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If I Don't Like Mainstream...
« on: November 01, 2003, 01:42:15 PM »
Why do I like artists such as: The Neptunes, Clipse, Nore, Luda, P.Diddy, Da Band, Chingy, Baby, Lil Wayne etc.? Just because I talk bad about 50, Em, Dre and Snoop don't mean I hate the mainstream. It means I got a mind of my own.
 

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Re:If I Don't Like Mainstream...
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2003, 04:23:49 PM »
It means I got a mind of my own.

u got the answer right there.. not exactly as u put it though.. shoulda said "because it makes me feel I have a mind of my own, listening to hated on artists like Neptunes, P. Diddy and the whole south"

Dre, Em, 50, Snoop all get props.. so u gotta hate em.. god knows why
 

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Re:If I Don't Like Mainstream...
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2003, 04:28:13 PM »

u got the answer right there.. not exactly as u put it though.. shoulda said "because it makes me feel I have a mind of my own, listening to hated on artists like Neptunes, P. Diddy and the whole south"

Dre, Em, 50, Snoop all get props.. so u gotta hate em.. god knows why
Neptunes are hated? Really...Only on this board I guess. Diddy gets props, maybe not from you, but from a lot of people he does. The South, well damn I've been a South fan since the early 90's so let's get off that tip. Dre is OK, but he's getting lame. Em has NO replay value and destroyed himself with the gunplay lyrics. 50, haven't liked that scumbag since I first heard "How To Rob" on The Wake Up Show back in 99, again, get off that tip. Snooper Dooper, well he's booty. Everyone knows it. But, he's still popular.

I don't need to "feel" that I have a mind of my own, I know I do. I don't need to follow what the next man says, I dictate what I like. Just because WCC says someones dope, don't mean I think so. Only a few cats on here are like that. Lincoln and Hatesrats, pretty much.
 

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Re:If I Don't Like Mainstream...
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2003, 04:32:19 PM »
the things most rapfans like, you hate and the things most rapfans hate or dont give a flyin fuck about, you like. nice concept. that makes you different. wow.
so... Congratulations...  you are a real unique person !!!!!
now who's gonna fuck wit that?
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Cause I don't care where I belong no more
What we share or not I will ignore
And I won't waste my time fitting in
Cause I don't think contrast is a sin
No, it's not a sin
 

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Re:If I Don't Like Mainstream...
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2003, 04:35:29 PM »
the things most rapfans like you hate, the things most rapfans hate or dont give a flyin fuck about you like. nice concept. that makes you different.
so... Congratulations...  you are a real unique person !!!!!
who's gonna fuck wit that?
You're saying most rap fans don't like the South? Is that why Lil Jon is the best producer out right now? Is that why the Neptunes and Timbaland are some of the biggest producers around? Is that why Luda, Lil Flip, Baby and others from the South sell so much? Oh right. WCC hates the South. WCC must equal most rap fans  ::)
 

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Re:If I Don't Like Mainstream...
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2003, 04:42:42 PM »
Neptunes are hated? Really...Only on this board I guess. Diddy gets props, maybe not from you, but from a lot of people he does. The South, well damn I've been a South fan since the early 90's so let's get off that tip. Dre is OK, but he's getting lame. Em has NO replay value and destroyed himself with the gunplay lyrics. 50, haven't liked that scumbag since I first heard "How To Rob" on The Wake Up Show back in 99, again, get off that tip. Snooper Dooper, well he's booty. Everyone knows it. But, he's still popular.

I don't need to "feel" that I have a mind of my own, I know I do. I don't need to follow what the next man says, I dictate what I like. Just because WCC says someones dope, don't mean I think so. Only a few cats on here are like that. Lincoln and Hatesrats, pretty much.

p.diddy and the neptunes are generally hated by most people who refer to themselves as 'hiphop heads' such as alotta people on internet boards.. it's for sure not just dubcc

how would u know that people who like Dre, Em and 50 like em cuz wcc says they dope..?

Lincoln and Haterats are just 2 guys u often agree with and as for Lincoln's part who disslike 50 and Em as u do.. not sure about Haterats, he doesn't seem that sure about it himself sometimes

sayin they are the only ones with a mind od their own cuz u share alot of opinions with em is stupid

as for Em, u talk like it's a fact he ain't got no replay value.. there're millions of people bumpin his music so he obviously does.. if u can't stand it that's ur thang but he got skills and u can't use that "replay value" argument cuz that's just ur opinion/taste
 

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Re:If I Don't Like Mainstream...
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2003, 04:50:05 PM »


p.diddy and the neptunes are generally hated by most people who refer to themselves as 'hiphop heads' such as alotta people on internet boards.. it's for sure not just dubcc

how would u know that people who like Dre, Em and 50 like em cuz wcc says they dope..?

Lincoln and Haterats are just 2 guys u often agree with and as for Lincoln's part who disslike 50 and Em as u do.. not sure about Haterats, he doesn't seem that sure about it himself sometimes

sayin they are the only ones with a mind od their own cuz u share alot of opinions with em is stupid

as for Em, u talk like it's a fact he ain't got no replay value.. there're millions of people bumpin his music so he obviously does.. if u can't stand it that's ur thang but he got skills and u can't use that "replay value" argument cuz that's just ur opinion/taste
I talk to plenty of Hip Hop Heads, they got a lot of love for The Neptunes. The people who hate Neptunes hate them for the same fact they accuse me of hating 50/Dre, becuase they're successful. Diddy gets props from anyone who looks at his business sense. He's one of the best business men to touch Hip Hop. He gets nothing but respect from me for that.

So, you know what? If I'm a hater, then so are you and everyone else who hates Diddy, Neptunes and Chingy.

Lincoln and Hatesrats say what they feel, and I respect that. I usually don't see the same from others.

Eminem has NO replay value TO ME. That's enough reason for me not to like him. If I can't bump your music more than twice, then it's not that good. As an emcee he's overrated. He has a dope rhyme scheme, but his content is redundant. He talks about the same bullshit time and time again. I'm tired of hearing how he hates his mom. It's real fucking annoying. I'm tired of hearing about Kim. Switch up topics sometimes. And, now that Em is the number 1 studio thug, it's even worse. A majority of his beats are full of "bullet" sounds. He's always talking about how he's gonna kill this person and stomp someone else. What happened to the Em who was having fun on the mic? People say he's became mature, well if talking about blasting people is mature, then I guess they're right.
 

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Re:If I Don't Like Mainstream...
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2003, 05:04:02 PM »
I talk to plenty of Hip Hop Heads, they got a lot of love for The Neptunes. The people who hate Neptunes hate them for the same fact they accuse me of hating 50/Dre, becuase they're successful. Diddy gets props from anyone who looks at his business sense. He's one of the best business men to touch Hip Hop. He gets nothing but respect from me for that.

So, you know what? If I'm a hater, then so are you and everyone else who hates Diddy, Neptunes and Chingy.

Lincoln and Hatesrats say what they feel, and I respect that. I usually don't see the same from others.

Eminem has NO replay value TO ME. That's enough reason for me not to like him. If I can't bump your music more than twice, then it's not that good. As an emcee he's overrated. He has a dope rhyme scheme, but his content is redundant. He talks about the same bullshit time and time again. I'm tired of hearing how he hates his mom. It's real fucking annoying. I'm tired of hearing about Kim. Switch up topics sometimes. And, now that Em is the number 1 studio thug, it's even worse. A majority of his beats are full of "bullet" sounds. He's always talking about how he's gonna kill this person and stomp someone else. What happened to the Em who was having fun on the mic? People say he's became mature, well if talking about blasting people is mature, then I guess they're right.

well it doesn't make much sense if we both talk about the hiphop fans we know that hate/respect those people we hate/respect that's why I judge it considering to whatit's like on the net.. cuz I can prove it/u know it which ain't the case when we talkin about who we know personally..
so if u think it's only dubcc who hates em, maybe u feel like u have to be the one to make it fair or something by hatin on the ones who get (in ur opinion too much) love and showin love to the ones u consider underrated/that are hated on

anyway the reason I don't like P.Diddy very much for is that I don't see rapping skills or like his style as for his own music and I don't feel most of the music he gets into the charts.. mostly RnB affiliated.. as for the neptunes i don't feel em that much, they got some dope bets but it's not my style and I hate pharrel for his voice and everything as an artist

and that's why I ignore most threads about em.. I don't come in and start hatin every opportunity there is(n't).. that's why I'm still not a hater
 

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Re:If I Don't Like Mainstream...
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2003, 05:10:25 PM »


well it doesn't make much sense if we both talk about the hiphop fans we know that hate/respect those people we hate/respect that's why I judge it considering to whatit's like on the net.. cuz I can prove it/u know it which ain't the case when we talkin about who we know personally..

I'm talking about real life heads. Not some kid on the net. But, on SOHH I remember seeing Diddy and The Neptunes getting props, a lot.

so if u think it's only dubcc who hates em, maybe u feel like u have to be the one to make it fair or something by hatin on the ones who get (in ur opinion too much) love and showin love to the ones u consider underrated/that are hated on

I don't hate on them, I just point out the double standards and contradictions in all the Shady/Aftermath fans. They hate on people like Ja, but 50 will do the exact same thing.

anyway the reason I don't like P.Diddy very much for is that I don't see rapping skills or like his style as for his own music and I don't feel most of the music he gets into the charts.. mostly RnB affiliated.. as for the neptunes i don't feel em that much, they got some dope bets but it's not my style and I hate pharrel for his voice and everything as an artist

You don't see rapping skills in Diddy, so why do you like Dre? Neither of them write their own lyrics. Double standard? Perhaps. As for the Neptunes, they're a real dope production crew. They knocked out so many hits, it's not funny. Pharrel is a dope artist, his voice makes him unique, and his outlook on the world and music industry is what makes me a fan.

and that's why I ignore most threads about em.. I don't come in and start hatin every opportunity there is(n't).. that's why I'm still not a hater

So, I'm a hater if I express my dislike for someone? That's a shame. I guess you're not allowed to talk freely then. I guess I should just bite my tongue, since it gets me labeled as a hater.  ::)
 

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Re:If I Don't Like Mainstream...
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2003, 05:16:09 PM »
...You don't see rapping skills in Diddy, so why do you like Dre? Neither of them write their own lyrics...

LoL! Although they both don't write their own lyrics, I see a lil' difference between Diddy's voice/flow/delivery and Dre's ::) He's on a WAY higher level as emcee, even if he needs ghostwriters.
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Re:If I Don't Like Mainstream...
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2003, 05:25:47 PM »


LoL! Although they both don't write their own lyrics, I see a lil' difference between Diddy's voice/flow/delivery and Dre's ::) He's on a WAY higher level as emcee, even if he needs ghostwriters.
LMAO @ Way higher level. Dre's flow is coo, nothing more. Diddy ain't that much worse than Dre.
 

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Re:If I Don't Like Mainstream...
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2003, 05:31:44 PM »


well it doesn't make much sense if we both talk about the hiphop fans we know that hate/respect those people we hate/respect that's why I judge it considering to whatit's like on the net.. cuz I can prove it/u know it which ain't the case when we talkin about who we know personally..

I'm talking about real life heads. Not some kid on the net. But, on SOHH I remember seeing Diddy and The Neptunes getting props, a lot.

so if u think it's only dubcc who hates em, maybe u feel like u have to be the one to make it fair or something by hatin on the ones who get (in ur opinion too much) love and showin love to the ones u consider underrated/that are hated on

I don't hate on them, I just point out the double standards and contradictions in all the Shady/Aftermath fans. They hate on people like Ja, but 50 will do the exact same thing.

anyway the reason I don't like P.Diddy very much for is that I don't see rapping skills or like his style as for his own music and I don't feel most of the music he gets into the charts.. mostly RnB affiliated.. as for the neptunes i don't feel em that much, they got some dope bets but it's not my style and I hate pharrel for his voice and everything as an artist

You don't see rapping skills in Diddy, so why do you like Dre? Neither of them write their own lyrics. Double standard? Perhaps. As for the Neptunes, they're a real dope production crew. They knocked out so many hits, it's not funny. Pharrel is a dope artist, his voice makes him unique, and his outlook on the world and music industry is what makes me a fan.

and that's why I ignore most threads about em.. I don't come in and start hatin every opportunity there is(n't).. that's why I'm still not a hater

So, I'm a hater if I express my dislike for someone? That's a shame. I guess you're not allowed to talk freely then. I guess I should just bite my tongue, since it gets me labeled as a hater.  ::)

I don't feel like arguing about how hated they are /are not fact is on dubcc they are which might be a reason for u defend em

u do hate without a doubt and u bringin them in every topic.. and u're tryin to find double standards .. u tried to see a double standard when I said dissing people that hard just for attention is pathetic when I already admitted it's pathetic for everybody inlcueding 50.. when I asked u where the double standard is at u just didn't answer no more LoL..

I like Dre's rapping style and he got a dope flow.. if u disagree let's not talk about it now, fact is I like his voice and style so i like his rapping..

Nelly is unique too, still wack.. I can't stand pharrel's voice but that doesn't matter  what matters is I'm not a hater for the reasons I already mentioned


lol there's a slightly difference bewteen "not bitin ones tongue" and doing what u do..

of course u should be able to express ur opinion on a board but the fact is everybody knows this opinion for ages and u repeat the same shit over and over again and u bring em up whenever u can and u open threads about em and so on.. ur obsessed with telling everybody what a talentless fake 50 and how overrated em is.. let it go for once and concentrate on something u like
 

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Re:If I Don't Like Mainstream...
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2003, 05:37:50 PM »
...LMAO @ Way higher level. Dre's flow is coo, nothing more. Diddy ain't that much worse than Dre.

"Dre's flow is coo" and Puffy's flow is ridiculous ::) Dre's voice is tight and Puffy's voice is unbearable ::) ...

BTW: Did you know that Puffy doesn't even choose his own flow for his parts? G. Dep once said in an interview that either Black Rob or G. Dep himself has to record Diddy's parts before he's recordin' them, so that he recognizes how to flow right. I don't know why Dep said this (Puffy is still his CEO and this fact made him look more stupid than the biggest hater expected), but he DEFINITELY said it (if you want I'll search the article [was from a German hip-hop magazine] and translate it, so that you can see it).

So as you can see: Puffy is the shit fo' sure :o ::)
 

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Re:If I Don't Like Mainstream...
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2003, 09:49:42 PM »
Thanks for the props SGV. I feel what you saying with that not going along with the masses. For example, no one was talking shit about Ja until they found out 50 dissed him. And they didn't find out about him til Em signed him. That's one of literally dozens of examples of going with the masses I see on this forum.

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Re:If I Don't Like Mainstream...
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2003, 10:01:53 PM »
I don't understand either why people always gotta hate on whos on top. I don't hate on lil jon because he is big right now i hate on him because Vanilla Ice has better lyrics\flow..I understand the cool thing to do is hate people people who are doing shit. But at least I don't see Eminem workin with B2k and a shitload of RNB singers..He is doing his own shit. To say he is a studio thug is stupid..Every single rapper says they would do shit that they never would do in real life..DO u really think Brotha Lynch eats babies or Necro sayin hes gonna kill everybody. If any rapper did the shit they said in there songs. Every one of them would be rotting in jail..SO everybody is studio thugs I guess