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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 20, 2010, 02:00:55 AM
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Listened to it again today after not hearing it for a while. There were 3 joints I never stopped listening to, "Breathe", "We Make The World Go Round", and "Hero"...
But listening to the ENTIRE album again today for the first time in a while, it sounds like he was pre-occupied with this whole "Nigger" concept for the album and forgot all about actually making hott joints. And the theme for the album was very unfocused, because he was trying to balance 60's Black Panther revolutionary rhetoric with great hope and aspirations for Barack Obama's 2008 presidential run, and it all became confusing to listen to.
The first 5 tracks on the albums are all dope, and then the album just fades into obscurity after that.
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Listened to it again today after not hearing it for a while. There were 3 joints I never stopped listening to, "Breathe", "We Make The World Go Round", and "Hero"...
Those are my 3 least favorite songs on the album ;D
The first 5 tracks on the albums are all dope, and then the album just fades into obscurity after that.
nigga you crazy. Untitled, NIGGER, Black President, Sly Fox, Fried Chicken, etc.....take out the 2 singles and I'd consider it one of the best concept records I've heard.
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nigga you crazy. Untitled, NIGGER, Black President, Sly Fox, Fried Chicken, etc.....take out the 2 singles and I'd consider it one of the best concept records I've heard.
wow... well, I'm a big Nas fan so I can't hate you for that... but the second half of this album is some of his weakest material he's put out, in my opinion.
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well dude...imo those tracks I mentioned shit on the two singles.
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haha secound half > the first half for me, We're Not Alone, Yall My Niggas, Untitled, Nigger, Testify best joints on the album
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great album
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Incredible album...the 2 singles were easily the 2 worst songs.
Nas talked about some real shit on here from william cooper, fuckin aliens, racism, and a ton more that went over most peeps heads.
Def some of Nas best work, I still bump this shit on the regular.
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sly fox is a dope ass joint
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It's a dope album. It's one of those albums I'd love to hear the complete recording sessions because the final product has clearly been tampered with by the label. Testify is easily one of my favorite songs. He's pretty ballsy calling out his white fan base.
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i like that intro, i never listened past that. i got bored of nas. if i want to listen to him i bump illmatic or it was written, or lost tapes, nothing else much interests me
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i thought it was really good.
big step up from Hip Hop Is Dead, in my opinion.
4/5
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I really liked it, and I think "Hero" is a great song too. There are a lot of great songs on there.
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Good subject matter, weak beats.
Even the subject matter that i thought was really thought provoking was only skimmed over lightly.
Seemed half assed over all.
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^ yea im always weird with nas production, here and there its cool (get down, made you look) but its so boring sometimes... excluding illmatic and it was written and lost tapes
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Classic
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I actually listened to the album for the first time a few weeks ago. When it first came out I was so disappointed by him and Kelis smiling and wearing "nigger" shirts that I completely ignored this one. But Nas is one of my favorite rappers so it was only a matter of time before I gave in...
The first 5 tracks on the albums are all dope, and then the album just fades into obscurity after that.
Wow. Way to shed yourself of any credibility.
There were 3 joints I never stopped listening to, "Breathe", "We Make The World Go Round", and "Hero"...
This song has NO business being on the album. Beat sucks, Game's verse doesn't rhyme, Nas calling Chris Brown the new Michael Jackson - I just don't like anything about this song.
But listening to the ENTIRE album again today for the first time in a while, it sounds like he was pre-occupied with this whole "Nigger" concept for the album and forgot all about actually making hott joints. And the theme for the album was very unfocused, because he was trying to balance 60's Black Panther revolutionary rhetoric with great hope and aspirations for Barack Obama's 2008 presidential run, and it all became confusing to listen to.
What was so confusing? I think Nas did an amazing job showing how slavery still plays a part in the minds / hearts of African Americans to this day. I'm just shocked he was able to release songs like "Sly Fox", "Louis Farrakhan", and "Black President".
My favorite song is "Ya'll My Niggas" tho...
"Aye I was thinkin a lil bit
What would it take to authenticate my nigga-ness
Ball ridiculous, 26 inches when I call up the dealership
Aww thats some nigga shit
We only out for our own benefits
We havin too many kids, with Claudines, welfare recipients
The infamous free clinics is the sickest shit
Makes me wonder what the hell they clean their syringes with"
Got damn!
The only complaints I have about this album is the length of some of the song. I believe "Fried Chicken", "Project Roach", and "Testify" are all under 3 minutes. And one of my favorites, "Louis Farrakhan" was so amazing but I was highly disappointed that there was no 3rd verse.
Bottom line - AMAZING album. Like I always say - Nas & Cube are the 2 best rappers ever (doesn't matter which order you put them in).
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i kinda agree with whiteboy on this one, Nas i one of my favourite rappers of all time, but i do find him boring from time to time, and this album is one of those times unfortunately... :-\
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Queens Get The Money, Hero, Breathe, Fried Chicken, Y'all My Niggas, N.I.G.G.E.R., Sly Fox and Black President were all hot tracks. My favorite Nas album to come out in a while to be honest.
Y'all My Niggas is easily my favorite track off that album though.
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i thought it was really good.
big step up from Hip Hop Is Dead, in my opinion.
4/5
I thought top to bottom Hip-Hop Is Dead was solid throughout, had bangers and less fillers and easily better overall compared to the Nigger album.
Seems like most everyone disagrees with me though about 1rst half of Nigger album >>>>> Second half of album. But at least show some love for "Breathe". I haven't heard anyone else mention that track (except Sikotic just now).
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Imo this was the best album released in 2008 & possibly the best Nas album after Stillmatic (not counting Lost Tapes).
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knot concept,alot of ill rhymes,yet shit was still boring as fucc,nas needs and executive producer to oversea his shit tough at all times, songs he didn't put on it was better then shit that was on the finished product, hell i think he could have got with khalil alone and made an all time classic yell
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A great album,he stuck to the concept very well and he did something different then the norm at def jam.Nas albums on def jame stick out greatly compared to all their other cookie cutter releases,though im sure infinite loves those albums considering he listed the three worst songs on the album as his favourite songs.
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Love the album. The two singles were weak and I dislike Project Roach (Nas didn't execute the concept well). But I love the other 12 joints, great album.
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Great album. Consistent, cohesive and creative.
The only joint I don't really enjoy is the chris brown one doesnt fit
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i thought it was really good.
big step up from Hip Hop Is Dead, in my opinion.
4/5
I thought top to bottom Hip-Hop Is Dead was solid throughout, had bangers and less fillers and easily better overall compared to the Nigger album.
Seems like most everyone disagrees with me though about 1rst half of Nigger album >>>>> Second half of album. But at least show some love for "Breathe". I haven't heard anyone else mention that track (except Sikotic just now).
breathe is dope. I just place all the other songs above it except for the two singles.
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Great album! Only things I dislike about it is that the Game/Brown song made it on while that Khalil song didn't and some of the songs are abit short
O and 'Hero' was sick, one of my favourite mainstream singles of the last few years
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Maybe it's cuz i'm white but....this album cranked hard to me...had one song on it. I was so disappointed.
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wasnt feelin it either
Maybe it's cuz i'm white but....this album cranked hard to me...had one song on it. I was so disappointed.
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I love this whole album, I loved streets disciple too (aside from a few tracks).
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Solid album. More shock value then anything else with the whole title controversy but musically it was good.
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Personally, I think Street's Disciple was his weakest effort in a long time, even considering it was a double album.
Gotta admit though, the good tracks were some of his best from that album. Better than most of his better tracks off Untitled. I guess you could say Street's Disciple brought the best and worst outta Nas.
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I also think Street Disciple is hist best album post Stillmatic. If only he would've cut it 1 disk short.
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Great album, like all Nas albums except Nastradamus which sucked.
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damn interestin to see people like sd vs gods son
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not Nas's best at all...I only Like Hero..the rest was boring. Stillmatic and Gods Son shits all over this
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nastrodomus was definitely the wackest of all his albums.
lost tapes had some classic tracks.
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It was pretty good in parts, I liked half of the songs, I just find the beats from the likes of Testify, You Can't Stop Us Now etc very bland. I know I am definitely in the minority in that respect but also I don't think the lyrics were half as intelligent as people give him credit for.
Above all else, regardless of what topics he covers, his rhymes lack the sharpness and focus they once had. So I think this album is given more credit just simply because for some reason people have seen him as some kind of maverick.
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I don't think the lyrics were half as intelligent as people give him credit for.
Above all else, regardless of what topics he covers, his rhymes lack the sharpness and focus they once had. So I think this album is given more credit just simply because for some reason people have seen him as some kind of maverick.
I agree with both sentiments but still stand that nas at his worst is still better than most.
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It was pretty good in parts, I liked half of the songs, I just find the beats from the likes of Testify, You Can't Stop Us Now etc very bland. I know I am definitely in the minority in that respect but also I don't think the lyrics were half as intelligent as people give him credit for.
Above all else, regardless of what topics he covers, his rhymes lack the sharpness and focus they once had. So I think this album is given more credit just simply because for some reason people have seen him as some kind of maverick.
Nas is speaking about shit that no one else is. The last person to do that was Pimp C.
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Listened to it again today after not hearing it for a while. There were 3 joints I never stopped listening to, "Breathe", "We Make The World Go Round", and "Hero"...
Those are my 3 least favorite songs on the album ;D
The first 5 tracks on the albums are all dope, and then the album just fades into obscurity after that.
nigga you crazy. Untitled, NIGGER, Black President, Sly Fox, Fried Chicken, etc.....take out the 2 singles and I'd consider it one of the best concept records I've heard.
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It's a dope album. It's one of those albums I'd love to hear the complete recording sessions because the final product has clearly been tampered with by the label. Testify is easily one of my favorite songs. He's pretty ballsy calling out his white fan base.
No doubt, the 2 joints the label forced stick out like a sore fucking thumb. And he specifically spoke on that...basically saying "look they censor me and what I say and force their shit on me artistically, and I'm one of the GOAT'S. What do you think they are doing to these young kids who have no clout?"
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Nas now >> Nas on illmatic. A classic record it was and his best, but Nas then didn't have half the diversity in his lyrics he has now. And his rhymes were scattered as fuck.
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Nas now >> Nas on illmatic. A classic record it was and his best, but Nas then didn't have half the diversity in his lyrics he has now. And his rhymes were scattered as fuck.
THANK YOU! I have felt that way for years. I couldn't agree with you more on that statement.
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It was an average album. Like a 6/10 album. It was a marked improvement on HHID at the time which was something I was grateful for, but nowhere near the level of quality Nas has put out before and has the potential to put out again.
I honestly don't see why Nas doesnt just release an album with the producers who helped make him such a legend again (Large Professor, DJ Premier & Pete Rock). Even today if he released an album comprised of the same producers he had on Illmatic 15-20 years on he'd be able to get a much more rounded, personal and consistent LP than what he gets from trying to catch a trend.
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I liked just about every song on this album. illmatic, stillmatic, it was written and Nigger are my favourite Nas albums. One of his strongest releases IMO.
I saw Nas before last year in December, 2009. He mostly did tracks off those 3 albums.
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which in a way explains why you like the dipset more than the illmatic album...aite makes sense now
Nas now >> Nas on illmatic. A classic record it was and his best, but Nas then didn't have half the diversity in his lyrics he has now. And his rhymes were scattered as fuck.
THANK YOU! I have felt that way for years. I couldn't agree with you more on that statement.
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Good album, but too political for my taste. Props to Nas for speaking his mind though.
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This album was 1 and done to me, BECAUSE of the concept.. This shit is too serious to just be chillin on my ipod. I know about the issues he was speaking on on this album, but I don't like having that shit involved in my music! Can't groove to it... And also, I thought the beats weren't very emotionally charged.
Y'all will hate me but I rate... HHID > Untitled
For reference, fav album: Stillmatic
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This album was 1 and done to me, BECAUSE of the concept.. This shit is too serious to just be chillin on my ipod. I know about the issues he was speaking on on this album, but I don't like having that shit involved in my music! Can't groove to it... And also, I thought the beats weren't very emotionally charged.
Y'all will hate me but I rate... HHID > Untitled
For reference, fav album: Stillmatic
It's definitely not the kind of music you throw on at a party or listen to in your ride, but it serves its purpose. Aside from the two singles I thought it was a great concept album and when I'm in the mood to listen to some real shit I definitely throw this on. It's kinda like the same way with half of 2Pac's music, you have to be in a serious state of mind to enjoy the music.
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The Nigger album is one of my top 3 Nas albums besides Illmatic and Hiphop is dead!!!!
This is a great album, i was bumping it recently, amazing!!!!! stand out cuts like black president, america, queens get the money, N.I.G.G.E.R(Slave&Master),
I SAY 2 years later, this album is classic, in my opinion...L.A Reid should have promoted it better than he did
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interestin cuz stillmatic is one of my favorite..but the album didnt have bangers all the way thru....gods son was cool too but also had songs I wasnt feelin
but the intro on stillmatic is dope alone
This album was 1 and done to me, BECAUSE of the concept.. This shit is too serious to just be chillin on my ipod. I know about the issues he was speaking on on this album, but I don't like having that shit involved in my music! Can't groove to it... And also, I thought the beats weren't very emotionally charged.
Y'all will hate me but I rate... HHID > Untitled
For reference, fav album: Stillmatic
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Listened to it again today after not hearing it for a while. There were 3 joints I never stopped listening to, "Breathe", "We Make The World Go Round", and "Hero"...
Those are my 3 least favorite songs on the album ;D
The first 5 tracks on the albums are all dope, and then the album just fades into obscurity after that.
nigga you crazy. Untitled, NIGGER, Black President, Sly Fox, Fried Chicken, etc.....take out the 2 singles and I'd consider it one of the best concept records I've heard.
hahaha I actually agree with this guy
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This album was 1 and done to me, BECAUSE of the concept.. This shit is too serious to just be chillin on my ipod. I know about the issues he was speaking on on this album, but I don't like having that shit involved in my music! Can't groove to it... And also, I thought the beats weren't very emotionally charged.
Y'all will hate me but I rate... HHID > Untitled
For reference, fav album: Stillmatic
It's definitely not the kind of music you throw on at a party or listen to in your ride, but it serves its purpose. Aside from the two singles I thought it was a great concept album and when I'm in the mood to listen to some real shit I definitely throw this on. It's kinda like the same way with half of 2Pac's music, you have to be in a serious state of mind to enjoy the music.
Yeah I Guess... Ima d/l it again someday when I go on a Nas binge and test it out again.. (Should be soon)
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Listened again... The mastering of this album blows... I think that's what it is for me.. Lyrics is aight, but some of the production is kinda unfitting to me, which might have improved with better mastering? First listen I didn't like any aside from Hero, this time there were a couple decent joints, and I really liked Yall My N*ggas..