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Title: China vs. USA-Taiwan
Post by: Word to Everything on May 24, 2006, 12:12:54 AM
(http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/US/05/23/pentagon.china/story.soldiers.ap.jpg)
China has deployed 400,000 ground-force personnel to the three military regions opposite Taiwan.

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- China's rapid military buildup could throw off the balance of power in Asia and threaten other countries in the region, according to a Pentagon report on China's military power.

The Pentagon's annual report to Congress says the country's consistent defense spending on aircraft, missiles and ships means China is ever closer to a longer-range military reach.

"Several aspects of China's military development have surprised U.S. analysts, including the pace and scope of its strategic forces modernization," the report says. "China's military expansion is already such as to alter regional military balances." (Watch the Pentagon cast a wary eye on China's buildup -- 2:18)

While China has been expanding its reach with conventional weapons, the country has also improved its nuclear capability with more and improved ballistic missiles.

The report stresses that the country's intention to use them only for defensive purposes has not changed, but it is both "qualitatively and quantitatively" improving its long-range nuclear missile force.

The "Military Power of the People's Republic of China 2006," report also highlights China's immediate focus on planning for "Taiwan Strait contingencies," including the possibility of U.S. intervention.

Taiwan, backed by the United States as its main arms supplier, has a limited Chinese rule. China has long considered the island off its coast to be part of its territory.

The United States has said it would defend Taiwan if it were attacked by China, and China has said it would invade if the country officially declared its independence.

The 2006 report says that by late 2005, China had deployed some 710-790 mobile short-range ballistic missiles to garrisons opposite Taiwan, and deployment continues to expand at an average rate of about 100 missiles per year.

China has deployed 400,000 ground-force personnel to the three military regions opposite Taiwan, an increase of 25,000 from last year, according to the report.

It has been upgrading these units with tanks, armored personnel carriers, and a substantial increase in the amount of artillery pieces, the report states.

The country has also increased and upgraded its air forces with planes that can fly faster and farther, totaling about 700 aircraft in range of Taiwan, it says.

China's move to increase its influence over Taiwan and the region has been costly. It publicly says its defense budget for 2006 is up 15 percent from last year, spending about $35 billion.

The Pentagon report says the actual budget is between $70 billion and $105 billion.

This compares with the U.S. military budget which topped $400 billion for 2005.


http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/23/pentagon.china/index.html
Title: Re: China vs. USA-Taiwan
Post by: Word to Everything on May 24, 2006, 12:22:27 AM
China should attack Taiwan...and Iran should attack Israel at the same time  :laugh:

Osama nukes American cities starting with the Bay/NYC.

While the Middle East/Africa/South America withhold gasoline  ;D That would be entertaining.
Title: Re: China vs. USA-Taiwan
Post by: 7even on May 24, 2006, 05:13:39 AM
China should attack Taiwan...and Iran should attack Israel at the same time  :laugh:

Osama nukes American cities starting with the Bay/NYC.

While the Middle East/Africa/South America withhold gasoline  ;D That would be entertaining.

That's what will probably happen
Title: Re: China vs. USA-Taiwan
Post by: Don Rizzle on May 24, 2006, 08:04:56 AM
america don't want war with china, they can't handle iraq n they couldn't handle that tiny asian country vietnam just imagine what china would be like...........
Title: Re: China vs. USA-Taiwan
Post by: Don Seer on May 24, 2006, 08:24:38 AM
^

remote controlled bomb drops and next to no troops on the ground...

they say that modern warfare isn't done the old way..

its not like one would be invading the other to take it over.. but something like this would surely start a world war.
Title: Re: China vs. USA-Taiwan
Post by: Don Rizzle on May 24, 2006, 08:35:52 AM
both of them can reach each other with nukes...........
Title: Re: China vs. USA-Taiwan
Post by: Word to Everything on May 24, 2006, 08:51:29 AM
Get ready to suit up Overseer/Don Rizzle...you guys are the 2nd best target.
Title: Re: China vs. USA-Taiwan
Post by: Don Rizzle on May 24, 2006, 08:56:53 AM
WTF? we ain't involved in any way, we haven't said we will protect taiwaun - we don't even have diplomatic relations with them!
Title: Re: China vs. USA-Taiwan
Post by: Word to Everything on May 24, 2006, 09:08:47 AM
WTF? we ain't involved in any way, we haven't said we will protect taiwaun - we don't even have diplomatic relations with them!

lol nice try...you're either with him or against him  :D
Title: Re: China vs. USA-Taiwan
Post by: Don Rizzle on May 24, 2006, 09:12:31 AM
when it comes to a bunch of arabs maybe, but with china not a chance
Title: Re: China vs. USA-Taiwan
Post by: Word to Everything on May 24, 2006, 09:13:31 AM
when it comes to a bunch of arabs maybe, but with china not a chance

What about Germans  ;D
Title: Re: China vs. USA-Taiwan
Post by: Don Rizzle on May 24, 2006, 09:27:03 AM
what about them? we aren't about to goto war with germany, but i tell u this we never lost a war to them either and there hasn't been a sucessful invasion on britain for 1040 years

btw germany is britains biggest military base, we own that mutha fucker 8)
Title: Re: China vs. USA-Taiwan
Post by: Word to Everything on May 24, 2006, 09:55:28 AM
what about them? we aren't about to goto war with germany, but i tell u this we never lost a war to them either and there hasn't been a sucessful invasion on britain for 1040 years

btw germany is britains biggest military base, we own that mutha fucker 8)

Nevermind.
Title: Re: China vs. USA-Taiwan
Post by: J Bananas on May 24, 2006, 12:51:24 PM
yeah im sure the roaches in eritrea will go on with their shitty existence like nothing happened, easy for u to laugh at it
Title: Re: China vs. USA-Taiwan
Post by: WestCoasta on May 24, 2006, 01:23:57 PM
lol at people who are actually out to destroy the world
Title: Re: China vs. USA-Taiwan
Post by: Word to Everything on May 24, 2006, 11:53:19 PM
yeah im sure the roaches in eritrea will go on with their shitty existence like nothing happened, easy for u to laugh at it

Not too many roaches, mosquitoes are the problem.
Title: Re: China vs. USA-Taiwan
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on May 25, 2006, 12:17:40 PM
lol at people who are actually out to destroy the world

so lol @ your govt?
Title: Re: China vs. USA-Taiwan
Post by: Real American on May 25, 2006, 01:23:01 PM
lol at people who are actually out to destroy the world

so lol @ your govt?

Ask countries like Germany, Japan, and South Korea if the United States left it better of or worse off.....

Title: Re: China vs. USA-Taiwan
Post by: Eihtball on May 25, 2006, 01:37:40 PM
Ask countries like Germany, Japan, and South Korea if the United States left it better of or worse off.....

You ever been to South Korea?  Most people there are not happy that the United States installed an authoritarian government in the ROK, and then supplied its armed forces and kept it in power for several decades.  Syngman Rhee was as bad as Kim Il Sung.  Also, you ever heard of Gwangju?  If you wanna make comparisons to the evils of the Chinese government, that's often called "South Korea's Tianamen".

Japan turned out well, can't anybody deny that, but I remember how in the 80s and early-90s, conservatives just like yourself were getting jealous because Japan was just TOO successful, and they were pissed that a bunch of yellow people were living better than Americans and not buying from us as much as we were buying from them.  Guess democracy and capitalism are only good in other countries as long as they don't beat us at our own game, huh?
Title: Re: China vs. USA-Taiwan
Post by: Real American on May 25, 2006, 07:08:49 PM
You ever been to South Korea?  Most people there are not happy that the United States installed an authoritarian government in the ROK, and then supplied its armed forces and kept it in power for several decades.  Syngman Rhee was as bad as Kim Il Sung.  Also, you ever heard of Gwangju?  If you wanna make comparisons to the evils of the Chinese government, that's often called "South Korea's Tianamen".

Japan turned out well, can't anybody deny that, but I remember how in the 80s and early-90s, conservatives just like yourself were getting jealous because Japan was just TOO successful, and they were pissed that a bunch of yellow people were living better than Americans and not buying from us as much as we were buying from them.  Guess democracy and capitalism are only good in other countries as long as they don't beat us at our own game, huh?

Just stop, man. Seriously....just stop. You have now been reduced to following me into threads and taking the opposite position of what I say, no matter how stupid and foolish it makes you look.

If you are going to sit there and tell me that Japan, Germany, and South Korea are not better off thanks to the involvement of the US for no reason other then to spite me then fine. It is only going to make you even more pathetic then you already come off. Then you are going off on tangents talking about what people said about Japan in the 1980-'s, things that have nothing to do with the topic at hand. Are you seriously that obsessed with bashing conservatives? You seriously need to get a life, man.

Title: Re: China vs. USA-Taiwan
Post by: Eihtball on May 25, 2006, 07:38:59 PM
Just stop, man. Seriously....just stop. You have now been reduced to following me into threads and taking the opposite position of what I say, no matter how stupid and foolish it makes you look.

Maybe your bullshit just pollutes so many topics in this section that we're bound to post in the same ones more often than not.

But yes, I am obsessed with you now and I will haunt you for as long as you post on DubCC.  If we have to live with your jingoistic posts, then you'll just have to live with my criticism of them.

If you are going to sit there and tell me that Japan, Germany, and South Korea are not better off thanks to the involvement of the US for no reason other then to spite me then fine. It is only going to make you even more pathetic then you already come off.

Tell me, do you really think South Koreans should be grateful to the U.S. for having to live 40 years under an American-sponsored dictatorship?

Then you are going off on tangents talking about what people said about Japan in the 1980-'s, things that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

You don't think it's ironic that America helps Japan become an economic superpower, and then gets jealous when the Japanese begin to surpass us at our own game?  It contradicts the image of a benevolent America that you espouse.

Are you seriously that obsessed with bashing conservatives? You seriously need to get a life, man.

Are seriously that obsessed with bashing Muslims, immigrants, liberals, blacks, and anyone else who doesn't fit in with your utopian vision of America?

You seriously need to get a life, "man".
Title: Re: China vs. USA-Taiwan
Post by: Don Rizzle on May 26, 2006, 03:16:26 AM
Just stop, man. Seriously....just stop. You have now been reduced to following me into threads and taking the opposite position of what I say, no matter how stupid and foolish it makes you look.

Maybe your bullshit just pollutes so many topics in this section that we're bound to post in the same ones more often than not.

But yes, I am obsessed with you now and I will haunt you for as long as you post on DubCC.  If we have to live with your jingoistic posts, then you'll just have to live with my criticism of them.

If you are going to sit there and tell me that Japan, Germany, and South Korea are not better off thanks to the involvement of the US for no reason other then to spite me then fine. It is only going to make you even more pathetic then you already come off.

Tell me, do you really think South Koreans should be grateful to the U.S. for having to live 40 years under an American-sponsored dictatorship?
Then you are going off on tangents talking about what people said about Japan in the 1980-'s, things that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

You don't think it's ironic that America helps Japan become an economic superpower, and then gets jealous when the Japanese begin to surpass us at our own game?  It contradicts the image of a benevolent America that you espouse.

Are you seriously that obsessed with bashing conservatives? You seriously need to get a life, man.

Are seriously that obsessed with bashing Muslims, immigrants, liberals, blacks, and anyone else who doesn't fit in with your utopian vision of America?

You seriously need to get a life, "man".
my gf is from South korea so i know a bit about this and although might not like dictatorship it was way better than japn being their ruler why do u think they are still pist at japan? they are not friends like england and germany, they keep threatening to cut diplomatic relations, use force over disputed islands etc.
Title: Re: China vs. USA-Taiwan
Post by: Eihtball on May 26, 2006, 09:49:09 AM
[my gf is from South korea so i know a bit about this and although might not like dictatorship it was way better than japn being their ruler

And the U.S. also more-or-less allowed that, too.  The Treaty of Versailles recognized Japan's colonial interests in the Pacific, Korea included.  The Koreans carried out demonstrations when the Paris talks were in progress, which the Japanese colonial administration suppressed, and nobody said shit bout that.