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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: GoodLuvn169 on July 18, 2004, 04:14:31 PM
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Would you have the U.S. cut their aid to Israel in favor of Palestine, or stay out of the matter all together? I believe the U.S. shouldn't give foreign aid to either. If someone has such strong passions and beliefs about what goes on over there they can get on a plane fly over there and fight for what they believe in.
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I believe the U.S. shouldn't give foreign aid to either
I agree. Do you know how much in aid each side receives?
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I'm not sure but I know it's much more to Israel.
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I'm not sure but I know it's much more to Israel.
http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/1297/9712043.html
Check that out. You may be surprised.
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I'm not sure but I know it's much more to Israel.
http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/1297/9712043.html
Check that out. You may be surprised.
Thanks. I'm reading it right now
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This sums it up:
"On this basis the $84.8 billion in grants, loans and commodities Israel has received from the U.S. since 1949 cost the U.S. an additional $49,936,880,000 in interest."
"Even excluding all of these extra costs, America's $84.8 billion in aid to Israel from fiscal years 1949 through 1998, and the interest the U.S. paid to borrow this money, has cost U.S. taxpayers $134.8 billion, not adjusted for inflation. Or, put another way, the nearly $14,630 every one of 5.8 million Israelis received from the U.S. government by Oct. 31, 1997 has cost American taxpayers $23,240 per Israeli."
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Well since Israel is so far ahead of the game with all the shit they've gotten over the years, you kinda would want it even, and even if there was no more aid for israel, it wouldnt be even but it would be better than nothing, so bassicly, id rather have israel get rid of all of the "war gifts" from the US and and cut the aid. but no i would not rather have them aid palestine, cause then the palestinians would try to wipe them out and the violence would never stop.
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Well since Israel is so far ahead of the game with all the shit they've gotten over the years, you kinda would want it even, and even if there was no more aid for israel, it wouldnt be even but it would be better than nothing, so bassicly, id rather have israel get rid of all of the "war gifts" from the US and and cut the aid. but no i would not rather have them aid palestine, cause then the palestinians would try to wipe them out and the violence would never stop.
If you gave Palestine more aid it would still try to wipe Israel out but more expensively
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Well since Israel is so far ahead of the game with all the shit they've gotten over the years, you kinda would want it even, and even if there was no more aid for israel, it wouldnt be even but it would be better than nothing, so bassicly, id rather have israel get rid of all of the "war gifts" from the US and and cut the aid. but no i would not rather have them aid palestine, cause then the palestinians would try to wipe them out and the violence would never stop.
If you gave Palestine more aid it would still try to wipe Israel out but more expensively
I think that's what Global was saying, and I agree, neither side should receive aid to fight. If anything, help Palestinian refugees, and those whose entire towns have been blown to pieces.
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Well since Israel is so far ahead of the game with all the shit they've gotten over the years, you kinda would want it even, and even if there was no more aid for israel, it wouldnt be even but it would be better than nothing, so bassicly, id rather have israel get rid of all of the "war gifts" from the US and and cut the aid. but no i would not rather have them aid palestine, cause then the palestinians would try to wipe them out and the violence would never stop.
If you gave Palestine more aid it would still try to wipe Israel out but more expensively
I think that's what Global was saying, and I agree, neither side should receive aid to fight. If anything, help Palestinian refugees, and those whose entire towns have been blown to pieces.
At most help the refugees. But if you help the refugees help the refugees on all sides
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word help the israeli refugees pack up their bags and leave the area. Go back to Russia.
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basically noone is too wrong in this thread. and it's already 10 replies long. that's maybe a new record.
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basically noone is too wrong in this thread. and it's already 10 replies long. that's maybe a new record.
take a look at who hasnt posted here yet.
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As regards to the thread, the comparisons between Israel and the Palestinians on equal footing is incorrect.
The Americans have helped the Israelis rape the Palestinians over the last 50 years, and now you wanna debate whether u should continue helping the pillage? The equal alternative being to do nothing to both sides? Let the Israelis zip their pants up and walk away, and let the Palestinians crawl into some corner?
If this world was based on justice, there would be no Israel.
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word help the israeli refugees pack up their bags and leave the area. Go back to Russia.
LMAO.
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At most help the refugees. But if you help the refugees help the refugees on all sides
Are you talking about those Israelis that have been kicked out of their Palestinian homeland? If not, then please tell us what the hell you're saying because at the moment it seems like you're talking out of your ass.
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Would you have the U.S. cut their aid to Israel in favor of Palestine, or stay out of the matter all together? I believe the U.S. shouldn't give foreign aid to either. If someone has such strong passions and beliefs about what goes on over there they can get on a plane fly over there and fight for what they believe in.
Exactly. By the way, you sound like a Libertarian.
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Would you have the U.S. cut their aid to Israel in favor of Palestine, or stay out of the matter all together? I believe the U.S. shouldn't give foreign aid to either. If someone has such strong passions and beliefs about what goes on over there they can get on a plane fly over there and fight for what they believe in.
Exactly. By the way, you sound like a Libertarian.
I know I sound like a Libertarian
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We give about the same amount of money to Israel as we do Egypt.
I'd much rather give money to the only true democracy in the middle east than money to a corrupt leadership who can't effectively rule their own people and supports terrorism.
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why do we give money to anyone??
i mean i can see us giving money to a developing country revovering one, or a 3rd world one like Chad or soemthing but on the real wouldn't America be better off if we gave at least half of that back to americans and american programs
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I'd much rather give money to the only true democracy in the middle east than money to a corrupt leadership who can't effectively rule their own people and supports terrorism.
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We give about the same amount of money to Israel as we do Egypt.
I'd much rather give money to the only true democracy in the middle east than money to a corrupt leadership who can't effectively rule their own people and supports terrorism.
egypt is in desperate need of political reform
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We give about the same amount of money to Israel as we do Egypt.
I'd much rather give money to the only true democracy in the middle east than money to a corrupt leadership who can't effectively rule their own people and supports terrorism.
We give Egypt about two-thirds of what we give Israel; however, there's an interesting fact to accompany this. From 1953-1979, the amount of aid given to Egypt was $4.2 billion. After Egypt made peace with Israel in 1979, the aid has become $45.6 billion. So basically, we use our taxes to pay Israelis, but on top of that our money is also being sent to any country that is Israel's friend. Israel is getting quite expensive.
"On this basis the $84.8 billion in grants, loans and commodities Israel has received from the U.S. since 1949 cost the U.S. an additional $49,936,880,000 in interest."
I think we could've used SOME of that money here at home instead of paying for the army of another country. Why does Israel get so much money so easily, yet California has to go through some bullshit to get some?
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Why does Israel get so much money so easily, yet California has to go through some bullshit to get some?
Apples and Oranges.
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Why does Israel get so much money so easily, yet California has to go through some bullshit to get some?
Apples and Oranges.
You missed the point; we could use a lot of that money here at home because it's way too much to be handing to another country when we have problems to take care of here at home.
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Lets retract all aid from both sides and let them figure out this situation for themselves.