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Title: Violence Trends Upward In Iraq
Post by: Ant on June 03, 2005, 07:26:26 AM
                                                                              May 2003            June 2004                May 2005

U.S. Troops Killed/Wounded In Iraq (per month)             37/54                  42/584                      77/615 

Iraqi Security Personnel Killed (per month)                       few                      150                          270 

Iraqi Civilians Killed (per month)                                       25                       350                          600

Estimated # of Insurgents                                             3k                         15k                          16k

Avg. # of Daily Insurgent Attacks                                   10                         52                            70


A number of interesting economic improvments have begun materializing in Iraq, but these numbers are disturbing at best.  I think its fair to say, and quite obvious, that there has been some degree of mismanagment involved in this war.  Hopefully even the bigots can understand that when things get unexpectedly worse each month someone in charge is fucking up.  Id like to think this whole escapade will be over within a reasonable amount of time, but how do you win a war that seems to get worse every month?



Title: Re: Violence Trends Upward In Iraq
Post by: J Bananas on June 03, 2005, 10:39:37 AM
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but how do you win a war that seems to get worse every month?

Shake off the pussy liberals whining, handle ur business, and liberate the shit out of the place until there's more of theirs dead than yours
Title: Re: Violence Trends Upward In Iraq
Post by: Machiavelli on June 03, 2005, 02:49:27 PM
What about the number of insurgents killed?
Title: Re: Violence Trends Upward In Iraq
Post by: Suga Foot on June 03, 2005, 03:08:30 PM
they just gotta keep grindin, it's not like they can just leave now.  It sucks, but thats reality.
Title: Re: Violence Trends Upward In Iraq
Post by: Rampant on June 03, 2005, 03:09:26 PM
What about the number of insurgents killed?
lots of insurgents, lots of civillians, lots of coalition soldiers.

no positive can come out of this thread.
Title: Re: Violence Trends Upward In Iraq
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on June 03, 2005, 05:02:57 PM
no positive can come out of this thread - Real Talk right there!... it's sad but it's true...
Title: Re: Violence Trends Upward In Iraq
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on June 03, 2005, 10:37:01 PM
QUICK SAND BIYATCHESSSSSS



Basically the down side to being a dumb ignorant hick, is that your dumbness, hickness and ignorance gets in the way of logic.


logic would tell u this whole iraq mess was one big blunder

but logic doesnt go hand in hand with neo conservative ideology
Title: Re: Violence Trends Upward In Iraq
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on June 05, 2005, 01:15:50 PM
they just gotta keep grindin, it's not like they can just leave now.  It sucks, but thats reality.

The reality is that you've been manipulated by your government.  Major media is owned by defense contractors, don't believe everything you see on TV, think for yourself and think not from an individual perspective but what is best from a world perspective, Briefly...

1.  First they weakened Iraq through over a decade of sanctions that starved the general population.

2.  Then while Iraq was at it's weakest they invaded to gangsta some oil up out of the country and further destabalize the region while strengthening Isreal's arm in the Middle East.

3.  Then, they had to justify their existence in Iraq, by claiming that they are "providing security" and are defending Iraq against sectarian fighting (most all of which is targeted towards those collaborating with the occupational forces, violence that was not present until the United States invasion), meanwhile they can usurp Iraq's natural resources, and they have no plans on leaving Iraq until all the oil has run dry. 

Title: Re: Violence Trends Upward In Iraq
Post by: J Bananas on June 05, 2005, 01:23:45 PM
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think for yourself and think not from an individual perspective but what is best from a world perspective, Briefly...

Right, Slave... :tosser:
Title: Re: Violence Trends Upward In Iraq
Post by: Suga Foot on June 05, 2005, 01:43:06 PM
they just gotta keep grindin, it's not like they can just leave now.  It sucks, but thats reality.

The reality is that you've been manipulated by your government.  Major media is owned by defense contractors, don't believe everything you see on TV, think for yourself and think not from an individual perspective but what is best from a world perspective, Briefly...

1.  First they weakened Iraq through over a decade of sanctions that starved the general population.

2.  Then while Iraq was at it's weakest they invaded to gangsta some oil up out of the country and further destabalize the region while strengthening Isreal's arm in the Middle East.

3.  Then, they had to justify their existence in Iraq, by claiming that they are "providing security" and are defending Iraq against sectarian fighting (most all of which is targeted towards those collaborating with the occupational forces, violence that was not present until the United States invasion), meanwhile they can usurp Iraq's natural resources, and they have no plans on leaving Iraq until all the oil has run dry. 




I'm aware of what they did.  But the fact is, the US is THERE.  They can't just leave now.  We can't keep complaining about why they went there, we have to try to fix it now.  Your counter-productive thinking won't get you anywhere.  If you're that passionate about the subject, get involved, try to find ways to make the situation better rather than just blaming and complaining about it.
Title: Re: Violence Trends Upward In Iraq
Post by: Low Key on June 05, 2005, 02:50:22 PM
The reality is that you've been manipulated by your government.  Major media is owned by defense contractors, don't believe everything you see on TV, think for yourself and think not from an individual perspective but what is best from a world perspective, Briefly...

1.  First they weakened Iraq through over a decade of sanctions that starved the general population.

And you don't think Aljezzera or whatever it's called is completely skewing the truth? You, my friend, are confused. Every media outlet is bias. Everyone chooses sides.

As for #1 there, Saddam did it to his own people. The sactions were put in place so Saddam couldn't take food from his own people, get money for it, and buy weapons. Obviously, it didn't work as we are now seeing bank accounts set up to launder the money from the sactions. AND if you really want to be factual about it, there were more countries in Iraq during desert storm than just America. They all agreed on the sanctions, so why aren't you blaming them?

I don't know about the other 2 though. I think oil is a small factor in the war, but when all these people are getting killed, it's easy to make excuses and overlook that the insurgents are killing their own countrymen and themselves to try to prove they don't want the US there anymore. What a swell bunch of people. Why doesn't the US just give them more land while they're at it?
Title: Re: Violence Trends Upward In Iraq
Post by: Thirteen on June 05, 2005, 04:03:30 PM
they just gotta keep grindin, it's not like they can just leave now.  It sucks, but thats reality.

The reality is that you've been manipulated by your government.  Major media is owned by defense contractors, don't believe everything you see on TV, think for yourself and think not from an individual perspective but what is best from a world perspective, Briefly...

1.  First they weakened Iraq through over a decade of sanctions that starved the general population.

2.  Then while Iraq was at it's weakest they invaded to gangsta some oil up out of the country and further destabalize the region while strengthening Isreal's arm in the Middle East.

3.  Then, they had to justify their existence in Iraq, by claiming that they are "providing security" and are defending Iraq against sectarian fighting (most all of which is targeted towards those collaborating with the occupational forces, violence that was not present until the United States invasion), meanwhile they can usurp Iraq's natural resources, and they have no plans on leaving Iraq until all the oil has run dry. 



1. they have their own leader to thank for that... the US didn't tell sadaam to use the money to build palaces and fuck his people....get your fact straight moron

2. we could have beat iraq at it's strongest

3. if they leave now, common sense show that all hell would break lose....the country has no law enforcement, no military, no leaders ship...

use your ass looking thing that's sitting on your shoulders before you type some more ignorant shit you muslim sheep
Title: Re: Violence Trends Upward In Iraq
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on June 05, 2005, 09:45:42 PM
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think for yourself and think not from an individual perspective but what is best from a world perspective, Briefly...

Right, Slave... :tosser:

Freedom is relative to the people who sell it.  They say you have freedom but you can't yell "fire" in a crowded theatre.  You can not be free enough not to die, you can not be free enough to eat and not go through the process of digestion, in all things we are slaves to Allah the Creator and Sustainer of this world, whether you realize it or not, nothing happens without the will and the permission of Allah. 

You did not choose where you were born and to whom you were born to, and only God (Allah) knows your perscribed hour of death.  This desicion is made by the greatest of judges, the Creator of this world and everything in it.  So Islam is based upon the uneffort to be free, to willfully submit to the will of Creator. 
Title: Re: Violence Trends Upward In Iraq
Post by: Low Key on June 06, 2005, 12:13:43 AM
Freedom is relative to the people who sell it.  They say you have freedom but you can't yell "fire" in a crowded theatre.  You can not be free enough not to die, you can not be free enough to eat and not go through the process of digestion, in all things we are slaves to Allah the Creator and Sustainer of this world, whether you realize it or not, nothing happens without the will and the permission of Allah. 

You did not choose where you were born and to whom you were born to, and only God (Allah) knows your perscribed hour of death.  This desicion is made by the greatest of judges, the Creator of this world and everything in it.  So Islam is based upon the uneffort to be free, to willfully submit to the will of Creator. 

And that is what's best from a world prespective? I think you are full of shit.
Title: Re: Violence Trends Upward In Iraq
Post by: Capo Di Tutti I Capi on June 06, 2005, 06:03:57 AM
This is a war america can't win
Title: Re: Violence Trends Upward In Iraq
Post by: J Bananas on June 06, 2005, 09:31:33 AM
(http://beardsworth.co.uk/pics/photos/spkr_white_muslim2.jpg)

Dude! Allah sees you when you're sleeping and he knows when you're awake!
Title: Re: Violence Trends Upward In Iraq
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on June 06, 2005, 10:08:10 PM
and your name is j bananas  :-\
Title: Re: Violence Trends Upward In Iraq
Post by: J Bananas on June 06, 2005, 10:15:52 PM
no my name is chaka imbad zulu keenta kari. j bananas is my slave name. if you weren't such a pastey gray face i'd hook u up with a name so you could be down with the nation like me and my boy bryan. but you screwed that up now didnt you.