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Lifestyle => Tha G-Spot => Topic started by: Hack Wilson - real on June 07, 2013, 05:00:03 PM
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/father-22-children-14-women-sued-support-article-1.1365207
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Well the meaning of life is to continue life...
So he's doing what's only natural.
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What's not natural or not smart is having kids YOU CAN'T AFFORD! Natural for mexicans & ghetto blacks.
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What's your problem dude? Why you always want to post the negative? I mean, sure we know the world is fucked up.. is it just that you want to point the finger at someone who is even more fucked up than you are?
I heard enough bad shit today. I mean, I don't want you to be fake and act like everything is perfect in the world. But don't use other people, you should use yourself. Why don't you tell us how fucked up you are instead of pointing the finger?
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What's not natural or not smart is having kids YOU CAN'T AFFORD! Natural for mexicans & ghetto blacks.
WTF. I should smack the shit out your mouth for that.
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What's your problem dude? Why you always want to post the negative? I mean, sure we know the world is fucked up.. is it just that you want to point the finger at someone who is even more fucked up than you are?
I heard enough bad shit today. I mean, I don't want you to be fake and act like everything is perfect in the world. But don't use other people, you should use yourself. Why don't you tell us how fucked up you are instead of pointing the finger?
you're just jealous someone else is more of a deadbeat dad than you are
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I DA PAPPY
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I DA PAPPY
I watched that shit over the weekend. Underrated movie to me. Funny as fuck.
You gonna eat your cornbread?
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What's not natural or not smart is having kids YOU CAN'T AFFORD! Natural for mexicans & ghetto blacks.
WTF. I should smack the shit out your mouth for that.
what part of that was a lie? now how he phrased it may have come out harsh but on the real, people who are uneducated are the ones having babies they can afford and depend on the government to help raise the kids they cant afford. And then you have those kids growing up not contributing to society and the cycles starts all over again. its not their fault their born in their environment but its the choices people make to get of that environment that makes the difference and get educated. I woke up and read this article and yahoo and i want to help but the reality is, they need to help their selves first.
http://news.yahoo.com/nations-breadbasket-latinos-stuck-poverty-120309988.html (http://news.yahoo.com/nations-breadbasket-latinos-stuck-poverty-120309988.html)
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What's not natural or not smart is having kids YOU CAN'T AFFORD! Natural for mexicans & ghetto blacks.
WTF. I should smack the shit out your mouth for that.
Mdogg - this is reality, and you know it. If it hurts, i understand. But dont act like it aint true. Read that article linked above my post, youre educated right? This should be easy to understand.
Brian - You dont even know your own religion. “May Allah’s mercy be upon that person who offers a gift to me by pointing out my own mistakes and shortcomings.” - Jafar al Sadiq. You should grow some humbleness, my son.
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What's not natural or not smart is having kids YOU CAN'T AFFORD! Natural for mexicans & ghetto blacks.
octomom is neither mexican or black.
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What's not natural or not smart is having kids YOU CAN'T AFFORD! Natural for mexicans & ghetto blacks.
octomom is neither mexican or black.
middle eastern
finding one outlier to disprove a theory doesnt work.
nice try though.
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What's not natural or not smart is having kids YOU CAN'T AFFORD! Natural for mexicans & ghetto blacks.
WTF. I should smack the shit out your mouth for that.
Mdogg - this is reality, and you know it. If it hurts, i understand. But dont act like it aint true. Read that article linked above my post, youre educated right? This should be easy to understand.
Brian - You dont even know your own religion. “May Allah’s mercy be upon that person who offers a gift to me by pointing out my own mistakes and shortcomings.” - Jafar al Sadiq. You should grow some humbleness, my son.
Right, because this is how everyone I know is. If you think this is true, you ain't never knew Mexicans or blacks. For real, only people who only see minorities on Maury think this is how everyone is.
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What's not natural or not smart is having kids YOU CAN'T AFFORD! Natural for mexicans & ghetto blacks.
WTF. I should smack the shit out your mouth for that.
Mdogg - this is reality, and you know it. If it hurts, i understand. But dont act like it aint true. Read that article linked above my post, youre educated right? This should be easy to understand.
Brian - You dont even know your own religion. “May Allah’s mercy be upon that person who offers a gift to me by pointing out my own mistakes and shortcomings.” - Jafar al Sadiq. You should grow some humbleness, my son.
Right, because this is how everyone I know is. If you think this is true, you ain't never knew Mexicans or blacks. For real, only people who only see minorities on Maury think this is how everyone is.
look at the article posted above. they fabricated that info mdogg or what?
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I DA PAPPY
I watched that shit over the weekend. Underrated movie to me. Funny as fuck.
You gonna eat your cornbread?
one of my all time faves.
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What's not natural or not smart is having kids YOU CAN'T AFFORD! Natural for mexicans & ghetto blacks.
WTF. I should smack the shit out your mouth for that.
Mdogg - this is reality, and you know it. If it hurts, i understand. But dont act like it aint true. Read that article linked above my post, youre educated right? This should be easy to understand.
Brian - You dont even know your own religion. “May Allah’s mercy be upon that person who offers a gift to me by pointing out my own mistakes and shortcomings.” - Jafar al Sadiq. You should grow some humbleness, my son.
Right, because this is how everyone I know is. If you think this is true, you ain't never knew Mexicans or blacks. For real, only people who only see minorities on Maury think this is how everyone is.
look at the article posted above. they fabricated that info mdogg or what?
One person. LOL
All studies show that the trend of black dead beat dads is HIGHLY overrated. We are in the middle of generational change. So well there was some truth to Maury and that talk show 20-30 years ago, things are changing in the community.
Despite 56% of African-American households being headed by single mothers, the Philadelphia Inquirer recently reported on research that found that "African American fathers, more than any other group, are more likely to maintain lasting relationships with their children when they don't live with them."
http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/study-there-are-fewer-deadbeat-dads-2073459.html
62% of custodial mothers do not receive child support. However, of that number, three-fourths of them simply do not want child support, have not asked for it, have accepted other financial arrangements instead of child support, or the father does not have the money. Only 11% of those custodial mothers who do not receive child support, is because of "deadbeat dads".
http://deltabravo.net/cms/plugins/content/content.php?content.282
http://www.hoopsvibe.com/nba-news-and-rumors/articles/170423-scott-skiles-done-in-milwaukee
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/bristol-palin-levi-johnston-owes-thousands-child-support-article-1.1057899
http://www.tmz.com/2011/08/04/val-kilmer-ex-wife-joanne-whalley-divorced-lien-child-support-deadbeat-dad-payments-new-mexico/
http://www.thefrisky.com/2012-05-07/francois-henri-pinault-the-richest-douchiest-deadbeat-dad-ever/
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/08/jon-gosselin-broke-rock-bottom-rent/
http://www.tmz.com/2012/12/15/edward-furlong-custody-cocaine/
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-moms/news/britney-spears-joins-ex-husband-kevin-federline-and-his-girlfriend-victoria-prince-at-sons-soccer-game-pictures-201353
dead beat dads know no race.
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What's not natural or not smart is having kids YOU CAN'T AFFORD! Natural for mexicans & ghetto blacks.
WTF. I should smack the shit out your mouth for that.
Mdogg - this is reality, and you know it. If it hurts, i understand. But dont act like it aint true. Read that article linked above my post, youre educated right? This should be easy to understand.
Brian - You dont even know your own religion. “May Allah’s mercy be upon that person who offers a gift to me by pointing out my own mistakes and shortcomings.” - Jafar al Sadiq. You should grow some humbleness, my son.
Right, because this is how everyone I know is. If you think this is true, you ain't never knew Mexicans or blacks. For real, only people who only see minorities on Maury think this is how everyone is.
look at the article posted above. they fabricated that info mdogg or what?
One person. LOL
All studies show that the trend of black dead beat dads is HIGHLY overrated. We are in the middle of generational change. So well there was some truth to Maury and that talk show 20-30 years ago, things are changing in the community.
Despite 56% of African-American households being headed by single mothers, the Philadelphia Inquirer recently reported on research that found that "African American fathers, more than any other group, are more likely to maintain lasting relationships with their children when they don't live with them."
http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/study-there-are-fewer-deadbeat-dads-2073459.html
62% of custodial mothers do not receive child support. However, of that number, three-fourths of them simply do not want child support, have not asked for it, have accepted other financial arrangements instead of child support, or the father does not have the money. Only 11% of those custodial mothers who do not receive child support, is because of "deadbeat dads".
http://deltabravo.net/cms/plugins/content/content.php?content.282
http://www.hoopsvibe.com/nba-news-and-rumors/articles/170423-scott-skiles-done-in-milwaukee
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/bristol-palin-levi-johnston-owes-thousands-child-support-article-1.1057899
http://www.tmz.com/2011/08/04/val-kilmer-ex-wife-joanne-whalley-divorced-lien-child-support-deadbeat-dad-payments-new-mexico/
http://www.thefrisky.com/2012-05-07/francois-henri-pinault-the-richest-douchiest-deadbeat-dad-ever/
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/08/jon-gosselin-broke-rock-bottom-rent/
http://www.tmz.com/2012/12/15/edward-furlong-custody-cocaine/
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-moms/news/britney-spears-joins-ex-husband-kevin-federline-and-his-girlfriend-victoria-prince-at-sons-soccer-game-pictures-201353
dead beat dads know no race.
:laugh:
I was talking about HAVING A SHIT TON OF KIDS ESPECIALLY ONES U CANT PAY FOR, not necessarily without a dad.
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What's not natural or not smart is having kids YOU CAN'T AFFORD! Natural for mexicans & ghetto blacks.
WTF. I should smack the shit out your mouth for that.
Mdogg - this is reality, and you know it. If it hurts, i understand. But dont act like it aint true. Read that article linked above my post, youre educated right? This should be easy to understand.
Brian - You dont even know your own religion. “May Allah’s mercy be upon that person who offers a gift to me by pointing out my own mistakes and shortcomings.” - Jafar al Sadiq. You should grow some humbleness, my son.
Right, because this is how everyone I know is. If you think this is true, you ain't never knew Mexicans or blacks. For real, only people who only see minorities on Maury think this is how everyone is.
look at the article posted above. they fabricated that info mdogg or what?
One person. LOL
All studies show that the trend of black dead beat dads is HIGHLY overrated. We are in the middle of generational change. So well there was some truth to Maury and that talk show 20-30 years ago, things are changing in the community.
Despite 56% of African-American households being headed by single mothers, the Philadelphia Inquirer recently reported on research that found that "African American fathers, more than any other group, are more likely to maintain lasting relationships with their children when they don't live with them."
http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/study-there-are-fewer-deadbeat-dads-2073459.html
62% of custodial mothers do not receive child support. However, of that number, three-fourths of them simply do not want child support, have not asked for it, have accepted other financial arrangements instead of child support, or the father does not have the money. Only 11% of those custodial mothers who do not receive child support, is because of "deadbeat dads".
http://deltabravo.net/cms/plugins/content/content.php?content.282
http://www.hoopsvibe.com/nba-news-and-rumors/articles/170423-scott-skiles-done-in-milwaukee
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/bristol-palin-levi-johnston-owes-thousands-child-support-article-1.1057899
http://www.tmz.com/2011/08/04/val-kilmer-ex-wife-joanne-whalley-divorced-lien-child-support-deadbeat-dad-payments-new-mexico/
http://www.thefrisky.com/2012-05-07/francois-henri-pinault-the-richest-douchiest-deadbeat-dad-ever/
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/08/jon-gosselin-broke-rock-bottom-rent/
http://www.tmz.com/2012/12/15/edward-furlong-custody-cocaine/
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-moms/news/britney-spears-joins-ex-husband-kevin-federline-and-his-girlfriend-victoria-prince-at-sons-soccer-game-pictures-201353
dead beat dads know no race.
:laugh:
I was talking about HAVING A SHIT TON OF KIDS ESPECIALLY ONES U CANT PAY FOR, not necessarily without a dad.
And as everything points to, that's decreasing. You are talking about a rarity now. With that said, it is how men were programmed, so it sill happens. My grandfather had 9 kids from 3 women, and that was normal then. It's how men were programmed, and it's still pretty much the way it is in the majority of the world, no matter the color of skin. Do you fantasize about more than one woman, that's how you were programmed. With that said, these treads are going down, even in the African American community. Dead beat dad numbers are declining fast and it looks like only a very few men still do that kind of stuff.
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Fantasizing about being with more than one women is one thing. Having a shit ton of babies and not being there for them is another.
What's the point of having babies if you can't raise them right. Being there for your family, being a positive male figure in your house and setting standards. But naw male minorities think its cool to get some pussy get the bitch pregnant and not be there for the innocent child that caught in the middle of two horny addolesance who don't know any better.
I blame the parents who don't teach these kids but its more than just educating yourself. I know minorities have it harder as it is to make in society but it is possible for some to make out and that's through higher education. Only the strong make it out. As for the rest that don't, that's part of the balance of life. Somebody has to clean your local McDonald's and keep my lawn immaculate clean. And I'm Mexican by the way. Born and East L.A and raised in west side of Whittier so I know what I'm talking about, and i have family that's stereo typical to what Latinos are but it is what it is. I'm not a statistic because that was my choice and I knew better thanks to my cuzzins fucking up and learning from them. Life goes on.
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Fantasizing about being with more than one women is one thing. Having a shit ton of babies and not being there for them is another.
What's the point of having babies if you can't raise them right. Being there for your family, being a positive male figure in your house and setting standards. But naw male minorities think its cool to get some pussy get the bitch pregnant and not be there for the innocent child that caught in the middle of two horny addolesance who don't know any better.
I blame the parents who don't teach these kids but its more than just educating yourself. I know minorities have it harder as it is to make in society but it is possible for some to make out and that's through higher education. Only the strong make it out. As for the rest that don't, that's part of the balance of life. Somebody has to clean your local McDonald's and keep my lawn immaculate clean. And I'm Mexican by the way. Born and East L.A and raised in west side of Whittier so I know what I'm talking about, and i have family that's stereo typical to what Latinos are but it is what it is. I'm not a statistic because that was my choice and I knew better thanks to my cuzzins fucking up and learning from them. Life goes on.
See, but what's funny is that it may be the mentality, and we may think that's how it just is, but in reality dudes are really only having kids with one or two girls. I have lots of old friends who aren't married to their baby mama's, but they only have 2-3 kids with 2 women. yeah they were on that, let's get pussy shit, but it wasn't as extreme as people want to make it out to be.
And being a statistic, statistics are now showing minority dads are there for their kids. There are still some knuckle heads, I know a few and I'm sure everyone else does, but they are not the rule. And these knuckle heads exist in the white world too.
And this is how racism is born. Racism makes people feel superior over others because they say stupid shit like minorities having babies they can't support, like one make having 22 kids means all black men are having 22 kids. Nah man, that's one person, but the reality is that those stereotypes aren't happening as much as they use to, and when they do it happens in all communities and races, not just minorities.
And fantasizing is one thing, but let me tell you something, I'm a married man with one kid and another on the way. I have a masters and I have job at a college. But that don't mean that I ain't tempted. Trust me, my wife ain't lost the weight from the first pregnancy, since then I have been tempted like crazy. But it takes a lot of will power to stay faithful in a marriage. Not everyone is that good. Neither of my grandfathers were. In the old days, songs were dedicated to killing off wives. Modern men have seen marriage as a ball and chain, and that's common white people language.
http://www.truthaboutdeception.com/cheating-and-infidelity/stats-about-infidelity.html
Consider that these stats are only about marriage, and that minorities are less likely to get married as blacks have the lowest marriage rates and they are also only a small percentage of the population.
http://www.statisticbrain.com/marriage-statistics/
Meaning the 2-3% of kids born of cheating marriages are more than likely white. So cheating is cheating, getting pussy is getting pussy, and biology sees no race, income levels, neighborhood or anything else. We only look at the black community because we can "other" them, point to them and say... "look at those ignorant negros, they only want to get pussy and not take care of the babies." Well isn't that nice, because that's how men around the world are programmed and that's how it's going to be. When I worked with a scientist and his old ass was talking about how fine Christina looked on The Voice, I called him out and he simply said, "Hey, it's all biology my friend, it's all biology."
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^^ respect M dogg. I may have singled out the minorities on this one but it goes for all races too and lol Maury and Jerry springer exploites white trash like a muthafucka and they are not exempt. But I just look at my community and the stores around here and I see my people in this shit so I'm going based on what I see with my own eyes. Respect for getting your masters. I just got my AA in business management and going for my bachelors in the winter. I'm also married with no kids. After I'm done with my education then ill see about kids but for now I'm cool. I'm doing this shit right.
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Look mdogg, latino population is exploding (citation - the yahoo article posted above by 187) and so is latino poverty (citation - the article above by 187). Why not just say "alotta folks in my race have a problem with having too many kids, and while theres lots of shining examples that contradict this and certainly this goes on in other races not only latinos, this is a major problem for us?" instead of crying racism and getting all aggy about it?
...Cause you really cant argue this with a straight face my friend.
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What's your problem dude? Why you always want to post the negative? I mean, sure we know the world is fucked up.. is it just that you want to point the finger at someone who is even more fucked up than you are?
I heard enough bad shit today. I mean, I don't want you to be fake and act like everything is perfect in the world. But don't use other people, you should use yourself. Why don't you tell us how fucked up you are instead of pointing the finger?
you're just jealous someone else is more of a deadbeat dad than you are
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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What's not natural or not smart is having kids YOU CAN'T AFFORD! Natural for mexicans & ghetto blacks.
WTF. I should smack the shit out your mouth for that.
4 what, speaking the truth! I'm black myself. Hell, there are hispanics who even say that hispanics be having too many kids. Charles Barkley even says that's 1 of the country's problems-people having kids they can't afford.
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What's not natural or not smart is having kids YOU CAN'T AFFORD! Natural for mexicans & ghetto blacks.
WTF. I should smack the shit out your mouth for that.
4 what, speaking the truth! I'm black myself. Hell, there are hispanics who even say that hispanics be having too many kids. Charles Barkley even says that's 1 of the country's problems-people having kids they can't afford.
Y'all are not seeing the BIG picture. No mater if you can "afford" it or not... You are alive to continue life... That is it...
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What's not natural or not smart is having kids YOU CAN'T AFFORD! Natural for mexicans & ghetto blacks.
WTF. I should smack the shit out your mouth for that.
4 what, speaking the truth! I'm black myself. Hell, there are hispanics who even say that hispanics be having too many kids. Charles Barkley even says that's 1 of the country's problems-people having kids they can't afford.
Y'all are not seeing the BIG picture. No mater if you can "afford" it or not... You are alive to continue life... That is it...
So if you have a bunch of kids and just abandon them in the streets from the time their infants you're all good because you're continuing life. Got it.
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What's not natural or not smart is having kids YOU CAN'T AFFORD! Natural for mexicans & ghetto blacks.
WTF. I should smack the shit out your mouth for that.
4 what, speaking the truth! I'm black myself. Hell, there are hispanics who even say that hispanics be having too many kids. Charles Barkley even says that's 1 of the country's problems-people having kids they can't afford.
Y'all are not seeing the BIG picture. No mater if you can "afford" it or not... You are alive to continue life... That is it...
Lemme drop some real "big picture" knowledge on you.
Throughout our history as humans, and especially in the beginning, we HAD to reproduce to survive as a species. I get that. Or else myself and you and everybody else wouldnt be here. But, as weve evolved, and fought off starvation, disease, predators, and evolved into the master species on the planet that aint going anywhere anytime soon, that thinking is exactly this - archaic. Which is why in third world countries, like Mexico, you have people carrying on this tradition of having a large family - survival and tradition. In the US, you dont need 7 kids to tend the farm out front and feed the family. 2, 3, or 4 people can do this because we have a higher standard of living - and before you even say anything MDogg, yes, even the poor as fuck Mexicans in Barrioville, Whereverthefuck, USA have a good stardard of living relative to the rest of the world. So that whole "ah its just nature" argument is straight garbage and is getting the US and especially California in the clusterfuck that its in today.
Do us taxpayers a favor and learn the above paragraph and teach it to whoever you know, respectfully I ask of course.
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Look mdogg, latino population is exploding (citation - the yahoo article posted above by 187) and so is latino poverty (citation - the article above by 187). Why not just say "alotta folks in my race have a problem with having too many kids, and while theres lots of shining examples that contradict this and certainly this goes on in other races not only latinos, this is a major problem for us?" instead of crying racism and getting all aggy about it?
...Cause you really cant argue this with a straight face my friend.
As I have stated, it's been a problem but its a problem that is going away. On top of that, whites still lead the nation in overall poverty, but in the United States the culture is shifting. That's not to say in Eastern European cultures this is not a problem. As I've said, you can look at everything out there it all it shows is that humans are not fully adjusted to the modern world after 2, now 3 generations. Now in our 3rd generation in, whites in America have adjusted to these new modern expectations, and so have Blacks.
http://www.epi.org/blog/black-birth-rate-converges-white-rate/
As this article shows, Blacks had a higher birthrate in 1990 than Latinos, which was alarming because most Latinos are recent immigrants with old country birthrate mentality, well as Blacks were in their "second generation of modernization." Now in 2010, Blacks birth rates are quickly declining and blacks are having children closer to rates as whites as black birthrates droped 21%. Latino birthrates dropped 17%.
What's not natural or not smart is having kids YOU CAN'T AFFORD! Natural for mexicans & ghetto blacks.
WTF. I should smack the shit out your mouth for that.
4 what, speaking the truth! I'm black myself. Hell, there are hispanics who even say that hispanics be having too many kids. Charles Barkley even says that's 1 of the country's problems-people having kids they can't afford.
For speaking out your ass with assumptions that might have been true 20 years ago but has been trending the right way. And Barkley, Cosby, Obama and all them are still talking about issues from 20 years ago. On top of that, you made it more of a racial issue when everything says it's not a racial issue, as Latinos who have lots of kids are recent immigrants, and blacks are having kids at almost the same rates as whites. So your ass was making assumptions to make minorities look bad while listening to "leaders," and I use that quote loosely, for talking points when they are still stuck in 1990. Then again, this whole board is dedicated to being stuck in 1990 so I shouldn't be surprise.
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Look mdogg, latino population is exploding (citation - the yahoo article posted above by 187) and so is latino poverty (citation - the article above by 187). Why not just say "alotta folks in my race have a problem with having too many kids, and while theres lots of shining examples that contradict this and certainly this goes on in other races not only latinos, this is a major problem for us?" instead of crying racism and getting all aggy about it?
...Cause you really cant argue this with a straight face my friend.
As I have stated, it's been a problem but its a problem that is going away. On top of that, whites still lead the nation in overall poverty, but in the United States the culture is shifting. That's not to say in Eastern European cultures this is not a problem. As I've said, you can look at everything out there it all it shows is that humans are not fully adjusted to the modern world after 2, now 3 generations. Now in our 3rd generation in, whites in America have adjusted to these new modern expectations, and so have Blacks.
http://www.epi.org/blog/black-birth-rate-converges-white-rate/
As this article shows, Blacks had a higher birthrate in 1990 than Latinos, which was alarming because most Latinos are recent immigrants with old country birthrate mentality, well as Blacks were in their "second generation of modernization." Now in 2010, Blacks birth rates are quickly declining and blacks are having children closer to rates as whites as black birthrates droped 21%. Latino birthrates dropped 17%.
so you agree with me but contend that the problem isnt as bad as its been? at least you didnt call me a racist. we must be making racial progress in this country.
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Look mdogg, latino population is exploding (citation - the yahoo article posted above by 187) and so is latino poverty (citation - the article above by 187). Why not just say "alotta folks in my race have a problem with having too many kids, and while theres lots of shining examples that contradict this and certainly this goes on in other races not only latinos, this is a major problem for us?" instead of crying racism and getting all aggy about it?
...Cause you really cant argue this with a straight face my friend.
As I have stated, it's been a problem but its a problem that is going away. On top of that, whites still lead the nation in overall poverty, but in the United States the culture is shifting. That's not to say in Eastern European cultures this is not a problem. As I've said, you can look at everything out there it all it shows is that humans are not fully adjusted to the modern world after 2, now 3 generations. Now in our 3rd generation in, whites in America have adjusted to these new modern expectations, and so have Blacks.
http://www.epi.org/blog/black-birth-rate-converges-white-rate/
As this article shows, Blacks had a higher birthrate in 1990 than Latinos, which was alarming because most Latinos are recent immigrants with old country birthrate mentality, well as Blacks were in their "second generation of modernization." Now in 2010, Blacks birth rates are quickly declining and blacks are having children closer to rates as whites as black birthrates droped 21%. Latino birthrates dropped 17%.
so you agree with me but contend that the problem isnt as bad as its been? at least you didnt call me a racist. we must be making racial progress in this country.
The problem is recent immigration in the Latino community. But in reality, up until 3-4 generations ago (pre-birth control pill) this was NOT a problem. But people adjust. And yes, the problem is NOT as bad, still a problem, but it's really a racial problem and more of a human biology adjusting to modern world problem.
And why call you a racist, I use that term very sparely, and earlier I said that saying certain things can LEAD to racism, but I'd say no one here is a racist. Being a real racist is actually very hard to achieve, as most people are either prejudice or a bigot, but not racist. Hard to explain, but I wouldn't say anyone here is even those things, just internet trolls.
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lol so mexicans dont have a buncha kids? must be my imagination
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lol so mexicans dont have a buncha kids? must be my imagination
Recent immigrant Mexicans, yes, second, third generation Mexicans, not really. It takes a generation or two to get people "Americanized."
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Recent immigrant Mexicans, yes, second, third generation Mexicans, not really. It takes a generation or two to get people "Americanized."
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Look mdogg, latino population is exploding (citation - the yahoo article posted above by 187) and so is latino poverty (citation - the article above by 187). Why not just say "alotta folks in my race have a problem with having too many kids, and while theres lots of shining examples that contradict this and certainly this goes on in other races not only latinos, this is a major problem for us?" instead of crying racism and getting all aggy about it?
...Cause you really cant argue this with a straight face my friend.
As I have stated, it's been a problem but its a problem that is going away. On top of that, whites still lead the nation in overall poverty, but in the United States the culture is shifting. That's not to say in Eastern European cultures this is not a problem. As I've said, you can look at everything out there it all it shows is that humans are not fully adjusted to the modern world after 2, now 3 generations. Now in our 3rd generation in, whites in America have adjusted to these new modern expectations, and so have Blacks.
http://www.epi.org/blog/black-birth-rate-converges-white-rate/
As this article shows, Blacks had a higher birthrate in 1990 than Latinos, which was alarming because most Latinos are recent immigrants with old country birthrate mentality, well as Blacks were in their "second generation of modernization." Now in 2010, Blacks birth rates are quickly declining and blacks are having children closer to rates as whites as black birthrates droped 21%. Latino birthrates dropped 17%.
so you agree with me but contend that the problem isnt as bad as its been? at least you didnt call me a racist. we must be making racial progress in this country.
The problem is recent immigration in the Latino community. But in reality, up until 3-4 generations ago (pre-birth control pill) this was NOT a problem. But people adjust. And yes, the problem is NOT as bad, still a problem, but it's really a racial problem and more of a human biology adjusting to modern world problem.
And why call you a racist, I use that term very sparely, and earlier I said that saying certain things can LEAD to racism, but I'd say no one here is a racist. Being a real racist is actually very hard to achieve, as most people are either prejudice or a bigot, but not racist. Hard to explain, but I wouldn't say anyone here is even those things, just internet trolls.
as satan as my witness i aint trolling at all on this one. this is an issue ive had debates about with people in real life. and ive had people call me a racist for it and ive usually just politely told them that playing race politics wont get you anywhere in life, and im glad you kinda backed off the racist thing as you seem educated and when supposedly educated people pull that card it makes whatever theyre saying pretty much moot because most of the time they know that theyre being faulty they just dont wanna lose the argument.
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Look mdogg, latino population is exploding (citation - the yahoo article posted above by 187) and so is latino poverty (citation - the article above by 187). Why not just say "alotta folks in my race have a problem with having too many kids, and while theres lots of shining examples that contradict this and certainly this goes on in other races not only latinos, this is a major problem for us?" instead of crying racism and getting all aggy about it?
...Cause you really cant argue this with a straight face my friend.
As I have stated, it's been a problem but its a problem that is going away. On top of that, whites still lead the nation in overall poverty, but in the United States the culture is shifting. That's not to say in Eastern European cultures this is not a problem. As I've said, you can look at everything out there it all it shows is that humans are not fully adjusted to the modern world after 2, now 3 generations. Now in our 3rd generation in, whites in America have adjusted to these new modern expectations, and so have Blacks.
http://www.epi.org/blog/black-birth-rate-converges-white-rate/
As this article shows, Blacks had a higher birthrate in 1990 than Latinos, which was alarming because most Latinos are recent immigrants with old country birthrate mentality, well as Blacks were in their "second generation of modernization." Now in 2010, Blacks birth rates are quickly declining and blacks are having children closer to rates as whites as black birthrates droped 21%. Latino birthrates dropped 17%.
so you agree with me but contend that the problem isnt as bad as its been? at least you didnt call me a racist. we must be making racial progress in this country.
The problem is recent immigration in the Latino community. But in reality, up until 3-4 generations ago (pre-birth control pill) this was NOT a problem. But people adjust. And yes, the problem is NOT as bad, still a problem, but it's really a racial problem and more of a human biology adjusting to modern world problem.
And why call you a racist, I use that term very sparely, and earlier I said that saying certain things can LEAD to racism, but I'd say no one here is a racist. Being a real racist is actually very hard to achieve, as most people are either prejudice or a bigot, but not racist. Hard to explain, but I wouldn't say anyone here is even those things, just internet trolls.
as satan as my witness i aint trolling at all on this one. this is an issue ive had debates about with people in real life. and ive had people call me a racist for it and ive usually just politely told them that playing race politics wont get you anywhere in life, and im glad you kinda backed off the racist thing as you seem educated and when supposedly educated people pull that card it makes whatever theyre saying pretty much moot because most of the time they know that theyre being faulty they just dont wanna lose the argument.
The main reason people would say that is that you are debating about issues 20 years ago and making it seem like it's happening today. As I've stated, recent immigrants, yeah it's in issue in the United States. Around the world, no matter the race, Middle East, especially Asia, African, Eastern Europe, Latin America, too many kids is a problem. But in the Unites States, populations that have been in the US longer are less likely to have more kids, even the black community. So by arguing this, it sounds like you are going off assumptions, and people mistake assumptions for racism. You are using prejudgments, or prejudice. But the reality is that blacks birth rates are dropping fast and have been for the last 20 years. Latinos who are from the US birth rates are dropping fast, and it's recent immigrants who have high birth rates.
Also the invention of the pill was in 1960, that was the start of white birth rates dropping. Before that, we had this thing called the Baby Boom between 1945-1960 when white people were having kids at rates from the farmer years, yet living in suburbia. So if this tread was happening now, you'd add whites to the list. But after the Pill, birth rates dropped greatly, and it wasn't until the 90's when women fought to get the Pill added to most health care plans that other lower income communities started using the Pill too. Now you have lower birth rates of blacks and latinos, and this guy having 22 kids is now an exception. The people in Maury and Springer are now a side show and not the rule. Of fathers who don't live with their kids, as I posted earlier, it's black fathers who are the most involved with their kids, high rates than Latinos and whites. So the black father has stepped up over the late 20 years.
But the damage was done. For 20 years of so-called dead beat dads, we now have a stereotype and the majority of Americans hold on to that stereotype. I guess why it's really important to me is because I'm obviously Latino who has a lot of Latino friends are a dads, and their baby's mom called them "co-parent", not baby daddy because even though they never married the girl, they have a partnership to raise the child. I also have black friends like that too. I can honestly say I don't know know one guy that has PURPOSELY walked out on a kid, just to have more kids. I knew guys who had a kid at a young age and they are helping raise that child and they eventually got re-married and have another kid or two. But they make it a point to stay in their kids life because of how wronged they were by their dads 20-30 years ago. That's why this is such a big deal to me, because I know too many black and Latino fathers trying to break the cycle, and then I look at the numbers and we are breaking the cycle, but that old stereotype wouldn't die. And as long as there are a couple of idiots who still do it, people point to them and say, "See, they are all like that." When I can point to white fathers and say the same thing.
Finally, in order to be a racist, you'd have to feel that whites are superior over blacks because of this assumption you have, and then prove it by doing something hateful. That's very hard to actually achieve. I save the racism card for police, judges, bad teachers and people who commit hate crimes. The reason is because racism is a very strong term, and being prejudice online is not the same as being a racist.
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Look mdogg, latino population is exploding (citation - the yahoo article posted above by 187) and so is latino poverty (citation - the article above by 187). Why not just say "alotta folks in my race have a problem with having too many kids, and while theres lots of shining examples that contradict this and certainly this goes on in other races not only latinos, this is a major problem for us?" instead of crying racism and getting all aggy about it?
...Cause you really cant argue this with a straight face my friend.
As I have stated, it's been a problem but its a problem that is going away. On top of that, whites still lead the nation in overall poverty, but in the United States the culture is shifting. That's not to say in Eastern European cultures this is not a problem. As I've said, you can look at everything out there it all it shows is that humans are not fully adjusted to the modern world after 2, now 3 generations. Now in our 3rd generation in, whites in America have adjusted to these new modern expectations, and so have Blacks.
http://www.epi.org/blog/black-birth-rate-converges-white-rate/
As this article shows, Blacks had a higher birthrate in 1990 than Latinos, which was alarming because most Latinos are recent immigrants with old country birthrate mentality, well as Blacks were in their "second generation of modernization." Now in 2010, Blacks birth rates are quickly declining and blacks are having children closer to rates as whites as black birthrates droped 21%. Latino birthrates dropped 17%.
so you agree with me but contend that the problem isnt as bad as its been? at least you didnt call me a racist. we must be making racial progress in this country.
The problem is recent immigration in the Latino community. But in reality, up until 3-4 generations ago (pre-birth control pill) this was NOT a problem. But people adjust. And yes, the problem is NOT as bad, still a problem, but it's really a racial problem and more of a human biology adjusting to modern world problem.
And why call you a racist, I use that term very sparely, and earlier I said that saying certain things can LEAD to racism, but I'd say no one here is a racist. Being a real racist is actually very hard to achieve, as most people are either prejudice or a bigot, but not racist. Hard to explain, but I wouldn't say anyone here is even those things, just internet trolls.
as satan as my witness i aint trolling at all on this one. this is an issue ive had debates about with people in real life. and ive had people call me a racist for it and ive usually just politely told them that playing race politics wont get you anywhere in life, and im glad you kinda backed off the racist thing as you seem educated and when supposedly educated people pull that card it makes whatever theyre saying pretty much moot because most of the time they know that theyre being faulty they just dont wanna lose the argument.
The main reason people would say that is that you are debating about issues 20 years ago and making it seem like it's happening today. As I've stated, recent immigrants, yeah it's in issue in the United States. Around the world, no matter the race, Middle East, especially Asia, African, Eastern Europe, Latin America, too many kids is a problem. But in the Unites States, populations that have been in the US longer are less likely to have more kids, even the black community. So by arguing this, it sounds like you are going off assumptions, and people mistake assumptions for racism. You are using prejudgments, or prejudice. But the reality is that blacks birth rates are dropping fast and have been for the last 20 years. Latinos who are from the US birth rates are dropping fast, and it's recent immigrants who have high birth rates.
Also the invention of the pill was in 1960, that was the start of white birth rates dropping. Before that, we had this thing called the Baby Boom between 1945-1960 when white people were having kids at rates from the farmer years, yet living in suburbia. So if this tread was happening now, you'd add whites to the list. But after the Pill, birth rates dropped greatly, and it wasn't until the 90's when women fought to get the Pill added to most health care plans that other lower income communities started using the Pill too. Now you have lower birth rates of blacks and latinos, and this guy having 22 kids is now an exception. The people in Maury and Springer are now a side show and not the rule. Of fathers who don't live with their kids, as I posted earlier, it's black fathers who are the most involved with their kids, high rates than Latinos and whites. So the black father has stepped up over the late 20 years.
But the damage was done. For 20 years of so-called dead beat dads, we now have a stereotype and the majority of Americans hold on to that stereotype. I guess why it's really important to me is because I'm obviously Latino who has a lot of Latino friends are a dads, and their baby's mom called them "co-parent", not baby daddy because even though they never married the girl, they have a partnership to raise the child. I also have black friends like that too. I can honestly say I don't know know one guy that has PURPOSELY walked out on a kid, just to have more kids. I knew guys who had a kid at a young age and they are helping raise that child and they eventually got re-married and have another kid or two. But they make it a point to stay in their kids life because of how wronged they were by their dads 20-30 years ago. That's why this is such a big deal to me, because I know too many black and Latino fathers trying to break the cycle, and then I look at the numbers and we are breaking the cycle, but that old stereotype wouldn't die. And as long as there are a couple of idiots who still do it, people point to them and say, "See, they are all like that." When I can point to white fathers and say the same thing.
Finally, in order to be a racist, you'd have to feel that whites are superior over blacks because of this assumption you have, and then prove it by doing something hateful. That's very hard to actually achieve. I save the racism card for police, judges, bad teachers and people who commit hate crimes. The reason is because racism is a very strong term, and being prejudice online is not the same as being a racist.
you cant have your cake and eat it too. you admit what im saying is true, then say "oh its only a problem for recent immigrants" and "thats 20 yrs ago". just a way for you to deflect the truth, misinformation-dogg. smh. what year is that yahoo article about fresno from? 1993 or what?
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What's not natural or not smart is having kids YOU CAN'T AFFORD! Natural for mexicans & ghetto blacks.
WTF. I should smack the shit out your mouth for that.
Mdogg - this is reality, and you know it. If it hurts, i understand. But dont act like it aint true. Read that article linked above my post, youre educated right? This should be easy to understand.
Brian - You dont even know your own religion. “May Allah’s mercy be upon that person who offers a gift to me by pointing out my own mistakes and shortcomings.” - Jafar al Sadiq. You should grow some humbleness, my son.
brian, you still havent responded to this.
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Look mdogg, latino population is exploding (citation - the yahoo article posted above by 187) and so is latino poverty (citation - the article above by 187). Why not just say "alotta folks in my race have a problem with having too many kids, and while theres lots of shining examples that contradict this and certainly this goes on in other races not only latinos, this is a major problem for us?" instead of crying racism and getting all aggy about it?
...Cause you really cant argue this with a straight face my friend.
As I have stated, it's been a problem but its a problem that is going away. On top of that, whites still lead the nation in overall poverty, but in the United States the culture is shifting. That's not to say in Eastern European cultures this is not a problem. As I've said, you can look at everything out there it all it shows is that humans are not fully adjusted to the modern world after 2, now 3 generations. Now in our 3rd generation in, whites in America have adjusted to these new modern expectations, and so have Blacks.
http://www.epi.org/blog/black-birth-rate-converges-white-rate/
As this article shows, Blacks had a higher birthrate in 1990 than Latinos, which was alarming because most Latinos are recent immigrants with old country birthrate mentality, well as Blacks were in their "second generation of modernization." Now in 2010, Blacks birth rates are quickly declining and blacks are having children closer to rates as whites as black birthrates droped 21%. Latino birthrates dropped 17%.
so you agree with me but contend that the problem isnt as bad as its been? at least you didnt call me a racist. we must be making racial progress in this country.
The problem is recent immigration in the Latino community. But in reality, up until 3-4 generations ago (pre-birth control pill) this was NOT a problem. But people adjust. And yes, the problem is NOT as bad, still a problem, but it's really a racial problem and more of a human biology adjusting to modern world problem.
And why call you a racist, I use that term very sparely, and earlier I said that saying certain things can LEAD to racism, but I'd say no one here is a racist. Being a real racist is actually very hard to achieve, as most people are either prejudice or a bigot, but not racist. Hard to explain, but I wouldn't say anyone here is even those things, just internet trolls.
as satan as my witness i aint trolling at all on this one. this is an issue ive had debates about with people in real life. and ive had people call me a racist for it and ive usually just politely told them that playing race politics wont get you anywhere in life, and im glad you kinda backed off the racist thing as you seem educated and when supposedly educated people pull that card it makes whatever theyre saying pretty much moot because most of the time they know that theyre being faulty they just dont wanna lose the argument.
The main reason people would say that is that you are debating about issues 20 years ago and making it seem like it's happening today. As I've stated, recent immigrants, yeah it's in issue in the United States. Around the world, no matter the race, Middle East, especially Asia, African, Eastern Europe, Latin America, too many kids is a problem. But in the Unites States, populations that have been in the US longer are less likely to have more kids, even the black community. So by arguing this, it sounds like you are going off assumptions, and people mistake assumptions for racism. You are using prejudgments, or prejudice. But the reality is that blacks birth rates are dropping fast and have been for the last 20 years. Latinos who are from the US birth rates are dropping fast, and it's recent immigrants who have high birth rates.
Also the invention of the pill was in 1960, that was the start of white birth rates dropping. Before that, we had this thing called the Baby Boom between 1945-1960 when white people were having kids at rates from the farmer years, yet living in suburbia. So if this tread was happening now, you'd add whites to the list. But after the Pill, birth rates dropped greatly, and it wasn't until the 90's when women fought to get the Pill added to most health care plans that other lower income communities started using the Pill too. Now you have lower birth rates of blacks and latinos, and this guy having 22 kids is now an exception. The people in Maury and Springer are now a side show and not the rule. Of fathers who don't live with their kids, as I posted earlier, it's black fathers who are the most involved with their kids, high rates than Latinos and whites. So the black father has stepped up over the late 20 years.
But the damage was done. For 20 years of so-called dead beat dads, we now have a stereotype and the majority of Americans hold on to that stereotype. I guess why it's really important to me is because I'm obviously Latino who has a lot of Latino friends are a dads, and their baby's mom called them "co-parent", not baby daddy because even though they never married the girl, they have a partnership to raise the child. I also have black friends like that too. I can honestly say I don't know know one guy that has PURPOSELY walked out on a kid, just to have more kids. I knew guys who had a kid at a young age and they are helping raise that child and they eventually got re-married and have another kid or two. But they make it a point to stay in their kids life because of how wronged they were by their dads 20-30 years ago. That's why this is such a big deal to me, because I know too many black and Latino fathers trying to break the cycle, and then I look at the numbers and we are breaking the cycle, but that old stereotype wouldn't die. And as long as there are a couple of idiots who still do it, people point to them and say, "See, they are all like that." When I can point to white fathers and say the same thing.
Finally, in order to be a racist, you'd have to feel that whites are superior over blacks because of this assumption you have, and then prove it by doing something hateful. That's very hard to actually achieve. I save the racism card for police, judges, bad teachers and people who commit hate crimes. The reason is because racism is a very strong term, and being prejudice online is not the same as being a racist.
you cant have your cake and eat it too. you admit what im saying is true, then say "oh its only a problem for recent immigrants" and "thats 20 yrs ago". just a way for you to deflect the truth, misinformation-dogg. smh. what year is that yahoo article about fresno from? 1993 or what?
Huh?
What I'm saying, in plan English. If your family has been in the country for a couple of generations, no matter what color you are, you adjust. So well the dead beat dad stereotype had some truth in 1990 in the African American and Latino community, right now birth rates in both communities have decreased greatly, in the African American cases to almost White American levels. But birthrates are high among recent immigrants in the Latino community.
Also, the whole baby mama thing, most people I know, Latinos and Blacks both try to use co-parents, as dads recently are trying real hard to break these stereotypes. Also, studies have shown that among fathers who DON'T live with their children, Black fathers are the ones who are more likely to stay in their children's lives. So they may not live with the mom, but they take care of and provide for their kids still, while staying in their lives. The stereotype is now just a stereotype.
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Look mdogg, latino population is exploding (citation - the yahoo article posted above by 187) and so is latino poverty (citation - the article above by 187). Why not just say "alotta folks in my race have a problem with having too many kids, and while theres lots of shining examples that contradict this and certainly this goes on in other races not only latinos, this is a major problem for us?" instead of crying racism and getting all aggy about it?
...Cause you really cant argue this with a straight face my friend.
Mdogg just give it up already
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Look mdogg, latino population is exploding (citation - the yahoo article posted above by 187) and so is latino poverty (citation - the article above by 187). Why not just say "alotta folks in my race have a problem with having too many kids, and while theres lots of shining examples that contradict this and certainly this goes on in other races not only latinos, this is a major problem for us?" instead of crying racism and getting all aggy about it?
...Cause you really cant argue this with a straight face my friend.
Mdogg just give it up already
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And most of that poverty is recent immigrants.
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Look mdogg, latino population is exploding (citation - the yahoo article posted above by 187) and so is latino poverty (citation - the article above by 187). Why not just say "alotta folks in my race have a problem with having too many kids, and while theres lots of shining examples that contradict this and certainly this goes on in other races not only latinos, this is a major problem for us?" instead of crying racism and getting all aggy about it?
...Cause you really cant argue this with a straight face my friend.
Mdogg just give it up already
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And most of that poverty is recent immigrants.
and thats the thing about disinfo types like yourself, you try to cloud the truth to wiggle your way out of it. the "recent immigrants" (which youre using that statement extremely loosely because im guessing youre counting people whove been in this country for decades) we have here are largely Mexicans. which means that mexicans coming to the us have a problem with having too many kids they cant pay for. you can try and "say oh well its only because their new". why do we care "why"? they need to change their culture immediately not in 3 generations or they will further contribute to the decline of our society, no question no excuses.
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Look mdogg, latino population is exploding (citation - the yahoo article posted above by 187) and so is latino poverty (citation - the article above by 187). Why not just say "alotta folks in my race have a problem with having too many kids, and while theres lots of shining examples that contradict this and certainly this goes on in other races not only latinos, this is a major problem for us?" instead of crying racism and getting all aggy about it?
...Cause you really cant argue this with a straight face my friend.
Mdogg just give it up already
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And most of that poverty is recent immigrants.
and thats the thing about disinfo types like yourself, you try to cloud the truth to wiggle your way out of it. the "recent immigrants" (which youre using that statement extremely loosely because im guessing youre counting people whove been in this country for decades) we have here are largely Mexicans. which means that mexicans coming to the us have a problem with having too many kids they cant pay for. you can try and "say oh well its only because their new". why do we care "why"? they need to change their culture immediately not in 3 generations or they will further contribute to the decline of our society, no question no excuses.
Hard to change culture. It's like me tell you to have MORE kids you can't afford if you move to another country, because your kids have a chance of not seeing 10 years old, and once you retire you they are going to take care of you because we don't have social security.
And I mean recent immigrants as in first generation, as in the people who come. Their kids, I'm NOT talking about them. I'm talking about now.
So we have a conversation on Black people and Latinos, I disprove the Black part, but you are still going after Latinos. Why? Because we have a "kid problem." What's it to you anyways? Other than Latinos are on pace to be the majority! Don't give me the "I have to pay for those kids," because that's been disproven over and over and over again. Dude, if is that it is.
The best way to get recent immigrants to have less kids, teach them about birth control and condoms, and why they are important.
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Look mdogg, latino population is exploding (citation - the yahoo article posted above by 187) and so is latino poverty (citation - the article above by 187). Why not just say "alotta folks in my race have a problem with having too many kids, and while theres lots of shining examples that contradict this and certainly this goes on in other races not only latinos, this is a major problem for us?" instead of crying racism and getting all aggy about it?
...Cause you really cant argue this with a straight face my friend.
Mdogg just give it up already
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And most of that poverty is recent immigrants.
and thats the thing about disinfo types like yourself, you try to cloud the truth to wiggle your way out of it. the "recent immigrants" (which youre using that statement extremely loosely because im guessing youre counting people whove been in this country for decades) we have here are largely Mexicans. which means that mexicans coming to the us have a problem with having too many kids they cant pay for. you can try and "say oh well its only because their new". why do we care "why"? they need to change their culture immediately not in 3 generations or they will further contribute to the decline of our society, no question no excuses.
Hard to change culture. It's like me tell you to have MORE kids you can't afford if you move to another country, because your kids have a chance of not seeing 10 years old, and once you retire you they are going to take care of you because we don't have social security.
And I mean recent immigrants as in first generation, as in the people who come. Their kids, I'm NOT talking about them. I'm talking about now.
So we have a conversation on Black people and Latinos, I disprove the Black part, but you are still going after Latinos. Why? Because we have a "kid problem." What's it to you anyways? Other than Latinos are on pace to be the majority! Don't give me the "I have to pay for those kids," because that's been disproven over and over and over again. Dude, if is that it is.
The best way to get recent immigrants to have less kids, teach them about birth control and condoms, and why they are important.
Whats it to me? What it is to me, is that I live in California and so does my family. The more and more that people come here from Mexico and act like they are still in Mexico, it turns California into Mexico. I dont want that and neither do you.
And "its been proven over and over" that overpopulation, especially of Mexicans, here in the US doesnt cost me money? God damn dude really? More misinformation. How do these people pay for food? How do these people pay for medical care? Who pays for the special programs and training for teachers needed to teach "english language learners"? Yeah, they dont cost me a DIME, Mdogg. LOL.