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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Kassem on November 22, 2006, 03:25:47 PM
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Why can faggots marry while a man can't marry more than one.thats some fucked up shit
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I got another one...
Why do people think it's cool for a guy to be fucking like 4 girlfriends but that it's outrageous and extreme for a man to have two wives and take care of them?
I'm telling you, conventional American thinking is backwards. Like Jalladin Rumi says, conventional opinion is the ruin of the soul.
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Im all for polygamy 8)
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ok can we get an opinion from someone who isnt a complete sand nigger or delusional midwestern white kid?
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I got another one...
Why do people think it's cool for a guy to be fucking like 4 girlfriends but that it's outrageous and extreme for a man to have two wives and take care of them?
I'm telling you, conventional American thinking is backwards. Like Jalladin Rumi says, conventional opinion is the ruin of the soul.
I don't think it's cool to have 4 girlfriends you are fucking, and most people against polygamy don't either. Go to any "player" in town and tell him you have 3 wives, you'll get more high fives than you will stern looks.
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I got another one...
Why do people think it's cool for a guy to be fucking like 4 girlfriends but that it's outrageous and extreme for a man to have two wives and take care of them?
I'm telling you, conventional American thinking is backwards. Like Jalladin Rumi says, conventional opinion is the ruin of the soul.
It's not natural for a man to have two women all to himself. Women are not property. They are souls and their soul is just as important as any man's soul. When a man and a woman decide to commit to each other, often the man provides protection, money, shelter and the woman provides love, takes care of the home, teaches the children. Men and women are completely different but equally valuable.
For you to think that 2 women are equal to 1 man shows the main fallacy of your religious studies.
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Why can faggots marry while a man can't marry more than one.thats some fucked up shit
Neither can. Marriage is just a word with a meaning, you can't change the meaning of the word. That would be like me trying to call having sex car. Hi Honey, lets go get in the car. She walks outside I stick a dick in her.
With that said I see no religious reasons why a man and another man can't get married. Techincally speaking, if it's against religion for two men to get married, it would also be against religion for two non-religious people to get married.... but yet we let that happen no problems.
I also think there's a difference between polygamy and homosexuality. Polygamy has no equation of equality whereas homosexuality potentially does.
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It's not natural for a man to have two women all to himself. Women are not property. They are souls and their soul is just as important as any man's soul. When a man and a woman decide to commit to each other, often the man provides protection, money, shelter and the woman provides love, takes care of the home, teaches the children. Men and women are completely different but equally valuable.
For you to think that 2 women are equal to 1 man shows the main fallacy of your religious studies.
^^How hypocritical is it that this is coming from a Mormon (or one who used to be a Mormon and propagate the Church of Latter Day Saints on this forum). The founder of Trauma's religion lived in America and had like 50 wives, they are still doing it to this day in Utah having like 30 or 40 wives.
And don't talk about nature and what is natural, check this out, if you put one man on an island with 99 women, you'd have 99 new babies every year and you'd know who the father is. Yet, if you put one woman on an island with 99 men, you'd have 1 new baby each year and nobody would know who the father was.
The Qu'ran allows for a man to marry 1-4 women. He's not forcing a woman to do anything. There are some women who don't mind. Some women even request it, I know this is hard for you to believe, but sometimes it is even requested. Sometimes women can't get pregnant, or have other concerns, and they would rather their husband marry another woman then destroy the family alltogether in divorce.
Also, some men can never be satisfied with just one woman. It's a fact of human nature. There are some men that are by nature polygamus, and some men who are by nature monogamous. If a man who is by nature monogamous tries to be polygymus he'll screw it up every time, likewise, if a man who is by nature polygamus tries to be monogamus, then he'll screw it up every time.
Look at President Clinton. You really expect the most powerful man in the world to have to go to bed with that frozen cunt Hillary every night? Meanwhile, leaders of Muslim countries have 4 wives and it doesn't damage their reputation at all and things run smoothly. The women accept them in marriage and their family never worries about money the rest of their lives and many women love nothing more than to be married to powerful men.
So Islam understands the nature of man and leaves options open to him so that all his affairs can be put in order. On the other hand, you find the Catholic church demanding celibacy from their priests (that's against human nature) and the results are often the molestation of alter boys.
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bryan you are so gay
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Let's be real here: who int he hell wants more than one wife? It's hard enough dealing with one woman.
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Let's be real here: who int he hell wants more than one wife? It's hard enough dealing with one woman.
Thats the whole thing, when its ONE she talks shit...
when its multiple, its a competition! ;D
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Also, some men can never be satisfied with just one woman. It's a fact of human nature. There are some men that are by nature polygamus, and some men who are by nature monogamous. If a man who is by nature monogamous tries to be polygymus he'll screw it up every time, likewise, if a man who is by nature polygamus tries to be monogamus, then he'll screw it up every time.
So Islam understands the nature of man and leaves options open to him so that all his affairs can be put in order. On the other hand, you find the Catholic church demanding celibacy from their priests (that's against human nature) and the results are often the molestation of alter boys.
Your argument is flawed.
It doesn't say in the Qur'an that men are allowed to have more than one wife because of "the nature of man"... that's your own assumption. The main reason for the permittance is due to the fact that there was a disproportionate amount of women who had nobody to take care of them (especially since many men died in war and battle)
If you want to talk about the nature of man, then wouldn't you agree that it is natural for man to feel the urge to satisfy his sexual desires? (THAT is a fact of human nature)... those are natural desires a man has... very different from consuming alcohol, taking drugs, etc... if it had to do with the nature of man, then why would pre-marital sex be considered a sin?
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Let's be real here: who int he hell wants more than one wife? It's hard enough dealing with one woman.
Thats the whole thing, when its ONE she talks shit...
when its multiple, its a competition! ;D
I like where your head is at, G.
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a man to have two wives and take care of them?
call me what you will ...::sighs::
but from what i've learned from the many relationships i've had ::sighs:: it's not the woman's job to take care of the man...::sighs again::it's....::sighs once more:: ....teamwork work you're suppose to take care of each other. i woman is support her man and a man is suppose to support his wife, and they're suppose to build each other up
if you had four show cars, you couldn't possibily build that cars potential up without having other men helping you. same with women....women are already complicated and needy as fuck , so there's no way you can build up, support, and please four women without having outside help....and ask yourself something fellas do you really want another man's dick in your wife?
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Why can faggots marry while a man can't marry more than one.thats some fucked up shit
With that said I see no religious reasons why a man and another man can't get married. Techincally speaking, if it's against religion for two men to get married, it would also be against religion for two non-religious people to get married.... but yet we let that happen no problems.
I didn't know that. In my religion (Christian Orthodox) the priest will not marry you if one of the two people is not Christian-Orthodox (obviously he also wouldn't if both aren't). You have to convert to the religion in order to marry with in it. I thought it was like that in all faiths
Now a legal marriage is different. The definition states man and woman, husband and wife. Now if the governemt wants to change the definition then by all means but until it does it'll still be man and woman for most people. Ofcourse then it opens the door for incest. I always wanted to go to pro same sex marraige rally with sings protesting for the legalization of incestual marriages and under age marriages, just to get a kick out of the crowd. Something like "THE GOVERNMENT HAS NO RIGHT TO TELL ME I CAN'T MARRY MY MOTHER, OR TEENAGE SON"
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^ I was speaking on a a philosophical level. Lemme explain better...
If a man and woman walk up to you and introduce themselves as man and wife, you accept it at face value and may even have a little bit of respect for their committment to each other. I do. When a guy introduces his wife, I think "damn, something solid!" because it's great to see people commit to each other (at least to me).
However; what if they're both athiests? Or if you're Christian, what if they're both Hindu's? Do you feel any less respect for them? I personally don't.... I've already made the decision (I think most people have, too) that marriage is more of a personal commitment than it is a religious commandment.
So if we'll freely allow people of other religions and non-religious people to get married and feel no ill-will towards them, there must not be much a precedent that it's a religious decision to get married.
I almost think of it (in my mind) like a religious marriage is just a ceremony that means something personal to the couple. I honestly see no difference in two athiests getting married and two christians geting married, and I'm a christian. So in my mind, I can't see how I can without being a hypocrite condemn two faggots for getting married... because I'll readily accept non-religious people getting married.
When it comes down to it, though, I would think that God probably would prefer everyone be a Christian and marry women and men, lol.
My whole belief of damnation has been destroyed way back when I was a child. I just don't believe God really gets that involved with things like we're talking about, I think he's much more interested in someone's intent and heart. That may just be me copping out... but I know when I meet someone, their heart and character is more important to me than what they look like or choose to live their life by. If my puny mind can understand that, I can't even comprehend how loving and fair and forgiving and generous God must be.
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If I was running the country here's how I'd do it; any two people would be able to get a civil union so that they could depend on each other, enjoy tax benefits, be able to see one another in emegency rooms, automatically leave all their belongings to their legal partner etc. Whether this is a union out of love or strictly business like two straight single guys wanting to save some cash is irrelevant to me. And marriage would be completely religious and have no bearing on the legal side what so ever. It would strictly be left to the churches, mosque, temples etc. If you wanted to get a legal union afterwards that's fine, if not that's fine too. I'd create new terms for each member of the legal union to avoid confusion with a husband and wife scenario. If two gay men want a legal union to profess their commitment to eachother then the government would have to grant them one. If a father and daughter want a legal union because the father wants all his possessions to go to his daughter in case of an accident and doesn't want to make up a will or wants a stronger or another legal bond to avoid confusion in the courts then the government would have to grant them one. Now if either the two gay men or the father and daughter want to to get "married" they would have to find a religious institute that would grant them one and have the right to refuse marrying anyone that institute wishes to refuse.