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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Quadruple OG on June 19, 2009, 05:09:47 PM
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http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/death-row-back-to-life-with-publishing-deal-1003985962.story
Music publisher EverGreen, which owns the catalogs of 2 Live Crew, Third Eye Blind, MC Hammer, Tupac Shakur and others, has signed a deal with WIDEawake, the Canada-based development company that acquired the assets of Death Row Records earlier this year, to be the worldwide administration company of the legendary rap label. As part of a long-term arrangement, EverGreen will administer and handle licensing for all of the compositions and master recordings in the Death Row catalog, as well as the processing of all mechanical and performance royalties in the catalog.
"After purchasing the Death Row catalog in January, WIDEawake began looking for a partner to help monetize their rights," David Schulhof, co-CEO of EverGreen, tells Billboard.com. "We already had a relationship through the estate of Tupac Shakur; WIDEawake was looking for an exclusive boutique company to help focus on licensing in the film, television, video game and ad world; and because we own the catalogs of Tupac and 2 Live Crew and Teddy Riley and others, they knew we already had experience in the genre. So, it just felt like the obvious choice for them to partner up with us for Death Row."
With the new joint venture, WIDEawake extends EverGreen's rights to market, promote and collect royalties on all the copyrights and master recordings in the Death Row catalog, including more than 10,000 released and unreleased songs by such artists as Tupac, Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg and Tha Dogg Pound, Kurupt, Daz Dillinger and Nate Dogg, to list a few. It also includes never-before released albums by Crooked I, Lisa "Left Eye" Lopes, RBX, The Lady of Rage, Warren G, K-Solo, Danny Boy and DJ Quick, among others.
So far, EverGreen/WIDEawake has licensed tracks like "Nuttin' But A G Thang," "California Love" and "Gin N Juice" for television shows and movies. Evergreen also got new artists -- although he wouldn't reveal who -- to record remixes of a number of songs from the catalogs for several video games. "We are now a one-stop, which makes it easy to clear," says Schulhof. "If anyone in the film, tv, ad or video game world wanted to pick up any Death Row song, we control both sides of the equation so It'd be easy."
In addition, Death Row is expected to generate a number of new releases in the near future, like a new album of unreleased Tupac material to commemorate the rapper's June 2010 birthday. The as-yet-untitled album will be distributed by E-1 stateside and EMI overseas. Other forthcoming releases include a collector's edition rerelease of "The Chronic Re-Lit," slated for a September 1, 2009 street date. The album will feature four bonus tracks - all unreleased master from Death Row - plus a DVD with never before seen video footage of Dr. Dre and other artists. WIDEawake/Death Row will also release several box sets this holiday season, including a four CD collection of previously unreleased Death Row master recordings, never before seen images and video footage.
As well, WIDEawake/Death Row will launch a new brand extension called Hustle City, which will debut first as a graphic novel including a CD insert of music related to the story line. "Our goal is to continually breathe new life into Death Row," said Lavi, adding that aside from the graphic novel series, they also plan on releasing comic books, animated webisodes, a feature film and games under the Hustle City powered by Death Row music brand.
WIDEawake Entertainment Group snapped up Death Row Records from bankruptcy for $18 million in January. Lara Lavi, the company's founder and CEO, is a lawyer, songwriter and entrepreneur, who founded the company in 2006 to work in a variety of media, including film and music. WIDEawake has distribution in Canada through Universal Music.
So it looks like Santa is going to be bringing some unreleased Death Row boxed sets this X-Mas. Would be great if it plays out this way.
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wow. i can't wait 8)
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"Chronic: Re-Lit" pushed back again....gay.
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"Chronic: Re-Lit" pushed back again....gay.
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i'll probably have a great christmas this year...AS LONG AS THAT 4 DISC SET INCLUDES SOME 2PAC OG'S FROM STILL I RISE/UTEOT/BETTER DAYZ OFCOURSE 8)
oh and maybe the original "untouchable" from Pac's life...that'd be nice
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Man they ain't releasing shit. Same crap over and over again.
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Man they ain't releasing shit. Same crap over and over again.
WIDEawake/Death Row will also release several box sets this holiday season, including a four CD collection of previously unreleased Death Row master recordings, never before seen images and video footage.
sounds like they're waiting for the best quarter of the year for their sales...I can't blame them in this economy
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"Evergreen also got new artists -- although he wouldn't reveal who -- to record remixes of a number of songs from the catalogs for several video games."
^^Yeah sounds great. :P
Blasphemy.
Wideawake should have been allowed to buy the released catalog only, the rest should have been kept in the vault. Bootleggers would make sure the stuff gets out one way or another and thanks to the good people who are willing to share and leak it everybody would be able to enjoy it.
Let that Death Row jinx continue and see how NOTHING gets released by this company.
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They don't have half of those albums listed.
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Wideawake should have been allowed to buy the released catalog only, the rest should have been kept in the vault. Bootleggers would make sure the stuff gets out one way or another and thanks to the good people who are willing to share and leak it everybody would be able to enjoy it.
Let that Death Row jinx continue and see how NOTHING gets released by this company.
If nothing is going to get released, why does it matter what they are allowed to buy? I don't see what you are angry about. It seems like a win-win situation for everyone.
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not happening
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unreleased RBX album on Death Row? Kilo,that's bullshit right?
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unreleased RBX album on Death Row? Kilo,that's bullshit right?
they probably have enough RBX-tracks for an album...
i'll probably have a great christmas this year...AS LONG AS THAT 4 DISC SET INCLUDES SOME 2PAC OG'S FROM STILL I RISE/UTEOT/BETTER DAYZ OFCOURSE 8)
oh and maybe the original "untouchable" from Pac's life...that'd be nice
I pray to god they don't fuck this up by releasing 2pac og's that we have all heard... Pac-stans would be like "Omg! this original version of They Don't Give A Fuck About Us got an adlib slightly different from the released version!" Fuck that, give me unheard gems fro DPG, Dre, Sneed, J-Flexx, Realest, Rage etc. We've got enough Pac-materiale to last us a lifetime.
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word i was thinking about that lol
i want these:
-my closest road dog SOLO
-as the world turns (ft fatal)
who do ya luv (w stretch)
hennessy (w syke and mopreme)
thug 4 life (ft stretch)
changed man (2 verses + syke)
still ballin (w kurupt...not just the acapella)
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http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/death-row-back-to-life-with-publishing-deal-1003985962.story
Music publisher EverGreen, which owns the catalogs of 2 Live Crew, Third Eye Blind, MC Hammer, Tupac Shakur and others, has signed a deal with WIDEawake, the Canada-based development company that acquired the assets of Death Row Records earlier this year, to be the worldwide administration company of the legendary rap label. As part of a long-term arrangement, EverGreen will administer and handle licensing for all of the compositions and master recordings in the Death Row catalog, as well as the processing of all mechanical and performance royalties in the catalog.
"After purchasing the Death Row catalog in January, WIDEawake began looking for a partner to help monetize their rights," David Schulhof, co-CEO of EverGreen, tells Billboard.com. "We already had a relationship through the estate of Tupac Shakur; WIDEawake was looking for an exclusive boutique company to help focus on licensing in the film, television, video game and ad world; and because we own the catalogs of Tupac and 2 Live Crew and Teddy Riley and others, they knew we already had experience in the genre. So, it just felt like the obvious choice for them to partner up with us for Death Row."
With the new joint venture, WIDEawake extends EverGreen's rights to market, promote and collect royalties on all the copyrights and master recordings in the Death Row catalog, including more than 10,000 released and unreleased songs by such artists as Tupac, Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg and Tha Dogg Pound, Kurupt, Daz Dillinger and Nate Dogg, to list a few. It also includes never-before released albums by Crooked I, Lisa "Left Eye" Lopes, RBX, The Lady of Rage, Warren G, K-Solo, Danny Boy and DJ Quick, among others.
So far, EverGreen/WIDEawake has licensed tracks like "Nuttin' But A G Thang," "California Love" and "Gin N Juice" for television shows and movies. Evergreen also got new artists -- although he wouldn't reveal who -- to record remixes of a number of songs from the catalogs for several video games. "We are now a one-stop, which makes it easy to clear," says Schulhof. "If anyone in the film, tv, ad or video game world wanted to pick up any Death Row song, we control both sides of the equation so It'd be easy."
In addition, Death Row is expected to generate a number of new releases in the near future, like a new album of unreleased Tupac material to commemorate the rapper's June 2010 birthday. The as-yet-untitled album will be distributed by E-1 stateside and EMI overseas. Other forthcoming releases include a collector's edition rerelease of "The Chronic Re-Lit," slated for a September 1, 2009 street date. The album will feature four bonus tracks - all unreleased master from Death Row - plus a DVD with never before seen video footage of Dr. Dre and other artists. WIDEawake/Death Row will also release several box sets this holiday season, including a four CD collection of previously unreleased Death Row master recordings, never before seen images and video footage.
As well, WIDEawake/Death Row will launch a new brand extension called Hustle City, which will debut first as a graphic novel including a CD insert of music related to the story line. "Our goal is to continually breathe new life into Death Row," said Lavi, adding that aside from the graphic novel series, they also plan on releasing comic books, animated webisodes, a feature film and games under the Hustle City powered by Death Row music brand.
WIDEawake Entertainment Group snapped up Death Row Records from bankruptcy for $18 million in January. Lara Lavi, the company's founder and CEO, is a lawyer, songwriter and entrepreneur, who founded the company in 2006 to work in a variety of media, including film and music. WIDEawake has distribution in Canada through Universal Music.
So it looks like Santa is going to be bringing some unreleased Death Row boxed sets this X-Mas. Would be great if it plays out this way.
you stil believe in santa?
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Damn Chronic pushed back again, interesting that its now coming with 4 unreleased tracks instead of 2 though!
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Is anyone else as happy as me ???I never though I'd get to see Death Row rule the industry once again. WideAwake has my full fucking respect. Death Row Records Untouchable again.Let The G-Funk Era Redux begin.
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pushed back for what? reveal the truth.
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Really good news.
A box set including 4 cds and unseen footage sounds great :) I hope the 2PAC sessions footage :rock:
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This really sounds great - now let's just hope they gonna stick to their words and release that material...
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this are very good news, i`m really exited as long as they keep everything original. i will buy all their releases
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Wideawake should have been allowed to buy the released catalog only, the rest should have been kept in the vault. Bootleggers would make sure the stuff gets out one way or another and thanks to the good people who are willing to share and leak it everybody would be able to enjoy it.
Let that Death Row jinx continue and see how NOTHING gets released by this company.
If nothing is going to get released, why does it matter what they are allowed to buy? I don't see what you are angry about. It seems like a win-win situation for everyone.
Is anyone else as happy as me ???I never though I'd get to see Death Row rule the industry once again. WideAwake has my full fucking respect. Death Row Records Untouchable again.Let The G-Funk Era Redux begin.
^^ LOL leave the drugs alone man.
But this is my exact problem I have with this whole Wideawake thing: They might have acuired all of the assets but they are NOT nor will they ever be Death Row Records.
First of all it may seem cool that some of that unreleased material MIGHT finally see the light of day, but it still remains to be seen when and more importantly: in what form. Since they owe the stuff I'm assuming they have 100% free control of it which means that they can go the same route as Afeni Shakur; make a little change here and there put this on take this off etc etc. I'm not saying that is what is going to happen but this quote from the article already got me suspicious:
"Evergreen also got new artists -- although he wouldn't reveal who -- to record remixes of a number of songs from the catalogs for several video games." :grumpy:
Besides Death Row's reign at the top didn't even take place in this century so it would seem logical for Wideawake to alter, edit or whatever some of the content to make it more, let's say accessible to some of today's music consumers.
But even if they did release any unreleased material in its OG form it still would not change the fact that Wideawake is NOT Death Row Records. Death Row has been dead the minute the company got taken over by the bankruptcy trustee which resulted in the former co-founder/CEO of the label losing all control of it including the master recordings. As a true fan I say that was really the end of one of the most legendary labels of all time. Wideawake may have the music, video material and what else they might have but they are not Death Row Records. I say this as a fan of the label, I look past the fact that the unreleased material may have a better change to be released cause I would much rather have seen the label operate in its original form before it was taken over. At least it was a real label back then. You could really call it Death Row Records.
Now I know Suge Knight doesn't get alot of love around here (or in the industry for that matter) so let's twist it around a little: replace Suge Knight with Dr. Dre and Death Row with Aftermath. I'm not a big Aftermath fan but if I was I wouldn't be happen about some other company being able to take over as a result of a bankruptcy case and then do as they please, using the Aftermath logo and name releasing material as they see fit all while there is no Dr. Dre or any actual (Aftermath) artists. How could it be Aftermath when the company has been taken over? When there's no Dre? When there are no artists cause there isn't a real label for them to be on?
I think George Pryce once said it best: Without Suge Knight there is no Death Row Records.
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I personally dont care what label releases the music as long as its un tampered. Its the quality of the music that counts and not what label is on the back of the case.
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Without Dr. Dre there is no Death Row Records.
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I personally dont care what label releases the music as long as its un tampered. Its the quality of the music that counts and not what label is on the back of the case.
i agree, when its untampered its Death Row in it even when Bad Boy label on the backside
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Without Dr. Dre there is no Death Row Records.
Biggest misconception in hip hop.
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i hope those 2 releases come out (the chronic & 4 cd's) but i dont think they will be
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Wideawake should have been allowed to buy the released catalog only, the rest should have been kept in the vault. Bootleggers would make sure the stuff gets out one way or another and thanks to the good people who are willing to share and leak it everybody would be able to enjoy it.
Let that Death Row jinx continue and see how NOTHING gets released by this company.
If nothing is going to get released, why does it matter what they are allowed to buy? I don't see what you are angry about. It seems like a win-win situation for everyone.
Is anyone else as happy as me ???I never though I'd get to see Death Row rule the industry once again. WideAwake has my full fucking respect. Death Row Records Untouchable again.Let The G-Funk Era Redux begin.
^^ LOL leave the drugs alone man.
But this is my exact problem I have with this whole Wideawake thing: They might have acuired all of the assets but they are NOT nor will they ever be Death Row Records.
First of all it may seem cool that some of that unreleased material MIGHT finally see the light of day, but it still remains to be seen when and more importantly: in what form. Since they owe the stuff I'm assuming they have 100% free control of it which means that they can go the same route as Afeni Shakur; make a little change here and there put this on take this off etc etc. I'm not saying that is what is going to happen but this quote from the article already got me suspicious:
"Evergreen also got new artists -- although he wouldn't reveal who -- to record remixes of a number of songs from the catalogs for several video games." :grumpy:
Besides Death Row's reign at the top didn't even take place in this century so it would seem logical for Wideawake to alter, edit or whatever some of the content to make it more, let's say accessible to some of today's music consumers.
But even if they did release any unreleased material in its OG form it still would not change the fact that Wideawake is NOT Death Row Records. Death Row has been dead the minute the company got taken over by the bankruptcy trustee which resulted in the former co-founder/CEO of the label losing all control of it including the master recordings. As a true fan I say that was really the end of one of the most legendary labels of all time. Wideawake may have the music, video material and what else they might have but they are not Death Row Records. I say this as a fan of the label, I look past the fact that the unreleased material may have a better change to be released cause I would much rather have seen the label operate in its original form before it was taken over. At least it was a real label back then. You could really call it Death Row Records.
Now I know Suge Knight doesn't get alot of love around here (or in the industry for that matter) so let's twist it around a little: replace Suge Knight with Dr. Dre and Death Row with Aftermath. I'm not a big Aftermath fan but if I was I wouldn't be happen about some other company being able to take over as a result of a bankruptcy case and then do as they please, using the Aftermath logo and name releasing material as they see fit all while there is no Dr. Dre or any actual (Aftermath) artists. How could it be Aftermath when the company has been taken over? When there's no Dre? When there are no artists cause there isn't a real label for them to be on?
I think George Pryce once said it best: Without Suge Knight there is no Death Row Records.
Suge Knight had his chance, but he blew it.
move on
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^^^ exactly. Dude fucked over too many people and tried to dodge the law and lost. Its the artists I care about not some overweight bodyguard. If they drop new untouched 2Pac along with Quik, DPG, Snoop, Rage etc i'm sure nobody's gonna give a fuck whether their moneys going to Suge or a Canadian couple.
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All i want them to release is some Danny Boy, Jewel and B-rezell stuff.
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pushed back for what? reveal the truth.
well if I was Wide Awake i'd know that anyone with half a brain in the Sales industry knows that releasing something in the 4th quarter (i.e. early December)
unless you were talking about Chronic Re-lit....i wanted to hear that this summer :(
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pushed back for what? reveal the truth.
well if I was Wide Awake i'd know that anyone with half a brain in the Sales industry knows that releasing something in the 4th quarter (i.e. early December)
unless you were talking about Chronic Re-lit....i wanted to hear that this summer :(
yeah that's what i'm referring to
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they better put some UNHEARD bonus tracks instead of "hey lets throw on the let me ride remix because that will fill up the cd" or something lame
or "lets put deep cover and keep ya heads ringing on it"
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This sounds really good. Let's hope they start releasin' music and not just talkin' about it.
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Wideawake should have been allowed to buy the released catalog only, the rest should have been kept in the vault. Bootleggers would make sure the stuff gets out one way or another and thanks to the good people who are willing to share and leak it everybody would be able to enjoy it.
Let that Death Row jinx continue and see how NOTHING gets released by this company.
If nothing is going to get released, why does it matter what they are allowed to buy? I don't see what you are angry about. It seems like a win-win situation for everyone.
Is anyone else as happy as me ???I never though I'd get to see Death Row rule the industry once again. WideAwake has my full fucking respect. Death Row Records Untouchable again.Let The G-Funk Era Redux begin.
^^ LOL leave the drugs alone man.
But this is my exact problem I have with this whole Wideawake thing: They might have acuired all of the assets but they are NOT nor will they ever be Death Row Records.
First of all it may seem cool that some of that unreleased material MIGHT finally see the light of day, but it still remains to be seen when and more importantly: in what form. Since they owe the stuff I'm assuming they have 100% free control of it which means that they can go the same route as Afeni Shakur; make a little change here and there put this on take this off etc etc. I'm not saying that is what is going to happen but this quote from the article already got me suspicious:
"Evergreen also got new artists -- although he wouldn't reveal who -- to record remixes of a number of songs from the catalogs for several video games." :grumpy:
Besides Death Row's reign at the top didn't even take place in this century so it would seem logical for Wideawake to alter, edit or whatever some of the content to make it more, let's say accessible to some of today's music consumers.
But even if they did release any unreleased material in its OG form it still would not change the fact that Wideawake is NOT Death Row Records. Death Row has been dead the minute the company got taken over by the bankruptcy trustee which resulted in the former co-founder/CEO of the label losing all control of it including the master recordings. As a true fan I say that was really the end of one of the most legendary labels of all time. Wideawake may have the music, video material and what else they might have but they are not Death Row Records. I say this as a fan of the label, I look past the fact that the unreleased material may have a better change to be released cause I would much rather have seen the label operate in its original form before it was taken over. At least it was a real label back then. You could really call it Death Row Records.
Now I know Suge Knight doesn't get alot of love around here (or in the industry for that matter) so let's twist it around a little: replace Suge Knight with Dr. Dre and Death Row with Aftermath. I'm not a big Aftermath fan but if I was I wouldn't be happen about some other company being able to take over as a result of a bankruptcy case and then do as they please, using the Aftermath logo and name releasing material as they see fit all while there is no Dr. Dre or any actual (Aftermath) artists. How could it be Aftermath when the company has been taken over? When there's no Dre? When there are no artists cause there isn't a real label for them to be on?
I think George Pryce once said it best: Without Suge Knight there is no Death Row Records.
Suge Knight had his chance, but he blew it.
move on
lol.
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suge showed us that he was completely incompitent at running a label after Snoop left
look how many quality artists he signed and NEVER DROPPED ALBUMS BY...Crooked I, Kurupt, Eastwood, Nina
all they could do was be partners with Afeni on UTEOT and Better Dayz and drop Greatest Hits compilations
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suge showed us that he was completely incompitent at running a label after Snoop left
look how many quality artists he signed and NEVER DROPPED ALBUMS BY...Crooked I, Kurupt, Eastwood, Nina
all they could do was be partners with Afeni on UTEOT and Better Dayz and drop Greatest Hits compilations
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look how many quality artists he signed and NEVER DROPPED ALBUMS BY...Crooked I, Kurupt, Eastwood, Nina
Kurupt released "Against Tha Grain" though, or was it released by Death Row after he left?
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suge showed us that he was completely incompitent at running a label after Snoop left
look how many quality artists he signed and NEVER DROPPED ALBUMS BY...Crooked I, Kurupt, Eastwood, Nina
all they could do was be partners with Afeni on UTEOT and Better Dayz and drop Greatest Hits compilations
If only it was that simple.
look how many quality artists he signed and NEVER DROPPED ALBUMS BY...Crooked I, Kurupt, Eastwood, Nina
Kurupt released "Against Tha Grain" though, or was it released by Death Row after he left?
After he left, they even urged people not to buy it on the offical website back then.
^^^ exactly. Dude fucked over too many people and tried to dodge the law and lost. Its the artists I care about not some overweight bodyguard. If they drop new untouched 2Pac along with Quik, DPG, Snoop, Rage etc i'm sure nobody's gonna give a fuck whether their moneys going to Suge or a Canadian couple.
LOL I find it funny that people are always so quick to point the finger at Suge, he did this he did that blah blah like he is the ultimate hip hop boogeyman. I'm pretty sure some shiesty shit went on at DR I'm not denying that but people act like this type of shit is only reserved for Suge and DR. Diddy, Baby & Slim even Eazy (no disrespect R.I.P.) etc etc you just name them all these people have skeletons in their closets, shady business practice has and always will be an integral part of hip hop no need to point it out again and again.
I care about the artists/music too but I also care about the label itself, that's why I think it's a shame it has come to this.
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suge showed us that he was completely incompitent at running a label after Snoop left
look how many quality artists he signed and NEVER DROPPED ALBUMS BY...Crooked I, Kurupt, Eastwood, Nina
all they could do was be partners with Afeni on UTEOT and Better Dayz and drop Greatest Hits compilations
If only it was that simple.
look how many quality artists he signed and NEVER DROPPED ALBUMS BY...Crooked I, Kurupt, Eastwood, Nina
Kurupt released "Against Tha Grain" though, or was it released by Death Row after he left?
After he left, they even urged people not to buy it on the offical website back then.
^^^ exactly. Dude fucked over too many people and tried to dodge the law and lost. Its the artists I care about not some overweight bodyguard. If they drop new untouched 2Pac along with Quik, DPG, Snoop, Rage etc i'm sure nobody's gonna give a fuck whether their moneys going to Suge or a Canadian couple.
LOL I find it funny that people are always so quick to point the finger at Suge, he did this he did that blah blah like he is the ultimate hip hop boogeyman. I'm pretty sure some shiesty shit went on at DR I'm not denying that but people act like this type of shit is only reserved for Suge and DR. Diddy, Baby & Slim even Eazy (no disrespect R.I.P.) etc etc you just name them all these people have skeletons in their closets, shady business practice has and always will be an integral part of hip hop no need to point it out again and again.
I care about the artists/music too but I also care about the label itself, that's why I think it's a shame it has come to this.
sure, there's a difference between how suge knight is perceived by the public(though Suge Knight is mainly to blame for the negative image, as he hasn't really done anything to prove that he's different) & reality.
but the fact remains that Suge Knight is to blame for the fact that death row went bankrupt.
you should be happy that other companies got the chance to buy the catalogue, as death row couldn't sink any further.
whether Wideawake will do the right thing, is another story.
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well if they actually do this the right way and release music that has not been heard, and keep it in its original form, then I will actually buy the cd to support the project. If the chronic has 4 dope unreleased songs, that I have never heard, or don't have in cdq, I will actually buy the cd. And I think in the past 5 years I have bought like 3 cd's.
however, if they do pull some bullshit, then I won't be buying anything.
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Kurupt released "Against Tha Grain" though, or was it released by Death Row after he left?
After he left, they even urged people not to buy it on the offical website back then.
because the distributing party took the diss songs from the album
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I'm glad WideAwake is making moves & even plans on putting out their own artists.
But plese keep them & YOUR NEW artists the FUCK away from Death Row era made stuff & sounds.
I'll support your re-leases 100%
But please keep the nobodies off the music.
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Dr. Dre is to Death Row what Eazy E is to Ruthless. The epicenter of the label's talent.
Suge Knight is Jerry Heller... just some fat guys who got lucky
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unreleased RBX album on Death Row? Kilo,that's bullshit right?
Not B/S. Lol. RBX, despite how much he would have not like to have made the decision to join Death Row, still has quite a bit of material considering he didn't get to leave till 1994 or 1995.
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Wideawake should have been allowed to buy the released catalog only, the rest should have been kept in the vault. Bootleggers would make sure the stuff gets out one way or another and thanks to the good people who are willing to share and leak it everybody would be able to enjoy it.
Let that Death Row jinx continue and see how NOTHING gets released by this company.
If nothing is going to get released, why does it matter what they are allowed to buy? I don't see what you are angry about. It seems like a win-win situation for everyone.
Is anyone else as happy as me ???I never though I'd get to see Death Row rule the industry once again. WideAwake has my full fucking respect. Death Row Records Untouchable again.Let The G-Funk Era Redux begin.
^^ LOL leave the drugs alone man.
But this is my exact problem I have with this whole Wideawake thing: They might have acuired all of the assets but they are NOT nor will they ever be Death Row Records.
First of all it may seem cool that some of that unreleased material MIGHT finally see the light of day, but it still remains to be seen when and more importantly: in what form. Since they owe the stuff I'm assuming they have 100% free control of it which means that they can go the same route as Afeni Shakur; make a little change here and there put this on take this off etc etc. I'm not saying that is what is going to happen but this quote from the article already got me suspicious:
"Evergreen also got new artists -- although he wouldn't reveal who -- to record remixes of a number of songs from the catalogs for several video games." :grumpy:
Besides Death Row's reign at the top didn't even take place in this century so it would seem logical for Wideawake to alter, edit or whatever some of the content to make it more, let's say accessible to some of today's music consumers.
But even if they did release any unreleased material in its OG form it still would not change the fact that Wideawake is NOT Death Row Records. Death Row has been dead the minute the company got taken over by the bankruptcy trustee which resulted in the former co-founder/CEO of the label losing all control of it including the master recordings. As a true fan I say that was really the end of one of the most legendary labels of all time. Wideawake may have the music, video material and what else they might have but they are not Death Row Records. I say this as a fan of the label, I look past the fact that the unreleased material may have a better change to be released cause I would much rather have seen the label operate in its original form before it was taken over. At least it was a real label back then. You could really call it Death Row Records.
Now I know Suge Knight doesn't get alot of love around here (or in the industry for that matter) so let's twist it around a little: replace Suge Knight with Dr. Dre and Death Row with Aftermath. I'm not a big Aftermath fan but if I was I wouldn't be happen about some other company being able to take over as a result of a bankruptcy case and then do as they please, using the Aftermath logo and name releasing material as they see fit all while there is no Dr. Dre or any actual (Aftermath) artists. How could it be Aftermath when the company has been taken over? When there's no Dre? When there are no artists cause there isn't a real label for them to be on?
I think George Pryce once said it best: Without Suge Knight there is no Death Row Records.
I agree. + 1
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unreleased RBX album on Death Row? Kilo,that's bullshit right?
Not B/S. Lol. RBX, despite how much he would have not like to have made the decision to join Death Row, still has quite a bit of material considering he didn't get to leave till 1994 or 1995.
+1 OK,thanks for the info. What about Warren G,K-Solo and Rage (is it tracks from eargasm?)?
Any info on who did the beats for RBX´s Death Row project? Greg Royal (produced RBX-files) worked on The Chronic,so maybe he was set to work with RBX?
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unreleased RBX album on Death Row? Kilo,that's bullshit right?
Not B/S. Lol. RBX, despite how much he would have not like to have made the decision to join Death Row, still has quite a bit of material considering he didn't get to leave till 1994 or 1995.
+1 OK,thanks for the info. What about Warren G,K-Solo and Rage (is it tracks from eargasm?)?
Any info on who did the beats for RBX´s Death Row project? Greg Royal (produced RBX-files) worked on The Chronic,so maybe he was set to work with RBX?
Not sure, but I know Gregski/Greg Royal did immense work on it since he also did his retail album. Too bad RBX hasn't worked with him in years. Warren G doesn't have an album over there I believe due to him landing the Def Jam deal, but he might have material. K-Solo has an incomplete album over there, and Rage has an incomplete album over there too.
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Dr. Dre is to Death Row what Eazy E is to Ruthless. The epicenter of the label's talent.
Suge Knight is Jerry Heller... just some fat guys who got lucky
nah man those labels are 2 different situations
Dre left and DEath Row still had 2pac and Snoop to hold them afloat....if 2pac never died in 96 or after that, i bet you death row would've carried on thru the 2000's and Snoop would'nt have left unless he started beef with 2pac...which the 2 were not getting necessarily along at the end as it's been known...Snoop had that radio interview saying he'd work with Biggie
either way Suge did alot more for the business of deathrow than heller did for nwa
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unreleased RBX album on Death Row? Kilo,that's bullshit right?
Not B/S. Lol. RBX, despite how much he would have not like to have made the decision to join Death Row, still has quite a bit of material considering he didn't get to leave till 1994 or 1995.
+1 OK,thanks for the info. What about Warren G,K-Solo and Rage (is it tracks from eargasm?)?
Any info on who did the beats for RBX´s Death Row project? Greg Royal (produced RBX-files) worked on The Chronic,so maybe he was set to work with RBX?
Not sure, but I know Gregski/Greg Royal did immense work on it since he also did his retail album. Too bad RBX hasn't worked with him in years. Warren G doesn't have an album over there I believe due to him landing the Def Jam deal, but he might have material. K-Solo has an incomplete album over there, and Rage has an incomplete album over there too.
Greg Royal is a mystery to me,he worked on The Chronic. Then did RBX´s album,after that he only did random work here and there.
Who brought him aboard? Dre? Chris Taylor? Colin Wolfe? who?
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unreleased RBX album on Death Row? Kilo,that's bullshit right?
Not B/S. Lol. RBX, despite how much he would have not like to have made the decision to join Death Row, still has quite a bit of material considering he didn't get to leave till 1994 or 1995.
+1 OK,thanks for the info. What about Warren G,K-Solo and Rage (is it tracks from eargasm?)?
Any info on who did the beats for RBX´s Death Row project? Greg Royal (produced RBX-files) worked on The Chronic,so maybe he was set to work with RBX?
Not sure, but I know Gregski/Greg Royal did immense work on it since he also did his retail album. Too bad RBX hasn't worked with him in years. Warren G doesn't have an album over there I believe due to him landing the Def Jam deal, but he might have material. K-Solo has an incomplete album over there, and Rage has an incomplete album over there too.
Greg Royal is a mystery to me,he worked on The Chronic. Then did RBX´s album,after that he only did random work here and there.
Who brought him aboard? Dre? Chris Taylor? Colin Wolfe? who?
Not sure, I would have thought Dre did since he was the one who brought along Colin and Chris. I will ask Colin next time I speak with him.
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unreleased RBX album on Death Row? Kilo,that's bullshit right?
Not B/S. Lol. RBX, despite how much he would have not like to have made the decision to join Death Row, still has quite a bit of material considering he didn't get to leave till 1994 or 1995.
+1 OK,thanks for the info. What about Warren G,K-Solo and Rage (is it tracks from eargasm?)?
Any info on who did the beats for RBX´s Death Row project? Greg Royal (produced RBX-files) worked on The Chronic,so maybe he was set to work with RBX?
Not sure, but I know Gregski/Greg Royal did immense work on it since he also did his retail album. Too bad RBX hasn't worked with him in years. Warren G doesn't have an album over there I believe due to him landing the Def Jam deal, but he might have material. K-Solo has an incomplete album over there, and Rage has an incomplete album over there too.
Greg Royal is a mystery to me,he worked on The Chronic. Then did RBX´s album,after that he only did random work here and there.
Who brought him aboard? Dre? Chris Taylor? Colin Wolfe? who?
Not sure, I would have thought Dre did since he was the one who brought along Colin and Chris. I will ask Colin next time I speak with him.
Where's Colin these days anyway?
I know he was based in Atlanta for a while working with Erick Sermon,Breed,Short and Hard Boys.. but dude has kept a low profile. :P
He's working with Tweety of the R & B group Next right now. He was working on his own band The Criens as well, but they've been on hiatus since 2007.
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unreleased RBX album on Death Row? Kilo,that's bullshit right?
Not B/S. Lol. RBX, despite how much he would have not like to have made the decision to join Death Row, still has quite a bit of material considering he didn't get to leave till 1994 or 1995.
+1 OK,thanks for the info. What about Warren G,K-Solo and Rage (is it tracks from eargasm?)?
Any info on who did the beats for RBX´s Death Row project? Greg Royal (produced RBX-files) worked on The Chronic,so maybe he was set to work with RBX?
Not sure, but I know Gregski/Greg Royal did immense work on it since he also did his retail album. Too bad RBX hasn't worked with him in years. Warren G doesn't have an album over there I believe due to him landing the Def Jam deal, but he might have material. K-Solo has an incomplete album over there, and Rage has an incomplete album over there too.
Greg Royal is a mystery to me,he worked on The Chronic. Then did RBX´s album,after that he only did random work here and there.
Who brought him aboard? Dre? Chris Taylor? Colin Wolfe? who?
Not sure, I would have thought Dre did since he was the one who brought along Colin and Chris. I will ask Colin next time I speak with him.
Where's Colin these days anyway?
I know he was based in Atlanta for a while working with Erick Sermon,Breed,Short and Hard Boys.. but dude has kept a low profile. :P
He's working with Tweety of the R & B group Next right now. He was working on his own band The Criens as well, but they've been on hiatus since 2007.
They got any albums that Colin Wolfe worked on?
Nah, never released anything. I tried taking them to a label I was working with since they were a great experimental rock group, but they got turned down.
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It's good to know that RBX really has unreleased Death Row material, i wouldn't mind WideAwake releasin' it.
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unreleased RBX album on Death Row? Kilo,that's bullshit right?
Not B/S. Lol. RBX, despite how much he would have not like to have made the decision to join Death Row, still has quite a bit of material considering he didn't get to leave till 1994 or 1995.
+1 OK,thanks for the info. What about Warren G,K-Solo and Rage (is it tracks from eargasm?)?
Any info on who did the beats for RBX´s Death Row project? Greg Royal (produced RBX-files) worked on The Chronic,so maybe he was set to work with RBX?
Not sure, but I know Gregski/Greg Royal did immense work on it since he also did his retail album. Too bad RBX hasn't worked with him in years. Warren G doesn't have an album over there I believe due to him landing the Def Jam deal, but he might have material. K-Solo has an incomplete album over there, and Rage has an incomplete album over there too.
Greg Royal is a mystery to me,he worked on The Chronic. Then did RBX´s album,after that he only did random work here and there.
Who brought him aboard? Dre? Chris Taylor? Colin Wolfe? who?
Not sure, I would have thought Dre did since he was the one who brought along Colin and Chris. I will ask Colin next time I speak with him.
Where's Colin these days anyway?
I know he was based in Atlanta for a while working with Erick Sermon,Breed,Short and Hard Boys.. but dude has kept a low profile. :P
He's working with Tweety of the R & B group Next right now. He was working on his own band The Criens as well, but they've been on hiatus since 2007.
They got any albums that Colin Wolfe worked on?
Nah, never released anything. I tried taking them to a label I was working with since they were a great experimental rock group, but they got turned down.
do you know why he left Dre´s "inner circle" after The Chronic?
He worked with Dre on three albums (Musical Madness,Niggaz4Life and The Chronic) then went AWOL from the LA scene,
he "stopped by" to work Chronic 2001 but that's it.
Not sure, but I have a feature planned for him on ThaVaults.com as well as a few other key figures in Dr. Dre's life. So, I will see if I can get an answer from him.
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suge showed us that he was completely incompitent at running a label after Snoop left
look how many quality artists he signed and NEVER DROPPED ALBUMS BY...Crooked I, Kurupt, Eastwood, Nina
all they could do was be partners with Afeni on UTEOT and Better Dayz and drop Greatest Hits compilations
If only it was that simple.
look how many quality artists he signed and NEVER DROPPED ALBUMS BY...Crooked I, Kurupt, Eastwood, Nina
Kurupt released "Against Tha Grain" though, or was it released by Death Row after he left?
After he left, they even urged people not to buy it on the offical website back then.
^^^ exactly. Dude fucked over too many people and tried to dodge the law and lost. Its the artists I care about not some overweight bodyguard. If they drop new untouched 2Pac along with Quik, DPG, Snoop, Rage etc i'm sure nobody's gonna give a fuck whether their moneys going to Suge or a Canadian couple.
LOL I find it funny that people are always so quick to point the finger at Suge, he did this he did that blah blah like he is the ultimate hip hop boogeyman. I'm pretty sure some shiesty shit went on at DR I'm not denying that but people act like this type of shit is only reserved for Suge and DR. Diddy, Baby & Slim even Eazy (no disrespect R.I.P.) etc etc you just name them all these people have skeletons in their closets, shady business practice has and always will be an integral part of hip hop no need to point it out again and again.
I care about the artists/music too but I also care about the label itself, that's why I think it's a shame it has come to this.
sure, there's a difference between how suge knight is perceived by the public(though Suge Knight is mainly to blame for the negative image, as he hasn't really done anything to prove that he's different) & reality.
but the fact remains that Suge Knight is to blame for the fact that death row went bankrupt.
you should be happy that other companies got the chance to buy the catalogue, as death row couldn't sink any further.
whether Wideawake will do the right thing, is another story.
I agree with you on Suge Knight not doing anything to change his and the label's negative image after he got out, he should have worked on that.
Now the bankruptcy case and ultimately the auctioning of all Death Row assets is a direct result of the 107 million dollars lawsuit Michael and Lydia Harris won back in late 2005 I think (all other lawsuits aside). So it is really a question as to whether you believe Michael Harris or not. The courts obviously did but what do you expect? You really think they (=the powers that be for lack of a better term) would want to pass on the change to bring down the notorious Suge Knight and his company? That guy from Compton who obtained so much money and power that extended even outside the entertainment industry? That guy who had so much clout he even had LAPD on his payroll? You think they would allow that man to succeed again to the extent of Death Row's heyday in the mid 90s? NO. So what happens, they let a known drug kingpin convicted of kidnapping and attempted murder win a court case that will ignite the falling of Death Row Records and its owner. How funny is that? A convicted drug kingpin jailed for attempted murder and his wife are awarded a 107 million dollars settlement... Doesn't matter if they actually got that 107 million or not the fuse had been lit to bring down Suge and his company.
On a side note Lydia Harris has divorced Michael and she also sued Xenon Pictures (the company who released the Welcome To Death Row documentary which she also executive produced, haha now how unbiased is that documentary anyway?) for not getting properly compensated for her work on that film. Again how funny is that? The woman makes a movie about how she and her ex-husband were cheated out of money and now she sues the film company for the exact same thing. Also in the same year of Death Row's bankruptcy, Michael Harris also claims he helped start up Rap-A-Lot so what does he do he goes and sues J Prince too... c'mon people wtf...
So all of Suge's shady/gangsta/violent business practice and other court cases aside, for me this the real reason why Death Row went bankrupt: two greedy money hungry people who were used as a tool to (by any means necessary) take down the company of a man and preferably the man himself too.
The only way I would be happy about DR being bought by another company is that they would allow Suge to be part of the proceedings, that's when it would be rightful to call it Death Row Records.
But we'll see what happens and what Wideawake will do, but if it goes down the same way as with Pac's legacy everybody who is excited about all of this will surely be sorry.
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Dr. Dre is to Death Row what Eazy E is to Ruthless. The epicenter of the label's talent.
Suge Knight is Jerry Heller... just some fat guys who got lucky
nah man those labels are 2 different situations
Dre left and DEath Row still had 2pac and Snoop to hold them afloat....if 2pac never died in 96 or after that, i bet you death row would've carried on thru the 2000's and Snoop would'nt have left unless he started beef with 2pac...
either way Suge did alot more for the business of deathrow than heller did for nwa
+1 for reckonizing how it is.
Look at all of the people who were signed or affiliated with DR after Dre left, and I'm not even talking about Pac and Snoop... DR would have been just fine without Dre.
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Dr. Dre is to Death Row what Eazy E is to Ruthless. The epicenter of the label's talent.
Suge Knight is Jerry Heller... just some fat guys who got lucky
nah man those labels are 2 different situations
Dre left and DEath Row still had 2pac and Snoop to hold them afloat....if 2pac never died in 96 or after that, i bet you death row would've carried on thru the 2000's and Snoop would'nt have left unless he started beef with 2pac...which the 2 were not getting necessarily along at the end as it's been known...Snoop had that radio interview saying he'd work with Biggie
either way Suge did alot more for the business of deathrow than heller did for nwa
I agree with most of what you're saying here, except that it implies that Jerry Heller didn't do much for NWA. I think that line of thinking is a little naive.
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Dr. Dre is to Death Row what Eazy E is to Ruthless. The epicenter of the label's talent.
Suge Knight is Jerry Heller... just some fat guys who got lucky
nah man those labels are 2 different situations
Dre left and DEath Row still had 2pac and Snoop to hold them afloat....if 2pac never died in 96 or after that, i bet you death row would've carried on thru the 2000's and Snoop would'nt have left unless he started beef with 2pac...which the 2 were not getting necessarily along at the end as it's been known...Snoop had that radio interview saying he'd work with Biggie
either way Suge did alot more for the business of deathrow than heller did for nwa
Wrong After That night in Vega's even if they didn't get shot up, they both would of went down for Parole Violation.That night was fucked up everything do to the cameras.Tupac would go back to jail and his Makaveli album would be released while he's in prison (sorta ironic since some people consider it a Semi-Sequel to Me Against The World). Suge Knight would go to jail for racketeering charges.So without Tupac or Suge Knight, the Label would of fallen into Disarray (though it would still survive, just be a lot weaker).
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Dr. Dre is to Death Row what Eazy E is to Ruthless. The epicenter of the label's talent.
Suge Knight is Jerry Heller... just some fat guys who got lucky
nah man those labels are 2 different situations
Dre left and DEath Row still had 2pac and Snoop to hold them afloat....if 2pac never died in 96 or after that, i bet you death row would've carried on thru the 2000's and Snoop would'nt have left unless he started beef with 2pac...which the 2 were not getting necessarily along at the end as it's been known...Snoop had that radio interview saying he'd work with Biggie
either way Suge did alot more for the business of deathrow than heller did for nwa
Wrong After That night in Vega's even if they didn't get shot up, they both would of went down for Parole Violation.That night was fucked up everything do to the cameras.Tupac would go back to jail and his Makaveli album would be released while he's in prison (sorta ironic since some people consider it a Semi-Sequel to Me Against The World). Suge Knight would go to jail for racketeering charges.So without Tupac or Suge Knight, the Label would of fallen into Disarray (though it would still survive, just be a lot weaker).
hahaha ok fortune teller
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Dr. Dre is to Death Row what Eazy E is to Ruthless. The epicenter of the label's talent.
Suge Knight is Jerry Heller... just some fat guys who got lucky
nah man those labels are 2 different situations
Dre left and DEath Row still had 2pac and Snoop to hold them afloat....if 2pac never died in 96 or after that, i bet you death row would've carried on thru the 2000's and Snoop wouldn't have left unless he started beef with 2pac...which the 2 were not getting necessarily along at the end as it's been known...Snoop had that radio interview saying he'd work with Biggie
either way Suge did alot more for the business of deathrow than heller did for nwa
I agree with most of what you're saying here, except that it implies that Jerry Heller didn't do much for NWA. I think that line of thinking is a little naive.
Hell yeah,Heller is the shit... first to sign springsteen... managed Marvin Gaye and so on. Dude is a legend.
Hard +1 to both of you, dudes got a fuckload of history in the music biz and did alot for NWA. All I gotta say is Van Morrison...
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Death Row came from..
1.) Suge getting Dre off Ruthless
2.) Suge 'acquiring' some cash
3.) Dre creating a masterpiece - The Chronic with Snoop and RBX writing rhymes and Daz and Warren G assistance with beats
4.) Warren G giving Dre the 213 Demo
5.) Dre signing Snoop
6.) Dre and Suge signing Daz, Kurupt, Nate Dogg
7.) Snoop's Doggystyle album
8.) Warren G and Nate Dogg releasing Regulate on Above The Rim
9.) Dre, Snoop, Daz, Kurupt, Nate, Warren G meeting Pac while Pac was doing Above The Rim
10.) Dogg Food - Daz showing off his production skills at its best
11.) Pac getting setup on the rape case and shot in NY and then going to jail.. Suge bailing out Pac since Suge had already been wanting Pac on Death Row
12.) Dre and Pac - California Love
13.) All Eyez On Me with Dre, Daz, Snoop, Nate Dogg, Kurupt all participating in the classic album
14.) Renting out Can Am Studios 24-7
15.) Makaveli
So Death Row is all these people plus all the others I did not mention and everything that happened after '96. And yeah Suge played a huge part so did Dre.
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Dr. Dre is to Death Row what Eazy E is to Ruthless. The epicenter of the label's talent.
Suge Knight is Jerry Heller... just some fat guys who got lucky
nah man those labels are 2 different situations
Dre left and DEath Row still had 2pac and Snoop to hold them afloat....if 2pac never died in 96 or after that, i bet you death row would've carried on thru the 2000's and Snoop wouldn't have left unless he started beef with 2pac...which the 2 were not getting necessarily along at the end as it's been known...Snoop had that radio interview saying he'd work with Biggie
either way Suge did alot more for the business of deathrow than heller did for nwa
I agree with most of what you're saying here, except that it implies that Jerry Heller didn't do much for NWA. I think that line of thinking is a little naive.
Hell yeah,Heller is the shit... first to sign springsteen... managed Marvin Gaye and so on. Dude is a legend.
Hard +1 to both of you, dudes got a fuckload of history in the music biz and did alot for NWA. All I gotta say is Van Morrison...
fuck we go to get past this racial segregation shit >:( >:( >:( >:(
Jew this and that,get the fuck out off here >:( >:( >:( >:(
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LOL @ JEW THIS AND THAT
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haha damn real talk chad you got some comediac sides to you for real
LOL @ JEW THIS AND THAT
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/fisherwy/Rv-yyYpBJlI/AAAAAAAAJQ8/xmRXp66vSXI/Muscular+Parrot%5B2%5D.jpg)
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fuck jews
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fuck jews
lol.
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Dr. Dre is to Death Row what Eazy E is to Ruthless. The epicenter of the label's talent.
Suge Knight is Jerry Heller... just some fat guys who got lucky
nah man those labels are 2 different situations
Dre left and DEath Row still had 2pac and Snoop to hold them afloat....if 2pac never died in 96 or after that, i bet you death row would've carried on thru the 2000's and Snoop would'nt have left unless he started beef with 2pac...which the 2 were not getting necessarily along at the end as it's been known...Snoop had that radio interview saying he'd work with Biggie
either way Suge did alot more for the business of deathrow than heller did for nwa
Wrong After That night in Vega's even if they didn't get shot up, they both would of went down for Parole Violation.That night was fucked up everything do to the cameras.Tupac would go back to jail and his Makaveli album would be released while he's in prison (sorta ironic since some people consider it a Semi-Sequel to Me Against The World). Suge Knight would go to jail for racketeering charges.So without Tupac or Suge Knight, the Label would of fallen into Disarray (though it would still survive, just be a lot weaker).
hahaha ok fortune teller
Its not fortune telling retard, both Suge Knight and Tupac were on Parole (Suge knight, years before for a assault).Even if Anderson didn't press charges the police and the casino will. As such Tupac would be sent back and have to do the rest of his time, and Night (who did go to jail and eventually was brought up on racketeering charges).Its simple as that, that night they were caught on tape breaking the law.Its also possible why Tupac had had sorta Sad face in that picture taken before he as shot.
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Blasphemy
who do you think killed pac?
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haha damn real talk chad you got some comediac sides to you for real
LOL @ JEW THIS AND THAT
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/fisherwy/Rv-yyYpBJlI/AAAAAAAAJQ8/xmRXp66vSXI/Muscular+Parrot%5B2%5D.jpg)
Chad is a gangster ;D 8)
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Dr. Dre is to Death Row what Eazy E is to Ruthless. The epicenter of the label's talent.
Suge Knight is Jerry Heller... just some fat guys who got lucky
nah man those labels are 2 different situations
Dre left and DEath Row still had 2pac and Snoop to hold them afloat....if 2pac never died in 96 or after that, i bet you death row would've carried on thru the 2000's and Snoop would'nt have left unless he started beef with 2pac...which the 2 were not getting necessarily along at the end as it's been known...Snoop had that radio interview saying he'd work with Biggie
either way Suge did alot more for the business of deathrow than heller did for nwa
Wrong After That night in Vega's even if they didn't get shot up, they both would of went down for Parole Violation.That night was fucked up everything do to the cameras.Tupac would go back to jail and his Makaveli album would be released while he's in prison (sorta ironic since some people consider it a Semi-Sequel to Me Against The World). Suge Knight would go to jail for racketeering charges.So without Tupac or Suge Knight, the Label would of fallen into Disarray (though it would still survive, just be a lot weaker).
hahaha ok fortune teller
Its not fortune telling retard, both Suge Knight and Tupac were on Parole (Suge knight, years before for a assault).Even if Anderson didn't press charges the police and the casino will. As such Tupac would be sent back and have to do the rest of his time, and Night (who did go to jail and eventually was brought up on racketeering charges).Its simple as that, that night they were caught on tape breaking the law.Its also possible why Tupac had had sorta Sad face in that picture taken before he as shot.
Depends on whether the tape would suddenly disappear... the only reason why it couldn't was cause of Pac's death. If they were still alive Suge could of payed hush money to get rid of it.. it is Vegas after all and Suge was runnin Vegas at that time with bribes.
Now if Pac stayed alive and the tape did come out it would be likely it would be a violation of the terms of his bail and Pac would go back to jail pending the outcome of the appeal. If he lost the appeal he would serve less than a year in the jail for the "touching of the buttox." Either way Pac would done okay and would been free by late '97. Suge on the other hand would of gotten the same outcome for his parole violation that we all saw.
Then.. you got the possible scenario what would of Pac done in late '97 on Death Row with Suge in jail..
I would roll with the tape disappearing if Pac wasn't shot that night.. looks like we dont have any footage from that part of lobby.. lol
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yes please tell
Blasphemy
who do you think killed pac?
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Dr. Dre is to Death Row what Eazy E is to Ruthless. The epicenter of the label's talent.
Suge Knight is Jerry Heller... just some fat guys who got lucky
nah man those labels are 2 different situations
Dre left and DEath Row still had 2pac and Snoop to hold them afloat....if 2pac never died in 96 or after that, i bet you death row would've carried on thru the 2000's and Snoop would'nt have left unless he started beef with 2pac...which the 2 were not getting necessarily along at the end as it's been known...Snoop had that radio interview saying he'd work with Biggie
either way Suge did alot more for the business of deathrow than heller did for nwa
Wrong After That night in Vega's even if they didn't get shot up, they both would of went down for Parole Violation.That night was fucked up everything do to the cameras.Tupac would go back to jail and his Makaveli album would be released while he's in prison (sorta ironic since some people consider it a Semi-Sequel to Me Against The World). Suge Knight would go to jail for racketeering charges.So without Tupac or Suge Knight, the Label would of fallen into Disarray (though it would still survive, just be a lot weaker).
hahaha ok fortune teller
Its not fortune telling retard, both Suge Knight and Tupac were on Parole (Suge knight, years before for a assault).Even if Anderson didn't press charges the police and the casino will. As such Tupac would be sent back and have to do the rest of his time, and Night (who did go to jail and eventually was brought up on racketeering charges).Its simple as that, that night they were caught on tape breaking the law.Its also possible why Tupac had had sorta Sad face in that picture taken before he as shot.
Depends on whether the tape would suddenly disappear... the only reason why it couldn't was cause of Pac's death. If they were still alive Suge could of payed hush money to get rid of it.. it is Vegas after all and Suge was runnin Vegas at that time with bribes.
Now if Pac stayed alive and the tape did come out it would be likely it would be a violation of the terms of his bail and Pac would go back to jail pending the outcome of the appeal. If he lost the appeal he would serve less than a year in the jail for the "touching of the buttox." Either way Pac would done okay and would been free by late '97. Suge on the other hand would of gotten the same outcome for his parole violation that we all saw.
Then.. you got the possible scenario what would of Pac done in late '97 on Death Row with Suge in jail..
I would roll with the tape disappearing if Pac wasn't shot that night.. looks like we dont have any footage from that part of lobby.. lol
The tape had already reached the media. It was only awhile later people found out he was also shot, but again there was only about 3 ways the night could of gone on. Either the above I mentioned the 1 you mentioned and then how it turned out. Cause this is assuming Tupac was still shot, but even then Suge Knight had no controls when it came to the casino, just with the club 622 and other endeavors.
Anyways, who do I think killed Tupac? Well first off I know for a fucking fact The Las Vegas police didn't give a shit, look at tupac's past songs like Violent and fuck the police in his earlier work already made him strained with the law. Lets also not forget that around the time West Coast Rap had debut and was coming into its own Politicians, Civil Rights leader, anyone not into the scene at the time was against rap. To them tupac was just another rapper a "perpetrator" of violence in their eyes. Look at some of the articles after Tupac's death.
"Rapper who personified Violence dies at 25" I mean with head lines like that, no wonder no one gave a shit. Anyways Because their was no incentive on the LV police end (no Helicopter, No APB) The killers got off free remember his original shooting, calling that a Robbery, He was IN a STUDIO. ok A studio is the safest fucking place ever..
Now people say Suge Knight Killed him, but Suge Knight had no Incentive. Tupac was promoting the hell outta the label, was providing record sells and was helping Death Row East, and was going to have Death Row Distribute Makaveli Records releases (First album was to be the 7 day Theory, second in contract, and then One Nation which would of been his third obligation).I mean he had no need.
People say Tupac was complaining about money, No he wasn't Suge kept his ass happy with cars and such, He never got his TRUE earnings, but honestly I think Tupac wasn't worrying about that as much. Look at all the videos of him in the studios at Death Row. Hes happy, fuck Their is possibly a chance he is grateful for suge knight posting his bail, but again Because we weren't in his head will never know how he truly felt regardless of the count-less documentaries.
Second Theory is Biggie Smalls. This theory Is ludicrous The sells from the Controversy the feud with Tupac was generating amazing sells (mostly do to the hype the media dubbing it "East vs West Coast war"). He had no reason to kill him, and besides I highly doubt his ass would even go the gangster route. He's a rapper not a gangster. Secondly he had no idea that Tupac was to be in Vegas at the time the shooting happened.
Third Theory (this 1 I believe) is Orlando Anderson. This one is credible, Compton Police (with some being on Death Row's payroll as security guards, which was apart of Rampart scandal) have Evidence that Orlando was bragging about the shooting, had the a Glock (the murder weapon) even though Orlando said he never had one. Because Orlando was a Crip (If I remember right) this is what helped spark a small amount of Gang Violence in Compton when Tupac's death was heard.
But you know the code of the streets, you don't say shit. anyways Biggies Dead, Orlandos Dead, and Suge knight lost everything, who ever you think killed him, you can at least say "well he got what was coming to him" or what ever. In the End I think a lot of people are so amazed at his death because of how he died. He had all this shit going on, He was the highest selling rapper in the US at the time (All Eyez Reached the 7 million mark before his death) he was making movie after movie, and had so much stuff going on in his final years and to be taken out like a common civilian is whats amazing.
Him dieing in that Drive-By is what amazed people the most. Dieing, just like everyone else out here is doing. 1 thing I do know, this killing was premeditated, Orlando wasn't there to gamble or see no fight he had no ticket.It being 1 quick retaliation is what it looks like. Its not assassination just premeditated murder for what ever reason the killer wanted.
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Suge Knight is Jerry Heller... just some fat guys who got lucky
he just got lucky by being the man behind the whole label???...alot of luck he had there...
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I hope finally next episode og will released..after so many years.
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Anyways, who do I think killed Tupac? Well first off I know for a fucking fact The Las Vegas police didn't give a shit, look at tupac's past songs like Violent and fuck the police in his earlier work already made him strained with the law. Lets also not forget that around the time West Coast Rap had debut and was coming into its own Politicians, Civil Rights leader, anyone not into the scene at the time was against rap. To them tupac was just another rapper a "perpetrator" of violence in their eyes. Look at some of the articles after Tupac's death.
"Rapper who personified Violence dies at 25" I mean with head lines like that, no wonder no one gave a shit. Anyways Because their was no incentive on the LV police end (no Helicopter, No APB) The killers got off free remember his original shooting, calling that a Robbery, He was IN a STUDIO. ok A studio is the safest fucking place ever..
Pac didn't do "Fuck the Police". That was N.W.A. In regards to the political situation, by 1996, the heat had pretty much died down on that. C. Delores Tucker had even spoke on Suge's behalf when he was going to court for the Orlando Anderson incident. And Pac was not robbed IN a studio. He was robbed in the bottom floor lobby where more or less anyone could be. Studios are not the safest fucking places ever. That is a ridiculous misconception. If you are doing work for a professional label at their in-house studio then that would more or less be a safe place because they would have hired security to keep the wrong element out but we are not talking about that. There have been countless situations in New York where robberies, beatdowns, etc. have gone down. Jam Master Jay was murdered inside a studio. 50 Cent had the incident with Black Child and them at the Hit Factory studio. In the case of Quad Studios, it was pretty clear that Pac was going down there as a favor for an artist with a limited bdget so it wasn't like he was walking into some "safe haven".
Now people say Suge Knight Killed him, but Suge Knight had no Incentive. Tupac was promoting the hell outta the label, was providing record sells and was helping Death Row East, and was going to have Death Row Distribute Makaveli Records releases (First album was to be the 7 day Theory, second in contract, and then One Nation which would of been his third obligation).I mean he had no need.
People say Tupac was complaining about money, No he wasn't Suge kept his ass happy with cars and such, He never got his TRUE earnings, but honestly I think Tupac wasn't worrying about that as much. Look at all the videos of him in the studios at Death Row. Hes happy, fuck Their is possibly a chance he is grateful for suge knight posting his bail, but again Because we weren't in his head will never know how he truly felt regardless of the count-less documentaries.
I have my doubts about the Suge scenerio myself but your info sounds like it was pulled directly from a Suge interview. How do you know Pac wasn't complaining about money? You saw a video or an interview? I've got news for you. A lot went down in those last couple days. I'm not implying that Suge was behind it because it seems a bit wild that anyone would sit in the driver's seat while bullets were being fired at the guy in the passenger's seat. However, I have seen enough interviews from sources not connected to Death Row to suggest that Pac might not have been too happy with his situation in those days. We have never heard Pac do a negative interview or song on Snoop but we know when the radio shit happened in NYC, Pac was fucking pissed. Snoop has confirmed this. Suge downplayed it when Snoop was still signed to the label but once he left, it became "Pac hated Snoop and I was riding with Pac". Michael Moore, one of Pac's bodyguards that weekend, said he had to physically remove Pac from Suge's room during a very heated argument when the two met up after Pac heard the Snoop interview and quoted Pac as saying, "I'm leaving Death Row." We also know that Pac fired David Kenner, the attorney for Death Row, a few weeks prior. There's record of it.
Again, I'm not claiming to have all the facts but there is quite a bit of information to suggest that there is more to the story than everyone is seeing.
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Pac didn't do "Fuck the Police". That was N.W.A. In regards to the political situation, by 1996, the heat had pretty much died down on that. C. Delores Tucker had even spoke on Suge's behalf when he was going to court for the Orlando Anderson incident. And Pac was not robbed IN a studio. He was robbed in the bottom floor lobby where more or less anyone could be. Studios are not the safest fucking places ever. That is a ridiculous misconception. If you are doing work for a professional label at their in-house studio then that would more or less be a safe place because they would have hired security to keep the wrong element out but we are not talking about that. There have been countless situations in New York where robberies, beatdowns, etc. have gone down. Jam Master Jay was murdered inside a studio. 50 Cent had the incident with Black Child and them at the Hit Factory studio. In the case of Quad Studios, it was pretty clear that Pac was going down there as a favor for an artist with a limited bdget so it wasn't like he was walking into some "safe haven".
You think the flack he caught was just in his earlier years??? Look at "Wonder why they call you bitch" lyrics, he takes shoots at Delores Tucker. only Reason she helped Suge was because of Tupac's Death. You know how people get when Death Is involved, they get all fucking soft and sympathetic.Besides didn't need to be a political situation police don't like rap in general because of how the lyrics are towards police.That's why Biggies murder wasn't solved, when they know the killers name. Now I know it was the lobby (If I remember correctly, he had Gone Up after the shooting cause he was dazed out somewhat) but the point is, Honestly Do you think someones going to accidentally rob 1 of the rising stars of rap??? Then again we shouldn't even speak on that night cause its speculation. Pure Speculation, Only one who knows are the parties involved, I believe the guy who got shot though.
I have my doubts about the Suge scenerio myself but your info sounds like it was pulled directly from a Suge interview. How do you know Pac wasn't complaining about money? You saw a video or an interview? I've got news for you. A lot went down in those last couple days. I'm not implying that Suge was behind it because it seems a bit wild that anyone would sit in the driver's seat while bullets were being fired at the guy in the passenger's seat. However, I have seen enough interviews from sources not connected to Death Row to suggest that Pac might not have been too happy with his situation in those days. We have never heard Pac do a negative interview or song on Snoop but we know when the radio shit happened in NYC, Pac was fucking pissed. Snoop has confirmed this. Suge downplayed it when Snoop was still signed to the label but once he left, it became "Pac hated Snoop and I was riding with Pac".
Well Suge Knight is obviously lying if hes saying shit like that. Only thing Tupac had a problem with was when Snoop said he liked B.I.G.s music. They never worked it out do to his death.But like I said well never know Tupac's true feelings, cause none-of us are not him and none of the documentaries by his friends are just what they think. The Point is Suge Knight had no motive to kill him cause of all the stuff that was going to happen.Besides Tupac couldn't even leave "if" he wanted to. He was still undercontract for 2 more albums. Makaveli 7 Day Theory was to be Makaveli Records first release (proof by the Makaveli Logo on the back) and One Nation was suppose to be his third, So it didn't even matter "if" Tupac wanted to leave, he had 2 more albums out of him. He released Makaveli as planned, but One Nation never got a release cause of the legal matters and aftermath.
Michael Moore, one of Pac's bodyguards that weekend, said he had to physically remove Pac from Suge's room during a very heated argument when the two met up after Pac heard the Snoop interview and quoted Pac as saying, "I'm leaving Death Row." We also know that Pac fired David Kenner, the attorney for Death Row, a few weeks prior. There's record of it.
Never trust Michael Moore, that asshole just trying to make money off Tupac's Legacy. Look at his retarded ass Tupac Assassination movies, and then the rebuttals, that and the contradict his earlier statements.Some say "oh, but with him hearing what his friends saw he's allowed to do that" No he isn't his original version is his least distorted, its the 1 he saw, anyways. I don't Trust him cause he's not keeping his shit straight. Here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuDIT-LWwg4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfJjK1H43Jc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfJjK1H43Jc)
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Never trust Michael Moore. Look at his retarded ass movies.
never a truer word spoken
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Dr. Dre is to Death Row what Eazy E is to Ruthless. The epicenter of the label's talent.
Suge Knight is Jerry Heller... just some fat guys who got lucky
nah man those labels are 2 different situations
Dre left and DEath Row still had 2pac and Snoop to hold them afloat....if 2pac never died in 96 or after that, i bet you death row would've carried on thru the 2000's and Snoop would'nt have left unless he started beef with 2pac...which the 2 were not getting necessarily along at the end as it's been known...Snoop had that radio interview saying he'd work with Biggie
either way Suge did alot more for the business of deathrow than heller did for nwa
lol!
if it weren't for Jerry Heller, NWA would have never gotten a distribution deal for example
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Dr. Dre is to Death Row what Eazy E is to Ruthless. The epicenter of the label's talent.
Suge Knight is Jerry Heller... just some fat guys who got lucky
nah man those labels are 2 different situations
Dre left and DEath Row still had 2pac and Snoop to hold them afloat....if 2pac never died in 96 or after that, i bet you death row would've carried on thru the 2000's and Snoop would'nt have left unless he started beef with 2pac...which the 2 were not getting necessarily along at the end as it's been known...Snoop had that radio interview saying he'd work with Biggie
either way Suge did alot more for the business of deathrow than heller did for nwa
lol!
if it weren't for Jerry Heller, NWA would have never gotten a distribution deal for example
Even though I'm not a fan of either, I'm not a hater. Jerry and suge were 1 in the same basically. Dr. Dre traded one stealer for another when he left. Both Jerry and Suge Got them Distribution deals (Ruth, Priority via Jerry, and Death Row, Inters cope via Suge Knight).
In the end Jerry original took the money from the group along with Eazy at the time and at the end was found to have taken money from eazy.
In the end it was found Suge Knight had shafted multiple artist, producers, etc. On proper royalties.
Sorta fucked how each 1 pretty much the same and really they both had their own way to get things done.
Jerry The Jewish Defense League for bodyguards, and protection
Suge Knight, Hired street gangsters and L.A. off-Duty cops which became apart of Rampart
Jerry Used Contracts and Shiftiness to attain his money & deals which were Iron Clad
Suge Knight used more Strong Armed Tactics to attain his money and deals, and eventually figured out Time-Based Iron Clad Contracts.
In the end, these two did a lot to both help and hurt rap.
If it wasn't for Jerry's stealing we wouldn't get Ice Cubes earlier Effects like "Amerkkka's Most Wanted","Kill At Will", "Death Certificate","The Predator", and Lethal Injection may not come to ingratiation. Considering if Jerry didn't steal we wouldn't of had The Chronic being made for Death Row.
If it wasn't for Suge Knight, we wouldn't have the Death Row releases we have today (DoggyStyle was nearly canceled) We wouldn't have The Chronic, DoggyStyle, Dogg Chit, All Eyez, Makaveli, etc.
Because what these people did they both helped rap and hurt it in a lot of ways. Its almost like Paradox on the effects of what West Coast could of been, was, and is. In the end I have respect for both of them, but because of how they "hurt" rap a lot of albums may of never gotten made but so many possibles could of happened. . In the end its a bastard to be on either side of the fence. So I have respect, but when it comes to certain exploits. I don't got now love.
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Dr. Dre is to Death Row what Eazy E is to Ruthless. The epicenter of the label's talent.
Suge Knight is Jerry Heller... just some fat guys who got lucky
nah man those labels are 2 different situations
Dre left and DEath Row still had 2pac and Snoop to hold them afloat....if 2pac never died in 96 or after that, i bet you death row would've carried on thru the 2000's and Snoop would'nt have left unless he started beef with 2pac...which the 2 were not getting necessarily along at the end as it's been known...Snoop had that radio interview saying he'd work with Biggie
either way Suge did alot more for the business of deathrow than heller did for nwa
lol!
if it weren't for Jerry Heller, NWA would have never gotten a distribution deal for example
Even though I'm not a fan of either, I'm not a hater. Jerry and suge were 1 in the same basically. Dr. Dre traded one stealer for another when he left. Both Jerry and Suge Got them Distribution deals (Ruth, Priority via Jerry, and Death Row, Inters cope via Suge Knight).
In the end Jerry original took the money from the group along with Eazy at the time and at the end was found to have taken money from eazy.
In the end it was found Suge Knight had shafted multiple artist, producers, etc. On proper royalties.
Sorta fucked how each 1 pretty much the same and really they both had their own way to get things done.
Jerry The Jewish Defense League for bodyguards, and protection
Suge Knight, Hired street gangsters and L.A. off-Duty cops which became apart of Rampart
Jerry Used Contracts and Shiftiness to attain his money & deals which were Iron Clad
Suge Knight used more Strong Armed Tactics to attain his money and deals, and eventually figured out Time-Based Iron Clad Contracts.
In the end, these two did a lot to both help and hurt rap.
If it wasn't for Jerry's stealing we wouldn't get Ice Cubes earlier Effects like "Amerkkka's Most Wanted","Kill At Will", "Death Certificate","The Predator", and Lethal Injection may not come to ingratiation. Considering if Jerry didn't steal we wouldn't of had The Chronic being made for Death Row.
If it wasn't for Suge Knight, we wouldn't have the Death Row releases we have today (DoggyStyle was nearly canceled) We wouldn't have The Chronic, DoggyStyle, Dogg Chit, All Eyez, Makaveli, etc.
Because what these people did they both helped rap and hurt it in a lot of ways. Its almost like Paradox on the effects of what West Coast could of been, was, and is. In the end I have respect for both of them, but because of how they "hurt" rap a lot of albums may of never gotten made but so many possibles could of happened. . In the end its a bastard to be on either side of the fence. So I have respect, but when it comes to certain exploits. I don't got now love.
agree on almost everything you said...
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Dr. Dre is to Death Row what Eazy E is to Ruthless. The epicenter of the label's talent.
Suge Knight is Jerry Heller... just some fat guys who got lucky
nah man those labels are 2 different situations
Dre left and DEath Row still had 2pac and Snoop to hold them afloat....if 2pac never died in 96 or after that, i bet you death row would've carried on thru the 2000's and Snoop would'nt have left unless he started beef with 2pac...which the 2 were not getting necessarily along at the end as it's been known...Snoop had that radio interview saying he'd work with Biggie
either way Suge did alot more for the business of deathrow than heller did for nwa
lol!
if it weren't for Jerry Heller, NWA would have never gotten a distribution deal for example
Even though I'm not a fan of either, I'm not a hater. Jerry and suge were 1 in the same basically. Dr. Dre traded one stealer for another when he left. Both Jerry and Suge Got them Distribution deals (Ruth, Priority via Jerry, and Death Row, Inters cope via Suge Knight).
In the end Jerry original took the money from the group along with Eazy at the time and at the end was found to have taken money from eazy.
In the end it was found Suge Knight had shafted multiple artist, producers, etc. On proper royalties.
Sorta fucked how each 1 pretty much the same and really they both had their own way to get things done.
Jerry The Jewish Defense League for bodyguards, and protection
Suge Knight, Hired street gangsters and L.A. off-Duty cops which became apart of Rampart
Jerry Used Contracts and Shiftiness to attain his money & deals which were Iron Clad
Suge Knight used more Strong Armed Tactics to attain his money and deals, and eventually figured out Time-Based Iron Clad Contracts.
In the end, these two did a lot to both help and hurt rap.
If it wasn't for Jerry's stealing we wouldn't get Ice Cubes earlier Effects like "Amerkkka's Most Wanted","Kill At Will", "Death Certificate","The Predator", and Lethal Injection may not come to ingratiation. Considering if Jerry didn't steal we wouldn't of had The Chronic being made for Death Row.
If it wasn't for Suge Knight, we wouldn't have the Death Row releases we have today (DoggyStyle was nearly canceled) We wouldn't have The Chronic, DoggyStyle, Dogg Chit, All Eyez, Makaveli, etc.
Because what these people did they both helped rap and hurt it in a lot of ways. Its almost like Paradox on the effects of what West Coast could of been, was, and is. In the end I have respect for both of them, but because of how they "hurt" rap a lot of albums may of never gotten made but so many possibles could of happened. . In the end its a bastard to be on either side of the fence. So I have respect, but when it comes to certain exploits. I don't got now love.
did Ice Cube recently release Gangsta Fairytale 3 or what?
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this year will be great for the death row collectors
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^^^
for real...
I'm speechless.
Cube and Dre really got heads beliving all that Jew bashing.
(http://assets2.snsassets.com/images/books/9781416937920.jpg)
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^^^
for real...
I'm speechless.
Cube and Dre really got heads beliving all that Jew bashing.
(http://assets2.snsassets.com/images/books/9781416937920.jpg)
A must read, Jerry was hella loyal to Eazy...
Still trips me that he thinks he coulda made Bone go 10x Plat, and I actually agree he prolly could of, Heller was a genius
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Anyways, who do I think killed Tupac? Well first off I know for a fucking fact The Las Vegas police didn't give a shit, look at tupac's past songs like Violent and fuck the police in his earlier work already made him strained with the law. Lets also not forget that around the time West Coast Rap had debut and was coming into its own Politicians, Civil Rights leader, anyone not into the scene at the time was against rap. To them tupac was just another rapper a "perpetrator" of violence in their eyes. Look at some of the articles after Tupac's death.
"Rapper who personified Violence dies at 25" I mean with head lines like that, no wonder no one gave a shit. Anyways Because their was no incentive on the LV police end (no Helicopter, No APB) The killers got off free remember his original shooting, calling that a Robbery, He was IN a STUDIO. ok A studio is the safest fucking place ever..
Pac didn't do "Fuck the Police". That was N.W.A. In regards to the political situation, by 1996, the heat had pretty much died down on that. C. Delores Tucker had even spoke on Suge's behalf when he was going to court for the Orlando Anderson incident. And Pac was not robbed IN a studio. He was robbed in the bottom floor lobby where more or less anyone could be. Studios are not the safest fucking places ever. That is a ridiculous misconception. If you are doing work for a professional label at their in-house studio then that would more or less be a safe place because they would have hired security to keep the wrong element out but we are not talking about that. There have been countless situations in New York where robberies, beatdowns, etc. have gone down. Jam Master Jay was murdered inside a studio. 50 Cent had the incident with Black Child and them at the Hit Factory studio. In the case of Quad Studios, it was pretty clear that Pac was going down there as a favor for an artist with a limited bdget so it wasn't like he was walking into some "safe haven".
Now people say Suge Knight Killed him, but Suge Knight had no Incentive. Tupac was promoting the hell outta the label, was providing record sells and was helping Death Row East, and was going to have Death Row Distribute Makaveli Records releases (First album was to be the 7 day Theory, second in contract, and then One Nation which would of been his third obligation).I mean he had no need.
People say Tupac was complaining about money, No he wasn't Suge kept his ass happy with cars and such, He never got his TRUE earnings, but honestly I think Tupac wasn't worrying about that as much. Look at all the videos of him in the studios at Death Row. Hes happy, fuck Their is possibly a chance he is grateful for suge knight posting his bail, but again Because we weren't in his head will never know how he truly felt regardless of the count-less documentaries.
I have my doubts about the Suge scenerio myself but your info sounds like it was pulled directly from a Suge interview. How do you know Pac wasn't complaining about money? You saw a video or an interview? I've got news for you. A lot went down in those last couple days. I'm not implying that Suge was behind it because it seems a bit wild that anyone would sit in the driver's seat while bullets were being fired at the guy in the passenger's seat. However, I have seen enough interviews from sources not connected to Death Row to suggest that Pac might not have been too happy with his situation in those days. We have never heard Pac do a negative interview or song on Snoop but we know when the radio shit happened in NYC, Pac was fucking pissed. Snoop has confirmed this. Suge downplayed it when Snoop was still signed to the label but once he left, it became "Pac hated Snoop and I was riding with Pac". Michael Moore, one of Pac's bodyguards that weekend, said he had to physically remove Pac from Suge's room during a very heated argument when the two met up after Pac heard the Snoop interview and quoted Pac as saying, "I'm leaving Death Row." We also know that Pac fired David Kenner, the attorney for Death Row, a few weeks prior. There's record of it.
Again, I'm not claiming to have all the facts but there is quite a bit of information to suggest that there is more to the story than everyone is seeing.
lil offtopic:
i'm not Snoops big fan but i never undersood that part. Why Pac would be mad at Snoop for that while himself he was working
with Ruthless acts like Kokane & Bone Thugs. They wasnt at good terms at that times with Dogg Pound right? I dont think Snoop was trippin because of this
"What I would do if I was you is shut your fuckin' mouth
cause we be moving keys while you're playin house" - Above The Law - Encore 1996
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^^^
for real...
I'm speechless.
Cube and Dre really got heads beliving all that Jew bashing.
(http://assets2.snsassets.com/images/books/9781416937920.jpg)
A must read, Jerry was hella loyal to Eazy...
Still trips me that he thinks he coulda made Bone go 10x Plat, and I actually agree he prolly could of, Heller was a genius
no doubt, i believe Dre missed out on some great business opportunities, when he ran away
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Without Dr. Dre there is no Death Row Records.
are you serious?fuck dre and his gay ass fake-pimp friends like snoopy bitch.
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unreleased RBX album on Death Row? Kilo,that's bullshit right?
Not B/S. Lol. RBX, despite how much he would have not like to have made the decision to join Death Row, still has quite a bit of material considering he didn't get to leave till 1994 or 1995.
+1 OK,thanks for the info. What about Warren G,K-Solo and Rage (is it tracks from eargasm?)?
Any info on who did the beats for RBX´s Death Row project? Greg Royal (produced RBX-files) worked on The Chronic,so maybe he was set to work with RBX?
Not sure, but I know Gregski/Greg Royal did immense work on it since he also did his retail album. Too bad RBX hasn't worked with him in years. Warren G doesn't have an album over there I believe due to him landing the Def Jam deal, but he might have material. K-Solo has an incomplete album over there, and Rage has an incomplete album over there too.
Greg Royal is a mystery to me,he worked on The Chronic. Then did RBX´s album,after that he only did random work here and there.
Who brought him aboard? Dre? Chris Taylor? Colin Wolfe? who?
Not sure, I would have thought Dre did since he was the one who brought along Colin and Chris.
I will ask Colin next time I speak with him.
Found a little Greg Royal info;
Mixmaster Gee And The Turntable Orchestra
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Mixmaster+Gee+And+The+Turntable+Orchestra
http://www.youtube.com/v/9QJQHn8Tx6A&hl=en_US&fs=1
Releases:
Like This (12") MCA Records 1985
The Manipulator ◄ (4 versions) MCA Records 1986
Conflicts Of Interest (Vinyl, EP) Greg Ski Cuts 1987
Tracks Appear On:
Street Sounds Hip Hop Electro 14 (Comp) ◄ (2 versions) The Manipulator (Exten... Street Sounds 1986
Street Sounds Crucial Electro 3 (Comp) ◄ (2 versions) The Manipulator Street Sounds 1987
Scratchology (2xLP) Like This (Full & Fresh) Sequence Records 2003
Scratchology ◄ (2 versions) Like This (Full & Fresh) Sequence Records 2003
and
Mixmaster Gee And The Turntable Orchestra - Conflicts Of Interest
http://www.discogs.com/Mixmaster-Gee-The-Turntable-Orchestra-Conflicts-Of-Interest/release/1925459
(http://www.discogs.com/image/R-1925459-1253112800.jpeg)
(http://www.discogs.com/image/R-1925459-1253112560.jpeg)
Label:
Greg Ski Cuts
Catalog#:
GSC - 5008
Format:
Vinyl, EP
Country:
US
Released:
1987
Genre:
Electronic, Hip Hop
Style:
Electro
TracklistA1 Mixmaster Gee And The Turntable Orchestra - Rip It Off 5:20
A2 Mixmaster Gee And The Turntable Orchestra - Loud & Clear 5:36
A3 Ramon Ski - Stupid Def 5:48
B1 Ricky Byars - It's All For You 5:34
B2 Glenda Marie - Just A Little Bit Of Love 4:18
B3 Cherry Soda - Bombs Come Down 5:55
Credits
Producer - Greg Royal , Ricardo Moore , Ricky Byars
Notes
Private Pressing By Greg "Ski" Royal Aka Mixmaster Gee & The Turntable Orchestra On His Own Label.
300 Copies Pressed
Full 12'' Mixmaster Gee And The Turntable Orchestra - The Manipulator [MCA Inc.-1986]
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ulFp3Vwsf54/SyJtgid3XBI/AAAAAAAAAjQ/j75y8GY1YXk/s200/R-43294-1106520542.jpg)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/21fvz0
A1 The Manipulator (Extended Version)
A2 The Manipulator (Radio Edit)
B1 The Manipulator (Dub Version)
B2 The Manipulator (Instrumental)
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Without Dr. Dre there is no Death Row Records.
are you serious?fuck dre and his gay ass fake-pimp friends like snoopy bitch.
I´m sure there could have been a Death Row without Dre, but it would most certainly not be the legendary label that it became, without him.
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Without Dr. Dre there is no Death Row Records.
are you serious?fuck dre and his gay ass fake-pimp friends like snoopy bitch.
Took a combo, Suge Knight, Dre, Snoop, and that's about it. lol Literally...Even with The Dogg Pound, both Dre and Snoops album were the original start ups. With there genre defining sounds, styles, and appeal. Dogg Pound didn't sell as much nor reached as much acclaim (Still very dope and Up 2 Par IMO) eventually 2pac joined, and brought the Label into even more Notoriety (along with Suges Criminal tactics coming to light) with his Feud with Biggie and various others (Not East vs. West, just couple of rappers feuding, nothing more nothing less). All Eyez on Me Reached 7 Million while 2pac was alive, and was already the highest selling Death Row album. Snoop Dogg's "Dogg Father" signaled the End of the area. With his Mafiaso Rap (A east coast born style) being released a via a West Coast Label known mostly for G-Funk and Gangsta Rap. Going only Double Plat, 2pac's Makaveli Album would go 4 Plat, and after that nothing else charted.
Anyways getting off topic.
The point is, it took a combination of the 3 to make the label successful. Suge, to get Dre released from his contract. Dre, to make The Chronic's Production, and Snoop to give it its Signature Lazy Drawl laid back style.
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Without Dr. Dre there is no Death Row Records.
are you serious?fuck dre and his gay ass fake-pimp friends like snoopy bitch.
Took a combo, Suge Knight, Dre, Snoop, and that's about it. lol Literally...Even with The Dogg Pound, both Dre and Snoops album were the original start ups. With there genre defining sounds, styles, and appeal. Dogg Pound didn't sell as much nor reached as much acclaim (Still very dope and Up 2 Par IMO) eventually 2pac joined, and brought the Label into even more Notoriety (along with Suges Criminal tactics coming to light) with his Feud with Biggie and various others (Not East vs. West, just couple of rappers feuding, nothing more nothing less). All Eyez on Me Reached 7 Million while 2pac was alive, and was already the highest selling Death Row album. Snoop Dogg's "Dogg Father" signaled the End of the area. With his Mafiaso Rap (A east coast born style) being released a via a West Coast Label known mostly for G-Funk and Gangsta Rap. Going only Double Plat, 2pac's Makaveli Album would go 4 Plat, and after that nothing else charted.
Anyways getting off topic.
The point is, it took a combination of the 3 to make the label successful. Suge, to get Dre released from his contract. Dre, to make The Chronic's Production, and Snoop to give it its Signature Lazy Drawl laid back style.
interscope was interested because of Dre.