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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Crockett on November 11, 2008, 09:17:30 AM
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whats up yall.. i was listning to all eyes on me the other day all the way tru both disks... and it came to me that it is a more mainstreem pop soudning album but it has true west bangers that define the 90s
i mean there are hardly and tracks i skip if any the only reason id skip a song is becasue i herd it a million times.. this album has as you all know daz quik ect production.. and feats like kurupt, daz, snoop, nate dogg, dru down... big syke. thug life outlaws. i mean the westcoast heavy hitter list goes on and on.. theres some pop songs and some tracks with deep messages its basicly a perfect album...
and when i think of dre's detox and i see wack ass names like 50 and stuff.. that fckin euro white boy wigger shit... im thinking rap is over... dre could make a album and put on some majour westcoast vets and make a proper west only album... but he wont becasue that wont make the money... wheres spice 1 eiht scc. ecrdres basicly telling everyone on the west that they aint good enough to be on his high profile glossy album... dudes straight wack... he aint givin a fuck about the west he only making sure that his album is goign to sell to these fake as whiteboys.. over here. thats the hard hittin truth hes making sure his feats are all A list like its a fuckin award ceremoney... shocking
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how can u compare a classic to an album that hasnt even come out? fuckin idiot.
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how can u compare a classic to an album that hasnt even come out? fuckin idiot.
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lol
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how can u compare a classic to an album that hasnt even come out? fuckin idiot.
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how can u compare a classic to an album that hasnt even come out? fuckin idiot.
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I don't think he is comparing the 2. Not that I am speaking for him, but the way I interpreted his post is will Detox have a similar lineup like AEOM or will it be more of a mainstream compilation just for the marquee value to it.
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how can u compare a classic to an album that hasnt even come out? fuckin idiot.
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you missed my point you fuckin silly cunt
I don't think he is comparing the 2. Not that I am speaking for him, but the way I interpreted his post is will Detox have a similar lineup like AEOM or will it be more of a mainstream compilation just for the marquee value to it.
yea thats exactly what i mean....
if u take detox by face value i know i wont buy it becasue of the g unit factor...
im just saying that 2 pac did it with solid feats.... i think dres scared if he uses west cats less people will buy it
lol all all you cunts quoting this fool with 70 posts....
did u even read my post
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how can u compare a classic to an album that hasnt even come out? fuckin idiot.
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you missed my point you fuckin silly cunt
I don't think he is comparing the 2. Not that I am speaking for him, but the way I interpreted his post is will Detox have a similar lineup like AEOM or will it be more of a mainstream compilation just for the marquee value to it.
yea thats exactly what i mean....
if u take detox by face value i know i wont buy it becasue of the g unit factor...
im just saying that 2 pac did it with solid feats.... i think dres scared if he uses west cats less people will buy it
lol all all you cunts quoting this fool with 70 posts....
did u even read my post
All good man I understood what you meant.
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Yeah he got some bs artist listed but 50 can be dope on a hook, and eminem can spit hot verses, detox could become pretty good (if it ever comes out that is) but it won't be the same as 2pac did with all eyes on me with 'lesser' names because of the simple fact that they just don't sell. fucking sucks.
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Yeah he got some bs artist listed but 50 can be dope on a hook, and eminem can spit hot verses, detox could become pretty good (if it ever comes out that is) but it won't be the same as 2pac did with all eyes on me with 'lesser' names because of the simple fact that they just don't sell. fucking sucks.
yea i feel that... i jsut want a westcoast album ya dig
dre has the juice to do it but he wont imagin a detox with shitlaod of feats of all the westcasts... pipedream..
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All Eyez On Me wasn't even Pac's best album. It had some of his biggest hits and best records on there and that often allows for the lesser material to be overshadowed in most fans' minds but "Me Against The World" and "Makaveli" are both better albums. And it wasn't like it was all West Coast rappers either. It had Method Man, Redman, plus R&B singers like Danny Boy and K-Ci and Jo-Jo. This was a different environment altogether when it came out too where New York wasn't fucking with the West Coast and for the most part, vice versa.
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Both albums are using only the hottest rappers of it's time, All Eyez on Me just happened to be in the golden age of the west (one year after in my opinion) so thats why it had so many west artists. Alhough I wish Detox had these artists, do you think some kid in the record store will pick up Detox and be like "Oh man, Tray-Dee!"
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yea i agree that "me against the world" was better.. your missing the point..... its not what we think is better its what the world knows and everyone else all over the world knows that all eyez on me.. aint no one in europ knowing strictly or 2pacolyps.... ya dig.. im saying pac did it right with that album.... and all im saying is dre already got off on the wrong foot...
Both albums are using only the hottest rappers of it's time, All Eyez on Me just happened to be in the golden age of the west (one year after in my opinion) so thats why it had so many west artists. Alhough I wish Detox had these artists, do you think some kid in the record store will pick up Detox and be like "Oh man, Tray-Dee!"
pete rock
wu tang
fuckin east cats of the 90s especially 96 is endless.... and i know he could of got these cats on all eyez... and thats waht im saying so bascily dre is making the album forlittle kids and dudes who dont know shit aobut hip hop you ahve proved it with your last comment that detox wont be a concrete hip hop album but a trans gender piece of shit.. like kanya west or summin.. thats how i feel anyway
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All Eyez On Me unified the coast. And Pac was homies with everybody on that album excluding Dre. Much like the 1st 2 Chronics. Now the question is will Detox be like that or just a bunch of collabos with big names, which might make it less cohesive.
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how can u compare a classic to an album that hasnt even come out? fuckin idiot.
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dumb question for a dumb answer.
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i don't think you can compare either of them.
one is a compilation from a man who is primarily a producer,
the other was a double album from a solo artist.
and if we went back to when all eyes on me dropped,
im sure you woulda had a grip of older heads probably would
be saying the same shit about tupac's album at the time.
for me, i trust the quality of the album. i really doubt it'll be
a "pop" album, but it will have those really big collabo type
songs for the radio and what not. i trust dre's ear and his
talent to craft good albums.
and if dudes like dj quik are saying it's got heaters, then
it's probably gonna be good.
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all eyez on me is the greatest album of all time in my opinion, in no way will detox be on the same level. dre can't rap for shit
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I don't believe that "Detox" will be a classic anymore.. not wit these wack ass rappers like "50 and friends"...
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dre cant rebirth west coast forever. why he need's washit up rappers,he dont,he's a legend. why he need Daz,he aint got solid beat like 10 years,and good or some hot beatz i dont wonna even talkin abaut.
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i don't think you can compare either of them.
one is a compilation from a man who is primarily a producer,
the other was a double album from a solo artist.
and if we went back to when all eyes on me dropped,
im sure you woulda had a grip of older heads probably would
be saying the same shit about tupac's album at the time.
for me, i trust the quality of the album. i really doubt it'll be
a "pop" album, but it will have those really big collabo type
songs for the radio and what not. i trust dre's ear and his
talent to craft good albums.
and if dudes like dj quik are saying it's got heaters, then
it's probably gonna be good.
you trust his ear...
his ear sucks... fuckin 50.. fuckin eminem...
and quik has to say that he wouldent wanna be cast out would he... and quiks latest hasent been all that either.. all im sayin is he needs to think about his coast and not his billboard possition.....
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you trust his ear...
his ear sucks... fuckin 50.. fuckin eminem...
Eminem is a fuckin' good rapper ("Lose Yourself"), but.. he's too commercial
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Yeah he got some bs artist listed but 50 can be dope on a hook, and eminem can spit hot verses, detox could become pretty good (if it ever comes out that is) but it won't be the same as 2pac did with all eyes on me with 'lesser' names because of the simple fact that they just don't sell. fucking sucks.
yea i feel that... i jsut want a westcoast album ya dig
dre has the juice to do it but he wont imagin a detox with shitlaod of feats of all the westcasts... pipedream..
you keep forgetting dr dre does not have the juice anymore to make an album liuke the . jimmy i of insterscope has the juice & would not let an album like that out . dr dre is stuck in another death row postion
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how can u compare a classic to an album that hasnt even come out? fuckin idiot.
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LOL.....
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Yeah he got some bs artist listed but 50 can be dope on a hook, and eminem can spit hot verses, detox could become pretty good (if it ever comes out that is) but it won't be the same as 2pac did with all eyes on me with 'lesser' names because of the simple fact that they just don't sell. fucking sucks.
yea i feel that... i jsut want a westcoast album ya dig
dre has the juice to do it but he wont imagin a detox with shitlaod of feats of all the westcasts... pipedream..
you kepp forgetting dr dre does have the juice anymore to make an album liuke the . jimmy i of insterscope has the juice & would not let an album like that out . dr dre is stuck in another death row postion
dr dre has put al ot of people out and up.. id of thaught by now hed have the juice to call shots???
how can u compare a classic to an album that hasnt even come out? fuckin idiot.
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LOL.....
laughing at a idiot...
small thigns please small minds homie
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Yeah he got some bs artist listed but 50 can be dope on a hook, and eminem can spit hot verses, detox could become pretty good (if it ever comes out that is) but it won't be the same as 2pac did with all eyes on me with 'lesser' names because of the simple fact that they just don't sell. fucking sucks.
yea i feel that... i jsut want a westcoast album ya dig
dre has the juice to do it but he wont imagin a detox with shitlaod of feats of all the westcasts... pipedream..
you kepp forgetting dr dre does have the juice anymore to make an album liuke the . jimmy i of insterscope has the juice & would not let an album like that out . dr dre is stuck in another death row postion
dr dre has put al ot of people out and up.. id of thaught by now hed have the juice to call shots???
how can u compare a classic to an album that hasnt even come out? fuckin idiot.
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LOL.....
laughing at a idiot...
small thigns please small minds homie
LOL. i think you may have misspelled a word einstein.
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why are you comparing a classic album to an album that hasn't even come out?? fuckin idiot!!
jp, but i'm coppin detox no matter what...I'm looking forward to the music production, not the features. 8)
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Yeah he got some bs artist listed but 50 can be dope on a hook, and eminem can spit hot verses, detox could become pretty good (if it ever comes out that is) but it won't be the same as 2pac did with all eyes on me with 'lesser' names because of the simple fact that they just don't sell. fucking sucks.
yea i feel that... i jsut want a westcoast album ya dig
dre has the juice to do it but he wont imagin a detox with shitlaod of feats of all the westcasts... pipedream..
you kepp forgetting dr dre does have the juice anymore to make an album liuke the . jimmy i of insterscope has the juice & would not let an album like that out . dr dre is stuck in another death row postion
dr dre has put al ot of people out and up.. id of thaught by now hed have the juice to call shots???
he lost his juice to jimmy i because aftermath was losing too much money . so jimmy i bought most of aftermath
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IMBECILE!!!
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CRETIN !!!!!!!!!!!
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and when i think of dre's detox and i see wack ass names like 50 and stuff.. that fckin euro white boy wigger shit... im thinking rap is over... wheres spice 1 eiht scc. ecrdres
Chronic 2001 must have been so wack because Em was on it, did you buy it?
Eminem has way more talent than your typical "Eiht, one of the 20 million gangsta rappers" people.
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LOL its fun to come back to this stupid ass thread you started a day later to see the replies ha what a loser!
ps. kill yourself. fuckin idiot.
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Detox is not shaping up to be a classic. Fergie on it? Fuckin' ridiculous. Hopefully Dre proves me wrong though.
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"Detox" DOSEN'T EXIST - ALL Y'ALL JUST NEED TO WAKE THE FUCK UP AND REALIZE THAT Y'ALL WAITING FOR SOMETHING THAT WILL NEVER EVER COME OUT!!!
Face it and move on - there's plenty dope West Coast artist that you can look forward too - Fuck A Detox...
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LOL its fun to come back to this stupid ass thread you started a day later to see the replies ha what a loser!
ps. kill yourself. fuckin idiot.
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i cant to many benzes to many paychecks
you missed the point you fuckin silly cunt
all these other bitches are missing the point as well.. yall are fuckin kids read my fuckin posts... only a handfull of people got what i ment.. all jumped on this bitches dick with 70 posts.. yall assuming ASS U
fuckin read what i wrote.....
and when i think of dre's detox and i see wack ass names like 50 and stuff.. that fckin euro white boy wigger shit... im thinking rap is over... wheres spice 1 eiht scc. ecrdres
Chronic 2001 must have been so wack because Em was on it, did you buy it?
Eminem has way more talent than your typical "Eiht, one of the 20 million gangsta rappers" people.
dude has no talent.. he can run around on stage and make a fool of him self or talk about britney spears yea il give him that.. oh and he can sell records with bullshit on it.. if you call that a tallent...
Detox is not shaping up to be a classic. Fergie on it? Fuckin' ridiculous. Hopefully Dre proves me wrong though.
yea man that how i feel.. i cant listen to a rap album with fergi on it you gotta be kiddin... every one else in ehre missed the point and dident bother to read fuck all of you that dident read my post
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LOL its fun to come back to this stupid ass thread you started a day later to see the replies ha what a loser!
ps. kill yourself. fuckin idiot.
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i cant to many benzes to many paychecks
you missed the point you fuckin silly cunt
all these other bitches are missing the point as well.. yall are fuckin kids read my fuckin posts... only a handfull of people got what i ment.. all jumped on this bitches dick with 70 posts.. yall assuming ASS U
fuckin read what i wrote.....
and when i think of dre's detox and i see wack ass names like 50 and stuff.. that fckin euro white boy wigger shit... im thinking rap is over... wheres spice 1 eiht scc. ecrdres
Chronic 2001 must have been so wack because Em was on it, did you buy it?
Eminem has way more talent than your typical "Eiht, one of the 20 million gangsta rappers" people.
dude has no talent.. he can run around on stage and make a fool of him self or talk about britney spears yea il give him that.. oh and he can sell records with bullshit on it.. if you call that a tallent...
LOL at your ignorance; sure Encore was a huge letdown, but saying that he has no talent is like saying that the Game is a lyrical monster :loco:
and the reason that the others weren't picking up on your first post, is because there's nothing to build on.
you're basically crying about the same thing over and over
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Detox Shouldn't Even Be Mentioned In The Same Sentence As All Eyez On Me.....Matter Of Fact Dre Shouldn't Be Mentioned Either Next To 2Pac...
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^^and why Not????
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^^and why Not????
because Dre isn't a thug ;D
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^^and why Not????
because Dre isn't a thug ;D
no cos hes a bitch
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Maybe with Detox they will try to appeal to the younger fans, as well as the audience that already knows Dre. See, that is what All Eyez On Me was... it was a true product of the record label and a great one for that! We can only hope Detox will be good, but until then we always have that classic that goes by the name of All Eyez On Me 8)
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^^and why Not????
because Dre isn't a thug ;D
lol....Nice One!
;D ;D ;D ;)
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^^and why Not????
because Dre isn't a thug ;D
I Hope You Convinced Now ;)
lol....Nice One!
;D ;D ;D ;)
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^^and why Not????
because Dre isn't a thug ;D
lol....Nice One!
;D ;D ;D ;)
:cheers:
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^^and why Not????
because Dre isn't a thug ;D
lol....Nice One!
;D ;D ;D ;)
:cheers:
wtf
yall know deep down as soon as 50 and eminem and fergi team up on a album... its not hip hop... but pop.. all i was getting at was pac did a big succsesfull album with real hip hopers.. and not billboard toppers
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^^^the Album is not out yet,so until then t's pure speculation. Fergie may not even make the final cut!
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^^^the Album is not out yet,so until then t's pure speculation. Fergie may not even make the final cut!
we will see.. but there isent even speculation weather or not decent rappers will apear.. it just seems to be gettin of on the wrong foot from the get go
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^^and why Not????
because Dre isn't a thug ;D
lol....Nice One!
;D ;D ;D ;)
:cheers:
wtf
yall know deep down as soon as 50 and eminem and fergi team up on a album... its not hip hop... but pop.. all i was getting at was pac did a big succsesfull album with real hip hopers.. and not billboard toppers
lol it was just an emoticon, loosen up a little 8)
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^^^the Album is not out yet,so until then t's pure speculation. Fergie may not even make the final cut!
we will see.. but there isent even speculation weather or not decent rappers will apear.. it just seems to be gettin of on the wrong foot from the get go
Understandably;however it may just be a ruse!
A way of testing the waters!
As for speculation, we all can agree that Em, 50, Snoop, Bishop, will all be on it..
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^^^the Album is not out yet,so until then t's pure speculation. Fergie may not even make the final cut!
we will see.. but there isent even speculation weather or not decent rappers will apear.. it just seems to be gettin of on the wrong foot from the get go
Understandably;however it may just be a ruse!
A way of testing the waters!
As for speculation, we all can agree that Em, 50, Snoop, Bishop, will all be on it..
slim the mobster as well, WESTSIDE :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :raisetheroof:
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LOL U CANT COMPARE STUFF THAT ISNT OUT DETOX MIGHT COME OUT WACK U NEVER KNOW THIS ISNT THE NINETIES (EVEN THOUGH I WISH DRE WOULD STICK TO THAT)
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IF U ASK ME THERE'S NOTHING LIKE THE 80'S OR 90'S, THE NEW SCHOOL OF HIP HOP TODAY SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES (THE GAME , CROOKED I, T.I., COMMON, & A FEW OTHERS NOT INCLUDED) THE REST NEED TO TAKE NOTES AND PAY HOMAGE..IN OTHER WORDS FUCK A RINGTONE DEAL, MAKE SUM REAL MUSIK FOR THE LOVE OF IT...NOT A NEW DEAL......
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IF U ASK ME THERE'S NOTHING LIKE THE 80'S OR 90'S, THE NEW SCHOOL OF HIP HOP TODAY SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES (THE GAME , CROOKED I, T.I., COMMON, & A FEW OTHERS NOT INCLUDED) THE REST NEED TO TAKE NOTES AND PAY HOMAGE..IN OTHER WORDS FUCK A RINGTONE DEAL, MAKE SUM REAL MUSIK FOR THE LOVE OF IT...NOT A NEW DEAL......
EXACTLY THAT WHAT IM SAYIN. I CANT STAND THESE NEW WEST FOOLS DISSING THE ORIGINALS. U SEE PEOPLE LIKE SNOOP PULLING UP PEOPLE LIKE TERRACE CUZ HE IS DOPE. HOT DOLLAR DOESNT GET SUPPORT LIKE THAT SINCE HE IS WACK AND HIS MUSIK IS ANYTHING BUT WEST COAST, HE SHOULDNT COMPLAIN ON ANYBODY BUT HIMSELF. (IMMA STAY ON TOPIC BUT I HAD TO FOCUS A LITTLE ON HOT DOLLARS DISS)
OH AND HOOK SOME MUSIC THAT SOUNDS LIKE THE WEST COAST, ARTISTS THATS WHAT EVERYBODY NEED RIGHT NOW. I HOPE DRE DOESNT TURN TO MAKE SONGS ALL ABOUT HIS MONEY EITHER, A WHOLE SONG ABOUT ONE PERSONS INCOME IS THE MOST UNINTERESTING SHIT I COULD EVER WANT TO HEAR GOD DAMN THIS NEW POPULAR SHIT IS RIDICOLOUS I DONT KNOW HOW PEOPLE CAN LIKE IT.
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yea but il think u find the new dre detox will have to be mainstreem to pull in the sales it needs toi think he looked at the 50 sales and relized he has to really pull summin out the bag i tihnk he needs to change the name of the album.. or summin
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You're comparing the Greatest Hip Hop album of all time that was made in 2 weeks to the most over hyped hip hop album of all time that has taken 10 years to make.
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aeom > dr dre period
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Dre isn't even going the route he did on 2001. He let unknown West Coast artists be guests on that album (Time Bomb, Hittman, Knoc-Turn'Al, etc.) and legends as well (Snoop Dogg, King Tee, etc.). This time he going the "safe" way but the "safe" way don't mean you gonna move units. Nelly had Fergie on his single and his album moved shit units. Dre just need to be true to his roots and he'll sell. He putting all these wack popular artists like Lil Wayne and Fergie on it but those clowns don't have chemistry. He putting Busta Rhymes, Jay and Nas on it, who I am big fans of but please not on a Dre album, the shit don't fit. Eminem in '99 which was his prime was nice on 2001 but he been weak since 2004. 50 can do hooks that's it I hope.
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yea but il think u find the new dre detox will have to be mainstreem to pull in the sales it needs toi think he looked at the 50 sales and relized he has to really pull summin out the bag i tihnk he needs to change the name of the album.. or summin
all eyez on me had a couple of pop songs too.
so if mainstream appealing tracks in general bother you, you should just skip them :P
besides, there's no point in being so frustrated about an album that gets changed every week.
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yea but il think u find the new dre detox will have to be mainstreem to pull in the sales it needs toi think he looked at the 50 sales and relized he has to really pull summin out the bag i tihnk he needs to change the name of the album.. or summin
all eyez on me had a couple of pop songs too.
so if mainstream appealing tracks in general bother you, you should just skip them :P
besides, there's no point in being so frustrated about an album that gets changed every week.
i see your point.. and i class aeom a pop album anyway i mean jesus if your onw mother knows all aobut it its gotta be pop...... yall be seein what i mean when its out
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yea but il think u find the new dre detox will have to be mainstreem to pull in the sales it needs toi think he looked at the 50 sales and relized he has to really pull summin out the bag i tihnk he needs to change the name of the album.. or summin
all eyez on me had a couple of pop songs too.
so if mainstream appealing tracks in general bother you, you should just skip them :P
besides, there's no point in being so frustrated about an album that gets changed every week.
i see your point.. and i class aeom a pop album anyway i mean jesus if your onw mother knows all aobut it its gotta be pop...... yall be seein what i mean when its out
ok Dr.Dre
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yea but il think u find the new dre detox will have to be mainstreem to pull in the sales it needs toi think he looked at the 50 sales and relized he has to really pull summin out the bag i tihnk he needs to change the name of the album.. or summin
all eyez on me had a couple of pop songs too.
so if mainstream appealing tracks in general bother you, you should just skip them :P
besides, there's no point in being so frustrated about an album that gets changed every week.
i see your point.. and i class aeom a pop album anyway i mean jesus if your onw mother knows all aobut it its gotta be pop...... yall be seein what i mean when its out
ok Dr.Dre
i thaught you was dr dre.... i eman you gotta be close like a boyfriend or summin
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yea but il think u find the new dre detox will have to be mainstreem to pull in the sales it needs toi think he looked at the 50 sales and relized he has to really pull summin out the bag i tihnk he needs to change the name of the album.. or summin
all eyez on me had a couple of pop songs too.
so if mainstream appealing tracks in general bother you, you should just skip them :P
besides, there's no point in being so frustrated about an album that gets changed every week.
i see your point.. and i class aeom a pop album anyway i mean jesus if your onw mother knows all aobut it its gotta be pop...... yall be seein what i mean when its out
ok Dr.Dre
i thaught you was dr dre.... i eman you gotta be close like a boyfriend or summin
so the fact that you are ignorant, makes me Dre's friend? ??? :laugh: 8)
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yea but il think u find the new dre detox will have to be mainstreem to pull in the sales it needs toi think he looked at the 50 sales and relized he has to really pull summin out the bag i tihnk he needs to change the name of the album.. or summin
all eyez on me had a couple of pop songs too.
so if mainstream appealing tracks in general bother you, you should just skip them :P
besides, there's no point in being so frustrated about an album that gets changed every week.
i see your point.. and i class aeom a pop album anyway i mean jesus if your onw mother knows all aobut it its gotta be pop...... yall be seein what i mean when its out
ok Dr.Dre
i thaught you was dr dre.... i eman you gotta be close like a boyfriend or summin
so the fact that you are ignorant, makes me Dre's boyfriend? ??? :laugh: 8)
yea it does?
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you trust his ear...
his ear sucks... fuckin 50.. fuckin eminem...
Eminem is a fuckin' good rapper ("Lose Yourself"), but.. he's too commercial
"Lose Yourself" is a bad example for Eminem, that song is wack.