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Title: Micheal Moore Going To Jail?
Post by: Suga Foot on July 15, 2004, 10:34:36 AM
www.chargemoore.com

National Post
Moore broke election law, student says
chargemoore.com: Filmmaker urged Canadians not to vote for Harper

July 10, 2004

An Ontario-based conservative group is petitioning Parliament to charge Michael Moore with attempting to influence last month's federal election, after the left-wing U.S. filmmaker urged Canadians not to vote for Stephen Harper.
At a Toronto screening of his film Fahrenheit 9/11, an indictment of the administration of U.S. President George W. Bush, Mr. Moore said Mr. Harper "has a big pair of scissors in his hands and wants to snip away at the social safety net that distinguishes [Canada] from [the United States]."

He suggested a Conservative victory in the June 28 election would "be such a blow to those of us trying to get rid of Bush."

As far as Kasra Nejatian, a 21-year-old Queen's University student, is concerned, Mr. Moore broke the law. Specifically, the Canada Elections Act, which states "[no] person who does not reside in Canada shall, during an election period, in any way induce electors to vote or refrain from voting or vote or refrain from voting for a particular candidate" unless the person is a Canadian citizen or a permanent resident.

Mr. Nejatian has set up a Web site, chargemoore.com and is asking Canadians to sign his petition -- which he wants to present to Elections Canada, along with a formal complaint. Should Elections Canada pursue the complaint against Mr. Moore, it would be the first time a non-Canadian would be charged under the Elections Act.

"I was tired of this guy going around and telling Canadians about a topic which he knows nothing about," Mr. Nejatian said yesterday. "This guy's propaganda is bad enough in the U.S., but at least there he's not breaking the law. He broke the law here."

Individuals cannot pursue alleged infractions of the Act; only Elections Canada can. However, Mr. Nejatian said he will challenge Elections Canada in court should it not take up his complaint. Mr. Nejatian further noted he was interested only in Canadian signatures -- if only to avoid having Mr. Moore start a "Republican conspiracy" in Canada.

Mr. Nejatian's lawyer, Calgary-based Jonathan Denis, would not comment on the case's merits, but said the law's "clear intent is to prevent foreign interference in federal elections in Canada." This particular section became law in 2000, when Parliament last modified the Elections Act.

The law says anyone who "wilfully contravenes" the Act regulating foreign influence is guilty of an offence -- an important distinction, Mr. Denis said.

"The person's intent is key here. To me, Mr. Moore's comments directly intend to influence voters."

Should Mr. Moore be found guilty of violating the Act, he could face a $2,000 fine and/or six months in jail, although Mr. Denis doubts Mr. Moore would do any jail time.

Reached for comment yesterday, Chief Elections Officer Jean-Pierre Kingsley would not comment on the specific merits of the such a complaint.

"Anyone who wants to bring forth a complaint does so in writing to the commissioner of Canada Elections," Mr. Kingley said through a spokesperson.

Mr. Nejatian, president of Ontario's Campus Conservatives, has been politically active for several years. He ran against and lost to former Liberal Cabinet minister David Collenette in the 2000 election.

"This is the first time I've tried to sue a foreign national, but I think he deserves it," Mr. Nejatian said.

Mr. Moore could not be reached for comment.

? National Post 2004





I'm very interested to see the outcome of this one.
Title: Re: Micheal Moore Going To Jail?
Post by: Eddie G. on July 15, 2004, 10:59:28 AM
Its gonna be a shitstorm if he goes to jail.
Title: Re: Micheal Moore Going To Jail?
Post by: Don Seer on July 15, 2004, 11:00:01 AM
bullshit!

is he canadian? no

your laws dont cover him!


stupid people..
Title: Re: Micheal Moore Going To Jail?
Post by: M Dogg™ on July 15, 2004, 11:01:34 AM
huh... I guess Canada doesn't have the freedom of speech the United States does.
Title: Re: Micheal Moore Going To Jail?
Post by: Don Seer on July 15, 2004, 11:05:34 AM
haha... thats not even the point.


its like you saying fuck the queen of england

and us arresting you for treason.... rofl
Title: Re: Micheal Moore Going To Jail?
Post by: M Dogg™ on July 15, 2004, 11:31:36 AM
weird... just weird. imagine him getting arrested. shit... all hell will break loose... just like South Park... only mothers in Canada will be singing... blame America... blame America... weird.
Title: Re: Micheal Moore Going To Jail?
Post by: Doggystylin on July 15, 2004, 11:38:48 AM
haha... thats not even the point.


its like you saying fuck the queen of england

and us arresting you for treason.... rofl

LMAO
Title: Re: Micheal Moore Going To Jail?
Post by: 7even on July 15, 2004, 12:02:20 PM
everybody and their mother says fuck bush and dont vote bush.. why not fuck harper?
Title: Re: Micheal Moore Going To Jail?
Post by: Suga Foot on July 15, 2004, 12:04:12 PM
everybody and their mother says fuck bush and dont vote bush.. why not fuck harper?

Because Harper's never been in power.  So nobody can really say what he would or wouldn't do.
Title: Re: Micheal Moore Going To Jail?
Post by: Sikotic™ on July 15, 2004, 01:25:11 PM
Some stupid shit.
Title: Re: Micheal Moore Going To Jail?
Post by: Ras Kass' Toothpick on July 15, 2004, 03:16:11 PM
He was in Canada when he made those remarks.  'Seer, I can't just go to Britain and break the laws there and be immune from prosecution because I'm Canadian.  He should have obeyed our laws and ignorance is no excuse for breaking the law the last time I checked.
Title: Re: Micheal Moore Going To Jail?
Post by: 7even on July 15, 2004, 03:22:06 PM
lol I still cant believe it's forbidden to talk smack about a politician.

Fuck a Harper. Do not vote Harper. Sue me. Arrest me.

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Should Mr. Moore be found guilty of violating the Act, he could face a $2,000 fine and/or six months in jail, although Mr. Denis doubts Mr. Moore would do any jail time.

it aint serious btw ^^^
Title: Re: Micheal Moore Going To Jail?
Post by: white Boy on July 15, 2004, 03:22:29 PM
yea, i cant go to canada, rob a bank, and say, u cant arrest me Im american.....
Title: Re: Micheal Moore Going To Jail?
Post by: ...'BfCfC'... on July 15, 2004, 03:24:29 PM
Some stupid shit.
Title: Re: Micheal Moore Going To Jail?
Post by: eS El Duque on July 15, 2004, 04:25:24 PM
well, i dont like moore anywayz  ;D..fuckin bastard should worry about his own country instead of ours!
Title: Re: Micheal Moore Going To Jail?
Post by: Strong Arm on July 15, 2004, 04:34:07 PM
It's also illegal to invade sovereign countries.
Title: Re: Micheal Moore Going To Jail?
Post by: Lincoln on July 15, 2004, 08:26:00 PM
I hope he gets a fine so he starts to shut the fuck up. Trying to fuck our potential Prime Minister over.
Title: Re: Micheal Moore Going To Jail?
Post by: Suga Foot on July 15, 2004, 10:45:38 PM
I heard that a mayor of a city in Ontario is gonna make him an honorary citizen, so they can't charge him with anything.
Title: Re: Micheal Moore Going To Jail?
Post by: M Dogg™ on July 15, 2004, 11:15:13 PM
Just weird, if any foreigner comes here, and talks shit on John Kerry, fuck, I might join him. He comes and has a large deal, and tells people not to vote for Kerry, I'd have to see. It strange to me that just for talking, you can get punished. Just weird. If a Canadian talked shit on Kerry over here, that's not against the law at all. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but to me personally, it's just weird.
Title: Re: Micheal Moore Going To Jail?
Post by: Ras Kass' Toothpick on July 16, 2004, 12:06:24 PM
I heard that a mayor of a city in Ontario is gonna make him an honorary citizen, so they can't charge him with anything.

A mayor doesn't have the authority to actually do that, do they?  I wouldn't think so.