Personally Pac wouldn't even make my top 50.
:snoopfacepalm:
Problem?
yea.. that’s blasphemous
i’d love to see your list
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I've been workin' on a list for a while now. I'll try to get it done and I'll post it.
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This list is off. These rappers need to be on it.
Mr. Criminal
Sick Jacken
Defari
K-Dee
Nate Dogg
Slow Pain
Frank V
I can go on ...
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This list is off. These rappers need to be on it.
Mr. Criminal
Sick Jacken
Defari
K-Dee
Nate Dogg
Slow Pain
Frank V
I can go on ...
nate dogg is not a rapper
sick jacken and defari were right outside my top 50, along with mitchy slick, amg, knocturnal, hittman, goldie loc, chali 2na, foesum, lil half dead and a few others..... hard to narrow it down to 50 wit so many legends in the game.
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Not really arguing since it is all down to personal preference of course, but
This list is off. These rappers need to be on it.
Mr. Criminal
Slow Pain
Frank V
I can go on ...
Come on cuh....... also Nate was not a rapper, as pointed out already
since it’s impossible to get all the legends in 1 list, i’m doin mine by region
https://www.instagram.com/p/B07OT6wnFi2/?igshid=1dw48xn138pj3
up next = bay area/norcal
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Eazy won't even make my top 50, one of the most overrated rappers period imo. Pac and Snoop would be lower on my list. Bad Azz before Crooked I?! Kokane above Nip?! Murs, Young Maylay, Knoc-turn'al, Hopsin, Glasses Malone, Blu, Sly Boogy, Ab-Soul, Eligh, Jay Rock & maybe Twisted Insane woulda all made it to my list.
Interested in seeing your Norcal/Bay Area list when you make it, Sccit
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Not really arguing since it is all down to personal preference of course, but
This list is off. These rappers need to be on it.
Mr. Criminal
Slow Pain
Frank V
I can go on ...
Come on cuh....... also Nate was not a rapper, as pointed out already
since it’s impossible to get all the legends in 1 list, i’m doin mine by region
https://www.instagram.com/p/B07OT6wnFi2/?igshid=1dw48xn138pj3
up next = bay area/norcal
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Eazy won't even make my top 50, one of the most overrated rappers period imo. Pac and Snoop would be lower on my list. Bad Azz before Crooked I?! Kokane above Nip?! Murs, Young Maylay, Knoc-turn'al, Hopsin, Glasses Malone, Blu, Sly Boogy, Ab-Soul & maybe Twisted Insane woulda all made it to my list.
Interested in seeing your Norcal/Bay Area list when you make it, Sccit
please read my criteria ... legacy, impact, catalogue, and stature all factor into it. obviously, crooked i is a better pure emcee than eazy. but once u factor in the rest, eazy is a certified rap icon with classic albums and some of the most timeless songs in rap history.
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please read my criteria ... legacy, impact, catalogue, and stature all factor into it. obviously, crooked i is a better pure emcee than eazy. but once u factor in the rest, eazy is a certified rap icon with classic albums and some of the most timeless songs in rap history.
Yeah you are right, that changes things a lot actually and your list makes more sense in that case. I just looked at the IG link integrated in your post, never clicked on the link, so didn't realize you had all the criteria listed. Pac definitely top 1 in that case and whoever argues has to be a fool
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nice list 8)
you could even put Pac at 1 from NorCal, he repped it heavy early in his career
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Eazy won't even make my top 50, one of the most overrated rappers period imo. Pac and Snoop would be lower on my list. Bad Azz before Crooked I?! Kokane above Nip?! Murs, Young Maylay, Knoc-turn'al, Hopsin, Glasses Malone, Blu, Sly Boogy, Ab-Soul, Eligh, Jay Rock & maybe Twisted Insane woulda all made it to my list.
Interested in seeing your Norcal/Bay Area list when you make it, Sccit
I'd put Bad Azz above too. "Word On Tha Streetz", "Personal Business" and the LBC Crew album are all classics.
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Eazy won't even make my top 50, one of the most overrated rappers period imo. Pac and Snoop would be lower on my list. Bad Azz before Crooked I?! Kokane above Nip?! Murs, Young Maylay, Knoc-turn'al, Hopsin, Glasses Malone, Blu, Sly Boogy, Ab-Soul, Eligh, Jay Rock & maybe Twisted Insane woulda all made it to my list.
Interested in seeing your Norcal/Bay Area list when you make it, Sccit
I'd put Bad Azz above too. "Word On Tha Streetz", "Personal Business" and the LBC Crew album are all classics.
I did kind of agree with Sccit once he pointed out there was the extra criteria of having classic albums and impact being taken into consideration, so yeah in that case Bad Azz would be higher than Crooked on the list. On the other hand Bad Azz had a few good years and faded into obscurity whereas Crooked is increasingly more relevant even nowadays with a career spanning 23+ years. Not to mention being much better skill-wise and being as prolific as they come. His catalogue is rivaled by very few rappers overall (the likes of Lil Wayne, Snoop Dogg, Kurupt, Slim Thug, Chalie Boy possibly E-40 & Kokane) in terms of how many tracks he's put out/been on through the years.
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Mack 10 number 30. This list is way off.
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Eazy won't even make my top 50, one of the most overrated rappers period imo. Pac and Snoop would be lower on my list. Bad Azz before Crooked I?! Kokane above Nip?! Murs, Young Maylay, Knoc-turn'al, Hopsin, Glasses Malone, Blu, Sly Boogy, Ab-Soul, Eligh, Jay Rock & maybe Twisted Insane woulda all made it to my list.
Interested in seeing your Norcal/Bay Area list when you make it, Sccit
I'd put Bad Azz above too. "Word On Tha Streetz", "Personal Business" and the LBC Crew album are all classics.
I did kind of agree with Sccit once he pointed out there was the extra criteria of having classic albums and impact being taken into consideration, so yeah in that case Bad Azz would be higher than Crooked on the list. On the other hand Bad Azz had a few good years and faded into obscurity whereas Crooked is increasingly more relevant even nowadays with a career spanning 23+ years. Not to mention being much better skill-wise and being as prolific as they come. His catalogue is rivaled by very few rappers overall (the likes of Lil Wayne, Snoop Dogg, Kurupt, Slim Thug, Chalie Boy possibly E-40 & Kokane) in terms of how many tracks he's put out/been on through the years.
the problem wit crooked i is that he didn’t drop a solo in his prime and doesn’t have classic albums in his catalogue ala bad azz
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Mack 10 number 30. This list is way off.
what’s wrong with mack 10 at 30?? his first 2 or 3 albums are classix and bow down is a monumental album in west coast hip-hop.
lets see your list tho
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Good list, don't think anyone notable has been left out (apart from maybe Earl Sweatshirt but that's just personal preference). Was wondering why someone like Crooked I was so low down the list until I read the criteria for your entries.
MC Eiht should be higher on the list, but maybe I'm only saying that cos I've been listening to him heavy recently :D
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Good list, don't think anyone notable has been left out (apart from maybe Earl Sweatshirt but that's just personal preference). Was wondering why someone like Crooked I was so low down the list until I read the criteria for your entries.
MC Eiht should be higher on the list, but maybe I'm only saying that cos I've been listening to him heavy recently :D
some1 on boxden pointed out earl sweatshirt .. cant think of anyone i would remove for him
eiht is a certified legend, but bar for bar, most of the rappers above him (and a lot under him) are better pure emcees
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This list is off. These rappers need to be on it.
Mr. Criminal
Sick Jacken
Defari
K-Dee
Nate Dogg
Slow Pain
Frank V
I can go on ...
nate dogg is not a rapper
sick jacken and defari were right outside my top 50, along with mitchy slick, amg, knocturnal, hittman, goldie loc, chali 2na, foesum, lil half dead and a few others..... hard to narrow it down to 50 wit so many legends in the game.
Nate dogg not a rapper says it all. Nate was rapping but that’s what made him original.
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Mack 10 number 30. This list is way off.
what’s wrong with mack 10 at 30?? his first 2 or 3 albums are classix and bow down is a monumental album in west coast hip-hop.
lets see your list tho
Xzibit number 5 doesn’t even want me to argue with you but I have to respect your opinion. Keep it west coast
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I see your point about everything being included, but Suga Free is top 5 for me based on skills alone. Nobody does it like he does.
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I see your point about everything being included, but Suga Free is top 5 for me based on skills alone. Nobody does it like he does.
This was the SoCal list
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Interesting list, to say the least. There are some that I wouldn't have put on there or placed as high but there was definitely some thought put into it.
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I see your point about everything being included, but Suga Free is top 5 for me based on skills alone. Nobody does it like he does.
This was the SoCal list
suga free is from socal .. he’s number 12, which is actually pretty damn high
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This is a solid list. Very similar to my own
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List isn’t far from my own... but how can you say West Coast without Nate? Nate can not be categorized as an R&B or a soul singer like Mary J. The shit Nate does is the same as the Bone singing on a record and you wouldn’t say that Bone is R&B?
Now put the fallen legend in his proper place in the top 10
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List isn’t far from my own... but how can you say West Coast without Nate? Nate can not be categorized as an R&B or a soul singer like Mary J. The shit Nate does is the same as the Bone singing on a record and you wouldn’t say that Bone is R&B?
Now put the fallen legend in his proper place in the top 10
But Bone Thugz also (and predominantly) rap apart from singing on records. Nate has only ever rapped on one record unlike Kokane for example, it's apples and oranges really. If you put Nate on the list then Butch has to be on it too and once you get onto that side of the genre where would you stop ...Bo Roc, LV and so on
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List isn’t far from my own... but how can you say West Coast without Nate? Nate can not be categorized as an R&B or a soul singer like Mary J. The shit Nate does is the same as the Bone singing on a record and you wouldn’t say that Bone is R&B?
Now put the fallen legend in his proper place in the top 10
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bone thugs are rappers who harmonize, nate strictly sings.. so thats a terrible example.
just because nate is prominent in west coast hip-hop doesn’t make him a rapper. he would go on a singer list.
if u wanna put nate on there, we gota put butch cassidy, danny boy, bo roc, michel’le, anderson paak .. where do we draw the line?
if u consider nate an emcee, then ur not being genuine.
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List isn’t far from my own... but how can you say West Coast without Nate? Nate can not be categorized as an R&B or a soul singer like Mary J. The shit Nate does is the same as the Bone singing on a record and you wouldn’t say that Bone is R&B?
Now put the fallen legend in his proper place in the top 10
But Bone Thugz also (and predominantly) rap apart from singing on records. Nate has only ever rapped on one record unlike Kokane for example, it's apples and oranges really. If you put Nate on the list then Butch has to be on it too and once you get onto that side of the genre where would you stop ...Bo Roc, LV and so on
exactly
nate is not a rapper .. he’s said that himself.
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List isn’t far from my own... but how can you say West Coast without Nate? Nate can not be categorized as an R&B or a soul singer like Mary J. The shit Nate does is the same as the Bone singing on a record and you wouldn’t say that Bone is R&B?
Now put the fallen legend in his proper place in the top 10
But Bone Thugz also (and predominantly) rap apart from singing on records. Nate has only ever rapped on one record unlike Kokane for example, it's apples and oranges really. If you put Nate on the list then Butch has to be on it too and once you get onto that side of the genre where would you stop ...Bo Roc, LV and so on
Look, it's a bit subjective cause I do realize the dude is "singing" so I understand why some might not place him as a rapper.
...But everything else about Nate says he is a rapper. Production is hip-hop, collaborators are hip-hop (it's not like he was doing tracks with Whitney Houston and Brian Mcknight) styles are all hip-hop, demeanor is hip-hop, the fans of his music are rap fans not R&B fans, the same people that are listenin to Dogg Pound are the same people that are loyal to Nate. I mean everything about the dude is hip-hop, but just because he is singing on a record...
He should be called A RAPPER WHO SINGS!
It's all subjective and up to the journalists and marketing execs to figure out and if I remember correctly they did used to place him in the rap section of stores.
So my West Coast Rap list would have all them dudes on it like...
7. Nate
34. Kokane
39. Butch Cassidy
...something like that
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List isn’t far from my own... but how can you say West Coast without Nate? Nate can not be categorized as an R&B or a soul singer like Mary J. The shit Nate does is the same as the Bone singing on a record and you wouldn’t say that Bone is R&B?
Now put the fallen legend in his proper place in the top 10
But Bone Thugz also (and predominantly) rap apart from singing on records. Nate has only ever rapped on one record unlike Kokane for example, it's apples and oranges really. If you put Nate on the list then Butch has to be on it too and once you get onto that side of the genre where would you stop ...Bo Roc, LV and so on
collaborators are hip-hop (it's not like he was doing tracks with Whitney Houston and Brian Mcknight)
Lol come on now, are you even trying ;D ;D ;D
https://www.youtube.com/v/50E3X1qhCAM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50E3X1qhCAM)
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List isn’t far from my own... but how can you say West Coast without Nate? Nate can not be categorized as an R&B or a soul singer like Mary J. The shit Nate does is the same as the Bone singing on a record and you wouldn’t say that Bone is R&B?
Now put the fallen legend in his proper place in the top 10
But Bone Thugz also (and predominantly) rap apart from singing on records. Nate has only ever rapped on one record unlike Kokane for example, it's apples and oranges really. If you put Nate on the list then Butch has to be on it too and once you get onto that side of the genre where would you stop ...Bo Roc, LV and so on
Look, it's a bit subjective cause I do realize the dude is "singing" so I understand why some might not place him as a rapper.
...But everything else about Nate says he is a rapper. Production is hip-hop, collaborators are hip-hop (it's not like he was doing tracks with Whitney Houston and Brian Mcknight) styles are all hip-hop, demeanor is hip-hop, the fans of his music are rap fans not R&B fans, the same people that are listenin to Dogg Pound are the same people that are loyal to Nate. I mean everything about the dude is hip-hop, but just because he is singing on a record...
He should be called A RAPPER WHO SINGS!
It's all subjective and up to the journalists and marketing execs to figure out and if I remember correctly they did used to place him in the rap section of stores.
So my West Coast Rap list would have all them dudes on it like...
7. Nate
34. Kokane
39. Butch Cassidy
...something like that
kokane actually raps tho, thats why he’s on my list.
and if u heard g-funk classics vol 1 & 2, u would see that nate actually did collaborate/had his share of duets with only singers. and yes, he even had a duet with brian mcknight lol.
hip-hop soul/gangsta soul ..... that’s what its defined as when your collaborators/production is rap oriented, but you’re straight singing.
nate has corrected people in the past when they called him a rapper.
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It’s true. Even to this day if you go into Ameoba or any other record store Nate will be in the Hip Hop section
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It’s true. Even to this day if you go into Ameoba or any other record store Nate will be in the Hip Hop section
yup .. because of the features and production
he’s still not a rapper tho
even funnier, anderson paak actually raps and his music is in the r&b section
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It’s true. Even to this day if you go into Ameoba or any other record store Nate will be in the Hip Hop section
hip-hop ≠ rap tho
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this is HIS list.
make your own man.
(to everybody)
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since it’s impossible to get all the legends in 1 list, i’m doin mine by region
https://www.instagram.com/p/B07OT6wnFi2/?igshid=1dw48xn138pj3
up next = bay area/norcal
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Dope list would put Game in 1/2nd depending on my Pac mood. 2 Favorite rappers.
and remove Fatlip, Tone Loc, Domino & Suga Free(not my kind of rappers)
Would add King Lil G, Glasses Malone, Skeme, Schoolboy Q, YG & Jay Rock
But I am hard pressed to add names and remove others and in a top 50 thats crasy. - I do not agree on order tho =)