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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Trauma-san on September 06, 2003, 11:52:03 AM
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Hi Guys;
I'm starting a new group here, kind of a charity/self-awareness organization. I'm angry that white students aren't getting fair opportunities because of affirmative action, so I have a new group i'm starting, it's called
"Zion", and all members must be white. If you're hispanic, or black, you're not allowed in my group. Also, my new motto is
"For white people everything, for blacks & mexicans, nothing"
What do ya think?
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you'z a mothafukking racist!! :( chuuuuuuuuuuuuch!!
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CHUUUUUUUCH!
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ur ass needs some (http://www.wcrydaz.com/gangstashit/images/smilies/16.gif)
racist biaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa iaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa iaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatch
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I know a Rican that is in MeCha soooo how does "For La Raza everything. For everbody else nothing" play there? Look man anybody can join MeCha
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you should the education of richard rodridgez... he is what my dad would call a Mexican Redneck.... he talks abouts how affirminaction wasnt a good idea.. i am serous too.. would help you with your argument.... :)
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What argument? I'm just saying, what do yall think of my club?
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I know a Rican that is in MeCha soooo how does "For La Raza everything. For everbody else nothing" play there? Look man anybody can join MeCha
Didn't I not to long ago ... state what Mecha was...?? was no one paying attention.......
Mecha is an Educational Movement ... that teaches the Latin Culture.... To all people ... just like American History that ... inquires for the White american....yet we Latinos. blacks, Asians ... etc. have to take it...
Mecha is not just for Mexicans.. It is for everyone ... who wants to learn a thing or two ... not only that... Chicano studies and Literature wasn't always available ... in schools.. So that's why the movement began ... not all Mexicans join mecha either.. I never join it.. because my Chicano and native American history was already passed down to me by my parents ... but their are people who like that stuff...
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Hi Guys;
I'm starting a new group here, kind of a charity/self-awareness organization. I'm angry that white students aren't getting fair opportunities because of affirmative action, so I have a new group i'm starting, it's called
"Zion", and all members must be white. If you're hispanic, or black, you're not allowed in my group. Also, my new motto is
"For white people everything, for blacks & mexicans, nothing"
What do ya think?
i think your a fuckin donkey !! :P
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nah trauma it dont work they got laws against us white people being able to be proud of being white now a days
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I've decided it would be wrong of me to only accept white people into my group. So, in the interests of fairness, if there are any black or mexican people out there that want to be in my pro-white, anti-everybody else group, I'll allow you in.
"For white people, everything, for blacks and mexicans, nothing"
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look trauma...that motto is pretty much referring to certain situations in which hispanics are still being opressed. Caucasian people dont get OPRESSED. So when MeCH.a says "For La Raza everything, and for everybody out of La Raza nothing" they are referring to chicano issues and how to tackle them. They are not gonna tackle issues that deal with other races.
the EPA....fuckers are just dealing with enviromental issues =/ damn why dont they go for World Peace? uhhh oh yea cuz they are the EPA they deal with ENVIROMENTAL issues
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"For white people, everything, for blacks and mexicans, nothing"
One of those assholes who'll use a clean handkerchief everytime he masturbates...
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sure its stupid, but dont yall see what trauma wants to show us?
whites cant do shit without being racists, blacks and others can start movements and say 'cracker' as much they want to, and if a white person calls such people racist, he's the racist.
what the fuck?
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"For white people, everything, for blacks and mexicans, nothing"
One of those assholes who'll use a clean handkerchief everytime he masturbates...
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sure its stupid, but dont yall see what trauma wants to show us?
whites cant do shit without being racists, blacks and others can start movements and say 'cracker' as much they want to, and if a white person calls such people racist, he's the racist.
what the fuck?
exactly if i say im white an proud there will be people that will be like well damn u think he is racist. but if a black person goes im black an proud it dont pop into any1's head that maybe hes a racist
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hold on here
there is a difference between being PROUD of your race and hating other races
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this so stupid...are u mad at the fact that minorites dont receive a fair chance frum the jump, because schools in predominantly minority neighborhoods have subpar education? Im pretty sure yur not mad...let alone, even give a shit about that. But i forgot, youre a republican lol.
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this so stupid...are u mad at the fact that minorites dont receive a fair chance frum the jump, because schools in predominantly minority neighborhoods have subpar education? Im pretty sure yur not mad...let alone, even give a shit about that. But i forgot, youre a republican lol.
yea take my school for example....
my school is 95% latinos...there are around 40-50 students per class with around 30-35 books and 30-35 desks. What the fuck is up wiht that? THen I have my cousin that lives in Fontana and she says that they have up to 3 BOOKS per one class...one for the class...one for you to carry around school...and one for your pad. Tha fuck is up with that?
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this so stupid...are u mad at the fact that minorites dont receive a fair chance frum the jump, because schools in predominantly minority neighborhoods have subpar education? Im pretty sure yur not mad...let alone, even give a shit about that. But i forgot, youre a republican lol.
yea take my school for example....
my school is 95% latinos...there are around 40-50 students per class with around 30-35 books and 30-35 desks. What the fuck is up wiht that? THen I have my cousin that lives in Fontana and she says that they have up to 3 BOOKS per one class...one for the class...one for you to carry around school...and one for your pad. Tha fuck is up with that?
^^yah, Kali is notorious for havin the worst schools in the country. And whats even worse...it isnt just High Schools, its Elementary and Middle Schools too. What chance does a kid who HAS to go to a shitty elementary school, where tha teachers often just dont even show up for class, and have the worst teachers in the country....to compete to get into college with someone who has the best learning facilities, and better environment for learning.
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btw, jus for tha record....in sum sense i feel Trauma. But dont completely agree with him. He's thinking of his own personal experience, rather the country as a whole. Which most would. Affirmative Action is good, but it should bring a LOT of factors in to play. More then just race and sex, but also a persons economic status, and combine all three, to determine admissions. Poor white people do get hurt frum Affirmative Action. But this is supposed to be a process of leveling the playing field, all around. For example, if one race...has a much higher poverty rate then another, how do u level that? (And no trauama, u dont just say..."Do it yurself!" When one side created the other sides poverty) Unfortunately, when u live in a country that has made a history of pushing down certain people, for centuries....when u finally need to right that, somebody will have to suffer. It doesnt do much for poor white people, but things have to be even...or else minorities in this country will ALWAYS be on bottom, remember...everyone has prejudice views, it isnt fair if only one sides prejudice views...actually have weight.
So like i said, in a way...i do feel u Trauma. U said before yur not rich, in fact...i think u said u grew up poor (i dont rememba). So for sum1 like u, Affirmative Action does nothing. But for the country as a whole, it does.
Ive used this analogy before, but if u have 2 equal runners...running a marathon, and one starts 5 miles ahead, theres only 2 ways to bring them even again. Ask the second runner, to just run faster (which they ARE equal, so they run at the same speed...and wouldnt be fair to the second runner), OR...slow down the first runner..and let the second one catch up, so that now they can race fairly.
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this so stupid...are u mad at the fact that minorites dont receive a fair chance frum the jump, because schools in predominantly minority neighborhoods have subpar education? Im pretty sure yur not mad...let alone, even give a shit about that. But i forgot, youre a republican lol.
well in new york minorities bitch about how no money is giving into there shcool but thats the opposite. In nassau county on long island what school is givin the most money. the worst rated school in an all black neighborhood.... ROOSEVELT. More money was pumped into that school than any other white school an yet the grades are horrible. the school is riddled with crime yet what is the excuse. an what about the city school when they were pumping money into school with mostly minorities. the school stil werent performing still lots of crime. what did they do.... they started busing kids from minoritys schools into schools that were doing good an what happened to those schools where the minorites were being bused to. those schools fell apart to. what the fuck is the excuse.
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this so stupid...are u mad at the fact that minorites dont receive a fair chance frum the jump, because schools in predominantly minority neighborhoods have subpar education? Im pretty sure yur not mad...let alone, even give a shit about that. But i forgot, youre a republican lol.
yea take my school for example....
my school is 95% latinos...there are around 40-50 students per class with around 30-35 books and 30-35 desks. What the fuck is up wiht that? THen I have my cousin that lives in Fontana and she says that they have up to 3 BOOKS per one class...one for the class...one for you to carry around school...and one for your pad. Tha fuck is up with that?
That's why my dad tranfered us to Fontana schools. Though, that was not true when I was there at least. We had to share books, and there was about 25 books to every 30 students. But oh well. I always had teacher that were the first to get books, so we had a whole class set to take home, class and what not. But we only had one book, not 3 for home and what not. Anyways, I know what Trauma is trying to say, but MEChA's saying was an old civil rights era type thing. There is a difference between white-non hispanic and white-hispanic (or regonized terms by the U.S. government) and that's WE WERE OPPRESSED AND TREATED LIKE SHIT. So at the time, MEChA was a student group dealing with issues that Chicanos had at the time. I got the brief history of MEChA according to UC Berkley for you. After all, the Berkley might be the most radical. So here you go.
Brief History: Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlán (MEChA) is one of the few contemporary student organizations that can trace its history to the beginnings of the Chicano movement. Through dedicated action on the behalf of Mechistas nationwide, our organization was key to the development of Chicana/o Studies and Chicana/o recruitment and retention centers. Through a philosophy of Chicana/o Nationalism, MEChA has not wavered from its original goal of Chicana/o control at the University. We continue to progress on a national level to maintain a powerful voice on behalf of our community.
Internal Structure: Berkeley MEChA is comprised of seven committees that work to serve our community on an off campus. Each committee is headed by 2 Mechistas (preferably one female and one male). Together the committees form the Mesa Directiva of Our Chapter. Although each committee work independently, each committee is directly accountable to the General Assembly.
External Structure: In order to achieve our goals at a national level, Berkeley MEChA works and interacts with various chapters throughout Aztlán. Berkeley MEChA is a nationally recognized chapter of the Alta Califas Norte MEChA Region and the Tlatokan Ameyal MEChA Central. Once a year, Berkeley MEChA participates in the National MEChA conference as well as the California Statewide MEChA Conference held once a semester. These conferences give chapters the opportunity to discuss pertinent issues that affect our community and our vital to the growth of MEChA.
Nuestros Documentos: Berkeley MEChA understands that our founding documents are the fundamentals to MEChA. We use El Plan de Aztlán, El Plan de Santa Barbara and the Philosophy of MEChA as useful tools that help define our role in institutions of higher learning. As Mechistas we are dedicated to the liberation of our gente through higher education.
Berkeley MEChA Youth Conference (MYC): Berkeley MEChA will host its 4th Annual MEChA Youth Conference on Saturday, May 3, 2003. Students from High Schools in the Bay Area and the Central Valley are invited. If any schools are interested in attending the 2003 Youth Conference please contact us at: myc@berkeleymecha.org or call 510.643.4076.
and here's a page of links for you. http://www.azteca.net/aztec/mecha/index.shtml
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this so stupid...are u mad at the fact that minorites dont receive a fair chance frum the jump, because schools in predominantly minority neighborhoods have subpar education? Im pretty sure yur not mad...let alone, even give a shit about that. But i forgot, youre a republican lol.
well in new york minorities bitch about how no money is giving into there shcool but thats the opposite. In nassau county on long island what school is givin the most money. the worst rated school in an all black neighborhood.... ROOSEVELT. More money was pumped into that school than any other white school an yet the grades are horrible. the school is riddled with crime yet what is the excuse. an what about the city school when they were pumping money into school with mostly minorities. the school stil werent performing still lots of crime. what did they do.... they started busing kids from minoritys schools into schools that were doing good an what happened to those schools where the minorites were being bused to. those schools fell apart to. what the fuck is the excuse.
yah we've had bussing out hea for yearz. As for the schools. Youve basically, instead of actually tryin to figure out what the REAL problem is, just wrote it off to tha idea that minorites are the problem. LOL. so in your eyes, whites are just that much better? im just getting your opinion strait. Am i correct? If u agree that all people are created equal regardless of race (which i still dont really think u do), then ud agree...that whatever problem there is in the minority neighborhoods/schools...is not the fault of the minorities living there...or else those same problems would be happening at "white schools".
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I'm thinking of variations on the motto. Maybe some of these
"White people deserve more than black and mexican people".
Or how about
"I want white people to have everything, and I want black and mexican people to have nothing".
Or
"White people are more important than black or mexican people".
What do yall think? Any winners there?
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I'm thinking of variations on the motto. Maybe some of these
"White people deserve more than black and mexican people".
Or how about
"I want white people to have everything, and I want black and mexican people to have nothing".
Or
"White people are more important than black or mexican people".
What do yall think? Any winners there?
damn....new Republican slogans!!!!
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No, it's just my little club, it's going to be in colleges all over america, it's called "Zion"., I thought you read the first part?
Apparently only 2 or 3 people have grabbed the intent here. LOL I thought it was pretty fucking obvious, but I guess not.
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No, it's just my little club, it's going to be in colleges all over america, it's called "Zion"., I thought you read the first part?
Apparently only 2 or 3 people have grabbed the intent here. LOL I thought it was pretty fucking obvious, but I guess not.
i doubt anyone has taken u seriously with this lol...but yah, it was "obviously" a poor attempt at humor.
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^^ No, it was a comment on another thread. You 'obviously' don't know what I'm talking about. There's no humour in it, just a lot of disgust, and ignorant fucking people. Racism is racism. Any fucking way you look at it, racism is racism. If you can't get that simple fact in your head, you're an idiot.
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this so stupid...are u mad at the fact that minorites dont receive a fair chance frum the jump, because schools in predominantly minority neighborhoods have subpar education? Im pretty sure yur not mad...let alone, even give a shit about that. But i forgot, youre a republican lol.
well in new york minorities bitch about how no money is giving into there shcool but thats the opposite. In nassau county on long island what school is givin the most money. the worst rated school in an all black neighborhood.... ROOSEVELT. More money was pumped into that school than any other white school an yet the grades are horrible. the school is riddled with crime yet what is the excuse. an what about the city school when they were pumping money into school with mostly minorities. the school stil werent performing still lots of crime. what did they do.... they started busing kids from minoritys schools into schools that were doing good an what happened to those schools where the minorites were being bused to. those schools fell apart to. what the fuck is the excuse.
yah we've had bussing out hea for yearz. As for the schools. Youve basically, instead of actually tryin to figure out what the REAL problem is, just wrote it off to tha idea that minorites are the problem. LOL. so in your eyes, whites are just that much better? im just getting your opinion strait. Am i correct? If u agree that all people are created equal regardless of race (which i still dont really think u do), then ud agree...that whatever problem there is in the minority neighborhoods/schools...is not the fault of the minorities living there...or else those same problems would be happening at "white schools".
u missed my point what im tryin to say is ur say minorites schools arent giving the same opportunites whites are. but i said they are giving more so when it comes to money for better learning facilities an there school are failing. what im tryin to say ur point of sayin minorities schools are failing b/c whites are givin more chances aint tru. also if they were tryin to write off minority's than why do they keep pumping money into the schools for better after school programs an for better learning facilities they did busing in new york b/c u can only try an improve a school so much b4 u start losing absurb amounts of money to bus those kids to schools that are passing in hopes they can improve there grades while decreasing the population in the failing school in order to provide more attention to those students. an what happened the failing schools kept failing an the passing schools brought down. an tone why are u tryin to turn this into tom's a racist again...why b/c i proved ur original statement to be false
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No Luv Fo Da Law......Fuck Da Law
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^^ No, it was a comment on another thread. You 'obviously' don't know what I'm talking about. There's no humour in it, just a lot of disgust, and ignorant fucking people. Racism is racism. Any fucking way you look at it, racism is racism. If you can't get that simple fact in your head, you're an idiot.
*hands Trauma a tissue*
Whats funny to me, is someone who is so "American"...and loves his country more then he understands it. But yet, would prefer for only half of its citizens to have a chance for success. Now THATS racist.
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White people have methodically biult up generations and generations of collective guilt. Guilt that is habitually suppressed by exacting more tyranny and turmoil upon the darker skinned races.
What white people need is to seek atonement for their sins as a collective race. We (white people) need to begin to bow our heads in unison to the will of Allah five times a day and ask for forgiveness; so that we can once again roam this Earth with the same freeness of character that darker skinned races enjoy.
Like the great Malcolm X said; if white people could begin to accept Islam; they could then shed the shackles of racism that have plagued them for so many years, and rejoice in the Oneness of God.
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*hands Trauma a tissue*
Whats funny to me, is someone who is so "American"...and loves his country more then he understands it. But yet, would prefer for only half of its citizens to have a chance for success. Now THATS racist.
---------------> Traumas point
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White people have methodically biult up generations and generations of collective guilt. Guilt that is habitually suppressed by exacting more tyranny and turmoil upon the darker skinned races.
What white people need is to seek atonement for their sins as a collective race. We (white people) need to begin to bow our heads in unison to the will of Allah five times a day and ask for forgiveness; so that we can once again roam this Earth with the same freeness of character that darker skinned races enjoy.
Like the great Malcolm X said; if white people could begin to accept Islam; they could then shed the shackles of racism that have plagued them for so many years, and rejoice in the Oneness of God.
LOL.
What about other races bowing their heads for their sins?
All Dark skinned people follow Islam?
I guess you've bowed your head, but you still seem like your acting guilty. Whats the deal with that?
It's ironic to me that in another thread you tell people that they should start thinking when it seems like you've stopped doing just that.
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I am just curious how you figure white people don't get fair opportunities in America due to affirmative action, or any other reason. I am white and I can honestly say I have never once been in a situation where I have been treated unfairly due to my skin color, but I have sure seen it the other way around. I and every other white person on this board have gotten advantages due to our race. You better learn about it. And quit your fucking bitchin about this shit. Can you not get a job, due to affirmative action? I highly doubt that. Get up off your lazy ass, anyone can get a job, it ain't hard. You get what you work for in this country. Bitching and whining ain't gonna get you nothin. Quit feeling sorry for yourselves and go out and do something about your life.
That goes out to every white american male on this board that feels like they have been mistreated due to race.
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To understand the point tramua was trying to make,
Do some research on MEChA and Cruz Bustamante
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And quit your fucking bitchin about this shit. Can you not get a job, due to affirmative action? I highly doubt that. Get up off your lazy ass, anyone can get a job, it ain't hard. You get what you work for in this country. Bitching and whining ain't gonna get you nothin. Quit feeling sorry for yourselves and go out and do something about your life.
LMAO.... How ironic.... Trauma says the same thing you just did to minorities :D
Proof that Trauma is a hypocrit.
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To understand the point tramua was trying to make,
Do some research on MEChA and Cruz Bustamante
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To understand the point tramua was trying to make,
Do some research on MEChA and Cruz Bustamante
You have to understand that in this world times change, and people change. Just because something is one way at one point, doesn't mean it remains that way forever. Democrats in the past (1800's) were known to be racist. Is that true for all Democrats today? No. My point is, just because MeCha was so radical at one point, doesn't mean it is today. In addition, the whole organization didn't hold those beliefs that Trauma was referring to. During the 60s everything going on in this country was radical. There were movements going on all over for all sorts of different things. So please, YOU READ UP ON MECHA, so YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WTF IS GOING ON. If MeCha as an organization believed that "For the race everything.....", do you think it would exist in our public high schools? Please open your eyes and stop using the beliefs of a small percentage of members to generalize the whole organization.
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To understand the point tramua was trying to make,
Do some research on MEChA and Cruz Bustamante
You have to understand that in this world times change, and people change. Just because something is one way at one point, doesn't mean it remains that way forever. Democrats in the past (1800's) were known to be racist. Is that true for all Democrats today? No. My point is, just because MeCha was so radical at one point, doesn't mean it is today. In addition, the whole organization didn't hold those beliefs that Trauma was referring to. During the 60s everything going on in this country was radical. There were movements going on all over for all sorts of different things. So please, YOU READ UP ON MECHA, so YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WTF IS GOING ON. If MeCha as an organization believed that "For the race everything.....", do you think it would exist in our public high schools? Please open your eyes and stop using the beliefs of a small percentage of members to generalize the whole organization.
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lol@ Engel...
Him and Trauma have the same mindset on arguing...
"If u dont agree with my point, then u dont understand it" lol
*shakin mah head*
Sorry that u guys cant prove your point better...
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Crazy times during the 60s when MeCha was started...compared to MeCha's agendas today
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To understand the point tramua was trying to make,
Do some research on MEChA and Cruz Bustamante
Thank fucking GOD.
This post obviously, to any of the educated, has nothing to do with afirmative action. It was just a comment, I said the exact same thing, with the races reversed, that Mecha & Cruz Bustamante said, and yet I'm called a racist, a hypocrite, all this bullshit.
RACISM IS RACISM. It doesn't matter if it's against blacks, mexicans, or whites. Racism is exclusion based on race. That's exactly what cruz bustamante does, and exactly what Mecha does, it's right there in their fucking motto, you don't even HAVE to know anything about them. Just like this post, anybody that says "everything for my race, nothing for all the other races" is a fucking racist, it doesn't matter what the race is. Cruz is a dirty, despicable, low life fucking racist, and I can't stand a racist. M Dogg, and all the others trying to take up for him, fuck you too, you shoud distance yourself from someone with such a low view of my fucking WHITE race, that I am proud to be a member of.
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Bush has nothing against Muslims does he? ::)
LoL... That's why he uses terms such as "crusade"... LMAO... it's the 21st century... pathetic fuckin guy we have for our president and leader of the free world.
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That has nothing to do with the topic, dumbass. Make another thread, I'll fuck your shit up over there too.
The motto is racist, anyway you look at it. It's a shame that people don't see this, yall should be outraged that it's giving the honorable hispanic heritage a bad name. If Mecha doesn't stand for this, then Cruz should at least denounce the fucking motto, but he refused. that's because he agrees with the motto, and is a racist.
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lol@ this...
must be difficult for white males in this country...i mean, all the minorites have it so easy. Maybe one day we'll actually even have a white, male...president, seeing as how its so hard to come up from that struggle known as the suburbs. Just "pick yurself up by yur bootstraps" Trauma, i have faith in you to be sumthing....one day. lol
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^^lol