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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Jome on September 16, 2004, 05:35:45 PM
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This is why:
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Parchin, Teheran
The possibilities for attack and dates are being discussed in Washington.
American nuclear expert David Albright says "Parchin could be a place where nuclear weapons are being developed, tested and researched".
Bush said on a earlier point that "We can not tolerate that Iran makes nuclear weapons"
Targets in Iran is already being scheduled and planned, and co-operation with Israel is being considered. (Israel is also a nuclear power)
U.S. came to agreements with U.K., France, Germany about a resolution about Iran's nuclear program.
31st of October is being mentioned as a deadline for Iran to co-operate, and allow even more inspections.
Source: VG/NTB
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This smells Iraq a mile away..
How many months left, I say.. co-operation or not. :-\
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Attacking Iran was one of the reasons for invading Iraq.
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ok lets take bets ... i say.. right before election.. and if hes president.. god help iran
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The thing is this. Invading iran wouldnt be as easy as invading iraq.
It sucks to be in the position of president nowadays. I would never be it. Nuclear and terrorism threats everywhere.
How long do you wait before you stop a country from becoming a nuclear threat?
wait too long and you are critized for letting the worst happen. Attack too soon and be critisized for attacking a defenseless country.
let's see how this one plays out. hopefully if this gets worse, countries back us up.
This is the world we live in....
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LET the countdown to the draft begin
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you see... i don't think they will invade iran... not yet at least... they'll probably just attack some targets :)
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Well if Iran is only starting to build, then the US will just bomb the plants.
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China, France, England and the United States all have nukes. We should get rid of all of their weapons first, especially the U.S., since they have been showing a very agressive nature as of late. On the real, what are we afraid of. We viewed the Soviet Union as a greater threat than this little countries. If they lay on nuke, then we'll have them a black waste field in a matter of minutes. They know that. Iran well not attack the U.S. Bin Laden did because he knew we couldn't find him. It's like Saddam, he would have never attacked us because he had too much to lose, and he lost it. His sons, his mansions, his country. Now his in jail, aging very fast. Iran is the same way. And the political make up of Iran is not stable anyways. I mean, they have young college students protesting for democracy. They will fit themselves, why indanger more American lives just because we are scared of a threat that is not there.
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you really have fucking no clue what you're talking about. remember the last iranian elections??????????????????????????
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More billions towards useless warfare HORAAAAAAAAAY!!!
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i think Iran will really get involved in this with the US, possibly start involving neighbouring countries as well, this move would startle the Arab nations, and in time oil-rich nations would begin to invest their oil into Euros. America's casualties would increase dramatically...I don't like the sound of this....
THe only reason i dont want america to get involved in the war is since im in Canada and our economy is dependant on US...time to immigrate to Sweden or Switserland or Norway or Finland....
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This is a bullshit post, wherever you grabbed it from. The quotes are obviously translated out of another language, and talks in Washington of invading Iran would be the first thing John Kerry would be talking about right now on the campaign trail, if they were true. Conclusion: They must not be true, or they'd be talking about it everywhere.
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you really have fucking no clue what you're talking about. remember the last iranian elections??????????????????????????
M dogg just explained to you what the situation is and you respond with a useless question?
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This is a bullshit post, wherever you grabbed it from. The quotes are obviously translated out of another language, and talks in Washington of invading Iran would be the first thing John Kerry would be talking about right now on the campaign trail, if they were true. Conclusion: They must not be true, or they'd be talking about it everywhere.
Far from bullshit.
Yes, it's translated from Norwegian, from a very credible newspaper, and the information is brand new.
I cut out the yada yada babbling, and kept the important parts, obviously not in a journalistic language.
What strikes me, is that I almost never see a lot of this news on CNN, it's like they're holding certain news back on purpose.
The Iran resolution news ticked in 1 hour before the thread was made, so I can understand that they were late on that one though.
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i'd be against this war, no reason to war, strong arm them into submission like Libya , but not another war
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i'd be against this war, no reason to war, strong arm them into submission like Libya , but not another war
I agree with your stane, however carnal, Libya was not strong armed into submission, as Bush would have you believe.
The Libyans have been tryin to smooth out their shit on the P-R tip for a while now, the nuke program was their Ace of Spades.
It was a Euro/Libyan dialogue that led to the dismantling.
You know Qadhafi is a genius. Those weapons were useless to Qadhafi. Only thing he couldve done was scorch Italy. He wasnt hitting the Israelis with em. He just always had em as a trump card. Give up the weapons and go from Pariah to Pimp, crazy man.
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i'd be against this war, no reason to war, strong arm them into submission like Libya , but not another war
Give up the weapons and go from Pariah to Pimp, crazy man.
i know huh he went from militant Mumar to my nigga Mumar, politics aside he's got to be the coolest looking leader since Teddy Rosevelt , those hawaiin shirts and sun glasses are 8)
it's almost like he should be the president of Cuba
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you really have fucking no clue what you're talking about. remember the last iranian elections??????????????????????????
M dogg just explained to you what the situation is and you respond with a useless question?
The religious leaders in Iran disclosed many many people from participating with the elections and they disclosed many people from voting.
You tell me that was a useless question? :loser:
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iran is no threat to america, and america would have only one supporting partner if i chose to invade and trhat would be israel
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people give me 1 reason why.. just why. god I hate this government.
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This is a bullshit post, wherever you grabbed it from. The quotes are obviously translated out of another language, and talks in Washington of invading Iran would be the first thing John Kerry would be talking about right now on the campaign trail, if they were true. Conclusion: They must not be true, or they'd be talking about it everywhere.
Some people still don't see the big picture. The Republicans and Democrats may disagree on abortion but when it comes to their alliance with the state of Isreal they are one, unified organization, working to serve a zionist agenda. Kerry (who's brother Cameron Kerry is Jewish) is as big of a puppet for Isreal as Bush is!
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Kerry (who's brother Cameron Kerry is Jewish) is as big of a puppet for Isreal as Bush is!
:laugh:
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people give me 1 reason why.. just why. god I hate this government.
This is why:
American nuclear expert David Albright says "Parchin could be a place where nuclear weapons are being developed, tested and researched".
Bush said on a earlier point that "We can not tolerate that Iran makes nuclear weapons"Targets in Iran is already being scheduled and planned, and co-operation with Israel is being considered. (Israel is also a nuclear power)
;D
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^you can be such a bitch
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you really have fucking no clue what you're talking about. remember the last iranian elections??????????????????????????
M dogg just explained to you what the situation is and you respond with a useless question?
The religious leaders in Iran disclosed many many people from participating with the elections and they disclosed many people from voting.
You tell me that was a useless question? :loser:
Democracy comes out of revolution, and if they denie people to vote, those people will be the ones that lead a revolt. Though out history, democracy is born off of what is happening.
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Get your fingers down from your forehead and pay attention.
"remember the last iranian election?" what does that have to do with anything. It doesnt dispute the fact that Iranian students are a massive gathering force that will assist in Iranian society changing from within./ What about the last iranian elections? so what that it was not 100% accurate. If you are opposing the inefficiency of their election, then youre in favour of them having a democracy. So, how can such a democracy exist in a country with previously no experience what soever. Iranian systems of govt looks like a fuckin neoliberal utopia compared to the emirs and dictators that run the show. They are tasting democracy for the first time, let them eat how they want.
See what happens when you completely miss the point about a topic you have no business discussing?? :)
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do you really think that democracy will happen w/o help from outside? you are such a moron...
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Yeah.. I do remember the last Iranian election. It was 1953. Muhammad Mosedeg was democratically elected the leader of Iran. Then the United States and Britian formented a coup, overthrew him, and replaced him with an oppressive dictator, the Shah, who ruled Iran in tyrannical fashion for almost 3 decades until the people of the country united together and overthrew him from power in 1979.
(Then America gave weapons of mass destruction to Sadaam Hussien, playing a key role in a war against Iran that would last 9 years)
Need I continue?
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If you bastards hate America so much, why don't you take us out? Huh?...why doesn't England, Canada, France, Germany...shit all of Europe...band together, take America out, and claim the land for yourselves? Our strong economy can be replaced by you guys...all you gotta do is take America out.
Oh, thats right...because America would kick ALL your asses. Too bad, deal with it. We're the strongest country in the world, and while we are, we're gonna do WHATEVER the fuck we want. If you don't like it...I don't know what to tell you...go hit a pillow and pretend it's America.
But seriously though, yes, I would OPPOSE a war with Iran. Their piece-of-shit third world nukes couldn't harm America, at least not directly. So, why go attack Iran, get thousands of more Americans killed, just for IRAN's nuclear-weapons program. I mean, come on...its fucking IRAN! And yes...same damn thing with Iraq...even if they had nukes, they couldn't, and wouldn't attack America.
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^^ so if someone is stronger, he can do whatever the fuck he wants? oh, that's of course a point where every sense of argue becomes useless. it's of course the easiest way. I mean, since you cant deny that attacking Iraq was bullshit, and attack Iran would be bullshit, you sure can do it since youre the stronger country. Yippie-yay.
but then again, you have to consider it works for everything. If you're the stronger kid, you can punch of course the little kids in the face at school. for no reason whatsoever. why not? you're stronger. If you have the better weapons, like military rifles which are now also legal in america, you can also shoot ppl who dont have such powerful weapons at hand. babies of course too, since youre much stronger than them. and to make this analogy even more genius and perfect: just claim you had to shoot this ppl with your AK since they had a knife. Nothing will go to court or anything or course. Since you obviously have the right to do it, since you're .. remember.. stronger.
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rember.. 1 person does not represent the whole county... as in.. i disagree with him
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Yeah.. I do remember the last Iranian election. It was 1953. Muhammad Mosedeg was democratically elected the leader of Iran. Then the United States and Britian formented a coup, overthrew him, and replaced him with an oppressive dictator, the Shah, who ruled Iran in tyrannical fashion for almost 3 decades until the people of the country united together and overthrew him from power in 1979.
(Then America gave weapons of mass destruction to Sadaam Hussien, playing a key role in a war against Iran that would last 9 years)
Need I continue?
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^^ so if someone is stronger, he can do whatever the fuck he wants? oh, that's of course a point where every sense of argue becomes useless. it's of course the easiest way. I mean, since you cant deny that attacking Iraq was bullshit, and attack Iran would be bullshit, you sure can do it since youre the stronger country. Yippie-yay.
but then again, you have to consider it works for everything. If you're the stronger kid, you can punch of course the little kids in the face at school. for no reason whatsoever. why not? you're stronger. If you have the better weapons, like military rifles which are now also legal in america, you can also shoot ppl who dont have such powerful weapons at hand. babies of course too, since youre much stronger than them. and to make this analogy even more genius and perfect: just claim you had to shoot this ppl with your AK since they had a knife. Nothing will go to court or anything or course. Since you obviously have the right to do it, since you're .. remember.. stronger.
that's sort of how it works in the animal kingdom (minus the guns and shit)
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This is what I think is gunna happen.
First, Bush is gunna get Relected :)
Then the US is gunna ask the UN to can inspect there Nuclear Facilities. If they say no(which they will) then as soon as Iraq has its elections and shit, Iraq they will declare war on Iran. When this happens, the US will become an Ally with Iraq against Iran. Done.
Also, for you people that think having a Battle with Iran is pointless ans stupid:
Iran is the "most active state sponsor of terrorism." Iran continues to provide funding, weapons, training, and sanctuary to numerous terrorist groups based in the Middle East and elsewhere. Iran mostly backs Islamist groups, including the Lebanese Shiite militants of Hezbollah (which Iran helped found in the 1980s). such Palestinian terrorist groups as Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad and Al-Qaeda. Iran possesses chemicals that can induce bleeding, blistering, and choking, as well as the bombs and artillery shells to deliver these agents. Iran also has an active biological weapons program, driven in part by its acquisition of "dual-use" technologies—supplies and machinery that can be put to either harmless or deadly uses. Finally, with help from Russia, Iran is building a nuclear power plant, but U.S. officials say that Iran is more interested in developing a nuclear weapon than in producing nuclear energy.
The threat is that if Iran gets a hold of a Nuke they will sell it to a terrorist group like al-Qaeda and use it on America or Israel.
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This is what I think is gunna happen.
First, Bush is gunna get Relected :)
Then the US is gunna ask the UN to can inspect there Nuclear Facilities. If they say no(which they will) then as soon as Iraq has its elections and shit, Iraq they will declare war on Iran. When this happens, the US will become an Ally with Iraq against Iran. Done.
Also, for you people that think having a Battle with Iran is pointless ans stupid:
Iran is the "most active state sponsor of terrorism." Iran continues to provide funding, weapons, training, and sanctuary to numerous terrorist groups based in the Middle East and elsewhere. Iran mostly backs Islamist groups, including the Lebanese Shiite militants of Hezbollah (which Iran helped found in the 1980s). such Palestinian terrorist groups as Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad and Al-Qaeda. Iran possesses chemicals that can induce bleeding, blistering, and choking, as well as the bombs and artillery shells to deliver these agents. Iran also has an active biological weapons program, driven in part by its acquisition of "dual-use" technologies—supplies and machinery that can be put to either harmless or deadly uses. Finally, with help from Russia, Iran is building a nuclear power plant, but U.S. officials say that Iran is more interested in developing a nuclear weapon than in producing nuclear energy.
The threat is that if Iran gets a hold of a Nuke they will sell it to a terrorist group like al-Qaeda and use it on America or Israel.
but the US has had slavery and they dropped two nuclear bombs on japan
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but the US has had slavery and they dropped two nuclear bombs on japan
LoL
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Fuck...
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Shut up Johnny Walker
Yeah.. I do remember the last Iranian election. It was 1953. Muhammad Mosedeg was democratically elected the leader of Iran. Then the United States and Britian formented a coup, overthrew him, and replaced him with an oppressive dictator, the Shah, who ruled Iran in tyrannical fashion for almost 3 decades until the people of the country united together and overthrew him from power in 1979.
(Then America gave weapons of mass destruction to Sadaam Hussien, playing a key role in a war against Iran that would last 9 years)
Need I continue?
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Conclusions from this thread:
1. Mauzip is immune to logic. Logic could be staring you in the eyes Mauzipper, and you wouldnt recognize him. Tech could pull Mauzipper aside at a dinner party , and be like,
Tech: Yo, Mauzipper, let me introduce you to my friend, Logic, here.
Mauzipper: Rubs eyes, blinks, Rolls eyes
2. Arterey has the IQ of an aborted fetus. Make sure that nuclear bunker in your trailer park is fully operational. Never know when the combined military might of Canada and Australiia will destroy your society!!!
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Conclusions from this thread:
1. Mauzip is immune to logic. Logic could be staring you in the eyes Mauzipper, and you wouldnt recognize him. Tech could pull Mauzipper aside at a dinner party , and be like,
Tech: Yo, Mauzipper, let me introduce you to my friend, Logic, here.
Mauzipper: Rubs eyes, blinks, Rolls eyes
lmao..
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Fuck...
Astute Observation!
Thumbs Up!!
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I like how USA is able to attack countries that have weapons that are a real threat....interesting...if they were a real threat wouldnt they be able to use these weapons to retaliate?....isnt this why we didnt attack the Soviet in the Cold war? I mean it proves a point with Iraq, they new they didnt have WMD's, im sure sudaam would have loved to use them if he did. And it wasnt WMD's they gave to Iraq to go to war with us aka Iran, it was Chemical Weapons tho, if same thing then ok ya same deal whateva. And the hezbollah in which they support in lebanon is lebanese people defending the border from the damn jews, woop dee doo?
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Within 2 days of the launch of Operation Iraqi freedom or whatever the fuck it was called, you knew there was no WMD. Because if there was anything, Kuwait wouldve got it. There is no way Saddam wouldve went out without smacking the Kuwaitis.