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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Trauma-san on August 12, 2002, 07:15:52 PM
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Yall, Infinite has deceived you. This guy is a first class prick, and I refuse to fight with him anymore. So, this'll be the last post where I even acknowledge his existance. For months, I've bit my tounge while this ass said whatever he wants, but today, I'm done with him. I'm not gonna be patient anylonger, and I know I'm "giving up' on trying to be nice to him, or whatever, and it's "not what Jesus would do" , but I'm not Jesus. I'm not perfect, and I can't get along with everybody.
Some of the stuff this guy has said has really gotten under my skin over the past year or so, and I've come to the decision that he's basically evil. LOL. Simple as that. Here's why.
1. His constant bashing of america. He refuses to give any props to any of the government figures, and criticises everything he can think of. Why didn't he mention the awesome work Bush did after sept. 11th in reuniting the country? Why didn't he mention all the great humanitarian work the government does all around the world, INCLUDING afganistan? Why doesn't he mention ANYTHING positive about the country? Because he's against anything positive, he's evil.
2. His constant barrage of questions and attacks regarding christianity. How many threads have I, a christian, started attacking Muslims? 0. How many threads has Infinite started about Christians? Dozens. Sure, it's harmless questions, right? Well then why does he ask the same questions over and over again? How many times has he questioned the trinity, or Jesus's divineship? How many times has he stated Christians took a man and made him a god? How many times has he said that Christ never said he was the son of god? How many times has he asked about some issue of Christianity, knowing full well he wasn't curious about the religion, but just looking for another way to slam it? That's deeply offensive to me, and i'm sure to others. Maybe i'm prudish, but if somebody has problems with people getting together and worshipping god, then they must be against god. He's evil.
3. His support or lack of condemnation of the suicide attacks in israel, as well as the world trade center tragedy. This asshole even went so far as to say publicly on the board, several times, that he was "Proud of his muslim brothers" who flew the planes into the world trade center. Evil.
4. His general ignorance on everything. Sure, that doesn't make him evil, but it makes it impossible to hold a conversation with. Everybody's got different opinions, and that's great. But when one party (infinite) only sees the negative of everyting, he's always looking for the bad in things, and ignoring the good. He's always assuming bad is going on, and downplaying good. He highlights evil, and ignores good and righteousness. When have you seen a positive post on this board from him? Never. He's influenced by evil, LOL. Not that he's satan or anything, no, Satan would actually make up his OWN mind, instead of just disagreeing with everyone else. He's just got a clouded mind, he needs to snap out of it. Just my opinion.
BTW, this is in no way a bash at Muslims. I love muslims, and members of any religion that worships the 1 god, as well as those who choose not to worship god. It has nothing to do with religion, it's just that this guy is confused... he's the next John Walker, and i'm not kidding, and I'm not joking. If he was intelligent enough to convince other people he's right, he'd end up doing something stupid. I could honestly see Infinite strapping a bomb on and walking into a synagogue, because he thought it was the 'right' thing to do. And I'm not kidding, I think he's dangerous, because he's chronically negative.
But then again. I could be wrong.
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Well, Infinites been my Net Homie for a long time, he's a cool guy...I really dont think he's a bad person...I'm seeing him at Powerhouse in 2 weeks...But if any of that shit u said about him being anti-Jew and Pro-sucied bombers/terrorists than fuck that shit...PeAcE
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I'm just stating what I think about him, since he likes to state what he thinks about my religion. Peace~
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But then again. I could be wrong.
You are correct.
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I'm just stating what I think about him, since he likes to state what he thinks about my religion. Peace~
word. i agree with everything T has said.
on point 4, the simple fact is he's biggotted . is 'muslim' brothers stuck up for him when i raised it, but the fact is he's biggotted and their 'brotherhood' is blinding the vision.
classic example.. (from the 'what am i' thread)
What has influenced your refusal to denounce the God's of other religions? I have never heard of that concept before. This is what has my grill muzzled, and mind confused like it's working 3-dimensional puzzles, I can't come to terms with what you are, because it's like your seeing double.
here he couldnt understand why I wouldnt belittle. (in fact the opposite)... he couldnt understand why i wouldnt dismiss other peoples "gods" as being false etc.
the action of belittling other peoples gods *is* bigotry, he is a bigot. (you call it ignorant.. maybe its that too). but the simple fact is he's a BIGOT.
infinite needs to learn tollerance and understanding. he believes his way is the only way and anyone else is wrong. needs some inter-personal skills. wont ever be able to hold a relationship together with such an attitude.
at the moment he comes across as selfish/self interested, bigotted and ignorant.
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from the sounds of it, Infinite is an asshole... but maybe i could be wrong... LoL
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I came on here for a few days a couple of weeks ago and aint infinite the same dude who was cryin that some other dude was a bigot or a racist and i think he's in the nation of islam or something. I got tired of reading the constant bullshit, but i think infinite has some knowledge like all of us, but there is a little amount he knows about islam, he said he joined islam a year ago, so it sounds like he really don't know a whole lot about islam. it was funny when him and dude were arguing back and forth but he was real defensive when ever color came into practice. in fact i'll say i learned more about christianity on here than i did when i use to go to church regularly. all religions have their problems but as long as fools try to be peaceful and tolerate each other it'll be a better place to live, but shit black people need reparations, better and equal education, etc. etc. will it happen? not anytime soon.
anyway i thought this topic was good but i think infinite needs to stop being a hipocrite and run to the administrators on this board when hes not being patted on the back. and if there is so many folks who don't agree with his bashin' why is he a moderator? i thought moderators were un-biased and play the devils advocate to both sides to keep debates equal? most of these moderators dont do that.
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I got luv for u Trauma, u may not think so, but i do
i respect u alot
but i gotta disagree wit ya....
I think Infinites one of the most knowledgable heads here. He speaks the shit, some of yall minds cant comprehend.
Yall see the world in Black and White, and when some dude speaks on the Grey yall become confused.
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Yall, Infinite has deceived you. This guy is a first class prick, and I refuse to fight with him anymore. So, this'll be the last post where I even acknowledge his existance. For months, I've bit my tounge while this ass said whatever he wants, but today, I'm done with him. I'm not gonna be patient anylonger, and I know I'm "giving up' on trying to be nice to him, or whatever, and it's "not what Jesus would do" , but I'm not Jesus. I'm not perfect, and I can't get along with everybody.
Kept quiet for two months? Would you like me to pull out the thread about Nas where you maliciously try to make me out to be a racist because I quoted Nas as saying "nigga"? Or the threads where you call me ignorant, unintelligent, and evil because I don't like classical music. You've never "kept quiet."
Some of the stuff this guy has said has really gotten under my skin over the past year or so, and I've come to the decision that he's basically evil. LOL. Simple as that. Here's why.
You wasted a great deal of time an energy on that psychology degree. And it frustrates you when your brief, narrow vision of eternal truth does not allow you to understand all of what I do. So therefore, in your ignorance, you denounce me as evil.
1. His constant bashing of america. He refuses to give any props to any of the government figures, and criticises everything he can think of. Why didn't he mention the awesome work Bush did after sept. 11th in reuniting the country? Why didn't he mention all the great humanitarian work the government does all around the world, INCLUDING afganistan? Why doesn't he mention ANYTHING positive about the country? Because he's against anything positive, he's evil.
In more then one thread, I have give props to America for it's diversity, and even explained how America is unique for aboloshing slavery, because that hasn't happened in other countries. And I encouraged people to buy Dinesh D'souza's book "What's So Great About America" so they could learn the posotive virtues of America.
2. His constant barrage of questions and attacks regarding christianity. How many threads have I, a christian, started attacking Muslims? 0. How many threads has Infinite started about Christians? Dozens. Sure, it's harmless questions, right? Well then why does he ask the same questions over and over again? How many times has he questioned the trinity, or Jesus's divineship? How many times has he stated Christians took a man and made him a god? How many times has he said that Christ never said he was the son of god? How many times has he asked about some issue of Christianity, knowing full well he wasn't curious about the religion, but just looking for another way to slam it? That's deeply offensive to me, and i'm sure to others. Maybe i'm prudish, but if somebody has problems with people getting together and worshipping god, then they must be against god. He's evil.
I invite anyone on this forum to go and look at the threads, still on the first page, about the trinity and other Christian concepts, and you will see that I give Trauma props in those threads for the knowledge that he dropped on the subject.
3. His support or lack of condemnation of the suicide attacks in israel, as well as the world trade center tragedy. This asshole even went so far as to say publicly on the board, several times, that he was "Proud of his muslim brothers" who flew the planes into the world trade center. Evil.
Now who is the one telling lies? I challenge you, and I will put this on Allah, that I did not say I was proud of the Muslims who drove into the towers on Sept. 11th, or proud of the suicide bombers. If I did anything I tried to explain why they would have done such a terrible crime, but it upsets you when I explain this, because you don't like hearing that America may have been somewhat responsible, you don't like feeling guilty.
4. His general ignorance on everything. Sure, that doesn't make him evil, but it makes it impossible to hold a conversation with. Everybody's got different opinions, and that's great. But when one party (infinite) only sees the negative of everyting, he's always looking for the bad in things, and ignoring the good. He's always assuming bad is going on, and downplaying good. He highlights evil, and ignores good and righteousness. When have you seen a positive post on this board from him? Never. He's influenced by evil, LOL. Not that he's satan or anything, no, Satan would actually make up his OWN mind, instead of just disagreeing with everyone else. He's just got a clouded mind, he needs to snap out of it. Just my opinion.
I have made a large number of threads praising Allah and praising Islam. Praising figures like Malcolm X, Na'im Akbar and even non-Muslims like Eldridge Cleaver. Those threads are very posotive threads. Yet, you are terribly uncultured, and in your ignorance you see these as negetive.
BTW, this is in no way a bash at Muslims. I love muslims, and members of any religion that worships the 1 god, as well as those who choose not to worship god. It has nothing to do with religion, it's just that this guy is confused... he's the next John Walker, and i'm not kidding, and I'm not joking. If he was intelligent enough to convince other people he's right, he'd end up doing something stupid. I could honestly see Infinite strapping a bomb on and walking into a synagogue, because he thought it was the 'right' thing to do. And I'm not kidding, I think he's dangerous, because he's chronically negative.
I will continue to exist in spite of your hatred. I am prepared to deal with the hatred that exists in you, but you are not prepared to deal with me when I defend myself from your baseless invective.
But then again. I could be wrong.
There is no doubt that you are wrong. Very, very wrong. May Allah guide you. Assalamulakum. (1 God)
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I have made a large number of threads praising Allah and praising Islam. Praising figures like Malcolm X, Na'im Akbar and even non-Muslims like Eldridge Cleaver. Those threads are very posotive threads. Yet, you are terribly uncultured, and in your ignorance you see these as negetive.
I will continue to exist in spite of your hatred. I am prepared to deal with the hatred that exists in you, but you are not prepared to deal with me when I defend myself from your baseless invective.
There is no doubt that you are wrong. Very, very wrong. May Allah guide you. Assalamulakum. (1 God)
yo infinite what do you know about Dr. Akbar. Would you consider him racist since he deals with Psychology of African Americans and how whites have been the cause of many issues of africans in this country?
you say you praise muslims and non-muslims and use black figures, but since you are not black I find it strange that you have at least on this internet gravitate to black figures who don't have the same philosphies and ideals like you, but i remember you blastin' some dude cause he was down with the nation. not knowing that the nation of islam has done more black folks than any other institution/organziation in the world, that's just the truth, but white folks especially young white kids can't fathom such truth being on the outside looking in.
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Now who is the one telling lies? I challenge you, and I will put this on Allah, that I did not say I was proud of the Muslims who drove into the towers on Sept. 11th, or proud of the suicide bombers. If I did anything I tried to explain why they would have done such a terrible crime, but it upsets you when I explain this, because you don't like hearing that America may have been somewhat responsible, you don't like feeling guilty.
When I asked you if you were even proud of the muslims who flew into the WTC, you said... "I am proud of all my muslim brothers". How were we supposed to take that? Don't believe me, then look it up.
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yo infinite what do you know about Dr. Akbar. Would you consider him racist since he deals with Psychology of African Americans and how whites have been the cause of many issues of africans in this country?
you say you praise muslims and non-muslims and use black figures, but since you are not black I find it strange that you have at least on this internet gravitate to black figures who don't have the same philosphies and ideals like you, but i remember you blastin' some dude cause he was down with the nation. not knowing that the nation of islam has done more black folks than any other institution/organziation in the world, that's just the truth, but white folks especially young white kids can't fathom such truth being on the outside looking in.
You said Na'im Akbar isn't the same as me, but yet, he was a close associate of Sunni Muslim leader Wallace Muhammad who is a Sunni Muslim, I am a Sunni Muslim, my beliefs in Islam paralell the the beliefs of Na'im Akbar described in such books as "The Natural Psychology of Human Transformation."
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oh infinite i don't know a whole lot about islam, but all the msulim brothers and sisters i know don't cuss or use profanity, but since you sayin' you a true and real muslim (whatever that is) then why on other posts like the nwa, rakim allah (i guess he ain't a real muslim cuz he down with the nation, huh) vs mozart you are using profanity a lot. I read where even Malcolm x said that if you must use profanity, you have a limited vocabulary, so since you go around praising malcolm X, then why don't you heed his words.
Just a thought.
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oh infinite i don't know a whole lot about islam, but all the msulim brothers and sisters i know don't cuss or use profanity, but since you sayin' you a true and real muslim (whatever that is) then why on other posts like the nwa, rakim allah (i guess he ain't a real muslim cuz he down with the nation, huh) vs mozart you are using profanity a lot. I read where even Malcolm x said that if you must use profanity, you have a limited vocabulary, so since you go around praising malcolm X, then why don't you heed his words.
Just a thought.
I entered Islam to learn knowledge, discipline, and to reach for my full potential. Simply "not cussing" has not ever been mentioned once in all my reading of the Qu'ran.
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i hate when people put the spotlight on Muslims like we supposed to be the only people that are supposed to do good.;
" oh i though muslims dont swear, smoke, fuck etc etc"
fool, christians aint supposed to do that either, no one denounces them. damn, man we all humans!
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this thread aint about the 'muslim brotherhood' its about a brother... i mean.. white guy.. damn nearly got confused there myself! :o
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You said Na'im Akbar isn't the same as me, but yet, he was a close associate of Sunni Muslim leader Wallace Muhammad who is a Sunni Muslim, I am a Sunni Muslim, my beliefs in Islam paralell the the beliefs of Na'im Akbar described in such books as "The Natural Psychology of Human Transformation."
Well I knew you were going to use the islamic defense but the key word there is WAS, he isn't no longer a close associate of WarithDeen Mohammed (that's how he spelled it).
But his beliefs and yours might parallel in one book, but he wouldn't agree with your indoctrinated sunni beliefs at least in reading "Chains and Images of Psychological slavery" and the Community of Self"
Oh and I doubt you can even comprehend what he revealed "Light from Ancient Africa"
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i hate when people put the spotlight on Muslims like we supposed to be the only people that are supposed to do good.;
" oh i though muslims dont swear, smoke, fuck etc etc"
fool, christians aint supposed to do that either, no one denounces them. damn, man we all humans!
yea all i know is that these socalled muslims that say they are true be selling pork, liquor, and cigarettes all over the hood. if they was back in the middle east even touching pork is considered sin. they are also married, but be hittin' up the sistas for sexual favors all the time, but yall say farakhan and them are fake, but i don't see that here in the hood, but since non of yall are black and can really come into the projects and see what's up, yall would use some bullshit excuse like that, but yall say yall true muslims, yea okay
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I entered Islam to learn knowledge, discipline, and to reach for my full potential. Simply "not cussing" has not ever been mentioned once in all my reading of the Qu'ran.
is it mentioned in the koran to have as much sex with a family member under the age of 18 as possible? I don't think so, but there are christian and islamic pedophiles. so again if you gonna quote malcolm, which you have little info about, at least by reading them past posts, then practice what he preached, don't come on here be a hypocrite.
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Well I knew you were going to use the islamic defense but the key word there is WAS, he isn't no longer a close associate of WarithDeen Mohammed (that's how he spelled it).
But his beliefs and yours might parallel in one book, but he wouldn't agree with your indoctrinated sunni beliefs at least in reading "Chains and Images of Psychological slavery" and the Community of Self"
Oh and I doubt you can even comprehend what he revealed "Light from Ancient Africa"
I've read a couple Na'im Akbar books "Know Thy Self" and "Natural Psychology of Human Transformation" with the latter being one of my favorite books of all time.
And then you get mad at me because I haven't read and loved this other Na'im Akbar book?
In my life I have learned that their are some people you can not win with in life. And that is just a fact. That some people will hate you no matter what you do. If you take 6 steps, they'll be mad because you didn't take 7, or they will wish that you had only taken 5. There is no way to win with you, so I will accept my loss.
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I've read a couple Na'im Akbar books "Know Thy Self" and "Natural Psychology of Human Transformation" with the latter being one of my favorite books of all time.
And then you get mad at me because I haven't read and loved this other Na'im Akbar book?
In my life I have learned that their are some people you can not win with in life. And that is just a fact. That some people will hate you no matter what you do. If you take 6 steps, they'll be mad because you didn't take 7, or they will wish that you had only taken 5. There is no way to win with you, so I will accept my loss.
Okay well thats a good way of puttin it, but in chains and images of pyschological slavery, he answers what is the psychological consequence for Blacks and Whites of picturing God/Allah as a Caucasian. which he states that God is not white, but before you get up on here and start quotin' and sayin' this or that, there are a few folks who were brought up in an afrocentric setting and know these books and we can say even people. So if you feel that you "lost" (since there wasn't nothing to win), then go back to the lab, and do some research, cuz you'll end up looking like a vanilla ice clone instead of an eminem one (meaning he will be a fraud instead of real).
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Okay well thats a good way of puttin it, but in chains and images of pyschological slavery, he answers what is the psychological consequence for Blacks and Whites of picturing God/Allah as a Caucasian. which he states that God is not white, but before you get up on here and start quotin' and sayin' this or that, there are a few folks who were brought up in an afrocentric setting and know these books and we can say even people. So if you feel that you "lost" (since there wasn't nothing to win), then go back to the lab, and do some research, cuz you'll end up looking like a vanilla ice clone instead of an eminem one (meaning he will be a fraud instead of real).
What are you talking about? I understand that in his books he discusses the consequences of seeing Jesus as white, but there is no way he would talk about seeing Allah as white, because Allah is an amorphous, faceless, creator, high above, and with a like unto none. There's no way to win with you.
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What are you talking about? I understand that in his books he discusses the consequences of seeing Jesus as white, but there is no way he would talk about seeing Allah as white, because Allah is an amorphous, faceless, creator, high above, and with a like unto none. There's no way to win with you.
don't get mad, I'm just debating you, dude. if the creator is an amorphous, faceless, creator, high above(where?) and with a like unto none, then if we are created in his image and likeness, then we should be faceless and amorphous, as well.
In Surah 5 Al-Maidah Allah says "The devil desires only to create enmity and hatred among you by means of intoxicants and games of chance and to keep you back from the rememberance of Allah and from prayer" in regards to drinking for that fool tech.
Also if Allah is a spirit, then explain Al-Baqarah and the story of Adam?
There is a way to win against me, but there is no way for you to win against the truth. And I provide it, you just rattle off big words with no foundation behind it.
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I'm taught in my religion that Allah has a like unto none.... so that would mean that we are not, and don't look like Him.
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I'm taught in my religion that Allah has a like unto none.... so that would mean that we are not, and don't look like Him.
Rite On....
And lol, I know Akbar, He's my dad ;D
And Whoever quotes that Political Gangsta character or whatever he is, is an idiot....Infinite only writes as political gangsta 2 improve his journalism skills....U shouldnt make a big deal about what "Political Gangsta" says....
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so I'm an idiot now ::)
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Rite On....
And lol, I know Akbar, He's my dad ;D
And Whoever quotes that Political Gangsta character or whatever he is, is an idiot....Infinite only writes as political gangsta 2 improve his journalism skills....U shouldnt make a big deal about what "Political Gangsta" says....
Yep. Exactly. It's just to work on the new vocab I learn.
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Yep. Exactly. It's just to work on the new vocab I learn.
Not neccesarily.
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Not neccesarily.
Are you arguing with yourself?
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lol......well this arguing wit self thing has 2 stop......its just a bit too corny......
But yea that whole new vocab thing is all good......Keep doin wat U do......
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corny?
... why not answer the 'is infinite crazy thread' ;)
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I respect Infinite and the reast of the Muslims on this board. But I agree that some of them are bashing christianity. I mean sure they are just questions but I can tell they have negative intentions behind them. That's why I tend to discuss political issues instead.
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I respect Infinite and the reast of the Muslims on this board. But I agree that some of them are bashing christianity. I mean sure they are just questions but I can tell they have negative intentions behind them. That's why I tend to discuss political issues instead.
no disresprectin...but its just that Christianity have alotta uncleared questions and statements.. and thats what for example im trying go understand... .. and like i said before, if you find uncleared statements in Islam, please make a thread... theres no way that i would be mad, because it would only help the other peeps who's reading the thread to understand Islam...
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no disresprectin...but its just that Christianity have alotta uncleared questions and statements.. and thats what for example im trying go understand... .. and like i said before, if you find uncleared statements in Islam, please make a thread... theres no way that i would be mad, because it would only help the other peeps who's reading the thread to understand Islam...
Just os you know I never got upset at any of the statements or questions you asked because they seemed genuine. There were just other statments in the past from a few people.
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I got luv for u Trauma, u may not think so, but i do
i respect u alot
but i gotta disagree wit ya....
I think Infinites one of the most knowledgable heads here. He speaks the shit, some of yall minds cant comprehend.
Yall see the world in Black and White, and when some dude speaks on the Grey yall become confused.
I can honestly say I respect your opinion, and I'll continue to double check myself, to make sure i'm not just being confused, but I don't feel I am. Thanks for the comments. Peace~
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Not neccesarily.
How Cute. His alter egos team up to fight crime.
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no disresprectin...but its just that Christianity have alotta uncleared questions and statements.. and thats what for example im trying go understand... .. and like i said before, if you find uncleared statements in Islam, please make a thread... theres no way that i would be mad, because it would only help the other peeps who's reading the thread to understand Islam...
Sure, Christianity has tons of things about it that are unclear. And there's no problems with asking questions. But Infinite, whom this thread is about, asks the same questions over and over, and then uses them as his basis to publicly dismiss christianity. I don't go around saying "Islam grew out of Polytheism" all the time, and ask for evidence to the contrary, then ignore it, and keep on going.
Perfect Example of what I'm talking about. Infinite has before spoken about how he doesnt' feel Jesus was the son of god. He thinks he was just a man. That's fine, it's his opinion, I've talked to him about why I feel Jesus WAS the son of god. Everytime something christian comes up, this prick has to say "Christians make a god out of a man" and "At least Islam doesn't worship a man" and "There's only 1 god, not 2 like Christians say" blah blah blah. It'd be fine if he questioned it, but when he continuously brings it up, it's rediculous. You will NEVER hear me bash Islam, or Muhammad. When I feel like it, i'll praise it. I think that's the only way to overcome ignorance, and bigotry (overseer's word). Religions are SOOOOOO much alike, it's rediculous to fight over them. Plus, there IS only 1 god, almost all religions agree on that. It's not important how you worship god, we're all struglling.
That's why, the main reason why, I get angry with Infinite. The way he talks trash about Jesus Christ is deeply disrespectful, and honestly, I get enraged about it. It's not because I don't understand, or I'm confused, it's because I'm offended by his disrespect to what is most important in my life, when to him, it means nothing. Why can't he just ignore it, then? I ignore Muhammad. I ignore Allah, and the Quaran. I don't speak on it, because I don't want to hurt his feelings, and it's none of my business.
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It's not because I don't understand, or I'm confused, it's because I'm offended by his disrespect to what is most important in my life, when to him, it means nothing. Why can't he just ignore it, then? I ignore Muhammad. I ignore Allah, and the Quaran. I don't speak on it, because I don't want to hurt his feelings, and it's none of my business.
Amen.
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Kept quiet for two months? Would you like me to pull out the thread about Nas where you maliciously try to make me out to be a racist because I quoted Nas as saying "nigga"? Or the threads where you call me ignorant, unintelligent, and evil because I don't like classical music. You've never "kept quiet."
I've kept quiet abot how big of a jerk you are. I've kept quiet about how offensive you are about Christianity, and America, etc. I've bit my tongue dozens of times.
You wasted a great deal of time an energy on that psychology degree. And it frustrates you when your brief, narrow vision of eternal truth does not allow you to understand all of what I do. So therefore, in your ignorance, you denounce me as evil.
Brotha, PLEASE. You think you're all complicated, LOL. GIMME A FRIEKIN BREAK. EVERYBODY'S COMPLICATED! The 15 year old white girls who turned you down in high school are more complicated then you'll ever hope to be in all your religious fervor. I see through you like cheap t-shirts.
In more then one thread, I have give props to America for it's diversity, and even explained how America is unique for aboloshing slavery, because that hasn't happened in other countries. And I encouraged people to buy Dinesh D'souza's book "What's So Great About America" so they could learn the posotive virtues of America.
90% hate, 10% props. You're still generally negative. Thanks for those prop threads, though. Why are you so concerned about race, btw? You're white. I think you forget that sometimes. How can you read a book by Dinesh D'souza, which you couldn't POSSIBLY relate to, and then totally ignore the entire library of Shakespeare? You're so close minded, you only appreciate crap for the sake of appearing diversified.
I invite anyone on this forum to go and look at the threads, still on the first page, about the trinity and other Christian concepts, and you will see that I give Trauma props in those threads for the knowledge that he dropped on the subject.
You gave me props because you agreed with me, LOL. When you don't agree, like, on anything involving Jesus Christ, Christianity being good, etc. You bash Christ, christians, catholics, whatever the heck you can. How many times have you told me "Typical Christian Response" .. Man, go to hell for that. I would never do that to you, that's just wrong.
Now who is the one telling lies? I challenge you, and I will put this on Allah, that I did not say I was proud of the Muslims who drove into the towers on Sept. 11th, or proud of the suicide bombers. If I did anything I tried to explain why they would have done such a terrible crime, but it upsets you when I explain this, because you don't like hearing that America may have been somewhat responsible, you don't like feeling guilty.
You said, as Jay has backed up, that you were proud of the men who flew into the wtc. You're a liar, and you're a bigot. May I also mention that John Walker is your hero? Explain that, you friekin' traitor. Send me your address, I think I wanna call the F.B.I. before you turn out just like him. You realize your 'support' of him could land you in prison, right? Why? Because it's wrong. I mean, you're too ignorant to be a threat, but you've proven several times that even a fool running his mouth can convince others he's right. Every time I think i've heard the most ignorant comment of all time, you keep talking.
I have made a large number of threads praising Allah and praising Islam. Praising figures like Malcolm X, Na'im Akbar and even non-Muslims like Eldridge Cleaver. Those threads are very posotive threads. Yet, you are terribly uncultured, and in your ignorance you see these as negetive.
I don't think that's negative. I think all your crap about America and Jesus is negative. You consider reading a few books by black muslims, and a few webpages by American critics, while listening to a few Rass Kass cd's cultured? You're one of those guys who only read the Cliff Notes in college, because you couldn't understand the original material. You say we shouldn't believe what the media pushes, but you use the 'underground' media and believe everything negative they say, because you're just generally negative. Negativity takes away from positivity, that's why I say your evil. You are, man, you are.
I will continue to exist in spite of your hatred. I am prepared to deal with the hatred that exists in you, but you are not prepared to deal with me when I defend myself from your baseless invective.
Baseless? Are you mental? I've destroyed every comment you have, and all of my points have been deemed valid by all but 1 person on this thread, and you say they're baseless? LOL. You know why it's you "Against the world" young pac? Because you're WRONG. Either you're wrong, or the entire friekin' board is. Are you so bold that you can say you're more intelligent than me and half the other cats on here? Please.
There is no doubt that you are wrong. Very, very wrong. May Allah guide you. Assalamulakum. (1 God)
Allah does guide me. When I read your posts, I get a sick feeling in my stomach, because the holy ghost tells me you're screwed up, and spreading trash. Of course, you have never, ever, once conceded to anything on this board, so i'm sure you'll tell me I'm wrong.
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its ok. he can just ignore the valid points and not address them when he's wrong.
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Exactly, LOL. Then he'll get his boyfriend Papa Grinch to come on and say "The deep hatred that infests your very existence refutes the aura of oneness I emit through my soliditary and subservance to the one true god, Allah, peace be with him"
Amber is the color of ya Energy. Oh Oh.