West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: lilvasquez on October 22, 2006, 10:50:37 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeIgLGUB_TY
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rad.
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Its the music industry that killed it, not Southern rappers.
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how the hell did they interpret "Hip Hop Is Dead" to be mean "The South Sucks"?
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how the hell did they interpret "Hip Hop Is Dead" to be mean "The South Sucks"?
maybe theyre feeling guilty
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lmao at them catchin feelings
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We already have a three page thread on it here (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=123824.0).
Try actually reading the forum.
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We already have a three page thread on it here (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=123824.0).
Try actually reading the forum.
not everybody is on the forum 24/7 buddy. im not going to search a forum for a specific thread before i read another one or create one.
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How does a couple random fucks represent the entire South?
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The South crunk music did ruin hip hop
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Nas has a point... hip-hop is dead... just because it's selling doesnt mean it's alive.... look at tupac.
8)
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The South crunk music did ruin hip hop
How anyone who supports Dipset could say Crunk Music destroyed Hip Hop, when that VERY music influences the Dips, is beyond me.
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We already have a three page thread on it here (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=123824.0).
Try actually reading the forum.
not everybody is on the forum 24/7 buddy. im not going to search a forum for a specific thread before i read another one or create one.
It's not hard. I hardly read it nowadays and I still knew.
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The South crunk music did ruin hip hop
How anyone who supports Dipset could say Crunk Music destroyed Hip Hop, when that VERY music influences the Dips, is beyond me.
I know, seriously...crunk is bad for hip-hop, but Dipset putting out 1,000,000,0000,000 albums that all sound like each other isn't? I'm sure Dipset really has that much more musical integrity than Lil Jon now...
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they get upset because they think that the south is runnin hip hop right now... but to me most south music aint hiphop music hehe..
but yeah the music industry, the hunger for money and fame and the dumb people who don't know anything about music and listen to 50 Cent is destroying the Hip Hop, tho i don't see that music as hiphop
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they get upset because they think that the south is runnin hip hop right now... but to me most south music aint hiphop music hehe..
but yeah the music industry, the hunger for money and fame and the dumb people who don't know anything about music and listen to 50 Cent is destroying the Hip Hop, tho i don't see that music as hiphop
Why is the South not Hip Hop? How do you "know anything about music," yet someone who listens to 50, doesn't? How are "they" destroying Hip Hop?
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Lupe will SAVE hip-hop. 8) 8) 8)
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they get upset because they think that the south is runnin hip hop right now... but to me most south music aint hiphop music hehe..
but yeah the music industry, the hunger for money and fame and the dumb people who don't know anything about music and listen to 50 Cent is destroying the Hip Hop, tho i don't see that music as hiphop
Why is the South not Hip Hop? How do you "know anything about music," yet someone who listens to 50, doesn't? How are "they" destroying Hip Hop?
Argh okay we can call it Hip Hop, but wack hip hop. The destroy Hip Hop by putting out wack mainstream music, so the fan thinks thats what hiphop is about (money, fame, what cloth you wear etc.)..
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they get upset because they think that the south is runnin hip hop right now... but to me most south music aint hiphop music hehe..
but yeah the music industry, the hunger for money and fame and the dumb people who don't know anything about music and listen to 50 Cent is destroying the Hip Hop, tho i don't see that music as hiphop
Why is the South not Hip Hop? How do you "know anything about music," yet someone who listens to 50, doesn't? How are "they" destroying Hip Hop?
Argh okay we can call it Hip Hop, but wack hip hop. The destroy Hip Hop by putting out wack mainstream music, so the fan thinks thats what hiphop is about (money, fame, what cloth you wear etc.)..
lol here we go again
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Argh okay we can call it Hip Hop, but wack hip hop. The destroy Hip Hop by putting out wack mainstream music, so the fan thinks thats what hiphop is about (money, fame, what cloth you wear etc.)..
You have spoken stupidity typical of a wigger trying to fit in with the struggling lower classes by declaring what us negroes listen to (yes, we like 50) is not "real hip-hop".
Prepare to take a terrible beating from SGV now for expressing such ignorance. I'll stand aside and let him put you in place.
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Argh okay we can call it Hip Hop, but wack hip hop. The destroy Hip Hop by putting out wack mainstream music, so the fan thinks thats what hiphop is about (money, fame, what cloth you wear etc.)..
You have spoken stupidity typical of a wigger trying to fit in with the struggling lower classes by declaring what us negroes listen to (yes, we like 50) is not "real hip-hop".
Prepare to take a terrible beating from SGV now for expressing such ignorance. I'll stand aside and let him put you in place.
Okay
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Argh okay we can call it Hip Hop, but wack hip hop. The destroy Hip Hop by putting out wack mainstream music, so the fan thinks thats what hiphop is about (money, fame, what cloth you wear etc.)..
This is too easy. How can you only target the South for this? You must not know music whatsoever to say such a thing. I'm going to give you 3 examples of people I'm sure you consider Hip Hop doing the exact same thing:
Here's Nas:
The don, all the time, with all the shine
You small time, I ball with mine
Links, minks, Bentley, it's all with mine
My jams bump out to the borderline
UK hot with it, blew spots with it
Every continent love when I spit it
Corners to blocks, even the cops feel it
Brothas on lockdown on their cots feel it
It's real in the field the Last Mohican
Who survived in the streets and did something decent
Now I got plans to buy the whole hood
Legit' now, I ain't gotta lie to no judge
I make hits now, money I flip now
Hood fella every honey wanna kiss now
I lit up my neck, pinkie, and wrist now
So girls everywhere, this is how we get down
He talks about Money, Clothes AND Fame in one verse. According to you, Nas is not Hip Hop? Is this correct?
Masta Ace made a songs called "Inc Ride," "Born 2 Roll" and "Sittin' On Chrome" where all he did was talk about cars and such. According to you, Masta Ace is not Hip Hop? Correct?
Kool G Rap made a song that was all about his hopes of getting rich, hell he even named his album after it (Road to Riches). According to you, Kool G Rap is not Hip Hop? Correct?
Now Oklin, you have to be some sort of idiot to really think this way. I just posted 3 Hip Hop Legends, 3 artists who people seem to think are some of the best emcees ever in the game (hell, you have one of them in your sig)... If these 3 emcees are considered Hip Hop, while doing the same thing you're accusing the South of doing, why is the South not Hip Hop to you? If you could give a straight answer without any holes, you might have a case. But, seeing as you won't be able to, you'll just be labeled as a Hip Hop inept and you're a hater.
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^^^^^ Thank you, SGV, excellent job. That'll do.
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^^^^^ Thank you, SGV, excellent job. That'll do.
These wanna be elitest's in Hip Hop need to stop. It's all Hip Hop. Even KRS-One would agree.
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^^^^^ Thank you, SGV, excellent job. That'll do.
These wanna be elitest's in Hip Hop need to stop. It's all Hip Hop. Even KRS-One would agree.
and thats a hard stamp of approval to get
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^^^^^ Thank you, SGV, excellent job. That'll do.
These wanna be elitest's in Hip Hop need to stop. It's all Hip Hop. Even KRS-One would agree.
For real, I'm with you 100%. There's something about the basic foundation that these elitists just don't grasp, that's why they say the things they say.
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Their grasp on Hip Hop is to be anti-Mainstream. That's what they think "Real" Hip Hop is.
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Their grasp on Hip Hop is to be anti-Mainstream. That's what they think "Real" Hip Hop is.
Yeah, that's what I wanted to say. It ain't so much about them being elitists (don't rich people fiend to have expensive cars, too?) as much as them being wiggers who want to be seen as "real hip-hop heads" for dissing the present-day mainstream while ignoring the fact that the 90s' mainstream wasn't a whole lot better (if at all).
People have this misconception that the typical "wigger" is some white dude who dresses like a thug and speaks "ebonics" and listens only to the most mainstream hip-hop out there like 50 Cent or Mike Jones or Young Jeezy or whoever's popular the moment. That was true about 5-6 years ago, but times have changed. More often than not, the real "wiggers" these days are the ones who try as hard as possible to be anti-mainstream (and it shows) and claim they aren't really wiggers based on the old stereotype.
It is the job of us older folks to set these yung'uns straight and then line them up to be shot when the revolution pops off...oh, wait, sorry, nevermind, scratch that last part.
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Yeah, that's what I wanted to say. It ain't so much about them being elitists (don't rich people fiend to have expensive cars, too?) as much as them being wiggers who want to be seen as "real hip-hop heads" for dissing the present-day mainstream while ignoring the fact that the 90s' mainstream wasn't a whole lot better (if at all).
People have this misconception that the typical "wigger" is some white dude who dresses like a thug and speaks "ebonics" and listens only to the most mainstream hip-hop out there like 50 Cent or Mike Jones or Young Jeezy or whoever's popular the moment. That was true about 5-6 years ago, but times have changed. More often than not, the real "wiggers" these days are the ones who try as hard as possible to be anti-mainstream (and it shows) and claim they aren't really wiggers based on the old stereotype.
It is the job of us older folks to set these yung'uns straight and then line them up to be shot when the revolution pops off...oh, wait, sorry, nevermind, scratch that last part.
This shit had me laughing.
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Argh okay we can call it Hip Hop, but wack hip hop. The destroy Hip Hop by putting out wack mainstream music, so the fan thinks thats what hiphop is about (money, fame, what cloth you wear etc.)..
You have spoken stupidity typical of a wigger trying to fit in with the struggling lower classes by declaring what us negroes listen to (yes, we like 50) is not "real hip-hop".
Prepare to take a terrible beating from SGV now for expressing such ignorance. I'll stand aside and let him put you in place.
so you have to be black to talk about hiphop ???
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so you have to be black to talk about hiphop ???
No. You just can't be a wigger.
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is anybody aware that this has already been discussed in a 4 page thread
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Argh okay we can call it Hip Hop, but wack hip hop. The destroy Hip Hop by putting out wack mainstream music, so the fan thinks thats what hiphop is about (money, fame, what cloth you wear etc.)..
The South crunk music did ruin hip hop
Hey both of you idiots need to download this song when you get a chance:
DJ Unk feat. Andre 3000 & Jim Jones - Walk It Out Remix (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NNT2SM9P)
For Oklin: Andre 3000, someone I'm sure you consider to be Hip Hop reppin' on a Snap/Crunk track. Retract your statement.
For MoSav: A Dipset member on a Snap/Crunk track. Retract your statement.
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Argh okay we can call it Hip Hop, but wack hip hop. The destroy Hip Hop by putting out wack mainstream music, so the fan thinks thats what hiphop is about (money, fame, what cloth you wear etc.)..
This is too easy. How can you only target the South for this? You must not know music whatsoever to say such a thing. I'm going to give you 3 examples of people I'm sure you consider Hip Hop doing the exact same thing:
Here's Nas:
The don, all the time, with all the shine
You small time, I ball with mine
Links, minks, Bentley, it's all with mine
My jams bump out to the borderline
UK hot with it, blew spots with it
Every continent love when I spit it
Corners to blocks, even the cops feel it
Brothas on lockdown on their cots feel it
It's real in the field the Last Mohican
Who survived in the streets and did something decent
Now I got plans to buy the whole hood
Legit' now, I ain't gotta lie to no judge
I make hits now, money I flip now
Hood fella every honey wanna kiss now
I lit up my neck, pinkie, and wrist now
So girls everywhere, this is how we get down
He talks about Money, Clothes AND Fame in one verse. According to you, Nas is not Hip Hop? Is this correct?
Masta Ace made a songs called "Inc Ride," "Born 2 Roll" and "Sittin' On Chrome" where all he did was talk about cars and such. According to you, Masta Ace is not Hip Hop? Correct?
Kool G Rap made a song that was all about his hopes of getting rich, hell he even named his album after it (Road to Riches). According to you, Kool G Rap is not Hip Hop? Correct?
Now Oklin, you have to be some sort of idiot to really think this way. I just posted 3 Hip Hop Legends, 3 artists who people seem to think are some of the best emcees ever in the game (hell, you have one of them in your sig)... If these 3 emcees are considered Hip Hop, while doing the same thing you're accusing the South of doing, why is the South not Hip Hop to you? If you could give a straight answer without any holes, you might have a case. But, seeing as you won't be able to, you'll just be labeled as a Hip Hop inept and you're a hater.
Many of these new rappers don't talk about other than money, bitches and fame.
Yeah Nas, Masta Ace, Kool G Rap etc. have done tracks rapping about that, but they got other topics to..
see the difference?
Personally i don't really like Masta Ace's old stuff where he talks about all that.
and yeah it ain't only the south, a lot of rappers from east and west do the same to get fame.. only difference is that they also got quality music which the south don't really have, except some few artists.
Lol at you calling me a hater just because i come in with my opinion
And hmm i think i'm gonna take "destroying hip hop" back, "ruins hip hop" is better
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Many of these new rappers don't talk about other than money, bitches and fame.
Yeah Nas, Masta Ace, Kool G Rap etc. have done tracks rapping about that, but they got other topics to..
see the difference?
Personally i don't really like Masta Ace's old stuff where he talks about all that.
and yeah it ain't only the south, a lot of rappers from east and west do the same to get fame.. only difference is that they also got quality music which the south don't really have, except some few artists.
Lol at you calling me a hater just because i come in with my opinion
And hmm i think i'm gonna take "destroying hip hop" back, "ruins hip hop" is better
Lil Wayne has many topics. T.I. has many topics. Fabolous has many topics. Joe Budden has many topics. Hell, even Mike Jones has different topics. You ARE a hater cuz you don't listen to everything, THEN judge. You listen to ONE or TWO songs and then make a judgement. THAT'S being a hater.
Since you won't retract "ruins Hip Hop," would you then agree that Andre 3000 is ruining Hip Hop as well?
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ya SGV you have no argument with those track examples you give.....
But man the south has great lyricists...and show mad knowledge within their music...lol....sigh. Mainstream artists that are usually new in general are ruining hip hop.....They think the game is something that it really isnt.
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Many of these new rappers don't talk about other than money, bitches and fame.
Yeah Nas, Masta Ace, Kool G Rap etc. have done tracks rapping about that, but they got other topics to..
see the difference?
Personally i don't really like Masta Ace's old stuff where he talks about all that.
and yeah it ain't only the south, a lot of rappers from east and west do the same to get fame.. only difference is that they also got quality music which the south don't really have, except some few artists.
Lol at you calling me a hater just because i come in with my opinion
And hmm i think i'm gonna take "destroying hip hop" back, "ruins hip hop" is better
Lil Wayne has many topics. T.I. has many topics. Fabolous has many topics. Joe Budden has many topics. Hell, even Mike Jones has different topics. You ARE a hater cuz you don't listen to everything, THEN judge. You listen to ONE or TWO songs and then make a judgement. THAT'S being a hater.
Since you won't retract "ruins Hip Hop," would you then agree that Andre 3000 is ruining Hip Hop as well?
is Fabolous and Joe Budden from the south? hmm i didnt know that..
if i listen to 1 or 2 tracks and i don't like them at all, why would i wanna listen to more music from the artist?
hehe so a hater is someone who listen to some few tracks and say that they don't like them?
I never really listened so much to Andre 3000.. but I like some of Outkasts music.. and if I like it, then it is hip hop.. if i don't like it, it isnt hip hop.. I AM HIP HOP hehe.. nah i just thinks that in the 80's and 90's the hip hop was much better.. and most of the hip hop i hear today i don't like, so ofcourse i think it's ruining hip hop..
I'm gonna go to bed now so you won't get more replies till tomorrow
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ya SGV you have no argument with those track examples you give.....
But man the south has great lyricists...and show mad knowledge within their music...lol....sigh. Mainstream artists that are usually new in general are ruining hip hop.....They think the game is something that it really isnt.
Really? How do they not support what I'm saying? If they can talk abou all that stuff and still be considered Hip Hop, why can't others? By the way, ever heard of dead prez? Little Brother? Field Mob? Strange Fruit Project? Goodie Mob? Don't be an idiot. You don't know Hip Hop.
is Fabolous and Joe Budden from the south? hmm i didnt know that..
if i listen to 1 or 2 tracks and i don't like them at all, why would i wanna listen to more music from the artist?
hehe so a hater is someone who listen to some few tracks and say that they don't like them?
I never really listened so much to Andre 3000.. but I like some of Outkasts music.. and if I like it, then it is hip hop.. if i don't like it, it isnt hip hop.. I AM HIP HOP hehe.. nah i just thinks that in the 80's and 90's the hip hop was much better.. and most of the hip hop i hear today i don't like, so ofcourse i think it's ruining hip hop..
I'm gonna go to bed now so you won't get more replies till tomorrow
As per your first question:
Many of these new rappers don't talk about other than money, bitches and fame.
You stated "new rappers" not Southern Rappers.
If you've never heard more than a couple of tracks from an artist, then how can you judge that person? That's like someone judging Eminem only off of "Without Me" and "Real Slim Shady." That's only 2 songs in the many that he has in his catalog. You're not giving the person a chance. That's what a hater does. And, you not liking the music and the music ruining Hip Hop are two dfferent things. I don't like E-40's new album, does that mean I think he's ruining Hip Hop? No. He just made an album I didn't like. You need to differ taste from a fact.
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SGV i dont know hip hop? heh, when they say the "south" is killing hip hop...i dont think they mean dead prez and little brother....the "typical" southern rappers ARE NOT GOOD LYRICISTS...its just how it is. They have no knowledge of anything. there is nothing intellectual ABOUT ANY of the tracks alot of them make. Lets say joe budden does a track to make money..woop dee doo no one likes it...but then u listen to his shit over all and your like wow this dude is sick, hes real. these guys cant do nothing but the bullshit music. (alot of them atleast)
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So Lil Wayne can't spit some deep shit? Wanna back that up?
Trick Daddy can't spit some deep shit? Again, back it up.
Bun B, Chamillionaire, Eightball & MJG, these are your "typical" Southern Rappers. So, like I said, you don't know a damn thing about Hip Hop.
If they say the South is killing Hip Hop then they mean Little Brother and dead prez, unless they say otherwise. Don't be stupid.
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I think the fact is that almost everything has been done, and almost every rapper ( especially the south ) does not want to deviate from whats hot. Nobody is really taking risks anymore, and what attracted me to hip-hop in the first place was because it was "dangerous" and they were doing shit outside the box. Now everyones stuck inside of that box, and someone ate the key. Hip-hop/rap lost it's edge, and I know I'm the only one thinking that.
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lmao Lil wayne spittin his deep shit sounds retarded and un-convincing to me...SGV dont talk cocky like you the know it all....you cant change alot of peoples opinions. If i say the south...i do not mean Little Brother and Dead Prez...im talking bout the south you see everywhere on MTV and the radio you dumbfuck....so please know the difference between what the SOTUH REALLY IS and the stereotypical SOUTH. cause i don't think alot of these people are talking about the entire south when they say southern music is killing hip hop dumbass. I don't think everyone is that ignorant to think its the actualy south as a whole and all southern rappers. Trick daddy is also diff that man has been music before the whole crunk bullshit took over. So again ummm wow you have no point. Eight Ball and MJG have been here before this typical south took over....your mixing all your artists up. so if they say the south is killing hip hop they dont mean little brother and dead prez. Geez fucking get over the fact that many people believe this opinion and you cant see it the way they dude. Your perspective is reasonable, and it makes damn sense....BUT THEY AINT TALKING BOUT THE WHOLE SOUTH....are you catching on yet?...IF anyone says the south as a whole (which means they include the likes of Outkast dead prez little brother) then id be damned as well.
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You sound upset. Truth hurts people, not lies, so I must be telling the truth. To sit here and try to justify what people are saying with "well I think they meant this." No what they meant is what they said. And there is NO stereotypical South, just as theres no Stereotypical West. Why? Cuz the regions are too big to be stereotyped, smart guy. If you say something from Texas sounds like something from Atlanta, you'd be an idiot. To say something from Memphis sounds like something from Miami, again, would be idiotic.
As for "mixing up" artists... NO. The artists I named are the same artists that represent the South. But they hurt your argument, so you want to move them to the side. Also, prove to me that Weezy can't spit deep. You say he can't, so go through his albums and see if you can't find anything deep on them.
I'm not trying to change opinions, I'm just showing you guys how ridiculous you are and how stupid your idealogy is. You characters are uneducated in Southern Hip Hop. As I watch MTV, I not only see videos from the Young Jocs and the Lil Jons, but as well as the Bun Bs, the Lil Kekes, etc. The balance is there. BUT, when an uneducated hater steps in, he only sees ONE side and THINKS that's fact.
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you sound convincing, but im still convinced you're a dumbass =] .....by the way like i said Lil Wayne's deep shit is aweful. i could careless if you like him or not. Besides i find it funny that southern rappers are upset at what Nas says.
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yeah man, unless the south come up with a groundbreakin album like illmatic they shud shut the fuck up bout nas....
and personally i doubt they will some up with somethin like illmatic seein as their style of hiphop is somewhat simplistic ::)
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yeah man, unless the south come up with a groundbreakin album like illmatic they shud shut the fuck up bout nas....
and personally i doubt they will some up with somethin like illmatic seein as their style of hiphop is somewhat simplistic ::)
::) yourself, that's got to be the dumbest statement out of the lot.
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Seems like you don't got much to say anymore. Calling me a dumb ass has no merit to the convo, as the idiotic statements have came from your side.
LMAO @ The person who said the South can't make an album like Illmatic. Lets just say an album like Illmatic won't hold as much weight Down South as lets say UGKs first joint.
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the "typical" southern rappers ARE NOT GOOD LYRICISTS
And neither are/were about 90% of the West Coast rappers.
You wanna talk in stereotypes? Here's one for you...the typical West Coast album is some cat bragging about being a Crip or a Blood and then rapping about lowriders, smoking chronic, fucking bitches, partying, and doing 187s on rival bangers, with no socially conscious material. And most of them are bad rappers who aren't as good as Rakim or Nas or Biggie. Clearly, the West Coast ruined hip-hop in the 90s.
Whoops, I forgot...that's EXACTLY what the East Coast cats used to say 10 years ago.
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Damn Ells... Don't hurt em!
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damn Ells hope you dont offend me, im not about the west coast either....or necassarily the east. but of all the style ive heard in the mainstream that is promoted the most....the southern style is pretty simplistic...but u like what you like, you feel what you feel. I never liked gangster music anyways =] Nor crunk. but im not a gangster and i dont get crunk usually.
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i can name a bunch of albums from the south better than Illmatic
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damn Ells hope you dont offend me, im not about the west coast either....or necassarily the east. but of all the style ive heard in the mainstream that is promoted the most....the southern style is pretty simplistic...but u like what you like, you feel what you feel. I never liked gangster music anyways =] Nor crunk. but im not a gangster and i dont get crunk usually.
I know, but I'm talking about the people who give Daz or MC Eiht a pass while crucifying Young Jeezy or T.I. or whoever. What the fuck is so complex about the West Coast shit? It's all just gangbanign, lowridin, and endo-smokin, ain't it? Yeah, you really gotta be on some conscious shit to talk about that...
But of course talking about chopper-blastin, candy paint, and sizzurp-sippin is not hip-hop.
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the "typical" southern rappers ARE NOT GOOD LYRICISTS
And neither are/were about 90% of the West Coast rappers.
You wanna talk in stereotypes? Here's one for you...the typical West Coast album is some cat bragging about being a Crip or a Blood and then rapping about lowriders, smoking chronic, fucking bitches, partying, and doing 187s on rival bangers, with no socially conscious material. And most of them are bad rappers who aren't as good as Rakim or Nas or Biggie. Clearly, the West Coast ruined hip-hop in the 90s.
Whoops, I forgot...that's EXACTLY what the East Coast cats used to say 10 years ago.
ouch, somebody got butthurt...
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ouch, somebody got butthurt...
Nah, you just trying to save face cause I made you look like a retard. Never contradict a GOD.
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TROOF!
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ouch, somebody got butthurt...
Nah, you just trying to save face cause I made you look like a retard. Never contradict a GOD.
lol if ur a god, what does that make me? to a dimension htat hasnt even be named yet....sucka
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lol if ur a god, what does that make me? to a dimension htat hasnt even be named yet....sucka
It makes you a devil, part of the Yakub Crew.
You were wrong, and I proved you wrong. For that, you must bow before Blackman.
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All I got to say is that if the south ain't real hip hop for snappin', gettin crunk, stuntin, bling bling, and sizzurp, the the east ain't real for pretending to be mafiosos and columbian drug lords (Nas, Kool G Rap, Wu-Tang Clan), LA ain't real for gangbanging all over their albums (Snoop, DPG, NWA, Mack 10, etc) and Oakland ain't real because of pimpin' (E40, Too $hort).
Yall need to get off of this shit for real.
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HEY SGV. .SO WOULD YOU CONSIDER D4L HIP HOP??
SGV GO SHAKE THAT LAFFY TAFFY
THAT LAFFY TAFFY