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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Hack Wilson - real on July 11, 2015, 12:12:33 PM
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Bomani Jone asked him about the comparisons and Action eventually says "he ain't rap like this no more"
Action, your last album flopped, you gotta shut up about the Ghostface shit even though you're better than him now.
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I don't see that as a diss, he wasn't lying lol
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bronson gonna need to borrow that ice pack from joe budden.
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bronson gonna need to borrow that ice pack from joe budden.
What's the story there?
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bronson gonna need to borrow that ice pack from joe budden.
What's the story there?
the joe budden shit ?
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bronson gonna need to borrow that ice pack from joe budden.
What's the story there?
Raekwon's goons punched Joe Budden in the eye for talking shit about Method Man back in like '09
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He should be learning any day now that Wu-Tang Clan ain't nothin to fuck with.
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But just like Budden saying 2009 Budden >>> 2009 Meth...2015 Action >>> 2015 Ghostface lol.
Niggas get so asshurt about Hip Hop legends.
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this is a different context though Bronson has collaborated with Ghost and other members of the Wu even when the comparisons were just popping up, he was just saying that Ghost doesn't rap like this in the limelight anymore but of course the media is gonna hype it up like he was dissing when that's not the case
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bottom line..u DO NOT build your whole style and persona off another man..then turn around and shoot slick subliminal out the side of ya neck slugs at that SAME man..thats some wicked ish to do..u sittin up in a room studying this man til u become a cheap imitation of him then gain the arrogance to think you've surpassed him so u get on tv and start taking cheap shots..then try to smooth it over real quick by actin like its no disrespect etc..it IS DISRESPECT..dont talk like that about the man u got your lifeline from..!!! cultrue vulture..
- K-Rino
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Honestly I liked dude up until this. Fuck him he's just like the rest of these new school biters....
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Honestly I liked dude up until this. Fuck him he's just like the rest of these new school biters....
If you liked him before then what does it really matter? I think it's lame to say some shit like that but if someone's talented and makes music you enjoy then why not leave it at that? I get not wanting to listen to someone if they admit to being a neo nazi or some shit but this is pretty minor.
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Action Bronson IS A FLASH IN THE PAN AND WILL BE FORGOTTEN IN A COUPLE YEARS IF THAT
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Honestly I liked dude up until this. Fuck him he's just like the rest of these new school biters....
If you liked him before then what does it really matter? I think it's lame to say some shit like that but if someone's talented and makes music you enjoy then why not leave it at that? I get not wanting to listen to someone if they admit to being a neo nazi or some shit but this is pretty minor.
I'm a man of respect. He uses Ghostface's style to get in the game then he throws shade and disrespects the father of his style that created his existance in the game. That is not very respectfull so I choose not to listen or support him in anyway. I live by the G-Code.
I'll be lame but here is my perception. " there is a guy in the hood that makes you laugh, he becomes a snitch but he's still a funny dude so just because he's funny I should hang around him? No he's a snitch and a buster, so I don't fuck with him " only lames support people that bite the hands that feed them....
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I don't see that as a diss, he wasn't lying lol
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Honestly I liked dude up until this. Fuck him he's just like the rest of these new school biters....
If you liked him before then what does it really matter? I think it's lame to say some shit like that but if someone's talented and makes music you enjoy then why not leave it at that? I get not wanting to listen to someone if they admit to being a neo nazi or some shit but this is pretty minor.
I'll be lame but here is my perception. " there is a guy in the hood that makes you laugh, he becomes a snitch but he's still a funny dude so just because he's funny I should hang around him? No he's a snitch and a buster, so I don't fuck with him " only lames support people that bite the hands that feed them....
You're comparing someone you actually know to music you listen to though. I can tell you've dug your heels in on this one so to each his own, I'm just saying if you enjoy someone's music I don't see why you should no longer just cause you don't agree with them on something.
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Honestly I liked dude up until this. Fuck him he's just like the rest of these new school biters....
If you liked him before then what does it really matter? I think it's lame to say some shit like that but if someone's talented and makes music you enjoy then why not leave it at that? I get not wanting to listen to someone if they admit to being a neo nazi or some shit but this is pretty minor.
I'm a man of respect. He uses Ghostface's style to get in the game then he throws shade and disrespects the father of his style that created his existance in the game. That is not very respectfull so I choose not to listen or support him in anyway. I live by the G-Code.
I'll be lame but here is my perception. " there is a guy in the hood that makes you laugh, he becomes a snitch but he's still a funny dude so just because he's funny I should hang around him? No he's a snitch and a buster, so I don't fuck with him " only lames support people that bite the hands that feed them....
Ghost already stated before that he didn't feel Bronson was biting his style or emulating him, it's all just in the voices... their flows/cadences and content are nothing alike
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He should be learning any day now that Wu-Tang Clan ain't nothin to fuck with.
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wu tang are a bunch of old 50 year olds who are all way passed their primes
action has nothin to worry about
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bottom line..u DO NOT build your whole style and persona off another man..then turn around and shoot slick subliminal out the side of ya neck slugs at that SAME man..thats some wicked ish to do..u sittin up in a room studying this man til u become a cheap imitation of him then gain the arrogance to think you've surpassed him so u get on tv and start taking cheap shots..then try to smooth it over real quick by actin like its no disrespect etc..it IS DISRESPECT..dont talk like that about the man u got your lifeline from..!!! cultrue vulture..
- K-Rino
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bronson gonna need to borrow that ice pack from joe budden.
What's the story there?
Raekwon's goons punched Joe Budden in the eye for talking shit about expressing the not so baseless opinion that he felt he was a better rapper than Method Man back in like '09
Of course you would prove him wrong by socking him in the eye. :D
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bottom line..u DO NOT build your whole style and persona off another man..then turn around and shoot slick subliminal out the side of ya neck slugs at that SAME man..thats some wicked ish to do..u sittin up in a room studying this man til u become a cheap imitation of him then gain the arrogance to think you've surpassed him so u get on tv and start taking cheap shots..then try to smooth it over real quick by actin like its no disrespect etc..it IS DISRESPECT..dont talk like that about the man u got your lifeline from..!!! cultrue vulture..
- K-Rino
Hey where did you ket that K-Rino quote from?
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ITS NOT REALLY A DISS, BUT IT'S DISRESPECTFUL EITHER WAY. U KNOW GHOST FEEL SOME TYPA WAY BOUT THAT.
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bottom line..u DO NOT build your whole style and persona off another man..then turn around and shoot slick subliminal out the side of ya neck slugs at that SAME man..thats some wicked ish to do..u sittin up in a room studying this man til u become a cheap imitation of him then gain the arrogance to think you've surpassed him so u get on tv and start taking cheap shots..then try to smooth it over real quick by actin like its no disrespect etc..it IS DISRESPECT..dont talk like that about the man u got your lifeline from..!!! cultrue vulture..
- K-Rino
Hey where did you ket that K-Rino quote from?
his Facebook
ITS NOT REALLY A DISS, BUT IT'S DISRESPECTFUL EITHER WAY. U KNOW GHOST FEEL SOME TYPA WAY BOUT THAT.
nope lol Ghost already dismissed it
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bottom line..u DO NOT build your whole style and persona off another man..then turn around and shoot slick subliminal out the side of ya neck slugs at that SAME man..thats some wicked ish to do..u sittin up in a room studying this man til u become a cheap imitation of him then gain the arrogance to think you've surpassed him so u get on tv and start taking cheap shots..then try to smooth it over real quick by actin like its no disrespect etc..it IS DISRESPECT..dont talk like that about the man u got your lifeline from..!!! cultrue vulture..
- K-Rino
Hey where did you ket that K-Rino quote from?
his Facebook
ITS NOT REALLY A DISS, BUT IT'S DISRESPECTFUL EITHER WAY. U KNOW GHOST FEEL SOME TYPA WAY BOUT THAT.
nope lol Ghost already dismissed it
YEA NO ONE GUNA COME OUT AND SAY "MAN, I CAUGHT FEELINGS OFFA THAT"....BUT BEST BELIEVE GHOST DID NOT LIKE BEIN SLIGHTED, AND THATS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. GHOST WAS SLIGHTED, WHETHER IT'S TRUE OR NOT.
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bottom line..u DO NOT build your whole style and persona off another man..then turn around and shoot slick subliminal out the side of ya neck slugs at that SAME man..thats some wicked ish to do..u sittin up in a room studying this man til u become a cheap imitation of him then gain the arrogance to think you've surpassed him so u get on tv and start taking cheap shots..then try to smooth it over real quick by actin like its no disrespect etc..it IS DISRESPECT..dont talk like that about the man u got your lifeline from..!!! cultrue vulture..
- K-Rino
Hey where did you ket that K-Rino quote from?
his Facebook
ITS NOT REALLY A DISS, BUT IT'S DISRESPECTFUL EITHER WAY. U KNOW GHOST FEEL SOME TYPA WAY BOUT THAT.
nope lol Ghost already dismissed it
YEA NO ONE GUNA COME OUT AND SAY "MAN, I CAUGHT FEELINGS OFFA THAT"....BUT BEST BELIEVE GHOST DID NOT LIKE BEIN SLIGHTED, AND THATS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. GHOST WAS SLIGHTED, WHETHER IT'S TRUE OR NOT.
not at all... he said what most are saying and it's that the media is blowing it up out of proportion, he doesn't care because he knows he's past his prime and he respects Action
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bottom line..u DO NOT build your whole style and persona off another man..then turn around and shoot slick subliminal out the side of ya neck slugs at that SAME man..thats some wicked ish to do..u sittin up in a room studying this man til u become a cheap imitation of him then gain the arrogance to think you've surpassed him so u get on tv and start taking cheap shots..then try to smooth it over real quick by actin like its no disrespect etc..it IS DISRESPECT..dont talk like that about the man u got your lifeline from..!!! cultrue vulture..
- K-Rino
Hey where did you ket that K-Rino quote from?
his Facebook
ITS NOT REALLY A DISS, BUT IT'S DISRESPECTFUL EITHER WAY. U KNOW GHOST FEEL SOME TYPA WAY BOUT THAT.
nope lol Ghost already dismissed it
YEA NO ONE GUNA COME OUT AND SAY "MAN, I CAUGHT FEELINGS OFFA THAT"....BUT BEST BELIEVE GHOST DID NOT LIKE BEIN SLIGHTED, AND THATS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. GHOST WAS SLIGHTED, WHETHER IT'S TRUE OR NOT.
not at all... he said what most are saying and it's that the media is blowing it up out of proportion, he doesn't care because he knows he's past his prime and he respects Action
believe what u want but thats a slight either way, and the way he said it too. not really showin the utmost respect to dude u got ur whole steez from. Ghostface played it cool, that's the professional way to go about it. Obviously he not guna trip out and make a deal out of it, but that don't mean it was a cool thing to do or say.
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bottom line..u DO NOT build your whole style and persona off another man..then turn around and shoot slick subliminal out the side of ya neck slugs at that SAME man..thats some wicked ish to do..u sittin up in a room studying this man til u become a cheap imitation of him then gain the arrogance to think you've surpassed him so u get on tv and start taking cheap shots..then try to smooth it over real quick by actin like its no disrespect etc..it IS DISRESPECT..dont talk like that about the man u got your lifeline from..!!! cultrue vulture..
- K-Rino
Hey where did you ket that K-Rino quote from?
his Facebook
ITS NOT REALLY A DISS, BUT IT'S DISRESPECTFUL EITHER WAY. U KNOW GHOST FEEL SOME TYPA WAY BOUT THAT.
nope lol Ghost already dismissed it
YEA NO ONE GUNA COME OUT AND SAY "MAN, I CAUGHT FEELINGS OFFA THAT"....BUT BEST BELIEVE GHOST DID NOT LIKE BEIN SLIGHTED, AND THATS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. GHOST WAS SLIGHTED, WHETHER IT'S TRUE OR NOT.
not at all... he said what most are saying and it's that the media is blowing it up out of proportion, he doesn't care because he knows he's past his prime and he respects Action
believe what u want but thats a slight either way, and the way he said it too. not really showin the utmost respect to dude u got ur whole steez from. Ghostface played it cool, that's the professional way to go about it. Obviously he not guna trip out and make a deal out of it, but that don't mean it was a cool thing to do or say.
it goes both ways though, rap is competitive... Action's not supposed to say "Ghost is still better than me in 2015" especially if he truly doesn't think he is lol it's not like he flat out called him washed up or garbage or tried to take anything away from him
both these dudes are somewhere laughing about all of this, it's promo for Ghostface too since he's about to drop an album
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bottom line..u DO NOT build your whole style and persona off another man..then turn around and shoot slick subliminal out the side of ya neck slugs at that SAME man..thats some wicked ish to do..u sittin up in a room studying this man til u become a cheap imitation of him then gain the arrogance to think you've surpassed him so u get on tv and start taking cheap shots..then try to smooth it over real quick by actin like its no disrespect etc..it IS DISRESPECT..dont talk like that about the man u got your lifeline from..!!! cultrue vulture..
- K-Rino
Hey where did you ket that K-Rino quote from?
his Facebook
ITS NOT REALLY A DISS, BUT IT'S DISRESPECTFUL EITHER WAY. U KNOW GHOST FEEL SOME TYPA WAY BOUT THAT.
nope lol Ghost already dismissed it
YEA NO ONE GUNA COME OUT AND SAY "MAN, I CAUGHT FEELINGS OFFA THAT"....BUT BEST BELIEVE GHOST DID NOT LIKE BEIN SLIGHTED, AND THATS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. GHOST WAS SLIGHTED, WHETHER IT'S TRUE OR NOT.
not at all... he said what most are saying and it's that the media is blowing it up out of proportion, he doesn't care because he knows he's past his prime and he respects Action
believe what u want but thats a slight either way, and the way he said it too. not really showin the utmost respect to dude u got ur whole steez from. Ghostface played it cool, that's the professional way to go about it. Obviously he not guna trip out and make a deal out of it, but that don't mean it was a cool thing to do or say.
it goes both ways though, rap is competitive... Action's not supposed to say "Ghost is still better than me in 2015" especially if he truly doesn't think he is lol it's not like he flat out called him washed up or garbage or tried to take anything away from him
both these dudes are somewhere laughing about all of this, it's promo for Ghostface too since he's about to drop an album
He ain't gotta say shit but the way he said it makes all the difference
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now Ghost bi-polar ass switched up lol he's one to talk about deleting tweets
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z93IaKPY_Wc
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now Ghost bi-polar ass switched up lol he's one to talk about deleting tweets
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z93IaKPY_Wc
What I tell u?
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now Ghost bi-polar ass switched up lol he's one to talk about deleting tweets
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z93IaKPY_Wc
What I tell u?
both parties had tweets prior to this and Ghost said it was all love... now that his album isn't getting any buzz he switched up
you'll see them both on a song together again by 2016
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now Ghost bi-polar ass switched up lol he's one to talk about deleting tweets
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z93IaKPY_Wc
What I tell u?
both parties had tweets prior to this and Ghost said it was all love... now that his album isn't getting any buzz he switched up
you'll see them both on a song together again by 2016
That's cuz Bronson deleted the tweets apologizing .. That shit was obvious disrespect. Now if it's from promo or not is a whole nother discussion, but if u take it for what it is, that Bronson comment is way outa line.
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what took old man Ghost so long to respond??
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what took old man Ghost so long to respond??
album came out after Bronson's comments that nobody talked about so he flip-flopped and decided to fabricate a 'beef'
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what took old man Ghost so long to respond??
album came out after Bronson's comments that nobody talked about so he flip-flopped and decided to fabricate a 'beef'
Yeah, pretty much.
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when it comes to Action and Ghostface i have a few thoughts
1-action sounds like 90's Ghostface...ghost in 2015 sounds a lot diff than action in 2015
2-while i know Ghost is the OG and historically better in 2015 i prefer the music Action drops....they both still make good music but Action is hungrier and his funny ass typical NYC guy personality is what attracted me to his music, not the fact he sounds like Ghost
3-Wu tang let Drake slide for that wu tang forever song but diss action over a sideways comment that everyone else laughed at? they really think people don't know Action is viewed as a ghost clone by 90% of rap fans??? lol go after Drake if you want the ratings....just like you needed to with Joe Budden 6 years ago
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when it comes to Action and Ghostface i have a few thoughts
1-action sounds like 90's Ghostface...ghost in 2015 sounds a lot diff than action in 2015
2-while i know Ghost is the OG and historically better in 2015 i prefer the music Action drops....they both still make good music but Action is hungrier and his funny ass typical NYC guy personality is what attracted me to his music, not the fact he sounds like Ghost
3-Wu tang let Drake slide for that wu tang forever song but diss action over a sideways comment that everyone else laughed at? they really think people don't know Action is viewed as a ghost clone by 90% of rap fans??? lol go after Drake if you want the ratings....just like you needed to with Joe Budden 6 years ago
money
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Bronsonlino Vs Starks discussion -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WDuwCnqelQ
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Action Bronson Threatened And Dissed By Wu-Tang's Ghostface Killah: 'I'll Gut You Like A Pig'
Jul, 20, 2015, 03:10 PM
Action Bronson was on the receiving end of some very harsh words from Wu-Tang Clan's Ghostface Killah.
G-Check: The art of keeping someone in line by proving your own dominance in any aspect of life. To put someone in place after trying to get out on you.
The above definition is for the slang term "g-check," courtesy of UrbanDictionary.com, and it's exactly what Ghostface Killah did to Action Bronson today (July 20).
The Wu-Tang rapper dissed Bronson by way of YouTube, after the "Baby Blue" spitter suggested that Ghost lost some of his rapping skills.
Here's how Ghost responded:
"You got this little fake a-- n---- Action Bronson running around sounding like me," he said, while an old-school soul song played in the background.
"But I want to tell this fat f--- something. I gave you a grace period, n----a. I was supposed to destroy you a long time ago. Who gives you the right to even mention my name out your motherf----- mouth? Bro, you done made a mistake. You done f---ed up," added Mr. Tony Starks.
He also said that Bronson could never come close to him when it comes to rapping or writing solid verses.
"You can never f--- with my pen, my n----a. My sword, my blade, whatever you want to call it," said Ghost.
"I'm too nasty for you. This is why the f--- you look up to me and sound like me. When I told yall n----- back on The "Cuban Linx" s---, I don't want nobody sounding like me on no album," he added.
Ghost also threatened to harm the burly Queens N.Y. rapper.
"Don't let me hang you from a rope and gut you like a f------ pig, n----a and leave you out to dry. 'Cause it'll get done," he said.
So what did Bronson say about Ghost to deserve this diss in the first place?
After an ESPN "SportsNation" host said that Action sounded like the Wu legend, Bronson subtlety dissed Ghost.
"He's not rapping like this no more," he said.
After hearing Ghostface's response, the "Baby Blue" MC quickly took to Twitter in a desperate attempt to remedy things. "When you're wrong, you're wrong and I was wrong," wrote Bronson. "I apologized for the comments. I'll always be a stand-up human. Much love."
Where things go from here between the rappers remains to be seen, but there's no doubt that Bronson definitely got g-checked by one of the most respected rappers, from one of the most respected groups in hip-hop. Why he dissed Ghostface to begin with remains a complete mystery.
You can see what else the Wu-Tang rapper had to say by clicking here.
When ur wrong ur wrong and I was wrong. I apologized for the comments. I'll always be a stand up human. Much love.
— MR. WONDERFUL (@ActionBronson) July 20, 2015
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Say what u will, but those who think his comments wasn't a diss is delusional
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Say what u will, but those who think his comments wasn't a diss is delusional
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it doesn't even matter....Oldface is 50 years old posting up videos online showing the maturity of a 13 year old :-\
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Say what u will, but those who think his comments wasn't a diss is delusional
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it doesn't even matter....Oldface is 50 years old posting up videos online showing the maturity of a 13 year old :-\
he pretty much shitted on bronson....and bronson apologized too. got g-checked and theres no way around it.
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Say what u will, but those who think his comments wasn't a diss is delusional
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it doesn't even matter....Oldface is 50 years old posting up videos online showing the maturity of a 13 year old :-\
he pretty much shitted on bronson....and bronson apologized too. got g-checked and theres no way around it.
yeah it's def a bad look for Bronson
but old face ain't impressing me with that video....i did lol @ a few lines he said ("stephen a skip" and the line about burning his beard off)
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Say what u will, but those who think his comments wasn't a diss is delusional
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it doesn't even matter....Oldface is 50 years old posting up videos online showing the maturity of a 13 year old :-\
he pretty much shitted on bronson....and bronson apologized too. got g-checked and theres no way around it.
nah, Ghost previously said it was all peace and love but went back on his word once there wasn't any buzz about his album dropping after the smoke cleared the first time... all a fugazi act for the cameras and headlines, but it did result in a classic internet meme-esque video because of how he conducted himself
somebody out there had to have saved the tweets before they got taken down and not just Bronson's
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this article sums it all up perfectly and trumps all posts in this entire thread including mine:
http://www.teambackpack.net/action-bronson-was-right-to-say-hes-the-best/
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Ghost summed it up perfectly - "Your fans are my fans". We are, originally, and though we listen to Bronson more recently since Tony aint doing it like he did back in the day there's no way we're gonna let disrespect slide. I love both rappers, but if I feel like one of my all time idols is being shit on I'm not gonna be happy.
Glad Action apologized though. Ghost might not have accepted it but as a fan I think he did the right thing.
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Action Bronson Should Think He’s The Best
July 21, 2015
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WRITTEN BY CASSIDY KAKIN
In case you’ve been living under a rock, the latest “feud” to hit hip-hop beefdom is probably one of the longest overdue and most predictable. It’s BamBam vs. Ghostdini in the ultimate quest for New York, a positively brutal battle royale between one of the toughest dudes to ever break out of any burrough and the dope young buck with the meteoric rise; a showdown over who bit who and who said what, with the very status of the word “legend” on the line. Or, if I’m being perfectly honest and ignoring the media hype train: it’s a pretty boring, “pseudo-feud” where one combatant has already apologized and the other is at serious risk of looking like a crotchety old man. To be frank, the whole Action Bronson vs. Ghost Face Killah media hell storm is tabloid talk at best. But that doesn’t mean it didn’t get me thinking. And what I think, though it’s probably not popular and may put my life in jeopardy if I ever make it to another GFK show, is that Bronson was right to say what he said.
ICYMI: Here’s the original video of Action’s first so called “diss”
Let’s be clear: I DON’T think Action Bronson is a “better” MC than Ghost Face. I’ll admit that most days, I’d prefer 2015 Bam Bam over 2015 GFK, but even that opinion isn’t one I’d defend with much conviction: Bronsolino takes Ghost on flow and makes me laugh more, BadBadNotGood era Ghostface still shits on Bronson lyrically and makes me rewind more. Both MCs are dope, both put on for the City hard, and both have earned what respect they have garnered in the rap game. Most days I don’t even think to compare the two, beyond the too often noted similarities in cadence. But that’s because I’m not a rapper.
When you are a rapper like Action Bronson, you NEED to compare, and you NEED to think you are the best. Yes, hip-hop is a community; there’s room at the table for all of us to dine. But the Art of Rap? The foundation of the New York aesthetic that Bronsolino and Ghost Face both exude and brandish in their rhymes and image and being? The very reason why we even have conversations like this in the first place, and everyone is obsessed with “G.O.A.T.” lists? That’s competition. Even as hip-hop evolves into a global movement for change, there continues to be and always WILL be an element of competition and one-upmanship in this art form.
Ghost Face has been calling himself the Champ for years now. That’s just NYC.
That’s why Action Bronson was right to say he is rapping better than Ghost Face Killah, and why the next dude to blow up from NYC will probably say he is nicer than Bronson: if Bronson didn’t believe wholeheartedly that he was the best one doing it, then why do it at all? That’s the logic of the traditional New York Hip-Hop aesthetic. And as a rapper from New York, Bronson had BETTER think he’s the best damn thing to hit the mic in a minute. Otherwise he sure as hell couldn’t do New York hip-hop as well as he does, and we wouldn’t be having this discussion in the first place.
That’s why Action Bronson was right to say he is rapping better than Ghost Face Killah, and why there’s nothing wrong with what he said: Bronson SHOULD believe he is currently raping at a better level than Ghost. And again, I wouldn’t even argue all the time that Bam Bam is the better MC. That’s irrelevant. Bronson should think he is; should know he is, and believe he is, and write like he is the best. That’s the foundation of the traditional New York Hip-hop we know and love, and it’s what makes Bronsalino and Ghost Face both so dope at what they do. It’s the kind of mentality that helped Ghost Face and his Wu-Tang crew dominate their niche in their day. And it’s the same mentality that helped Bronson come up so fast.
Ghost Face “responded” with an odd rant. How about a new diss track, Ghost?
The details of this beef are already starting to annoy me, and it’s barely a week old. Action spoke from the heart, and never claimed he was better than GFK, just nicer now: a very humble boast for a rapper of Bronson’s hip-hop heritage. Then, Ghost Face put out a hilarious and terrifying “diss” video that didn’t do anything to prove Bronson wrong, and came off as more odd and desperate than deadly in my opinion. Then, Bronsons apologized. Now, apparently, Ghost isn’t accepting his apology. End of story, probably. This isn’t Nas and Jay, this is a very interesting or significant feud, and probably won’t enter the hip-hop history books.
Or, it could. Ghost could drop something “Ether” level still, and prove he still has the blade handy with a track that convinces us he is still the best shit from his neighborhood. Action Bronson could release a sophomore album that forces us to consider his more seriously name next to the New York greats he emulates. Best case scenario, this silly little “beef” pushes both artists to create more and create better. More likely, it’ll be a blip on both rappers’ careers and otherwise irrelevant in the larger scope of hip-hop history.
Taking all of that into consideration: Action Bronson was right to say what he said. It doesn’t matter if Mr. Wonderful is rapping at a higher level right now than Ghost Face: it matters that he thinks he is. You can talk about reverence for the greats as much as you like, and point to Ghost’s catalogue in his defense. Or you can point out that Bronsons never said he was BETTER than Ghost Face, just BETTER NOW, which is a pretty big distinction. We, as fans, can debate all of these things as much as we like. But as a rapper from NYC Bronson better not be debating it himself: he better be damn certain that he is the nicest, or he’ll never prove it to us.
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Say what u will, but those who think his comments wasn't a diss is delusional
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it doesn't even matter....Oldface is 50 years old posting up videos online showing the maturity of a 13 year old :-\
he pretty much shitted on bronson....and bronson apologized too. got g-checked and theres no way around it.
nah, Ghost previously said it was all peace and love but went back on his word once there wasn't any buzz about his album dropping after the smoke cleared the first time... all a fugazi act for the cameras and headlines, but it did result in a classic internet meme-esque video because of how he conducted himself
somebody out there had to have saved the tweets before they got taken down and not just Bronson's
i guess u didnt watch the video....ghost said it was all peace and love because he called up bronson, and bronson tweeted out an apology....then bronson deleted the tweets, and thats when ghost made this video.
i dont care what its for, bronson got checked....and thats a fellow jew sayin this, so take it to the bank.
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bronson is a jew?
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bronson is a jew?
yes remember we clowned elano for dickriding action bronson n hating on jews
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Some people trying to diss Ghostface KillaH ? After ALL THIS?
People don't respect legends.....
A Bitch Move by Action Bronson
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Say what u will, but those who think his comments wasn't a diss is delusional
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it doesn't even matter....Oldface is 50 years old posting up videos online showing the maturity of a 13 year old :-\
he pretty much shitted on bronson....and bronson apologized too. got g-checked and theres no way around it.
nah, Ghost previously said it was all peace and love but went back on his word once there wasn't any buzz about his album dropping after the smoke cleared the first time... all a fugazi act for the cameras and headlines, but it did result in a classic internet meme-esque video because of how he conducted himself
somebody out there had to have saved the tweets before they got taken down and not just Bronson's
i guess u didnt watch the video....ghost said it was all peace and love because he called up bronson, and bronson tweeted out an apology....then bronson deleted the tweets, and thats when ghost made this video.
i dont care what its for, bronson got checked....and thats a fellow jew sayin this, so take it to the bank.
I'm the one who posted it, why wouldn't I have watched it? lol Ghostface is looking petty regardless of who deleted what tweet first, the fact remains that Ghost dissed him for doing that and he pulled the very same move himself and he's making himself look like an ass now
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Say what u will, but those who think his comments wasn't a diss is delusional
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it doesn't even matter....Oldface is 50 years old posting up videos online showing the maturity of a 13 year old :-\
he pretty much shitted on bronson....and bronson apologized too. got g-checked and theres no way around it.
nah, Ghost previously said it was all peace and love but went back on his word once there wasn't any buzz about his album dropping after the smoke cleared the first time... all a fugazi act for the cameras and headlines, but it did result in a classic internet meme-esque video because of how he conducted himself
somebody out there had to have saved the tweets before they got taken down and not just Bronson's
i guess u didnt watch the video....ghost said it was all peace and love because he called up bronson, and bronson tweeted out an apology....then bronson deleted the tweets, and thats when ghost made this video.
i dont care what its for, bronson got checked....and thats a fellow jew sayin this, so take it to the bank.
I'm the one who posted it, why wouldn't I have watched it? lol Ghostface is looking petty regardless of who deleted what tweet first, the fact remains that Ghost dissed him for doing that and he pulled the very same move himself and he's making himself look like an ass now
bro wtf are u talkin about....u dont always gota be a contrarian. bronson took a major L here and ur pretty much the only one not to acknowledge that.
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Say what u will, but those who think his comments wasn't a diss is delusional
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it doesn't even matter....Oldface is 50 years old posting up videos online showing the maturity of a 13 year old :-\
he pretty much shitted on bronson....and bronson apologized too. got g-checked and theres no way around it.
nah, Ghost previously said it was all peace and love but went back on his word once there wasn't any buzz about his album dropping after the smoke cleared the first time... all a fugazi act for the cameras and headlines, but it did result in a classic internet meme-esque video because of how he conducted himself
somebody out there had to have saved the tweets before they got taken down and not just Bronson's
i guess u didnt watch the video....ghost said it was all peace and love because he called up bronson, and bronson tweeted out an apology....then bronson deleted the tweets, and thats when ghost made this video.
i dont care what its for, bronson got checked....and thats a fellow jew sayin this, so take it to the bank.
I'm the one who posted it, why wouldn't I have watched it? lol Ghostface is looking petty regardless of who deleted what tweet first, the fact remains that Ghost dissed him for doing that and he pulled the very same move himself and he's making himself look like an ass now
bro wtf are u talkin about....u dont always gota be a contrarian. bronson took a major L here and ur pretty much the only one not to acknowledge that.
he took an L for apologizing? and Ghost didn't by acting like an asshole and a hypocrite over a tweet? lol
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Say what u will, but those who think his comments wasn't a diss is delusional
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it doesn't even matter....Oldface is 50 years old posting up videos online showing the maturity of a 13 year old :-\
he pretty much shitted on bronson....and bronson apologized too. got g-checked and theres no way around it.
nah, Ghost previously said it was all peace and love but went back on his word once there wasn't any buzz about his album dropping after the smoke cleared the first time... all a fugazi act for the cameras and headlines, but it did result in a classic internet meme-esque video because of how he conducted himself
somebody out there had to have saved the tweets before they got taken down and not just Bronson's
i guess u didnt watch the video....ghost said it was all peace and love because he called up bronson, and bronson tweeted out an apology....then bronson deleted the tweets, and thats when ghost made this video.
i dont care what its for, bronson got checked....and thats a fellow jew sayin this, so take it to the bank.
I'm the one who posted it, why wouldn't I have watched it? lol Ghostface is looking petty regardless of who deleted what tweet first, the fact remains that Ghost dissed him for doing that and he pulled the very same move himself and he's making himself look like an ass now
bro wtf are u talkin about....u dont always gota be a contrarian. bronson took a major L here and ur pretty much the only one not to acknowledge that.
he took an L for apologizing? and Ghost didn't by acting like an asshole and a hypocrite over a tweet? lol
he took an L the moment ghostface dropped this
https://www.youtube.com/v/Nx3xcDmJ9dE
he took an L the moment he dropped his first rap soundin exactly like ghostface
he took an L the moment he had the nerve to disrespect the legend he took his entire style from, even when said legend kept it cool when he coulda done otherwise
he took an L the moment he apologized and then deleted the tweets
he took an ETHER the moment ghostface dropped the video checkin him
bronson did the right thing by apologizing, but he was still in the wrong for his actions, and thats the reason he had to apologize to begin with.....it's quite simple, bruh.
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if that's the case, Ghostface took the L the moment this dropped
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnWTcpBk5xI
but he doesn't want dudes sounding like him though :P
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if that's the case, Ghostface took the L the moment this dropped
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnWTcpBk5xI
but he doesn't want dudes sounding like him though :P
like i said, ghostface gave him a pass. maybe bronson naturally sounds like him, who knows?.....doesnt mean bronson all of a sudden has the right to go on national tv and speak down on the legend. it's outta pocket, and theres no way around it. ghostface woulda had to be a buster to let that slide, and thats what i was sayin from the get, when u was on some "ghostface is cool wit that" nonsense.
imagine some1 took ur whole style and then had the nerve to talk u down when u aint never came at him sideways over it, even when u coulda....it's the ultimate disrespect. i duno how u dont see it..pretty much every1 else does.
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if that's the case, Ghostface took the L the moment this dropped
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnWTcpBk5xI
but he doesn't want dudes sounding like him though :P
like i said, ghostface gave him a pass. maybe bronson naturally sounds like him, who knows?.....doesnt mean bronson all of a sudden has the right to go on national tv and speak down on the legend. it's outta pocket, and theres no way around it. ghostface woulda had to be a buster to let that slide, and thats what i was sayin from the get, when u was on some "ghostface is cool wit that" nonsense.
imagine some1 took ur whole style and then had the nerve to talk u down when u aint never came at him sideways over it, even when u coulda....it's the ultimate disrespect. i duno how u dont see it..pretty much every1 else does.
Ghost didn't take it as disrespect until social media ran with that but didn't give his new album the same attention lol why you think it took him so long to finally respond? he needs something to capitalize and stay relevant
if you ever truly listened to Bronson then you would know it's only the vocal tones that are similar, nothing about their flow/delivery/cadence and content is the same at all so to say that Bronson 'blew up' off emulating or biting Ghost is a stretch, and as said before rap is a competitive sport if Ghost wants to prove anything in 2015 it's simple: DROP BETTER MUSIC
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if that's the case, Ghostface took the L the moment this dropped
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnWTcpBk5xI
but he doesn't want dudes sounding like him though :P
like i said, ghostface gave him a pass. maybe bronson naturally sounds like him, who knows?.....doesnt mean bronson all of a sudden has the right to go on national tv and speak down on the legend. it's outta pocket, and theres no way around it. ghostface woulda had to be a buster to let that slide, and thats what i was sayin from the get, when u was on some "ghostface is cool wit that" nonsense.
imagine some1 took ur whole style and then had the nerve to talk u down when u aint never came at him sideways over it, even when u coulda....it's the ultimate disrespect. i duno how u dont see it..pretty much every1 else does.
Ghost didn't take it as disrespect until social media ran with that but didn't give his new album the same attention lol why you think it took him so long to finally respond? he needs something to capitalize and stay relevant
if you ever truly listened to Bronson then you would know it's only the vocal tones that are similar, nothing about their flow/delivery/cadence and content is the same at all so to say that Bronson 'blew up' off emulating or biting Ghost is a stretch, and as said before rap is a competitive sport if Ghost wants to prove anything in 2015 it's simple: DROP BETTER MUSIC
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bruh, u goin in circles, that shit was blatant disrespect, and ghost took it as disrespect off top, which is why he called bronson the moment he heard the comments......anyone who doesnt see it as disrespect is either deaf or dumb. now whether or not it's a promotional tactic is besides the point, because it was out of pocket either way.
btw ghostface drops good music consistently...from what i hear, bronson's debut didnt really meet expectations, so it aint like he killin the game right now. he's got a ways to go before he gets anywhere close to ghostface.
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The reason why Hip Hop is soft.
Action Bronson: "Ghost ain't rappin' like this no more. 8)"
Ghostface: *makes video dissing him, calling him fat, instead of a diss record*
Nigga is scared to look stupid in the booth, just like Method Man years ago.
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if that's the case, Ghostface took the L the moment this dropped
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnWTcpBk5xI
but he doesn't want dudes sounding like him though :P
like i said, ghostface gave him a pass. maybe bronson naturally sounds like him, who knows?.....doesnt mean bronson all of a sudden has the right to go on national tv and speak down on the legend. it's outta pocket, and theres no way around it. ghostface woulda had to be a buster to let that slide, and thats what i was sayin from the get, when u was on some "ghostface is cool wit that" nonsense.
imagine some1 took ur whole style and then had the nerve to talk u down when u aint never came at him sideways over it, even when u coulda....it's the ultimate disrespect. i duno how u dont see it..pretty much every1 else does.
Ghost didn't take it as disrespect until social media ran with that but didn't give his new album the same attention lol why you think it took him so long to finally respond? he needs something to capitalize and stay relevant
if you ever truly listened to Bronson then you would know it's only the vocal tones that are similar, nothing about their flow/delivery/cadence and content is the same at all so to say that Bronson 'blew up' off emulating or biting Ghost is a stretch, and as said before rap is a competitive sport if Ghost wants to prove anything in 2015 it's simple: DROP BETTER MUSIC
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bruh, u goin in circles, that shit was blatant disrespect, and ghost took it as disrespect off top, which is why he called bronson the moment he heard the comments......anyone who doesnt see it as disrespect is either deaf or dumb. now whether or not it's a promotional tactic is besides the point, because it was out of pocket either way.
btw ghostface drops good music consistently...from what i hear, bronson's debut didnt really meet expectations, so it aint like he killin the game right now. he's got a ways to go before he gets anywhere close to ghostface.
Sour Soul had recycled rhymes but had a cool vibe, I didn't see anything special about 12 Reasons To Die
he hasn't had a remarkable solo since Fishcale which was 9 years ago
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i don't even get the comparisons... bronson nowadays doesn't sound anything like ghost these days. maybe like 4 years ago...
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Ghostface Killah's ruckus with Action Bronson is a classic Wu-Tang moment
The pair clashed after Bronson suggested Ghostface might not be the force he once was, but his diss track via video response shows Tony Starks has still got it
Best of enemies: Ghostface Killah and Action Bronson.
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Wednesday 22 July 2015 17.10 BST
Action Bronson is a doughy Queens rapper in his early 30s who used to be a chef. He’s one of the most popular underground rappers working, known for his oft-hilarious, ever-whimsical wordplay. While his lyrical tropes are unique (fine foods, unflappable characters, gaudy furnishings), his flow is not. Almost everyone who hears him is immediately reminded of Ghostface Killah, the mid-40s Wu-Tang swordsmith who is one of the most acclaimed rappers in the genre’s history.
Since Bronson’s ascent at the beginning of the decade, the pair have managed to coexist peacefully. When asked about their similarities, Bronson usually shrugged off comparisons but paid homage, and Ghostface was more inclined to feel flattered than ripped off. But this week their relationship went south, following Bronson’s appearance on the ESPN show SportsNation. When asked about Ghostface, Bronson went off script: “He’s not rapping like this no more,” he said, adding that Ghostface “needs something” – seeming to imply that he is no longer relevant.
This was undoubtedly bad form. Lyrically minded New York MCs are, even more than other rappers, expected to maintain respect for those who came before them. This is especially true if you’re white (Eminem, for example, regularly shouts out those who inspired him). Sure, Bronson has been more of a critic’s darling than Ghost in recent years. But his catalog can’t compare with his Wu-Tang predecessor’s, and even today Ghostface has by no means fallen off. Recent works such as Sour Soul, with jazz trio BadBadNotGood, and Twelve Reasons to Die II, with producer Adrian Younge, show that he maintains his sharpness.
Ghostface Killah even threatened to set Bronson’s beard on fire
Bronson’s comments inspired an epic, six-minute rebuttal from Ghostface on Monday, in which he told his side of the story, and threatened Bronson’s life in a number of ways. Even for someone who prides himself on painting gory macabre portraits, this was a doozy. “Don’t let me hang you from a rope and gut you like a pig,” he said at one point, also threatening to set Bronson’s beard on fire.
Ghostface didn’t break into rhyme, but it was a glorious hip-hop performance nonetheless. He wore a St Louis Cardinals jacket and grey sweatpants, which he held up, near his crotch, with his left hand, which somehow heightened the tension. Discoursing (presumably from his living room) over the Teddy Pendergrass song Be For Real, he at times paused to let the chorus sink in, making the case that Bronson was a “fraud”.
As Ghostface told it, following the SportsNation episode he called Bronson, telling him to make things right. Bronson then walked it back on Twitter, calling Ghostface an “idol”. But the Queens rapper then deleted the tweets. This inspired Ghost’s public wrath, with him insisting that he maintains contacts in all 50 states “that’ll do disappearing acts on motherfuckers for nothing”.
Bronson quickly put up a series of apologetic tweets, noting: “When ur wrong ur wrong and I was wrong. I apologized for the comments. I’ll always be a stand up human. Much love.” His feed since then has shown a desire to put the incident behind him.
Indeed, it’s certainly never positive when real-life violence is threatened. But in this case it seems likely that Ghost was mainly sending a message. Someone actually intent on murdering someone else probably wouldn’t go into great detail about how he planned on doing it, for one thing. Still, while Ghostface isn’t known for violence, like his group, he ain’t nothing to fuck with. He did four months for attempted robbery in 1999, and his son, Wu-Tang affiliate Sun God, was recently arrested on gun charges and accused of assaulting two detectives.
Make no mistake – Bronson is no slouch himself, known for pummeling and throwing off stage fans who run up on him. (He’s a fan, after all, of mixed martial arts.) But one suspects that nothing will come of this back-and-forth, other than promotion for each artist’s latest projects.
In the long term, however, it’s unclear how Bronson fans will react. They tend to worship the true school, lyrical masters like Wu-Tang, and to break with Ghost in this way seems likely to alienate some of them. But for Ghost himself the skirmish could have the opposite effect. No one faults him for coming back as did, and in fact he did so in the most classic Wu-Tang style imaginable. Even though he’s not rapping, the YouTube clip could practically be released as a single, and would rival Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) track Method Man for its vivid, inventive threats.
Again, if you believe that this video is more akin to a diss track than an actual promise of violence (as I do), it’s pretty compelling. Having a real-life target for one’s lyrical wrath has creatively inspired plenty of rappers over the years, from Dr Dre (Nuthin’ But a ‘G’ Thang) to Jay-Z (The Takeover). In both cases these conflicts also inspired their rivals – Eazy-E and Nas respectively – to up their games as well. For the sake of hip-hop, one hopes that Action Bronson and Ghostface will follow course and settle this beef as it should be – on wax.
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Poppa Wu steppin to Bronson at Sean Price's wake...
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popawu7 This wat we do I'm 4 real Popawu u Fuk with my mine u get Chestties Wu 4ever
''Chestties'' ???;D
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What a washed up, disrespectful prick... no respect for the dead just because he wants his moment of shine off another man's battle, you already know he had his boys with the cameras ready like "Yo make sure you get a pic for my IG"
Bronson looking like he's about to body slam dude anyhow
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https://www.youtube.com/v/axHml2_hlvY
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Papa Wu's actions just made Ghostface take the L
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Papa Wu's actions just made Ghostface take the L
not really
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Papa Wu's actions just made Ghostface take the L
not really
my bad... made the entire Wu brand take an L
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Papa Wu's actions just made Ghostface take the L
not really
my bad... made the entire Wu brand take an L
it's sukcer shit to think that one mans actions is responsible for an entire crew....i bet some wu members dont even know about this shit and couldnt care less even if they did.
now if it was ghost steppin to action, whole nother story.
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Ghostface Killah responds.
Ghostface Killah has responded to Popa Wu's interaction with Action Bronson at Sean Price's wake.
"Nuff respect to Sean price family, my condolences," he writes on Twitter today (August 12). "That thing that happen yesterday wasn't my work, I never sent the wolves on him."
Ghostface Killah feuded with Action Bronson last month when Bronson said the Wu-Tang member didn't rap in his signature style anymore.
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Papa Wu's actions just made Ghostface take the L
not really
my bad... made the entire Wu brand take an L
it's sukcer shit to think that one mans actions is responsible for an entire crew....i bet some wu members dont even know about this shit and couldnt care less even if they did.
now if it was ghost steppin to action, whole nother story.
doesn't matter, this dude represents the entire Wu-Tang just like any other member and not only that he is their supposed 'OG'... if it's anybody that should know better it's Popa Wu and he just made them all look real bad
if Ghost did this, it would be even worse and most definitely still an L for homie
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Papa Wu's actions just made Ghostface take the L
not really
my bad... made the entire Wu brand take an L
Yep - HEY LETS LOOK LIKE A BUNCH OF OLD FAGGOTS AND POST A VIDEO OF US BEING MAD AT A GUY FOR PAYIN RESPECTS AT A FUNERAL
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Papa Wu's actions just made Ghostface take the L
not really
my bad... made the entire Wu brand take an L
Yep - HEY LETS LOOK LIKE A BUNCH OF OLD FAGGOTS AND POST A VIDEO OF US BEING MAD AT A GUY FOR PAYIN RESPECTS AT A FUNERAL
you know Papa Wu is gonna be copping pleas soon just like Ghost is right now about the situation lol "I went there to straighten it out, the media is twisting this up to destroy our brothers"
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YALL BLOWIN IT UP JUS AS MUCH AS THE MEDIA DO....U COULDNT EVEN TELL WHAT WAS SAID FROM THAT LIL VIDEO CLIP POSTED LOL. OL' CHEERLEADER LOOKIN MUFUCKAZ.
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YALL BLOWIN IT UP JUS AS MUCH AS THE MEDIA DO....U COULDNT EVEN TELL WHAT WAS SAID FROM THAT LIL VIDEO CLIP POSTED LOL. OL' CHEERLEADER LOOKIN MUFUCKAZ.
well nobody is being cheered on so we'd be more of hecklers than anything lol you can hear him say "he need to apologize again" or something along the lines
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lol u retards still on this :D
why even care bout someone who wont be around in 2 years
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Aren't all these guys a little too old for this stuff?
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https://www.youtube.com/v/16GJkL7fQlo
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https://www.youtube.com/v/16GJkL7fQlo
I agree with NORE 100%.
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Aren't all these guys a little too old for this stuff?
in 2015 all rappers are too old for this stuff lol
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What's the beat in the background of the Nore video? I know it. I just can't put my finger on it.