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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Real American on July 04, 2006, 03:41:12 PM
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Someone needs to educate these gangbangers about the importance of diversity....
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-gangs4jul04,0,7027293.story?coll=la-home-headlines
Gang Accused of Conspiring to Kill Blacks
Federal prosecutors allege that members of the Avenues in L.A. plotted to commit violence against African Americans.
By John Spano, Times Staff Writer
July 4, 2006
Jose Cruz is a walking testament to what happens when a member turns against the Avenues street gang.
He has 30 scars from the stab wounds he suffered in one attempt on his life — on his arms, torso and legs. In another attack, he was beaten so severely that he has a visible dent in his skull, according to court papers, "the size and shape of a pistol butt."
ADVERTISEMENTHis street gang goes back five generations in Highland Park, which for Cruz is five miles and several lifetimes from the downtown courtroom where he is scheduled to testify as the star witness for the prosecution in the trial of a group of childhood friends.
Federal prosecutors, who launched their case last week, contend that the Avenues gang between 1994 and 2000 conspired to kill African Americans on their turf.
Men, women and children were harassed, terrorized, assaulted and slain as gang members sought to force black residents out of Latino neighborhoods, prosecutors said.
Authorities are using a federal hate-crime law based on the amendment to the U.S. Constitution that outlawed slavery, and another law created in the civil rights era, to go after four gang members. Barbara Bernstein, deputy chief of the criminal section of the civil rights divisions of the U.S. Department of Justice in Washington, is part of the prosecution team.
Attorneys for the defendants — Gilbert Saldana, Alejandro Martinez, Fernando Cazares and Porfirio Avila — have asserted that the federal government has no power to involve itself in a common street crime.
Defense attorney Reuven L. Cohen told jurors last week that one of the slayings cited in the charges — the 1999 shooting of Kenneth Wilson — was not a hate crime but "a simple gang killing committed out of boredom."
Cohen said the crimes sprang from the "sad" truth of "a tension that exists between African American gangs and Latino gangs."
The first of three former gang members, each in custody and hoping for leniency, testified Monday. Jesse Diaz, who described himself as a tagger from age 12, told jurors the Avenues decided to fight the "infestation" of blacks in Highland Park with a systematic terror campaign designed to run them out of the neighborhood.
Diaz, who has 10 more years to serve in prison for attempted murder, said the Avenues hated all rival gangs. But the antipathy for blacks was different, he said.
Highland Park became the scene of a game in which Diaz's group of Avenues actually competed with another "clique" to run the most blacks out of Highland Park, he testified.
Two other informants, one serving a long state prison term and the other a deported immigrant, will tell jurors that Saldana shot Wilson repeatedly in 1999, explaining that Saldana had just acquired a gun and "wanted to test it out."
One told the FBI in interviews that the gang got an order in 1998 from the Mexican Mafia prison gang to "kill any blacks … on sight."
Rick Ortiz, a Los Angeles police spokesman, called the Avenues a "bully" gang that uses its large numbers to intimidate.
"The Avenues have been around for a long time," Ortiz said. "They are the largest gang in the northeast area, with over 500 documented, active members."
Although gang members have for years been subject to a court order that limits their activities, they remain active, authorities said. Their racial antipathy is an outgrowth of prison culture, in which rival street gang members band together by race and then bring those attitudes back to the streets, Ortiz said.
"When you have gang members standing out on the street corners, they intimidate people," he said. "They may commit a minor offense, like vandalism, but people are so afraid of them they won't call in. It diminishes the quality of life in the community."
Heinrich Keifer, president of the Historic Highland Park Neighborhood Council, said racial violence by gang members is not currently a problem in the area.
"Our biggest problem is not so much gangs, although some members of the community are intimidated. It's more the taggers," Keifer said. "They create that feeling that the community is destroyed. The gangs aren't ruling the turf. They're not necessarily muscling people out. There was some of that in the past.
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Someone needs to educate these gangbangers about the importance of diversity....
:D
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Black and Latino gangsters have been going at it now for about 20-40 years now.
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both sides said it ain't a hate gang war, it's a drug gang war. It's all about money, and it's all about getting crazy little white kids like you to spend that money on drugs. It's a world you'll never understand.
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You wouldn't either you pink wearing faggot. Yea but it's all about drugs. Watch American Me or better yet come to the streets of Cali.
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You wouldn't either you pink wearing faggot. Yea but it's all about drugs. Watch American Me or better yet come to the streets of Cali.
Why you gotta try and kill me?
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lol, WTF are you talkin about?
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You wouldn't either you pink wearing faggot. Yea but it's all about drugs. Watch American Me or better yet come to the streets of Cali.
I.E. kid, born and raised, in the playgrounds is where I spend most of my days.
Kid, I've been on the streets longer than you've been born. That's why I moved outta San Bernardino, 'cause I am at an age where I wanna raise kids. You can have your streets. I've lost too much to them, I've moved on. And that's real talk. I ain't losing my kids the same way I've lost friends and family.
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Oh yeah... DIPSET BEYOTCH... WESTCOAST CHAPTER
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You wouldn't either you pink wearing faggot. Yea but it's all about drugs. Watch American Me or better yet come to the streets of Cali.
I.E. kid, born and raised, in the playgrounds is where I spend most of my days.
Kid, I've been on the streets longer than you've been born. That's why I moved outta San Bernardino, 'cause I am at an age where I wanna raise kids. You can have your streets. I've lost too much to them, I've moved on. And that's real talk. I ain't losing my kids the same way I've lost friends and family.
is that y u wear pink u fag
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You wouldn't either you pink wearing faggot. Yea but it's all about drugs. Watch American Me or better yet come to the streets of Cali.
I.E. kid, born and raised, in the playgrounds is where I spend most of my days.
Kid, I've been on the streets longer than you've been born. That's why I moved outta San Bernardino, 'cause I am at an age where I wanna raise kids. You can have your streets. I've lost too much to them, I've moved on. And that's real talk. I ain't losing my kids the same way I've lost friends and family.
is that y u wear pink u fag
AWW U GOT PINK AND PURPLE IN YO SIG U HELLA GAY DAWG!!! U MUST LOVE URSELF SOME COCK FOR HAVIN BOTH THOSE FRUITY ASS COLORS, U MAKE ME SICK
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and put a new ho in ur sig, swagger jacker
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is that y u wear pink u fag
Who iz you, dogg? First, you say the exact same shit as your mak daddy, Sparegeez, and it wasn't even clever or nuthin. THEN, you steal Nelly Furtado lyrics. THEN, you jacked the whole corny "Cam'pons" thing that Mauzip got on his sig. Now, you jackin' Bananas' girl.
I got more respect for ya boy because at least he's a leader, not a follower. You Jermaine Dupri ass nigga, stop stealin' everybody else's sound. Go spin some Nelly Furtado records in ya sista's room.
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who the fuck is banana?
u cant talk shit cuz your on dipsets sack. u got cam rons kids swimmin in yo eyes ery night prolly.
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You wouldn't either you pink wearing faggot. Yea but it's all about drugs. Watch American Me or better yet come to the streets of Cali.
I.E. kid, born and raised, in the playgrounds is where I spend most of my days.
Kid, I've been on the streets longer than you've been born. That's why I moved outta San Bernardino, 'cause I am at an age where I wanna raise kids. You can have your streets. I've lost too much to them, I've moved on. And that's real talk. I ain't losing my kids the same way I've lost friends and family.
That's some real shit.
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i've said it once and i'll say it again, white people don't hate blacks the most, because mexicans hate them alot more.
but as far as a race war, that's not what it's about on the streets. maybe in like one part of a couple of cities but for the most part it's about drugs/bad blood/ect. shit like that 'street business' plus you got to remember when you're locked up everyone is segragated so that spills out into the streets and animosities from that occur.
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i've said it once and i'll say it again, white people don't hate blacks the most, because mexicans hate them alot more.
but as far as a race war, that's not what it's about on the streets. maybe in like one part of a couple of cities but for the most part it's about drugs/bad blood/ect. shit like that 'street business' plus you got to remember when you're locked up everyone is segragated so that spills out into the streets and animosities from that occur.
why do mexicans have so much animosity for blacks
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i've said it once and i'll say it again, white people don't hate blacks the most, because mexicans hate them alot more.
but as far as a race war, that's not what it's about on the streets. maybe in like one part of a couple of cities but for the most part it's about drugs/bad blood/ect. shit like that 'street business' plus you got to remember when you're locked up everyone is segragated so that spills out into the streets and animosities from that occur.
why do mexicans have so much animosity for blacks
in the pen, all races battle each other, and the blacks and latinos are the strongest ones. whites are on the side, just being crazy, but blacks and latinos are the main two fighting each other over dominance, and so street shit spills over in jail. Once it spills into jail, it gets elevated, and then it becomes 10x worst on the streets.
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i've said it once and i'll say it again, white people don't hate blacks the most, because mexicans hate them alot more.
but as far as a race war, that's not what it's about on the streets. maybe in like one part of a couple of cities but for the most part it's about drugs/bad blood/ect. shit like that 'street business' plus you got to remember when you're locked up everyone is segragated so that spills out into the streets and animosities from that occur.
why do mexicans have so much animosity for blacks
first of all they stink, crack smoing no good swindlers, big butt havin, wide nosed, breathin all the mexicans air, they think they're the best dancers, no good tricksters....
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i've said it once and i'll say it again, white people don't hate blacks the most, because mexicans hate them alot more.
but as far as a race war, that's not what it's about on the streets. maybe in like one part of a couple of cities but for the most part it's about drugs/bad blood/ect. shit like that 'street business' plus you got to remember when you're locked up everyone is segragated so that spills out into the streets and animosities from that occur.
why do mexicans have so much animosity for blacks
first of all they stink, crack smoing no good swindlers, big butt havin, wide nosed, breathin all the mexicans air, they think they're the best dancers, no good tricksters....
uuhh okay
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Who iz you, dogg?
LMFAO
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in the pen, all races battle each other, and the blacks and latinos are the strongest ones. whites are on the side, just being crazy, but blacks and latinos are the main two fighting each other over dominance, and so street shit spills over in jail. Once it spills into jail, it gets elevated, and then it becomes 10x worst on the streets.
Sounds like they need some sensitivity training.