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Title: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: pootypooty on March 03, 2008, 04:20:28 AM
Ripped from AllHipHop rumors:

SNOOP: I DON’T NEED DR. DRE!


Recently my homey, Radio Host Kendra G the Blackbarbie, caught up with Snoop Dogg who is currently promoting his new album which will be out in March titled Ego Trippin.’ According to the Kendra G the interview started off with a rocky start when Kendra G asked Snoop was Dr. Dre on the album! Snoop snapped and said, "No, I don't need Dr. Dre! You are interviewing Snoop Dogg and you need to know who you are interviewing. This is a Snoop Dogg record and he's built off Snoop Dogg!" Wow! Snoop spent the next 4 mins explaining why Dr. Dre didn't produce a track on his album and how he is trying to establish himself without Dr. Dre. Check the interview out for yourself!


Go, Snoop! We’re going to all be old as John McCain if we keep waiting for Detox!

http://www.youtube.com/v/GoBtwm3tB4E

Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: Dre-Day on March 03, 2008, 04:37:09 AM
no he don't need Dr.Dre or the D.O.C. but he admits that he was and still is dependant  :laugh:
he needs a mentor that tells him when his shit is wack  ;) so no ego bullshit ( note that i haven't listened to the leaked album yet, i'm just criticising his attitude).

and lol at him acting like every track he gets from Dre was first meant for somebody else  :-X in some cases it's true, but no need to exagerrate.

i do agree with him that he can make good tracks with other producers as well.
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: Hatesrats™ on March 03, 2008, 04:45:26 AM
I feel Snoop On the Features...
True Shit!!

Can't Wait For This Album.
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: wcsoldier on March 03, 2008, 05:33:51 AM
Snoop reaction was kinda weird if u ask me .. seems a little too "sensitive" when she asked if Dre was on the cd .. both can make great music without each other and it was about time that Snoop makes a more personal album  BUT they still need to make some classic music before both retired .. it can't end the other way
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: eastcoastn on March 03, 2008, 05:39:21 AM
no he don't need Dr.Dre or the D.O.C. but he admits that he was and still is dependant  :laugh:
he needs a mentor that tells him when his shit is wack  ;) so no ego bullshit ( note that i haven't listened to the leaked album yet, i'm just criticising his attitude).

and lol at him acting like every track he gets from Dre was first meant for somebody else  :-X in some cases it's true, but no need to exagerrate.

i do agree with him that he can make good tracks with other producers as well.

get off Dre's dick
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: Jungleboy on March 03, 2008, 06:00:07 AM
Snoop realize that his BCT Single was wack ass fuck... Dr Dre gave him a old ass beat.. ;D ;D

Man, Dr. Dre is the greatest producer of the Westcoast but to be real Detox will never be a revolution for the music industry!!!!
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: UCC on March 03, 2008, 06:17:38 AM
Snoop reaction was kinda weird if u ask me .. seems a little too "sensitive" when she asked if Dre was on the cd .. both can make great music without each other and it was about time that Snoop makes a more personal album  BUT they still need to make some classic music before both retired .. it can't end the other way

I'm not too surprised he got sensitive, he must get asked that ALL the time seeing as Doggystyle was easily his most acclaimed album critically, and sold waaay more than his other albums as well, and that was with Dre calling all the shots

Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: pootypooty on March 03, 2008, 06:29:49 AM
Snoop reaction was kinda weird if u ask me .. seems a little too "sensitive" when she asked if Dre was on the cd ..

LOL! I couldn't figure out why he was so quick to dismiss him either, but now I think I found out why he came off overly sensitive after reading this quote from this post: http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=171731.0

Crooked I announced the single during his concert @ the rhythm lounge. He also said he's going to be on Detox. Thats what dude who attended the concert said over @ dynasty.

 :P Snoop's probably pissed @ Dre for this if it's true.

Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: R1ZE on March 03, 2008, 07:25:43 AM
Snoop realize that his BCT Single was wack ass fuck... Dr Dre gave him a old ass beat.. ;D ;D

cause he was ego trippin... he shoulda put out imagine. that shit wouldn't get to #1 or nothin, but it woulda got alot more play, not to mention be a better and more important vid for him.

Just a lil while ago Snoop was talkin about doin a whole album with Dre, and now he's back on the tip about tryin to prove he doesn't need him.

"Make Up 2 Break Up"... we need it!
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on March 03, 2008, 07:27:54 AM
actually the shit dre gave him on BCT was weak and meant for others, i wanna hear shit when dre and snoop get into the studio and make shit from scracth with a dre sound designed for snoop and then you'll hear that amazing shit they done did again. As for ego trippin, i havent heard it yet but i already know snoop dont need dre...but its sure nice when they work together, its a spectacle.
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: Si-Chiggedy on March 03, 2008, 07:28:53 AM

Man, Dr. Dre is the greatest producer of the Westcoast

lol, since when?
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: HEC on March 03, 2008, 08:02:01 AM
no he don't need Dr.Dre or the D.O.C. but he admits that he was and still is dependant  :laugh:
he needs a mentor that tells him when his shit is wack  ;) so no ego bullshit ( note that i haven't listened to the leaked album yet, i'm just criticising his attitude).

and lol at him acting like every track he gets from Dre was first meant for somebody else  :-X in some cases it's true, but no need to exagerrate.

i do agree with him that he can make good tracks with other producers as well.

I love Snoop but real talk right here, he does shoot off his mouth on interviews before he thinks alot of the time
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: snopafly on March 03, 2008, 08:23:58 AM
Snoop doing some real talk here , why should he need Dr dre when dr dre give him wack beats.. when younger producers realy wanna do their best to give a hot beat to a snoop dogg album. He also says that he agree that , he is doing some hot stuff with dr dre . That he like working with him, but he wants to do his stuff himself... He is getting the same quistion everytime he get a album out " is dre on the album" no wonder he react like that.
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: UCC on March 03, 2008, 08:32:44 AM
why should he need Dr dre when dr dre give him wack beats.. when younger producers realy wanna do their best to give a hot beat to a snoop dogg album.

Come on, the Dre beats on BCT were better than a lot of stuff on there, and his albums usually have soooo much filler from no name producers and dudes he just happened to know and let give him some beats
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: Jome on March 03, 2008, 08:34:13 AM
Let's see now, Snoop's worst albums; Da Game Is To Be Told, Paid Tha Cost, Rhythm & Gangsta, Ego Trippin'... coincidently the albums where Dre is absent...

Yes, Snoop needs Dre.



Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on March 03, 2008, 08:37:41 AM
^^ You actually count Ego Trippin' to Snoop's worst albums? What are u smoking jome? Tha Doggfather didn't have any Dre either and it was banging.
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: Jome on March 03, 2008, 08:42:22 AM
^^ You actually count Ego Trippin' to Snoop's worst albums? What are u smoking jome? Tha Doggfather didn't have any Dre either and it was banging.

I think it's rather boring, only a couple of dope tracks, imo.
Doggfather was decent, but far from his best.

I don't think it's only about the Dre-tracks, but it's more about having Dre onboard, and choosing the 3rd party beats and mixing the tracks.
Dre got a great ear for beats, while Snoop some times makes some odd choices.. and also Snoop is way better lyrically when Dre's executive producer, Snoop admitted that himself.

Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: Okka on March 03, 2008, 08:42:48 AM
Tha Doggfather didn't have any Dre either and it was banging.

That's true, still one of the best albums from Snoop.
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: frisch213 on March 03, 2008, 09:16:33 AM
Snoop needs Dre more than he needs acting lessons......
After listening to his new album he needs someone.........
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: Jungleboy on March 03, 2008, 10:01:03 AM
Tha Doggfather didn't have any Dre either and it was banging.

That's true, still one of the best albums from Snoop.

Doggfather is dope! DJ Pooh make some decent tracks.
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: Okka on March 03, 2008, 10:06:46 AM
Tha Doggfather didn't have any Dre either and it was banging.

That's true, still one of the best albums from Snoop.

Doggfather is dope! DJ Pooh make some decent tracks.

Yeah. so it didn't have Dre, but it had Daz, Soopafly, DJ Pooh, LT Hutton and Sam Sneed and they are all talented producers. By the way, who are Arkim & Flair?? They had two dope beats "Sixx Minutes" and "Gold Rush".
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on March 03, 2008, 10:12:59 AM
glad Snoop called out Dre on giving him old leftover beats




Snoop should just say fuk Dre and not be on Detox, and watch that album not be even close to 2001 level let alone chronic
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on March 03, 2008, 10:16:33 AM
Tha Doggfather didn't have any Dre either and it was banging.

That's true, still one of the best albums from Snoop.

Doggfather is dope! DJ Pooh make some decent tracks.

Doggfather was hella decent 8)

best Snoop album after Doggystyle

Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: UCC on March 03, 2008, 10:21:38 AM
Tha Doggfather didn't have any Dre either and it was banging.

That's true, still one of the best albums from Snoop.

Doggfather is dope! DJ Pooh make some decent tracks.

Doggfather was hella decent 8)

best Snoop album after Doggystyle



Co-sign, it got pretty harshly treated at the time, which is a shame, because Snoop brought his most insightful content on that album I thought (even though the beats were mostly just ok, and his delivery had lost some of its edge). After it got bad reviews he seemed to decide to just stick to talking about bitches and pimping again
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on March 03, 2008, 10:32:36 AM
Ego Trippin' is terrible?
Jome smokes some bomb ass kush? Tha Doggfather didn't have any Dre either and it was WAK.

FIXED!

Chad you don't like these albums? Ego Trippin is bomb ass shit homie so is Doggfather?

props anyway every body got their opinions 8)
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: DOGGSHIT on March 03, 2008, 10:38:37 AM
Dre and Snoop is a good combination, but I agree with Snoop, he don't need Dre.
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on March 03, 2008, 10:46:29 AM
^^^
-Well,as far as Snoop solo albums,I only like Doggystyle,Top Dogg and The Last Meal. As far his other projects I feel the Eastsidaz and the Bones OST... other than that the rest is average or wak.


its all good homie I don't feel some of his albums either

agree about Tha Eastsidaz dope shit 8)
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: Dre-Day on March 03, 2008, 10:48:04 AM
I think it's rather boring, only a couple of dope tracks, imo.
Doggfather was decent, but far from his best.

I don't think it's only about the Dre-tracks, but it's more about having Dre onboard, and choosing the 3rd party beats and mixing the tracks.
Dre got a great ear for beats, while Snoop some times makes some odd choices.. and also Snoop is way better lyrically when Dre's executive producer, Snoop admitted that himself.



i definately agree. and even snoop agrees like you said ( just check the dubcnn interviews with snoop from 2006).

Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: wcsoldier on March 03, 2008, 10:48:34 AM
People needs to realize Dre hasn't been on his A game for a damn long time , his work on BCT was good but very FAR from what you can expect from a such combo... on the other hand, I'm very surprised (and in a good way) how Ego Trippin is consistent as a whole and is a true album and not a compilation like BCT .. there sure are 2-3 songs out of place and fillers but you can see Snoop wanted to have a certain sound for the album and he sticked with it
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on March 03, 2008, 10:51:55 AM
I think it's rather boring, only a couple of dope tracks, imo.
Doggfather was decent, but far from his best.

I don't think it's only about the Dre-tracks, but it's more about having Dre onboard, and choosing the 3rd party beats and mixing the tracks.
Dre got a great ear for beats, while Snoop some times makes some odd choices.. and also Snoop is way better lyrically when Dre's executive producer, Snoop admitted that himself.



i definately agree. and even snoop agrees like you said ( just check the dubcnn interviews with snoop from 2006).



but Ego Trippin is mixed as good as any Snoop album I heard Quik mix the whole album and he is just as good when it comes to mixing
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: Dre-Day on March 03, 2008, 10:55:18 AM
I think it's rather boring, only a couple of dope tracks, imo.
Doggfather was decent, but far from his best.

I don't think it's only about the Dre-tracks, but it's more about having Dre onboard, and choosing the 3rd party beats and mixing the tracks.
Dre got a great ear for beats, while Snoop some times makes some odd choices.. and also Snoop is way better lyrically when Dre's executive producer, Snoop admitted that himself.



i definately agree. and even snoop agrees like you said ( just check the dubcnn interviews with snoop from 2006).



but Ego Trippin is mixed as good as any Snoop album I heard Quik mix the whole album and he is just as good when it comes to mixing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_producer

it's not just mixing  ;) and as you may know, i respect different opinions (again, note that i haven't listened to snoop's new album yet) ;)
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on March 03, 2008, 11:01:11 AM
I think it's rather boring, only a couple of dope tracks, imo.
Doggfather was decent, but far from his best.

I don't think it's only about the Dre-tracks, but it's more about having Dre onboard, and choosing the 3rd party beats and mixing the tracks.
Dre got a great ear for beats, while Snoop some times makes some odd choices.. and also Snoop is way better lyrically when Dre's executive producer, Snoop admitted that himself.



i definately agree. and even snoop agrees like you said ( just check the dubcnn interviews with snoop from 2006).



but Ego Trippin is mixed as good as any Snoop album I heard Quik mix the whole album and he is just as good when it comes to mixing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_producer

it's not just mixing  ;) and as you may know, i respect different opinions (again, note that i haven't listened to snoop's new album yet) ;)

props man didn't realize you haven't heard it

yeah I respect opinions too its all good everybody got their own opinion and thats what were here for to express it 8)
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: Episcop Cruel Cvrle on March 03, 2008, 11:16:45 AM
Snoops only GREAT product without Dre was DOGGFATHER (thats a classic right there IMO)...on the other hand its cool to see snoop bitchin about weak beats Dre gave him. Maybe Dre gives him better ones next time, some Bishop leftovers...lol..im kiddin.

Hope to see Snoop on detox...
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: wcsoldier on March 03, 2008, 11:21:33 AM

Hope to see Snoop on detox...
you "hope" ? This isn't a question as far I'm concerned
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: D-Reborn on March 03, 2008, 11:32:53 AM
Snoop is done without Dre, even worse is done even with Dre. Doggfather was the only thing he done more or less good without Dre IMO and just because then he was a rapper even tho some beats were wack, not this RnB piece of shit he is today. I dont expect shit from this album, it will be more Neptunes-like shit. I only hope it goes commercial and shit to bring attention back to the West

 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: Styles1 on March 03, 2008, 11:45:40 AM
For a song called "Imagine" wondering about the "what if's", I think Snoop got a great beat from Dre. It's very reflective.... Now had the song been about shooting people or smacking bitches, I would be inclined to agree with you all.
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: pootypooty on March 03, 2008, 11:48:12 AM
After making the joke about Snoop being mad at Dre for letting Crooked I on Detox, I got to thinking that maybe Dre oughta double the concept of Detox as a unity album too by detoxing these West Coast niggas from beefing with each other.  Dre got enough West Coast respect to pull something off like that, it'd just be up to the beefing parties to meet in the middle with Dre to resolve it.

But for whatever it's worth, IF it is true that Crooked I is on Detox, then Game will definitely be on Detox, regardless if 50 Cent approves or not.  Afterall, it's Dre's album at the end of the day.  It ain't like Snoop/Crook & Game/50 have to record and then hang out and eat dinner together.  Just let Dre work his magic and the rest will fall into place accordingly.  The last thing these niggas need to be worrying about is if their sworn enemy is going to be contributing on the same album as them?  Just bring your hottest verses to the table and leave it at that.  Let Dre do the rest.
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: Episcop Cruel Cvrle on March 03, 2008, 11:53:05 AM
After making the joke about Snoop being mad at Dre for letting Crooked I on Detox, I got to thinking that maybe Dre oughta double the concept of Detox as a unity album too by detoxing these West Coast niggas from beefing with each other.  Dre got enough West Coast respect to pull something off like that, it'd just be up to the beefing parties to meet in the middle with Dre to resolve it.

But for whatever it's worth, IF it is true that Crooked I is on Detox, then Game will definitely be on Detox, regardless if 50 Cent approves or not.  Afterall, it's Dre's album at the end of the day.  It ain't like Snoop/Crook & Game/50 have to record and then hang out and eat dinner together.  Just let Dre work his magic and the rest will fall into place accordingly.  The last thing these niggas need to be worrying about is if their sworn enemy is going to be contributing on the same album as them?  Just bring your hottest verses to the table and leave it at that.  Let Dre do the rest.

Amen to that!
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: drakeshakenbake on March 03, 2008, 11:53:13 AM
After making the joke about Snoop being mad at Dre for letting Crooked I on Detox, I got to thinking that maybe Dre oughta double the concept of Detox as a unity album too by detoxing these West Coast niggas from beefing with each other.  Dre got enough West Coast respect to pull something off like that, it'd just be up to the beefing parties to meet in the middle with Dre to resolve it.

But for whatever it's worth, IF it is true that Crooked I is on Detox, then Game will definitely be on Detox, regardless if 50 Cent approves or not.  Afterall, it's Dre's album at the end of the day.  It ain't like Snoop/Crook & Game/50 have to record and then hang out and eat dinner together.  Just let Dre work his magic and the rest will fall into place accordingly.  The last thing these niggas need to be worrying about is if their sworn enemy is going to be contributing on the same album as them?  Just bring your hottest verses to the table and leave it at that.  Let Dre do the rest.

well put!
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on March 03, 2008, 01:23:46 PM
dogfather is off the chain and is arguably his second best album, its still ahead of most shit droppin these days. As for needing dre, snoop does not, he needs dre as much as dre needs him in all honesty...they're just fine without each other but together when they unite truly they are amazing. Also the game to be...is a wack album, horrible and RnG is pretty average and BCT with dre on it is weak...PTCTBTB>BCT....

snoop dont need dre, he only needs great people around him, whether its teddy, neptunes, quick or dre....who is in my opinion the greatest hiphop producer ever BUT like wcsoldier said, he aint been droppin heat for more than a minute and neptunes and snoop been hittin the top of the charts with shit like drop it like its hot which was off the chain...

he aint dependent on nobody, you dont last a whole 15 year career from a teenager to a grown ass man and continue to reinvent yourself as a rapper if you're dependent on somebody, he is one of the greatest ever, dont front

pz
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: Birdie on March 03, 2008, 01:41:41 PM
I don't really feel Snoop. I disagree with his opinion. There won't be any Snoop Dogg, if Dr.Dre don't put out the Doggystyle. I think Snoop should spend some time about thinking of himself.
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: Dre-Day on March 03, 2008, 01:55:31 PM
dogfather is off the chain and is arguably his second best album, its still ahead of most shit droppin these days. As for needing dre, snoop does not, he needs dre as much as dre needs him in all honesty...they're just fine without each other but together when they unite truly they are amazing. Also the game to be...is a wack album, horrible and RnG is pretty average and BCT with dre on it is weak...PTCTBTB>BCT....

snoop dont need dre, he only needs great people around him, whether its teddy, neptunes, quick or dre....who is in my opinion the greatest hiphop producer ever BUT like wcsoldier said, he aint been droppin heat for more than a minute and neptunes and snoop been hittin the top of the charts with shit like drop it like its hot which was off the chain...

he aint dependent on nobody, you dont last a whole 15 year career from a teenager to a grown ass man and continue to reinvent yourself as a rapper if you're dependent on somebody, he is one of the greatest ever, dont front

pz

note that Dre was not an executive producer on BCT, and yes that makes a difference for the final product as Jome pointed out.

but i disagree with you about dre needing snoop as much as snoop needs dre; Dre has enough talented people to work with for Detox, while Snoop was forced to work without his mentor too soon ( this is true, i've seen a snoop documentory, which included interviews with snoop in which he says that he was forced to stand on his own two feet too soon, because of Dre's departure from death row).
i'm not saying that Dre should be Snoop's babysitter, but snoop definately needs a mentor, to criticise his work and that person doesn't have to be dre; but dre just happens to be good at being an executive producer.
in other words, snoop needs to stop smoking so much.
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: PLANT on March 03, 2008, 02:11:04 PM
Ego Trippin is a dope album IMO....The best Snoop album yet without any Dre productions, and better than Blue Carpet Treatment IMO. 
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: PLANT on March 03, 2008, 02:12:52 PM
I don't really feel Snoop. I disagree with his opinion. There won't be any Snoop Dogg, if Dr.Dre don't put out the Doggystyle. I think Snoop should spend some time about thinking of himself.
At the same time, what would "The Chronic" or "2001" be without Snoop?  Definatly not the same man.
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: jpm on March 03, 2008, 02:22:45 PM
he does need dr dre or good producers cuz his new album beats are so bad ..
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on March 03, 2008, 02:35:56 PM
dogfather is off the chain and is arguably his second best album, its still ahead of most shit droppin these days. As for needing dre, snoop does not, he needs dre as much as dre needs him in all honesty...they're just fine without each other but together when they unite truly they are amazing. Also the game to be...is a wack album, horrible and RnG is pretty average and BCT with dre on it is weak...PTCTBTB>BCT....

snoop dont need dre, he only needs great people around him, whether its teddy, neptunes, quick or dre....who is in my opinion the greatest hiphop producer ever BUT like wcsoldier said, he aint been droppin heat for more than a minute and neptunes and snoop been hittin the top of the charts with shit like drop it like its hot which was off the chain...

he aint dependent on nobody, you dont last a whole 15 year career from a teenager to a grown ass man and continue to reinvent yourself as a rapper if you're dependent on somebody, he is one of the greatest ever, dont front

pz

note that Dre was not an executive producer on BCT, and yes that makes a difference for the final product as Jome pointed out.

but i disagree with you about dre needing snoop as much as snoop needs dre; Dre has enough talented people to work with for Detox, while Snoop was forced to work without his mentor too soon ( this is true, i've seen a snoop documentory, which included interviews with snoop in which he says that he was forced to stand on his own two feet too soon, because of Dre's departure from death row).
i'm not saying that Dre should be Snoop's babysitter, but snoop definately needs a mentor, to criticise his work and that person doesn't have to be dre; but dre just happens to be good at being an executive producer.
in other words, snoop needs to stop smoking so much.

i def agree that dre not being exec producer made a difference on BCT...but i think the beats dre gave him on that were garbage aswell...and about the snoop documentary, possibly he let snoop walk on his own too soon but talent is talent and for someone to be around for 15 years in the game still as relavent today as he was 10 years back says he dont need NOBODY...dre and snoop is a honour, not a need. Also i totally disagree about snoop needing dre more than dre needs snoop, you can say where would snoop have been without dre on dogystyle, but no other rapper in the world could put out a album like dogystyle....no other rapper could bless dre like snoop did on chornic, no other rapper could bring back that magic that all hiphop fans love about snoop and dre like snoop did on 2001....where would those albums be without snoop? they would be dope but nowhere near as dope as they would be snoop....thats why i say dre better have snoop on detox if he wants it too list as his third classic because in chronic, dogystlye, 2001 (3 classics)....the only 2 constants were snoop and dre so if dre wanna make detox classic, he better make sure he got snoop on it and i know he will be on it, dre wont let detox out without being blessed by snoop unless snoop for some reason says no...which i hope not, dre and snoop really need to make an album together.

pz
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: Crip2Nite: South Central LA's HoOdSTAr on March 03, 2008, 02:36:02 PM
Snoop is right...He's established a brand to where he doesn't need the 'assitance' of a certain "producer" to move decent numbers or remian relevant in the industry...As 'Dr. Lazy' is approaching 60 years old  :o, I think it's safe to say that Dre needs Snoop more than Snoop needs Dre as fas as RAP music goes. A Dre album (aka compilation) without Snoop would be dissapointing for anyone. There are too many stalled or scrapped projects out there involving Dr. Lazy to be sitting around waiting on him to "produce" an album..


 :laugh: @ "Detox"  ::)
 
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: UCC on March 03, 2008, 04:18:05 PM
in other words, snoop needs to stop smoking so much.

Lol, dope conclusion
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: BOX5 the best poster on this site yell on March 03, 2008, 04:29:51 PM
snoop speaking that networth,i agree with him 100,dre is the greatest,but you can't sit bacc and wait,yell
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: ~Lucien~ on March 03, 2008, 07:05:50 PM
Tha Doggfather didn't have any Dre either and it was banging.

That's true, still one of the best albums from Snoop.

Doggfather is dope! DJ Pooh make some decent tracks.

Doggfather was hella decent 8)

best Snoop album after Doggystyle



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Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: funkkid on March 03, 2008, 08:17:39 PM

Man, Dr. Dre is the greatest producer of the Westcoast

lol, since when?
exactly...2 me it's quik but again that's just me
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: Dre-Day on March 04, 2008, 12:18:34 AM
dogfather is off the chain and is arguably his second best album, its still ahead of most shit droppin these days. As for needing dre, snoop does not, he needs dre as much as dre needs him in all honesty...they're just fine without each other but together when they unite truly they are amazing. Also the game to be...is a wack album, horrible and RnG is pretty average and BCT with dre on it is weak...PTCTBTB>BCT....

snoop dont need dre, he only needs great people around him, whether its teddy, neptunes, quick or dre....who is in my opinion the greatest hiphop producer ever BUT like wcsoldier said, he aint been droppin heat for more than a minute and neptunes and snoop been hittin the top of the charts with shit like drop it like its hot which was off the chain...

he aint dependent on nobody, you dont last a whole 15 year career from a teenager to a grown ass man and continue to reinvent yourself as a rapper if you're dependent on somebody, he is one of the greatest ever, dont front

pz

note that Dre was not an executive producer on BCT, and yes that makes a difference for the final product as Jome pointed out.

but i disagree with you about dre needing snoop as much as snoop needs dre; Dre has enough talented people to work with for Detox, while Snoop was forced to work without his mentor too soon ( this is true, i've seen a snoop documentory, which included interviews with snoop in which he says that he was forced to stand on his own two feet too soon, because of Dre's departure from death row).
i'm not saying that Dre should be Snoop's babysitter, but snoop definately needs a mentor, to criticise his work and that person doesn't have to be dre; but dre just happens to be good at being an executive producer.
in other words, snoop needs to stop smoking so much.

i def agree that dre not being exec producer made a difference on BCT...but i think the beats dre gave him on that were garbage aswell...and about the snoop documentary, possibly he let snoop walk on his own too soon but talent is talent and for someone to be around for 15 years in the game still as relavent today as he was 10 years back says he dont need NOBODY...dre and snoop is a honour, not a need. Also i totally disagree about snoop needing dre more than dre needs snoop, you can say where would snoop have been without dre on dogystyle, but no other rapper in the world could put out a album like dogystyle....no other rapper could bless dre like snoop did on chornic, no other rapper could bring back that magic that all hiphop fans love about snoop and dre like snoop did on 2001....where would those albums be without snoop? they would be dope but nowhere near as dope as they would be snoop....thats why i say dre better have snoop on detox if he wants it too list as his third classic because in chronic, dogystlye, 2001 (3 classics)....the only 2 constants were snoop and dre so if dre wanna make detox classic, he better make sure he got snoop on it and i know he will be on it, dre wont let detox out without being blessed by snoop unless snoop for some reason says no...which i hope not, dre and snoop really need to make an album together.

pz

i was only talking about dre not necessarily needing snoop for detox, it was different in the past, but then again, who produced doggystyle and who made the best out of snoop?
offcourse snoop was important for dre in the past as well, he helped dre a lot after NWA.
but what i was trying to say is, Detox is not going to be a chronic something album; on 2001 snoop already made less appearances than on the Chronic, and it was Dre & the D.O.C. who helped make a track like Imagine for Snoop, and whether you liked it or not, that's the type of tracks Detox is going to have.
that doesn't imply that Snoop would be useless for detox, no, but i'm questioning your statement about snoop being so important for Detox.


Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: crip-hop on March 04, 2008, 12:31:53 AM
dre is a good producer but im tired of detox and him, hes 50s bitch now 8)
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: Birdie on March 04, 2008, 01:37:10 AM
At the same time, what would "The Chronic" or "2001" be without Snoop?  Definatly not the same man.

In my opinion... ''The Chronic'' or ''2001'' without Snoop? If you put Dr.Dre's stepbrother Warren G instead of Snoop Dogg on that records, you've got still the same classics (maybe biggest, nobody knows). Can you imagine Warren G on that tracks? ''Nuthin' But a G Thang'' with Warren G's verses? Damn, I feel it. Snoop got layback style on it, Warren G could do it too.

Maybe I sound like some hater and shit, but nope. I love Doggystyle & Tha Doggfather. I feel early Snoop plus he was rollin' with No Limit Soldiers and that's what I love too. But now, I've got mixed feelings. What he says, what he does. It could be better.
Title: Re: Snoop: "I don't need Dr. Dre"
Post by: messi19 on March 04, 2008, 02:03:17 AM
U gotta understand where he's comin from though he prolly get this question everyday, just like Bishop, Game, 50 and everybody else once/still associated with Dre.

And as far as DETOX im not even anticipating the shit until i hear a single. I stopped waitin for the shit like 4 years ago
its ridiculous now real talk. Either drop the shit or not damn, just think of how many albums he could've dropped instead
between these years instead of doin 1 and its STILL not out yet.