West Coast Connection Forum
Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Suffice on September 04, 2004, 04:31:07 PM
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I was watchin Ararat the other day and decided to make this poll. Few people know about the Armenian genocide during which nearly 2 million armenians were brutally massacred and starved by the turks.
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The word genocide came out from this massacre. It's a damn shame no one knows about it. I lost my great grandfather to the Turks.
BTW, how was Ararat? I never got to see it.
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Ararat is a pretty good movie. It has lots of depressing moments, but for the most part its a fictional movie and there's somethin in it for everyone so i'm surprised it never blew up. I suggest you see it if you have Armenian roots
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I've heard about it many times, but I dont know all the facts and exact story. Sad though :-\
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Don't know a thing about it, sadly, I don't really care.
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I'll sum it up a little bit: Modern Day Turkey is Historically Armenian land and up until the early 20's there were millions of Armenians residing in Turkey. Many people of high rank and economically well off people were Armenians. Then the situation in Turkey became bad, socially and economically when WWI broke out. Armenians got in the way of the Turks and they decided that they should get rid of the Armenians by driving them out of the country. In a matter of a couple of days after the decision was made by the Turkish Pasha all of the Armenian Elite were publically executed, their houses were burned, and their relatives tortured. The rest of the people were forced to leave their homes and march across the desert to Syria, Iran, and other surrounding countries. In the process of this genocide almost 2 million armenians died. To this day the Turkish government is denying the authenticity of the armenian genocide. They say that a few people were killed by accident, but that there was no systematic plan of extermination of the nation. During WWII during the extermination of many undesired races in the Third Reich Hitler had said "After all who remembers Armenians today." Some European countries have accepted the Armenian genocide, but the United States still hasn't accepted, although every president in the past 20 years had promised to accept the Armenian genocide prior to being elected. April 24th was agreed upon by all Armenians as a mourning day to the victims of the Armenian genocide and on this day Turkish embassies around the world close due to demonstrations and marches.
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Hmmm... well how do I know it really happened?
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There is a lot of proof. For one, my great grandmother's whole family died in the desert and her brother and she were the only survivors from a family of 7 children, so go figure. There are also lots of photographs of the massacres and even some documentaries shot with early cameras. i'm sure if you're in doubt you can find lots of information online if you just search for it.
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The only reason the US won't accept it is because they don't want to piss off Turkey and their relations with them. We're not Jewish so no one gives a fuck.
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It really is sad that only 3-4 people have posted an opinion on this issue...
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It really is sad that only 3-4 people have posted an opinion on this issue...
that's because the masses dont know and also dont give a shit about genocides besides the one Hitler did.
the Armenian related genocide was bad as fuck, so was the shit Stalin did. but who talks about these things?
all ppl care about is the murder of Jews by Nazis. this thing will never be forgotten. germans will always be considered Nazis by retards, while retards dont even know about those other genocides.
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It really is sad that only 3-4 people have posted an opinion on this issue...
that's because the masses dont know and also dont give a shit about genocides besides the one Hitler did.
the Armenian related genocide was bad as fuck, so was the shit Stalin did. but who talks about these things?
all ppl care about is the murder of Jews by Nazis. this thing will never be forgotten. germans will always be considered Nazis by retards, while retards dont even know about those other genocides.
Yeah, the stuff goin' down with Stalin was terrible as well.
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Yeah, I know about this....I used to go to an Armenian Populated school....had some Armenian friends that told me about it....fucked up shit
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The Holocaust was a lot harsher than the Genocide...You had hundreds of millions of people snatched from their homes by force to live in concentration camps, and over 10 million killed for NO REASON OTHER THAN THEIR RACE...Kids weren't given food, everyone was separated from their families, people were made slaves, they made them dig their own graves, and then were killed off...I HATE when people compare the Genocide to the Holocaust.
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Both tragedies took place during different eras. At least the Halocaust gets recognition. This government completely blows off the Genocide which disgusts me.
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The Holocaust was a lot harsher than the Genocide...You had hundreds of millions of people snatched from their homes by force to live in concentration camps, and over 10 million killed for NO REASON OTHER THAN THEIR RACE...Kids weren't given food, everyone was separated from their families, people were made slaves, they made them dig their own graves, and then were killed off...I HATE when people compare the Genocide to the Holocaust.
What do u know about the genocide??? U don't know shit, because if you did, you wouldn't be saying the shit that you said. Basically the same shit happened as during hte holocaust, but on a smaller scale. An there aren't even hundreds of millions of jews, and there never were, stop bending the facts. 10 million is an exaggerated number, history says that there were no more than 8 million Jews living in europe at the time of the holocaust. THey couldnt have all been killed, right? Many fled to russia and the USA. I know your history better than you know mine, so until that changes, shut your trap
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I will have to read up more about this, I didn't know what went down back then.
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The Holocaust was a lot harsher than the Genocide...You had hundreds of millions of people snatched from their homes by force to live in concentration camps, and over 10 million killed for NO REASON OTHER THAN THEIR RACE...Kids weren't given food, everyone was separated from their families, people were made slaves, they made them dig their own graves, and then were killed off...I HATE when people compare the Genocide to the Holocaust.
What do u know about the genocide??? U don't know shit, because if you did, you wouldn't be saying the shit that you said. Basically the same shit happened as during hte holocaust, but on a smaller scale. An there aren't even hundreds of millions of jews, and there never were, stop bending the facts. 10 million is an exaggerated number, history says that there were no more than 8 million Jews living in europe at the time of the holocaust. THey couldnt have all been killed, right? Many fled to russia and the USA. I know your history better than you know mine, so until that changes, shut your trap
WTF? Not only Jews were put in camps, you fucking moron...6 million Jews died...10 million PEOPLE OVERALL died...Damn dude, pay attention.
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the Rape of Nan King (or someshit like that) was another horrible act that i didn't hear about until i was in japan...what the japanese did to the chinese was horrid....and if you remember a little while back when all those japanese business men had that HUUUUGE orgy in china.... it was an insult to the chinese governement because it happened during the anniversary of the japanese invasion
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the Rape of Nan King (or someshit like that) was another horrible act that i didn't hear about until i was in japan...what the japanese did to the chinese was horrid....and if you remember a little while back when all those japanese business men had that HUUUUGE orgy in china.... it was an insult to the chinese governement because it happened during the anniversary of the japanese invasion
tell us more...
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the Rape of Nan King (or someshit like that) was another horrible act that i didn't hear about until i was in japan...what the japanese did to the chinese was horrid....and if you remember a little while back when all those japanese business men had that HUUUUGE orgy in china.... it was an insult to the chinese governement because it happened during the anniversary of the japanese invasion
At least this is included in the HIstory Books. I specifically remember reading about this in my 11th grade Bailey edition American Pageant book. I was unaware of this incident, and it wasn't a really huge orgy as you put it, it was thousands of soldiers raiding and looting a city, and raping the women in the process. Horrible, Horrible act.