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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: infinite59 on August 10, 2002, 12:00:01 PM
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1. I was taught about how great the Beatles and Beathoven were in music class, but hip-hop had been written out of America's musical history.
2. I was taught about how great Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks were, but never taught about Malcolm X or Huey P. Newton.
3. I was taught about George Washington Carver making peanuts but never taught about Nat Turner leading a revolutionary slave rebellion that was on the cusp of freeing the whole south.
4. I was taught about David Karesh but never taught about how Elijah Muhammad transformed the lives of 35,000 black people in America.
5. I was taught about the disgusting displays of religious ignorance in the Salam Witch Trials but never taught about how Islamic and Chinese civilizations were world leaders for nearly 700 years.
6. I was told why capatalism and democracy were the greatest systems, without even allowing us the oppurtunity to compare it to communism, socialism, collectivism, proletarianism.
7. I was taught about how Jesus and Christianity captured the minds of countries far and near, but I had never heard of Muhammad ibn Abdullah or about Islam spreading with similar success.
8. I was taught about Martin Luther and the Crusades for Christ(Christendom) and religious expansion, but denied the knowledge of similar Islamic conquests by 12th century Muslim general Salah Al Din who threw those crusaders back and recaptured Jerusalam.
9. I was taught of the Roman Catholic Church but never of the significance of the Ottoman Empire.
10. I was taught about writers like Shakespeare who wrote passively of love, and never taught about Richard Wright and James Baldwin who wrote with strong conviction about revolution and justice.
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As you can see I was denied a proper education in school, my education was grafted and skewed, and in the same respect the view of myself and my potential upon leaving highschool was limited. Because I knew nothing of the world or my potential in it.
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That's messed up man. Alot of what you mentioned I was actually exposed too in school at least (like Malcom X, Ottoman Empire, gov't systems, etc). I wouldn't say I was actually "educated" but exposed yes.
Educators are wary of teaching history about Islam, but hopefully that will change and people will recieve more education about it in the coming years.
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you live in a mostly christian country - deal with it. you are a minority (even within your own faith).
you'd never learn that stuff in an islamic country either. they'd probably kill or ransom you for being a westerner.
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you live in a mostly christian country - deal with it. you are a minority (even within your own faith).
you'd never learn that stuff in an islamic country either. they'd probably kill or ransom you for being a westerner.
I can't get with or comprehend that tough self-effacing "deal with it" type of rhetoric... what the fuck does that mean anyway? I dealt with the shit, and I didn't like it, so what's your point?
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Love ya Overseer, but really in American, minorities don't know how to deal with it. It's our history, we take shit for awhile, then we fight back. The U.S. had slavery for hundreds of years, but 90 of them well under the U.S. government, then slaves said enough. Later women stepped up, then later all minorities in the 1960's, and now after 9-11, I see a lot more Muslim influice, and more Islamic issues being brought up. It's time for the U.S. to wake up to it, and I think it is.
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Love ya Overseer, but really in American, minorities don't know how to deal with it. It's our history, we take shit for awhile, then we fight back. The U.S. had slavery for hundreds of years, but 90 of them well under the U.S. government, then slaves said enough. Later women stepped up, then later all minorities in the 1960's, and now after 9-11, I see a lot more Muslim influice, and more Islamic issues being brought up. It's time for the U.S. to wake up to it, and I think it is.
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so what if that wasn't brought to your attention in school. i bet if i went back in time and asked ur class 'mates' if they wanted to know that shit they'd say 'HELL NO', get over it. u know it all now, that's the wonders of growing up. and thanks to the internet u can get the infomation a LOT easier then school woulda been able to. u don't think that they're education curriculum (sp) ain't full enough???
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That's true. Most of my education comes from outside of school anyways.
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here is what you missed from overseer's post...
in the US we dont educate throughly on the things u mentioned but they were all touched on in my HS...
however if u were in a muslim country, the thought of teaching western ideas is frowned opon heavily they go to great lengths to keep their people from learning our culture....
so you have no arguement, the us might not be the most liberal country but we are def more so than countries of muslim faith... its fact
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1. I was taught about how great the Beatles and Beathoven were in music class, but hip-hop had been written out of America's musical history.
2. I was taught about how great Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks were, but never taught about Malcolm X or Huey P. Newton.
3. I was taught about George Washington Carver making peanuts but never taught about Nat Turner leading a revolutionary slave rebellion that was on the cusp of freeing the whole south.
4. I was taught about David Karesh but never taught about how Elijah Muhammad transformed the lives of 35,000 black people in America.
5. I was taught about the disgusting displays of religious ignorance in the Salam Witch Trials but never taught about how Islamic and Chinese civilizations were world leaders for nearly 700 years.
6. I was told why capatalism and democracy were the greatest systems, without even allowing us the oppurtunity to compare it to communism, socialism, collectivism, proletarianism.
7. I was taught about how Jesus and Christianity captured the minds of countries far and near, but I had never heard of Muhammad ibn Abdullah or about Islam spreading with similar success.
8. I was taught about Martin Luther and the Crusades for Christ(Christendom) and religious expansion, but denied the knowledge of similar Islamic conquests by 12th century Muslim general Salah Al Din who threw those crusaders back and recaptured Jerusalam.
9. I was taught of the Roman Catholic Church but never of the significance of the Ottoman Empire.
10. I was taught about writers like Shakespeare who wrote passively of love, and never taught about Richard Wright and James Baldwin who wrote with strong conviction about revolution and justice.
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As you can see I was denied a proper education in school, my education was grafted and skewed, and in the same respect the view of myself and my potential upon leaving highschool was limited. Because I knew nothing of the world or my potential in it.
1. You're an idiot.
2. I was. Maybe you were asleep. P.s. You're an idiot.
3. I was. Maybe you were thinking about killing yourself at the time. I concede to my previous salutation ^^
4. I wasn't taught about either one, maybe I was talking with girls (*GASP! I know you have a problem with me associating with women)... Usted es un idiota
5. That's because you took school in America. Amazingly, they taught you more u.s. history... they didn't realize that a young 'finite was contemplating moving to Afganistan and joining the Taliba... oh nevermind, I got you confused with that other guy again. MEIN OH-! Sie Sind Ein Idiot!
6. That's because half the other kids were too stupid to even understand the basic fundamentals of Democracy. Why confuse them with all the other ocracies, when it's useless information that only draft dodgers would need to know about anyways? The u.s. is a democracy, it doesn't MATTER if it's the best. Le Français vous considérerait également un idiot, mon ennemi excessivement négatif.
7. That's because the government was founded, and has always been ran, by Christians. What do you expect? You learn about Religion in church. In history, naturally you're going to learn about christian sprawl because it's how OUR country was founded, remember? Creo a burro sería una palabra apropiada, esse.
8. Well, you still found out about it. Please read #7 again. Study it. Learn it. Live by it. idi.. nevermind, that's getting mean.
Why don't you bitch a little more about your FREE education, you prick. We all care. Show a little gratitude that you're not living on the streets, and actually have a degree, whether you value it or not. People like you are a disgrace, please, please, move, get the hell out of the country. I'm sure you'll find your kids much better served educationally in india or somewhere.
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1. You're an idiot.
2. I was. Maybe you were asleep. P.s. You're an idiot.
3. I was. Maybe you were thinking about killing yourself at the time. I concede to my previous salutation ^^
4. I wasn't taught about either one, maybe I was talking with girls (*GASP! I know you have a problem with me associating with women)... Usted es un idiota
5. That's because you took school in America. Amazingly, they taught you more u.s. history... they didn't realize that a young 'finite was contemplating moving to Afganistan and joining the Taliba... oh nevermind, I got you confused with that other guy again. MEIN OH-! Sie Sind Ein Idiot!
6. That's because half the other kids were too stupid to even understand the basic fundamentals of Democracy. Why confuse them with all the other ocracies, when it's useless information that only draft dodgers would need to know about anyways? The u.s. is a democracy, it doesn't MATTER if it's the best. Le Français vous considérerait également un idiot, mon ennemi excessivement négatif.
7. That's because the government was founded, and has always been ran, by Christians. What do you expect? You learn about Religion in church. In history, naturally you're going to learn about christian sprawl because it's how OUR country was founded, remember? Creo a burro sería una palabra apropiada, esse.
8. Well, you still found out about it. Please read #7 again. Study it. Learn it. Live by it. idi.. nevermind, that's getting mean.
Why don't you bitch a little more about your FREE education, you prick. We all care. Show a little gratitude that you're not living on the streets, and actually have a degree, whether you value it or not. People like you are a disgrace, please, please, move, get the hell out of the country. I'm sure you'll find your kids much better served educationally in india or somewhere.
DARTH THAT SHIT WAS SAID PERFECTLY, AND BESIDES THIS MOTHERFUCKER IS A FUCKIN' WHITE BOY, HE DIDN'T NOR HE HAS BEEN OPPRESSED, REGARDLESS IF HE IS A FAKE ASS MUSLIM. EVERYTHING HE GOT HAS ITS FOUNDATION OF NATIVE AMERICAN GENOCIDE AND AFRICAN GENOCIDE AND SLAVERY. I'M TELLIN' YOU HE DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT ISLAM AND HE WISHES HE WAS BLACK, HE HAS NO IDEA HOW GOOD HE HAS IT, MAYBE HE SHOULD OF SQUEEZED THE TRIGGER WHEN IT WAS IN HIS HANDS, IF HE CAME TO MY HOOD, I OR ANY OF OUR PEOPLE WOULD OF ROBBED HIS ASS FIRST (OF COURSE) THEN POPPED A CAP, OR BEAT HIS ASS SO BAD HE WOULD OF THOUGHT HE WAS A TALIBAN.
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MAYBE HE SHOULD OF SQUEEZED THE TRIGGER WHEN IT WAS IN HIS HANDS, IF HE CAME TO MY HOOD
Even though Infinite is a fucker and people dont like his views (myself included), Thats a fucked up thing to say...
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Why don't you bitch a little more about your FREE education, you prick. We all care. Show a little gratitude that you're not living on the streets, and actually have a degree, whether you value it or not. People like you are a disgrace, please, please, move, get the hell out of the country. I'm sure you'll find your kids much better served educationally in india or somewhere.
word... not many countries have a free education system, if they have one at all.
dumb down the masses so they dont understand the games people play.
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DARTH THAT SHIT WAS SAID PERFECTLY, AND BESIDES THIS MOTHERFUCKER IS A FUCKIN' WHITE BOY, HE DIDN'T NOR HE HAS BEEN OPPRESSED, REGARDLESS IF HE IS A FAKE ASS MUSLIM. EVERYTHING HE GOT HAS ITS FOUNDATION OF NATIVE AMERICAN GENOCIDE AND AFRICAN GENOCIDE AND SLAVERY. I'M TELLIN' YOU HE DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT ISLAM AND HE WISHES HE WAS BLACK, HE HAS NO IDEA HOW GOOD HE HAS IT, MAYBE HE SHOULD OF SQUEEZED THE TRIGGER WHEN IT WAS IN HIS HANDS, IF HE CAME TO MY HOOD, I OR ANY OF OUR PEOPLE WOULD OF ROBBED HIS ASS FIRST (OF COURSE) THEN POPPED A CAP, OR BEAT HIS ASS SO BAD HE WOULD OF THOUGHT HE WAS A TALIBAN.
Chill out man
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Yeah, I agree, that's taking it a little too far.
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DARTH THAT SHIT WAS SAID PERFECTLY, AND BESIDES THIS MOTHERFUCKER IS A FUCKIN' WHITE BOY, HE DIDN'T NOR HE HAS BEEN OPPRESSED, REGARDLESS IF HE IS A FAKE ASS MUSLIM. EVERYTHING HE GOT HAS ITS FOUNDATION OF NATIVE AMERICAN GENOCIDE AND AFRICAN GENOCIDE AND SLAVERY. I'M TELLIN' YOU HE DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT ISLAM AND HE WISHES HE WAS BLACK, HE HAS NO IDEA HOW GOOD HE HAS IT, MAYBE HE SHOULD OF SQUEEZED THE TRIGGER WHEN IT WAS IN HIS HANDS, IF HE CAME TO MY HOOD, I OR ANY OF OUR PEOPLE WOULD OF ROBBED HIS ASS FIRST (OF COURSE) THEN POPPED A CAP, OR BEAT HIS ASS SO BAD HE WOULD OF THOUGHT HE WAS A TALIBAN.
uh yeah? and your fake thug ass should stop talkin shit on the net cuz you wouldnt have the nuts to say that to me infinite or any muslim on the board.....dumbass....go eat george bush dick