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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: 1980DRE on April 23, 2007, 07:48:07 PM
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i was thinking when dre was gonna release his 3rd album when i realized he already did... chronic 2001... don't remember hearing anything but negative reviews of that album "The aftermath"... so how bad was it?
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it wasnt bad...it just wasnt what people expected and def not a very good release
some dope tracks ..like the dre , rbx, mel man or the eastcoast westcoast killaz song
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When Dre left Death Row, he wanted to stop making hip hop because of the violence and focus on R&B, so half or more are just singing. But the tracks that aren't R&B are pretty good. Especially the King Tee song.
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This isn't really a Dre album in the sense that he only appeared on two tracks and out of the 16 songs on the album he only produced 5 of them. The rest of the songs are produced by the Aftermath in-house producers that he was fuckin with at the time. It's a pretty good album, but if you're expecting something on the level of the Chronic you'll probably be dissapointed.
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I thought it was decent at best, but not bad. Maybe by Dre standards.
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i agree the album was'nt his greatest but it did have some dope shit on it
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I'm in the minority, but I love this album. The live instrumentation was :o.
Like tha Doggfather, this album gets hated on way too much.
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This isn't really a Dre album in the sense that he only appeared on two tracks and out of the 16 songs on the album he only produced 5 of them. The rest of the songs are produced by the Aftermath in-house producers that he was fuckin with at the time. It's a pretty good album, but if you're expecting something on the level of the Chronic you'll probably be dissapointed.
co-sign.. this wasnt Dre's second album it was COMPILATION album to showcase the Aftermath artists..
it was "DR. DRE PRESENTS" not "DR. DRE" similar to "SNOOP DOGG PRESENTS DOGG HOUSE ALL STARS"
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I think I had this album but don't remember.. any chance someone can hook it up?
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I think I had this album but don't remember.. any chance someone can hook it up?
I got it. Check ya pm.
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all seven tracks dre produces on this record are DOPE
the track dre raps on that he didn't produce is TIGHTa
and the King T song is COOL as fuck.
the rest is LISTENABLE but not at all exceptional RandB.
the LAW-SHARIEF track is CORNY.
that is all
-T
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I think it is solid. You can tell in the early stages of the label, Dre had alot of good talent, but not that one superstar like a Snoop Dogg or Eminem that really separated themselves from others on the label.
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This isn't really a Dre album in the sense that he only appeared on two tracks and out of the 16 songs on the album he only produced 5 of them. The rest of the songs are produced by the Aftermath in-house producers that he was fuckin with at the time. It's a pretty good album, but if you're expecting something on the level of the Chronic you'll probably be dissapointed.
co-sign.. this wasnt Dre's second album it was COMPILATION album to showcase the Aftermath artists..
it was "DR. DRE PRESENTS" not "DR. DRE" similar to "SNOOP DOGG PRESENTS DOGG HOUSE ALL STARS"
I see.... never looked at it that way..... thanks!
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been there done that is one of my favorite dre tracks
some other sick tracks. nothing i wanna bump from cover to cover but i still think its dope.
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its got a few dope songs, but the rnb shit wasnt so good, RBX, Mel-Man, King T, Group Therapy and Been There Done That tracks are dope
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"East Coast Killaz/West Coast Killaz" was one of the most important songs/video's in hip-hop history. Although it never got the credit it deserved. If nothing else, the album was special because of that one song.
Also, there were other interesting tracks on the album, such as Dre's "Been There, Done That", the David Bowie cover "Fame" and Nationowl's track.
But ultimately the R&B tracks were weak, and Dre says some of the songs were just demo's that they put on the album because they were rushed for time.
I still listen to the album. Actually, I listen to it even more than his other albums.
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I think I had this album but don't remember.. any chance someone can hook it up?
I got it. Check ya pm.
Hook me up too homie!
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For me it has stood the teeth of time, i still listen to it til today, it is a really cool ass album, has a nice, smooth vibe to it. 8)
Maybe the R&B songs are weak for hiphop fans, but as R&B it is definately not weak, i prefer such R&B songs over that poppy bullshit nowadays like Ne-Yo, Mario Winans, Bobby Valentino etc.
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Wasn't there an interview with someone(can't remember the name) that Dre just got married and was in love or something and that affected the direction the album?
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It was decent.
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I rememebr back in like 1997 when this compilation came out, all my firends was just saying how "wack" the album.
10 years later, in retrospect, this album freakin BANGS!
There's not much Dre on it, but if you LOVE classic G Funk, this album is for you.
Some of the beats are hit and miss, but the beat for that Mel Man joint "Shittin On the World" is is off the chains, thought it was dope in 97, and that shit is still dope today.
The sad part is, that Aftermath compilation is way more entertaining than 95.3% of the bullshit that comes out now...
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I rememebr back in like 1997 when this compilation came out, all my firends was just saying how "wack" the album.
10 years later, in retrospect, this album freakin BANGS!
There's not much Dre on it, but if you LOVE classic G Funk, this album is for you.
Some of the beats are hit and miss, but the beat for that Mel Man joint "Shittin On the World" is is off the chains, thought it was dope in 97, and that shit is still dope today.
The sad part is, that Aftermath compilation is way more entertaining than 95.3% of the bullshit that comes out now...
Nice post.
btw, it came out Sept. 96
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The two RC tracks are fire - some of the best produced tracks I've ever heard, especially Sexy Dance.
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I rememebr back in like 1997 when this compilation came out, all my firends was just saying how "wack" the album.
10 years later, in retrospect, this album freakin BANGS!
There's not much Dre on it, but if you LOVE classic G Funk, this album is for you.
Some of the beats are hit and miss, but the beat for that Mel Man joint "Shittin On the World" is is off the chains, thought it was dope in 97, and that shit is still dope today.
The sad part is, that Aftermath compilation is way more entertaining than 95.3% of the bullshit that comes out now...
Nice post.
btw, it came out Sept. 96
That's right, sho, nuff, I forgot... I remember I was a sophmore in high school when this came out... the record got hated on so much back in day.... I dare anyone to say this isn't classic Dre production (the tracks he did produce).
BTW I would have to loved to hear Snoop over a lot of these beats too...
And you can really see the influence Mel Man had on him, particularly all releases after this one (Besides King Tee, the Firm and Slim Shady LP.)
Anybody notice how Dre gave Eminem a lot of throwaway Firm beats for his Slim Shady LP?
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Apart from 'Been there Done That' it was a rubbish compilation.
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For me it has stood the teeth of time, i still listen to it til today, it is a really cool ass album, has a nice, smooth vibe to it. 8)
Maybe the R&B songs are weak for hiphop fans, but as R&B it is definately not weak, i prefer such R&B songs over that poppy bullshit nowadays like Ne-Yo, Mario Winans, Bobby Valentino etc.
Couldn't have said it better 8)
Props man
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Anybody notice how Dre gave Eminem a lot of throwaway Firm beats for his Slim Shady LP?
Naw man.. I actually think those are fresh beats that Dre made for Em on the Slim Shady LP. I mean.. I can't imagine Nas and AZ rappin over the corky "My Name Is" beat or the "Giulty Conscience" beat. Even though "Role Model" beat sounds too hardcore to fit the lazy Firm style.
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For me it has stood the teeth of time, i still listen to it til today, it is a really cool ass album, has a nice, smooth vibe to it. 8)
Maybe the R&B songs are weak for hiphop fans, but as R&B it is definately not weak, i prefer such R&B songs over that poppy bullshit nowadays like Ne-Yo, Mario Winans, Bobby Valentino etc.
Couldn't have said it better 8)
Props man
Good point, yeah.. Dre's R&B I definitely prefer to that Ne-Yo, Mario Winans, and Bobby Valentino stuff that's hot today........
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When Dre left Death Row, he wanted to stop making hip hop because of the violence and focus on R&B, so half or more are just singing. But the tracks that aren't R&B are pretty good. Especially the King Tee song.
the rnb shit is weak.... rap tracks are dope tho
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i could see 'role model' being used for the firm, but i still think all dre's beats for SSLP were tailormade.
-T
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The dope tracks are:
King T - Str8 Gone
Dr. Dre - Been There, Done That
RBX - Blunt Time
Group Therapy - East Coast/West Coast Killaz
The rest is BULLSHIT
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I rememebr back in like 1997 when this compilation came out, all my firends was just saying how "wack" the album.
10 years later, in retrospect, this album freakin BANGS!
There's not much Dre on it, but if you LOVE classic G Funk, this album is for you.
Some of the beats are hit and miss, but the beat for that Mel Man joint "Shittin On the World" is is off the chains, thought it was dope in 97, and that shit is still dope today.
The sad part is, that Aftermath compilation is way more entertaining than 95.3% of the bullshit that comes out now...
It came out in 96. And G-Funk?! I thought the Dre sound in 96 was getting more dark and eerie. More like his "2001" sound.
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This isn't really a Dre album in the sense that he only appeared on two tracks and out of the 16 songs on the album he only produced 5 of them. The rest of the songs are produced by the Aftermath in-house producers that he was fuckin with at the time. It's a pretty good album, but if you're expecting something on the level of the Chronic you'll probably be dissapointed.
co-sign.. this wasnt Dre's second album it was COMPILATION album to showcase the Aftermath artists..
it was "DR. DRE PRESENTS" not "DR. DRE" similar to "SNOOP DOGG PRESENTS DOGG HOUSE ALL STARS"
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I always thought Dre's work on the Aftermath compilation was pretty good.
Loved the production on RC's "Sexy Dance" joint.
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I always thought Dre's work on the Aftermath compilation was pretty good.
Loved the production on RC's "Sexy Dance" joint.
Sexy Dance is one of my favorite Dre productions of all time. To me there are only 4 wack tracks on the album. The tracks Dre produced are fire, though not as good as the stuff Dre did the other songs on the album are decent. If you're a hip hop head only you're not gonna like all the r&b on the album, but to me the r&b stuff was good.
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Definitely an over-HATED album. I wouldn't say it was a good album, but there were some phenomenal tracks on it. IMO, it's worth copping just for the Dre tracks.
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The dope tracks are:
King T - Str8 Gone
Dr. Dre - Been There, Done That
RBX - Blunt Time
Group Therapy - East Coast/West Coast Killaz
The rest is BULLSHIT
You got to atleast put Nationowl on that list. His track was very creative, and metaphors/rhymes, concept, beat, was all on point.
LOL@the Hittman rumours that were going around the net in 2000 saying that he was Hittman. Their voices are similar though.
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Definitely an over-HATED album.
co signing this. I really enjoy these R&B tracks with "hard" beats and as mentioned before, this album brought us at least one all time classic song (east coast/west coast killas). the compilation is way underrated which I think partly is due to the fact that people mistake it for a dr. dre album cause they can#t seem to read properly ...
since the album is quite easy and cheap to get these days it's a good purchase for throwback music!
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I rememebr back in like 1997 when this compilation came out, all my firends was just saying how "wack" the album.
10 years later, in retrospect, this album freakin BANGS!
There's not much Dre on it, but if you LOVE classic G Funk, this album is for you.
Some of the beats are hit and miss, but the beat for that Mel Man joint "Shittin On the World" is is off the chains, thought it was dope in 97, and that shit is still dope today.
The sad part is, that Aftermath compilation is way more entertaining than 95.3% of the bullshit that comes out now...
It came out in 96. And G-Funk?! I thought the Dre sound in 96 was getting more dark and eerie. More like his "2001" sound.
Ofcourse this album is G funk, it's the last pure "G Funk" record Dre put out, can't you hear all the synths and whiney basslines on almost all the songs?
Sure it may be a bit "darker" than Doggystyle G funk or Chronic G Funk, But it's mos def G Funk Blunt Time is a perfect example of a asong being classic "Dr. Dre style" G Funk, with the synths and those pounding drums....
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'killas' is a dope song but I bump blunttime way more.
-T
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'killas' is a dope song but I bump blunttime way more.
-T
Classic in my book!
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That album gets no play in my book especially in that year we had to much heat coming out Pac was killin everything.
All of Dres albums are like Compilations arent they ???
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That album gets no play in my book especially in that year we had to much heat coming out Pac was killin everything.
All of Dres albums are like Compilations arent they ???
nah, dre has a hand in producing every track but one or two on his albums. on the AM he only produces 7 tracks
-T
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how is no one going to give "Fame" any love??? Dre dropped a sick ass beat on that one and the remake of the old classic is up to its standards. King T comes on and rips the verse, one of my fav songs on the cd. All the dre produced tracks are sick, i really liked that style he had during thiss time
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The two RC tracks are fire - some of the best produced tracks I've ever heard, especially Sexy Dance.
finally some real talk!!!!
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how is no one going to give "Fame" any love??? Dre dropped a sick ass beat on that one and the remake of the old classic is up to its standards. King T comes on and rips the verse, one of my fav songs on the cd. All the dre produced tracks are sick, i really liked that style he had during thiss time
King Tee did alright on that track, but you know that origionally Busta Rhymes was supposed to guest appear and I think it was going to be a single. I don't like Busta that much, but I would have liked to have seen it become a single. But that song is one of Dre's most under-rated.
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Okay, now we got a classic. I made a new tracklist, got rid of the wack cuts, and added a quick review of each song with rating out of 10.
1. 10- Group Therapy- "East Coast Killaz/ West Coast Killaz"- Most under-rated hip-hop song ever. Most important hip-hop song ever.
2. 7.5- Mel-Man- "Shittin On The World"- The beat is bangin! obviously he doesn't have that much skills on the mic, but he's making fun of himself anyway, so it works.
3. 7.5- RBX- "Blunt Time"- Another great beat, RBX flips it, makes it smooth, another innovative track.
4. 8.5- Dr. Dre- "Been There, Done That"- Dre takes a trip down memory lane, a little too materialistic, but still a memorable track detailing Dre's departure from gangsta rap.
5. 1.5- Kim Summerson- "Choices"- better than most R&B on radio today
6. 3- Hands On- "Got Me Open"- Beat is bangin, Dre drops a verse similar to No Diggity, could of possibly been a single
7. 7.5-King T- "Straight Gone"- The only gangsta cut on the album, a certified banger, no doubt
8. 2- Maurice Wilcher- "Please"- Again, not that great, but better than most R&B out on radio today
9. 6.5- RC- "Sexy Dance"- This track also could have been a single, this is easily the best R&B joint on the album
10. 3.5- Sharief- "L.A.W."- If nothing else, this song displays Dre's willingness to work with East Coast artists/styles
11. 9- National- "NOWL"- This is a really interesting track, a mood is sad, doomsday, brooding, melancholy, kind of predicts the fall of hip-hop, the rhymes/metaphors are creative, and it all comes together to make one of the most compelling tracks on the album. The beat is smooth like the other tracks Dre worked on, and the rappers voice sounds like Hitman but his lyrics have way more depth than any of Hitman's work.
12. 8- RC- "Fame"- David Bowie cover. Another track that could have been a single. The beat is sick, and King T comes tight on it. Could of had crossover alternative appeal as well.
^^ So if the album would have came out like that. 12 tracks deep. I think the critics couldn't hate on that. That's some visionary work, it's the album of Dre's I still listen to the most after all these years.
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I think I had this album but don't remember.. any chance someone can hook it up?
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i think it got such as backlash partly because dre had left deathrow and partly cause people were worried dre was turning rnb.
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i remember there was an interview with dr. dre on mtv (in his studio) in 1996. he was talking about this song and played a version of it. he also told that he called busta rhymes to be a part of "fame".
12. 8- RC- "Fame"- David Bowie cover. Another track that could have been a single. The beat is sick, and King T comes tight on it. Could of had crossover alternative appeal as well.
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i remember there was an interview with dr. dre on mtv (in his studio) in 1996. he was talking about this song and played a version of it. he also told that he called busta rhymes to be a part of "fame".
12. 8- RC- "Fame"- David Bowie cover. Another track that could have been a single. The beat is sick, and King T comes tight on it. Could of had crossover alternative appeal as well.
Yep, I remember that interview. He also said he was going to edit out the part that says, "Got to get the money, need the cash, hah, come on, got to get it". But then he left it. Which lead me to believe, maybe there were a lot of changes he was still going to make to the album, but that he was rushed.
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Okay, now we got a classic. I made a new tracklist, got rid of the wack cuts, and added a quick review of each song with rating out of 10.
1. 10- Group Therapy- "East Coast Killaz/ West Coast Killaz"- Most under-rated hip-hop song ever. Most important hip-hop song ever.
2. 7.5- Mel-Man- "Shittin On The World"- The beat is bangin! obviously he doesn't have that much skills on the mic, but he's making fun of himself anyway, so it works.
3. 7.5- RBX- "Blunt Time"- Another great beat, RBX flips it, makes it smooth, another innovative track.
4. 8.5- Dr. Dre- "Been There, Done That"- Dre takes a trip down memory lane, a little too materialistic, but still a memorable track detailing Dre's departure from gangsta rap.
5. 1.5- Kim Summerson- "Choices"- better than most R&B on radio today
6. 3- Hands On- "Got Me Open"- Beat is bangin, Dre drops a verse similar to No Diggity, could of possibly been a single
7. 7.5-King T- "Straight Gone"- The only gangsta cut on the album, a certified banger, no doubt
8. 2- Maurice Wilcher- "Please"- Again, not that great, but better than most R&B out on radio today
9. 6.5- RC- "Sexy Dance"- This track also could have been a single, this is easily the best R&B joint on the album
10. 3.5- Sharief- "L.A.W."- If nothing else, this song displays Dre's willingness to work with East Coast artists/styles
11. 9- National- "NOWL"- This is a really interesting track, a mood is sad, doomsday, brooding, melancholy, kind of predicts the fall of hip-hop, the rhymes/metaphors are creative, and it all comes together to make one of the most compelling tracks on the album. The beat is smooth like the other tracks Dre worked on, and the rappers voice sounds like Hitman but his lyrics have way more depth than any of Hitman's work.
12. 8- RC- "Fame"- David Bowie cover. Another track that could have been a single. The beat is sick, and King T comes tight on it. Could of had crossover alternative appeal as well.
^^ So if the album would have came out like that. 12 tracks deep. I think the critics couldn't hate on that. That's some visionary work, it's the album of Dre's I still listen to the most after all these years.
My thoughts? Dre tracks on Aftermath + Dre tracks from The Firm= what dre should have put on ONE disc under his and Nas' name in 96. Dre and Nas present...Mafioso Rap...woulda been sick.
actually I have a post called 'mafioso rap' from a while back where I talk about what dre was doing in my view at this time.
-T
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My thoughts? Dre tracks on Aftermath + Dre tracks from The Firm= what dre should have put on ONE disc under his and Nas' name in 96. Dre and Nas present...Mafioso Rap...woulda been sick.
actually I have a post called 'mafioso rap' from a while back where I talk about what dre was doing in my view at this time.
-T
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