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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: MIAMI4LIFE on February 07, 2007, 03:34:47 PM
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this will definitely get him to platinum, he was on MTV saying that he will rerelease it and that he might retire after his next album cause he doesn't like the state of hiphop and wants to spend more time with his son
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Yeah an interview with his manager said the same thing recently.
and even though I like Game alot (actually gonna see him at the House of Blues tomorrow), I think he's gonna retire after his next album cause the state of hip hop is...he's not nearly as well loved by people as 5 million first go round make him think he was. I have to admit, if I went from 5 plat to barely one plat, I'd get my feelings hurt. Even though 1 plat is a dream come true for alot of people, say he got Plat easy he'd be down but he's struggling to go plat but at the same time it's only the second single deep into the record. Any artist that did 5 plat should get at least 3 singles. But yeah i think he's 'leavin the game' cause he ain't getting the love he wanted.
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Yeah an interview with his manager said the same thing recently.
and even though I like Game alot (actually gonna see him at the House of Blues tomorrow), I think he's gonna retire after his next album cause the state of hip hop is...he's not nearly as well loved by people as 5 million first go round make him think he was. I have to admit, if I went from 5 plat to barely one plat, I'd get my feelings hurt. Even though 1 plat is a dream come true for alot of people, say he got Plat easy he'd be down but he's struggling to go plat but at the same time it's only the second single deep into the record. Any artist that did 5 plat should get at least 3 singles. But yeah i think he's 'leavin the game' cause he ain't getting the love he wanted.
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Come on, you really think he will leave the game? Does anyone ever really quit the rap game? Nah, cuz they are all attention whores............this is just a gimmick for his next release, Jay did it, Master P did it, Too Short did it, etc etc.
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Yeah an interview with his manager said the same thing recently.
and even though I like Game alot (actually gonna see him at the House of Blues tomorrow), I think he's gonna retire after his next album cause the state of hip hop is...he's not nearly as well loved by people as 5 million first go round make him think he was. I have to admit, if I went from 5 plat to barely one plat, I'd get my feelings hurt. Even though 1 plat is a dream come true for alot of people, say he got Plat easy he'd be down but he's struggling to go plat but at the same time it's only the second single deep into the record. Any artist that did 5 plat should get at least 3 singles. But yeah i think he's 'leavin the game' cause he ain't getting the love he wanted.
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I agree with what you're saying but that 5 plat was worldwide sales, he sold about 2.5 million in the US with his last album, plus sales are even down from what they were in 2005 when he released The Documentary, so it isn't as bad as people make it out to be
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I agree that's why i put 'leavin' the game' in quotation marks, I'm saying the reason he's saying that is cause he's not as succesful in the Game as he thought he'd be. right when the album came out/just before he was like "yeah i'ma release an album a year till I'm 30 and then retire".
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I don't think he'll "retire." How he is going to support his family? I know he's got money, but still... do you guys think he would just "quit?" I mean, look at Nas. He knows Hip Hop isn't in good shape, but he keeps grinding.
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I don't think he'll "retire." How he is going to support his family? I know he's got money, but still... do you guys think he would just "quit?" I mean, look at Nas. He knows Hip Hop isn't in good shape, but he keeps grinding.
Nas is that ninja.
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I kinda feel sorry for Game (no sarcazam). You can tell he put a LOT of effort on this projects and the numbers just didnt add up. Plus his situation is all fucked up when it comes to getting paid for selling cds. Dre, 50 and some other dude people are talking about are all getting that money.
But rappers are stupid like that. Same with the LOX/Puffy bullshit. They just dont read the contracts.
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I kinda feel sorry for Game (no sarcazam). You can tell he put a LOT of effort on this projects and the numbers just didnt add up. Plus his situation is all fucked up when it comes to getting paid for selling cds. Dre, 50 and some other dude people are talking about are all getting that money.
But rappers are stupid like that. Same with the LOX/Puffy bullshit. They just dont read the contracts.
I don't know if dude's not getting paid I think it's more like he's not reaching the success with this record's sales that he thought he would.
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Games album is top 5 of the year should be selling more....
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Games album is top 5 of the year should be selling more....
co-sign, best West Coast release of 2006
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this will definitely get him to platinum, he was on MTV saying that he will rerelease it and that he might retire after his next album cause he doesn't like the state of hiphop and wants to spend more time with his son
SOmeone's trying to follow the Jay-Z formula.
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Game's shit should be selling better though it is banging and I hear people bump it all the time, I bet 1/10 of the people that bump it bought it.
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Good to hear that he re-release the album, maybe we will hear finally the leftovers like hustler's dream, because the snippet sounded really good.
I just think the luck is not on game's side, he's always in trouble.
Hopefully he won't retire after his next one, he's a dope MC.
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I think game's just doin that just to get attention.. he's too young to Quiit.. and plus.. he alway's.. say's shit.. than wind's up being the other way around.. for example.. When he said that he Aquashed the Beef With 50.. than again.. dude starts dissin again.. and another one.. is when.. he was singing that one song dedicated to Dre... "Doctors Advocate" feat busta.. and than dude.. say's in an interview that he dosent care about Dre.. so honestly at times dude talks out of his ass.. i aint talkin shit.. just speakin tha truth..
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word, but he puts together good albums and even the mixtape material of him i've heard I like...he's not like the dopest MC but most of the tracks he's on are hot in some way. I like the remix with him of Guns that meech put on the joker mixtape too.
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The stupid thing about Game is that when he didn't say anything about dre doing the production.
I don't how you guys come up with a conclusion that he'll quit. I'm sure he'll starve with his music career.
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The stupid thing about Game is that when he didn't say anything about dre doing the production.
I don't how you guys come up with a conclusion that he'll quit. I'm sure he'll starve with his music career.
i don't understand your dre comment.
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bangin cd....but i dont think jigga has gone 2 times platinum so you really think game would reach platinum yet?.....sales are at an all time low.....about re-releasing the cd....good idea but we will see if it ever happens....and we all know game making his paper....but i think he feels he should be making more for what he done in a small amount of time music wise...
peace
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bangin cd....but i dont think jigga has gone 2 times platinum so you really think game would reach platinum yet?.....sales are at an all time low.....about re-releasing the cd....good idea but we will see if it ever happens....and we all know game making his paper....but i think he feels he should be making more for what he done in a small amount of time music wise...
peace
i don't even think it's the money, I think it's the platinum status thing.
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Game is a little baby. He can't go plat so he retires? What a mainstream sell out tool. Does E-40 go plat with every release? No.
This just proves what I've always known, Game doesn't care about the west coast. He drops one album that doesn't go as expected and he plans for retirement? This proves Game is a poor, selfish artist, whos only in it for the money. People like Snoop, Cube, E-40 and all them are 10x the artists The Game will ever be. Why? Because they've all put in years of work to get where they are.
Game was handed his career, he didn't work for it. Thats why he doesn't appreciate it. The album wasn't even that good anyways. He made it to make money. That didn't work, so now hes retiring. Some artist.
Game's shit should be selling better though it is banging and I hear people bump it all the time, I bet 1/10 of the people that bump it bought it.
It sold 700,000. Cube sold 500,000, Snoop sold 650,000. And both their albums were better. People dick ride Game like he puts meals on their tables. The guy isn't very good at all. His lyrics are bad, his personality is bad, his attitude is bad, and his way of running BWS is bad. Whats good about him? He loves Dre more then all of us, I guess thats good. His company pays for good beats. Thats good. Find some better music. And leave this cookie cutter, mainstream shit in the trash.
sales are at an all time low
Thats just an excuss. Akon, Justin Timberlake, Nelly Furtado, Jay-Z are all selling just fine. The dick riders bought the Games album, and theirs no one lef to buy it. It wasn't a good album. Thats why its not selling.
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yeah true SALES ARE WAY DOWN
goin platinum is a like 3x Plat was 3 years ago... so hittin PLAT is a damn nice #
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yeah true SALES ARE WAY DOWN
goin platinum is a like 3x Plat was 3 years ago... so hittin PLAT is a damn nice #
co-sign, the days of 1st week million sales are long gone, Game did 350k his first week the same amount than Nas and Jeezy did and all you hear is how Game's album flopped
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yeah true SALES ARE WAY DOWN
goin platinum is a like 3x Plat was 3 years ago... so hittin PLAT is a damn nice #
co-sign, the days of 1st week million sales are long gone, Game did 350k his first week the same amount than Nas and Jeezy did and all you hear is how Game's album flopped
because he was talking all kinds of shit, Nas didn't even say no 'I'm ado these numbers...." so he gets no flack for it, Game it's gonna come up cause he spoke on that shit.
Game is a little baby. He can't go plat so he retires? What a mainstream sell out tool. Does E-40 go plat with every release? No.
This just proves what I've always known, Game doesn't care about the west coast. He drops one album that doesn't go as expected and he plans for retirement? This proves Game is a poor, selfish artist, whos only in it for the money. People like Snoop, Cube, E-40 and all them are 10x the artists The Game will ever be. Why? Because they've all put in years of work to get where they are.
Game was handed his career, he didn't work for it. Thats why he doesn't appreciate it. The album wasn't even that good anyways. He made it to make money. That didn't work, so now hes retiring. Some artist.
Game's shit should be selling better though it is banging and I hear people bump it all the time, I bet 1/10 of the people that bump it bought it.
It sold 700,000. Cube sold 500,000, Snoop sold 650,000. And both their albums were better. People dick ride Game like he puts meals on their tables. The guy isn't very good at all. His lyrics are bad, his personality is bad, his attitude is bad, and his way of running BWS is bad. Whats good about him? He loves Dre more then all of us, I guess thats good. His company pays for good beats. Thats good. Find some better music. And leave this cookie cutter, mainstream shit in the trash.
sales are at an all time low
Thats just an excuss. Akon, Justin Timberlake, Nelly Furtado, Jay-Z are all selling just fine. The dick riders bought the Games album, and theirs no one lef to buy it. It wasn't a good album. Thats why its not selling.
you make good points but I still think DA is a banger.
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Flopping has zero to do with sales. Flopping has to do with profits. If they spent 5 million making an album, and it goes gold, it flopped. If they spend a million and it goes gold, its a success. Game's album flopped because they spend so much money on it, and it did poorly. Paying all those producers, all those features, all that promotion. They expected it to sell millions so they spent millions.
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Flopping has zero to do with sales. Flopping has to do with profits. If they spent 5 million making an album, and it goes gold, it flopped. If they spend a million and it goes gold, its a success. Game's album flopped because they spend so much money on it, and it did poorly. Paying all those producers, all those features, all that promotion. They expected it to sell millions so they spent millions.
hm...don't know that they lost money....say they spent 5 million on it...you sell 500,000 copies, multiply that by let's say even as little as 10 bucks per copy that's 50 million bucks...now add the fact that he sold substantially more than 500,000 and charged substantially more than 10 bucks per copy in many cases and they could only have lost by so much, I think everyone got paid...dude just didn't go platinum.-ach fucked up the math...nah, you may be right, they may have barely made their money back.
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Game is a little baby. He can't go plat so he retires? What a mainstream sell out tool. Does E-40 go plat with every release? No.
This just proves what I've always known, Game doesn't care about the west coast. He drops one album that doesn't go as expected and he plans for retirement? This proves Game is a poor, selfish artist, whos only in it for the money. People like Snoop, Cube, E-40 and all them are 10x the artists The Game will ever be. Why? Because they've all put in years of work to get where they are.
Game was handed his career, he didn't work for it. Thats why he doesn't appreciate it. The album wasn't even that good anyways. He made it to make money. That didn't work, so now hes retiring. Some artist.
Game's shit should be selling better though it is banging and I hear people bump it all the time, I bet 1/10 of the people that bump it bought it.
It sold 700,000. Cube sold 500,000, Snoop sold 650,000. And both their albums were better. People dick ride Game like he puts meals on their tables. The guy isn't very good at all. His lyrics are bad, his personality is bad, his attitude is bad, and his way of running BWS is bad. Whats good about him? He loves Dre more then all of us, I guess thats good. His company pays for good beats. Thats good. Find some better music. And leave this cookie cutter, mainstream shit in the trash.
sales are at an all time low
Thats just an excuss. Akon, Justin Timberlake, Nelly Furtado, Jay-Z are all selling just fine. The dick riders bought the Games album, and theirs no one lef to buy it. It wasn't a good album. Thats why its not selling.
oh nooooooo, brant still rockin the gunit thong.....
gunit must be making the worst music right now then if we want to speak about how much niggaz are selling in comparison to quality of music....nas album is bangin....but u know, it will take a long ass time for that to reach platinum....i guess his album is wack???lol......justin would always sell records.....but his records sales aint shit.....usher sold 10 mill???.....justin should be selling half that atleast, white girls LOVE justin....i mean LOVE....i dunno how many units akon selling, but akon making moves...no doubt.....jay-z selling fine??......the nigga had like a 75% percent week drop cuz everyone knows nigga did his own dealing with his cd....snoop is my fav rapper....but games album is better...snoop let me down, i aint tripping......games album is sick......imo....
speaking of artists just in it for the money and then out....that would mean 50 is the same....and sales dont mean album is amazing...massare is a great example...encore is a great example.........
.....but u know what, even though i checked u on this, imma leave it now cuz we all know brant is on some gunit dickrider/game hater tip..........
but u know, imma be happy bumpin grodt and DA/THE DOC
peaceee
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Flopping has zero to do with sales. Flopping has to do with profits. If they spent 5 million making an album, and it goes gold, it flopped. If they spend a million and it goes gold, its a success. Game's album flopped because they spend so much money on it, and it did poorly. Paying all those producers, all those features, all that promotion. They expected it to sell millions so they spent millions.
hm...don't know that they lost money....say they spent 5 million on it...you sell 500,000 copies, multiply that by let's say even as little as 10 bucks per copy that's 50 million bucks...now add the fact that he sold substantially more than 500,000 and charged substantially more than 10 bucks per copy in many cases and they could only have lost by so much, I think everyone got paid...dude just didn't go platinum.-ach fucked up the math...nah, you may be right, they may have barely made their money back.
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500,000 x 10$/copy is 5,000,000. But it doesn't matter because we don't know how much it costed or how much they made. Everyone got paid, but the expectation was way to high.
gunit must be making the worst music right now then if we want to speak about how much niggaz are selling in comparison to quality of music....nas album is bangin....but u know, it will take a long ass time for that to reach platinum....i guess his album is wack???lol......justin would always sell records.....but his records sales aint shit.....usher sold 10 mill???.....justin should be selling half that atleast, white girls LOVE justin....i mean LOVE....i dunno how many units akon selling, but akon making moves...no doubt.....jay-z selling fine??......the nigga had like a 75% percent week drop cuz everyone knows nigga did his own dealing with his cd....snoop is my fav rapper....but games album is better...snoop let me down, i aint tripping......games album is sick......imo....
The ignorance of your post is, your hating on me for hating on Game. What are you doing? Hating on artists. Games album is better the Snoops. Thats your opinion buddy. Your hating on G-Unit, how is that different then me hating on The Game? Please man, don't turn this into an arguement about who makes better music. Arguing which rapper is better is like cutting off your leg because you don't want to walk to the fridge. Its just retarded.
I'm simply stating, Game "quiting" rap music shows his true character as an artist.
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c'mon dawg, every rapper is quittin rap music...lol
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c'mon dawg, every rapper is quittin rap music...lol
LMAO +1
TRUTH
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Game is a little baby. He can't go plat so he retires? What a mainstream sell out tool. Does E-40 go plat with every release? No.
This just proves what I've always known, Game doesn't care about the west coast. He drops one album that doesn't go as expected and he plans for retirement? This proves Game is a poor, selfish artist, whos only in it for the money. People like Snoop, Cube, E-40 and all them are 10x the artists The Game will ever be. Why? Because they've all put in years of work to get where they are.
Game was handed his career, he didn't work for it. Thats why he doesn't appreciate it. The album wasn't even that good anyways. He made it to make money. That didn't work, so now hes retiring. Some artist.
Game's shit should be selling better though it is banging and I hear people bump it all the time, I bet 1/10 of the people that bump it bought it.
It sold 700,000. Cube sold 500,000, Snoop sold 650,000. And both their albums were better. People dick ride Game like he puts meals on their tables. The guy isn't very good at all. His lyrics are bad, his personality is bad, his attitude is bad, and his way of running BWS is bad. Whats good about him? He loves Dre more then all of us, I guess thats good. His company pays for good beats. Thats good. Find some better music. And leave this cookie cutter, mainstream shit in the trash.
sales are at an all time low
Thats just an excuss. Akon, Justin Timberlake, Nelly Furtado, Jay-Z are all selling just fine. The dick riders bought the Games album, and theirs no one lef to buy it. It wasn't a good album. Thats why its not selling.
Um, last time i checked, whether an album is good or not does not mean it will sell or not sell- what world do you live in man? If you look at Games album, you can tell he put a lot of effort in to make the album quality in terms of finding the right beats, etc, but he is missing one thing- a big single. Noone sells shit without a top 10 single(except Jay-Z with KC, and he had more promotion than any album in recent history) I'm not the biggest Game fan in the world, in fact i find his lyrics downright horrible, but then again if i want lyrics i don't go to commercial wannabe gangbanging rappers. Game actually dropped a solid overall album, and i think he has reason to feel pissed off as far as sales, cuz he put alot into the record. THe problem is, dude cannot make a hit without Dre/50, its too bad. BUt i hate the fake ass retire talk, fuck that shit. Just keep making quality albums, and maybe even step the lyrics up
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He's not retiring, he just wants attention. I'm a fan of his music but says dumb shit all the time.
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game shoudl focus on doing good music instead of carring that much about the sales, most rappers who sell 50 000 indedantly make way more money than fake ass bloods in compton. He wanna leave the rap game because he don't like doing it , that's the reason.
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I don't think he'll "retire." How he is going to support his family? I know he's got money, but still... do you guys think he would just "quit?" I mean, look at Nas. He knows Hip Hop isn't in good shape, but he keeps grinding.
Nas is that ninja.
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NAs a ninja? hahaha
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The stupid thing about Game is that when he didn't say anything about dre doing the production.
I don't how you guys come up with a conclusion that he'll quit. I'm sure he'll starve with his music career.
i don't understand your dre comment.
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oh, I meant when he was on 106 and park one day trying to promote his DA. People were asking him if Dr. Dre was producing his album. Game said, "you better buy it and find out yourself."
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game changes his mind every single day...who knows how many albums he's really gonna make...
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Yeah an interview with his manager said the same thing recently.
and even though I like Game alot (actually gonna see him at the House of Blues tomorrow), I think he's gonna retire after his next album cause the state of hip hop is...he's not nearly as well loved by people as 5 million first go round make him think he was. I have to admit, if I went from 5 plat to barely one plat, I'd get my feelings hurt. Even though 1 plat is a dream come true for alot of people, say he got Plat easy he'd be down but he's struggling to go plat but at the same time it's only the second single deep into the record. Any artist that did 5 plat should get at least 3 singles. But yeah i think he's 'leavin the game' cause he ain't getting the love he wanted.
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Come on, you really think he will leave the game? Does anyone ever really quit the rap game? Nah, cuz they are all attention whores............this is just a gimmick for his next release, Jay did it, Master P did it, Too Short did it, etc etc.
even DMX did it
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Doctor's Advocate souds really good
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It would be dope if he puts some Bonus cuts on there. All The One Blood Remixes
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how can the game leave the game when he is the game? ??? ???
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He wont retire, just a bunch of bullshit.
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how can the game leave the game when he is the game? ??? ???
the game cant leave the game unless the game leaves the game since he is the game he cant leave the game but the game can leave the game ???
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how can the game leave the game when he is the game? ??? ???
the game cant leave the game unless the game leaves the game since he is the game he cant leave the game but the game can leave the game ???
so you saying that the game cant leave the game but if the game leave the game the game isnt in the game but the game still is but the game isnt in the game? ???
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how can the game leave the game when he is the game? ??? ???
the game cant leave the game unless the game leaves the game since he is the game he cant leave the game but the game can leave the game ???
so you saying that the game cant leave the game but if the game leave the game the game isnt in the game but the game still is but the game isnt in the game? ???
Exactly :)
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Rappers Retiring? hahahaha
Scarface the latest rapper to 'Retire' is back in the studio recording an album.
Remember years back when Too Short retired and threw a party n everythang, he has released plenty of records since.
Retiring rappers ::)
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Man, Geffen and Game need to start promoting and pushing the album. They did not have a plan after the beef shit did not get them the sales they thought they should have. Just promote, drop singles and THEN drop a re release. You have not even worked the full potential of the album yet. He already got almost a 8% bump since Wouldn't Get Far came out. I would let that song do its thing a drop 1 more single before I would re release it again.
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how can the game leave the game when he is the game? ??? ???
the game cant leave the game unless the game leaves the game since he is the game he cant leave the game but the game can leave the game ???
so you saying that the game cant leave the game but if the game leave the game the game isnt in the game but the game still is but the game isnt in the game? ???
Exactly :)
Cool 8)
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Man, Geffen and Game need to start promoting and pushing the album. They did not have a plan after the beef shit did not get them the sales they thought they should have. Just promote, drop singles and THEN drop a re release. You have not even worked the full potential of the album yet. He already got almost a 8% bump since Wouldn't Get Far came out. I would let that song do its thing a drop 1 more single before I would re release it again.
Wouldn't get far should've been the second single instead of Let's Ride, they released it too late, they already stopped playing Wouldn't Get Far here in NYC after bumping it for 2 months on Hot 97, Game is at around 820k right now so he definitely will see plat but this album could've been a lot bigger
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Man, Geffen and Game need to start promoting and pushing the album. They did not have a plan after the beef shit did not get them the sales they thought they should have. Just promote, drop singles and THEN drop a re release. You have not even worked the full potential of the album yet. He already got almost a 8% bump since Wouldn't Get Far came out. I would let that song do its thing a drop 1 more single before I would re release it again.
Wouldn't get far should've been the second single instead of Let's Ride, they released it too late, they already stopped playing Wouldn't Get Far here in NYC after bumping it for 2 months on Hot 97, Game is at around 820k right now so he definitely will see plat but this album could've been a lot bigger
A good friend of mine today told me he thought a video for 'around the world' with Jamie would move mad units. his argument made sense.
i think 'too much' is ridiculously catchy but everyone keeps tellin' me it's too gangsta to sell.
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Game is trash!!!
Just cause he sells whateva albums doesn't mean he's goood!! I luv West Coast Rap for me it's way better than other styles but it's gettin lost!! It needs to find it's roots again and it don't start wit "Game" he has nothing 2 say!!! Good beats and graeat production doesn't make U a good artist it means U have great people around U!!!
Game is boring as SHIT!!! Some1 mention Scarface! now that guy never "retired" it way just media shit!! If a lot of rappers took his direction there would be a lot more great albums out there!! X-Clan's new album is great not West Coast but a trum Hip Hip album!! Same as Nas! These guys are trying 2 fix the state of "HIP HOP" not the fairytail bullshit that out there now!!! All newbee's that Luv rap should go listen 2 the artists that started this shit & compare the MC skillz 2 that of 2days "NEW" & "HOT" artist and see what a true MC sounds like!! I ain't given no names cause if U don't know then U'll never Know!!!!
Hip Hop will live on!!!
Peace
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Game is trash!!!
Just cause he sells whateva albums doesn't mean he's goood!! I luv West Coast Rap for me it's way better than other styles but it's gettin lost!! It needs to find it's roots again and it don't start wit "Game" he has nothing 2 say!!! Good beats and graeat production doesn't make U a good artist it means U have great people around U!!!
Game is boring as SHIT!!! Some1 mention Scarface! now that guy never "retired" it way just media shit!! If a lot of rappers took his direction there would be a lot more great albums out there!! X-Clan's new album is great not West Coast but a trum Hip Hip album!! Same as Nas! These guys are trying 2 fix the state of "HIP HOP" not the fairytail bullshit that out there now!!! All newbee's that Luv rap should go listen 2 the artists that started this shit & compare the MC skillz 2 that of 2days "NEW" & "HOT" artist and see what a true MC sounds like!! I ain't given no names cause if U don't know then U'll never Know!!!!
Hip Hop will live on!!!
Peace
good post but one of the dudes you mentioned Nas said several times that he is a big fan of Game, I wasn't feeling Game at first but after listening to his guest spots recently I'm starting to change my mind about him, he had by far the best verse on Anybody Killa and was just as dope as Nas on Hustlers
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Bottom line, Game used 50's approach but it failed. He did not have a plan after all that beef. The One Blood remix was good, but they were so sure the hype surrounding Game was going to push this platinum. Hardly anyone promotes and pushes a album anymore. Cube is a good example of someone that has.
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Game's album isn't a failure. Let's keep in perspective that this album has only been out for 4 months. It is certified platinum by the RIAA and has sold a little less than 900,000 units in that time. I can easily see this album hitting 1.3 mill- 1.7 mil by the time everything is said and done. Considering the sales slump in rap music and g-unit, that isn't bad... The G-Unit sound isn't hot anymore, no offense, but Game should have never relased Let's Ride as a second single.. It sounds too much like a G-Unit song..
It's funny, because it seems like its the same posters in these 'game' debates. Everyone wants to credit him as former g-unit soldier but then they want to turn around and compare him to Justin, Jay-Z, etc etc. Then some of you get butt hurt when Game makes bold statements as if no other rapper makes bold statements. lol.. Sometimes i wonder if ya'll even listen to rap for over a year.
As for the retiring thing, the other guy said it.. Every rapper has played with thought of retiring. Including Tupac. So what, is 2pac a bitch too? Remember when he said he was no longer a 'thug' and thug life and rapping was over? He said that right before he released Me Against The World, All Eyes On Me, Makaveli The Don, which in my opinion, is some of his better work.
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He did not have a plan after all that beef.
Like America to Iraq!
It's funny, because it seems like its the same posters in these 'game' debates. Everyone wants to credit him as former g-unit soldier but then they want to turn around and compare him to Justin, Jay-Z, etc etc. Then some of you get butt hurt when Game makes bold statements as if no other rapper makes bold statements. lol.. Sometimes i wonder if ya'll even listen to rap for over a year.
I don't get the justin/jay z comparisons. also, how is it certified platinum if it's not 1 mil sold yet?
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Game hit a pot hole and ate it after takin the "Dre training" wheels off.
no bullshiet. Game is still too mature to make a whole fucken record by himslef...i support him in his music and shit, but i know because of his fucken ego, he puts limitations on his performance/ track makings. he is not reaching his full potential.
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Game hit a pot hole and ate it after takin the "Dre training" wheels off.
no bullshiet. Game is still too mature to make a whole fucken record by himslef...i support him in his music and shit, but i know because of his fucken ego, he puts limitations on his performance/ track makings. he is not reaching his full potential.
I feel quite the opposite, I don't think he has that much natural talent but he knows about practicing, studying and really buckling down to make a good record. he's not the most dextrous or skilled MC by a long shot but he knows how to put a good sounding record together(both albums are banging if not classics, that's with and without dre) and that's all I'm saying, cause yeah I agree there are other doper rappers especially from old school west coast shit.
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He did not have a plan after all that beef.
Like America to Iraq!
It's funny, because it seems like its the same posters in these 'game' debates. Everyone wants to credit him as former g-unit soldier but then they want to turn around and compare him to Justin, Jay-Z, etc etc. Then some of you get butt hurt when Game makes bold statements as if no other rapper makes bold statements. lol.. Sometimes i wonder if ya'll even listen to rap for over a year.
I don't get the justin/jay z comparisons. also, how is it certified platinum if it's not 1 mil sold yet?
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RIAA goes by units shipped. He has probably shipped 1 million units by now.
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then what's the 750,000 or whatever? Surely they can't keep track of how many actual units get sold. I thought 750,000 was the shipping number.
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Game hit a pot hole and ate it after takin the "Dre training" wheels off.
no bullshiet. Game is still too mature to make a whole fucken record by himslef...i support him in his music and shit, but i know because of his fucken ego, he puts limitations on his performance/ track makings. he is not reaching his full potential.
I feel quite the opposite, I don't think he has that much natural talent but he knows about practicing, studying and really buckling down to make a good record. he's not the most dextrous or skilled MC by a long shot but he knows how to put a good sounding record together(both albums are banging if not classics, that's with and without dre) and that's all I'm saying, cause yeah I agree there are other doper rappers especially from old school west coast shit.
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1. Nither of Games albums are any where near to be considerd "classic."
2. Dre and 50 had so much influence in his first record. We are seeing know what is going on without thier help(hype).
3. Game is on some Donald Trump ego trip for thinkin this album would sell better than his last. he had nobody of higher respect to say do this do that. he made his own decisions. and do you think after ONE fucken record he is really mature enough to make a whole cd on his own? and that one Fucken record was basically put together by Dre and 50. thats like Tiger Woods trynna go pro after his first junior tounament. you have to put in more work, and GET HELP from others before you try to carry the whole fucken load on your own.
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1. Nither of Games albums are any where near to be considerd "classic."
I said "banging if not classics" as if to say 'even though they are not classics, they are banging' i wasn't saying they're classic. But for the record they do have one aspect that a classic requires: replay value. Both his records have alot of replay value.
Game hit a pot hole and ate it after takin the "Dre training" wheels off.
no bullshiet. Game is still too mature to make a whole fucken record by himslef...i support him in his music and shit, but i know because of his fucken ego, he puts limitations on his performance/ track makings. he is not reaching his full potential.
I feel quite the opposite, I don't think he has that much natural talent but he knows about practicing, studying and really buckling down to make a good record. he's not the most dextrous or skilled MC by a long shot but he knows how to put a good sounding record together(both albums are banging if not classics, that's with and without dre) and that's all I'm saying, cause yeah I agree there are other doper rappers especially from old school west coast shit.
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2. Dre and 50 had so much influence in his first record. We are seeing know what is going on without thier help(hype).
what do you mean? Him not going platinum yet? Cause as far as DA goes, most people agree it's at least as good as Doc.
Game hit a pot hole and ate it after takin the "Dre training" wheels off.
no bullshiet. Game is still too mature to make a whole fucken record by himslef...i support him in his music and shit, but i know because of his fucken ego, he puts limitations on his performance/ track makings. he is not reaching his full potential.
I feel quite the opposite, I don't think he has that much natural talent but he knows about practicing, studying and really buckling down to make a good record. he's not the most dextrous or skilled MC by a long shot but he knows how to put a good sounding record together(both albums are banging if not classics, that's with and without dre) and that's all I'm saying, cause yeah I agree there are other doper rappers especially from old school west coast shit.
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3. Game is on some Donald Trump ego trip for thinkin this album would sell better than his last. he had nobody of higher respect to say do this do that. he made his own decisions. and do you think after ONE fucken record he is really mature enough to make a whole cd on his own? and that one Fucken record was basically put together by Dre and 50. thats like Tiger Woods trynna go pro after his first junior tounament. you have to put in more work, and GET HELP from others before you try to carry the whole fucken load on your own.
DA is banging, if you can make a banging record and hold it together yourself why not?
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then what's the 750,000 or whatever? Surely they can't keep track of how many actual units get sold. I thought 750,000 was the shipping number.
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Retailers report in their sales every week. The label ships out so many copies and they go from there. He has actually sold around 830,000 so if 750,000 was the shipping amount they are already on another shipment.
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750 was last i checked. that's tight.
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750 was last i checked. that's tight.
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Yeah the numbers are a little bit misleading because some artists and labels use their items shipped as their items sold. I used to work for Wherehouse Music and we would have reps all the time calling in to see how many units shipped and sold.
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1. Nither of Games albums are any where near to be considerd "classic."
I said "banging if not classics" as if to say 'even though they are not classics, they are banging' i wasn't saying they're classic. But for the record they do have one aspect that a classic requires: replay value. Both his records have alot of replay value.
Game hit a pot hole and ate it after takin the "Dre training" wheels off.
no bullshiet. Game is still too mature to make a whole fucken record by himslef...i support him in his music and shit, but i know because of his fucken ego, he puts limitations on his performance/ track makings. he is not reaching his full potential.
I feel quite the opposite, I don't think he has that much natural talent but he knows about practicing, studying and really buckling down to make a good record. he's not the most dextrous or skilled MC by a long shot but he knows how to put a good sounding record together(both albums are banging if not classics, that's with and without dre) and that's all I'm saying, cause yeah I agree there are other doper rappers especially from old school west coast shit.
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2. Dre and 50 had so much influence in his first record. We are seeing know what is going on without thier help(hype).
what do you mean? Him not going platinum yet? Cause as far as DA goes, most people agree it's at least as good as Doc.
Game hit a pot hole and ate it after takin the "Dre training" wheels off.
no bullshiet. Game is still too mature to make a whole fucken record by himslef...i support him in his music and shit, but i know because of his fucken ego, he puts limitations on his performance/ track makings. he is not reaching his full potential.
I feel quite the opposite, I don't think he has that much natural talent but he knows about practicing, studying and really buckling down to make a good record. he's not the most dextrous or skilled MC by a long shot but he knows how to put a good sounding record together(both albums are banging if not classics, that's with and without dre) and that's all I'm saying, cause yeah I agree there are other doper rappers especially from old school west coast shit.
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3. Game is on some Donald Trump ego trip for thinkin this album would sell better than his last. he had nobody of higher respect to say do this do that. he made his own decisions. and do you think after ONE fucken record he is really mature enough to make a whole cd on his own? and that one Fucken record was basically put together by Dre and 50. thats like Tiger Woods trynna go pro after his first junior tounament. you have to put in more work, and GET HELP from others before you try to carry the whole fucken load on your own.
DA is banging, if you can make a banging record and hold it together yourself why not?
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you said "both albums are bangin, if not classics." this means that even if they are not classics, they are quite near in quality. and i said "nither are no where near being classic." dont try to switch your words man. :nawty:
if DA is good but not selling, he should just put out fucken mixtapes. the reason for being promoted on a major label is to produce numbers, not just make "good music." thats what i mean when he doesnt know how to make an album. it has to appeal to more of a conservative audience, and not just his fans who follow his mixtapes. thats what Dre and 50 accomplished, makin it a COMPLETE album.
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1. Nither of Games albums are any where near to be considerd "classic."
I said "banging if not classics" as if to say 'even though they are not classics, they are banging' i wasn't saying they're classic. But for the record they do have one aspect that a classic requires: replay value. Both his records have alot of replay value.
Game hit a pot hole and ate it after takin the "Dre training" wheels off.
no bullshiet. Game is still too mature to make a whole fucken record by himslef...i support him in his music and shit, but i know because of his fucken ego, he puts limitations on his performance/ track makings. he is not reaching his full potential.
I feel quite the opposite, I don't think he has that much natural talent but he knows about practicing, studying and really buckling down to make a good record. he's not the most dextrous or skilled MC by a long shot but he knows how to put a good sounding record together(both albums are banging if not classics, that's with and without dre) and that's all I'm saying, cause yeah I agree there are other doper rappers especially from old school west coast shit.
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2. Dre and 50 had so much influence in his first record. We are seeing know what is going on without thier help(hype).
what do you mean? Him not going platinum yet? Cause as far as DA goes, most people agree it's at least as good as Doc.
Game hit a pot hole and ate it after takin the "Dre training" wheels off.
no bullshiet. Game is still too mature to make a whole fucken record by himslef...i support him in his music and shit, but i know because of his fucken ego, he puts limitations on his performance/ track makings. he is not reaching his full potential.
I feel quite the opposite, I don't think he has that much natural talent but he knows about practicing, studying and really buckling down to make a good record. he's not the most dextrous or skilled MC by a long shot but he knows how to put a good sounding record together(both albums are banging if not classics, that's with and without dre) and that's all I'm saying, cause yeah I agree there are other doper rappers especially from old school west coast shit.
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3. Game is on some Donald Trump ego trip for thinkin this album would sell better than his last. he had nobody of higher respect to say do this do that. he made his own decisions. and do you think after ONE fucken record he is really mature enough to make a whole cd on his own? and that one Fucken record was basically put together by Dre and 50. thats like Tiger Woods trynna go pro after his first junior tounament. you have to put in more work, and GET HELP from others before you try to carry the whole fucken load on your own.
DA is banging, if you can make a banging record and hold it together yourself why not?
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you said "both albums are bangin, if not classics." this means that even if they are not classics, they are quite near in quality. and i said "nither are no where near being classic." dont try to switch your words man. :nawty:
if DA is good but not selling, he should just put out fucken mixtapes. the reason for being promoted on a major label is to produce numbers, not just make "good music." thats what i mean when he doesnt know how to make an album. it has to appeal to more of a conservative audience, and not just his fans who follow his mixtapes. thats what Dre and 50 accomplished, makin it a COMPLETE album.
that shit is selling. alot of rappers would like to go damn near platinum/know they'll be platinum by the end of their third singles run. what else can you for a record to do but go platinum after 3 singles?
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1. Nither of Games albums are any where near to be considerd "classic."
I said "banging if not classics" as if to say 'even though they are not classics, they are banging' i wasn't saying they're classic. But for the record they do have one aspect that a classic requires: replay value. Both his records have alot of replay value.
Game hit a pot hole and ate it after takin the "Dre training" wheels off.
no bullshiet. Game is still too mature to make a whole fucken record by himslef...i support him in his music and shit, but i know because of his fucken ego, he puts limitations on his performance/ track makings. he is not reaching his full potential.
I feel quite the opposite, I don't think he has that much natural talent but he knows about practicing, studying and really buckling down to make a good record. he's not the most dextrous or skilled MC by a long shot but he knows how to put a good sounding record together(both albums are banging if not classics, that's with and without dre) and that's all I'm saying, cause yeah I agree there are other doper rappers especially from old school west coast shit.
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2. Dre and 50 had so much influence in his first record. We are seeing know what is going on without thier help(hype).
what do you mean? Him not going platinum yet? Cause as far as DA goes, most people agree it's at least as good as Doc.
Game hit a pot hole and ate it after takin the "Dre training" wheels off.
no bullshiet. Game is still too mature to make a whole fucken record by himslef...i support him in his music and shit, but i know because of his fucken ego, he puts limitations on his performance/ track makings. he is not reaching his full potential.
I feel quite the opposite, I don't think he has that much natural talent but he knows about practicing, studying and really buckling down to make a good record. he's not the most dextrous or skilled MC by a long shot but he knows how to put a good sounding record together(both albums are banging if not classics, that's with and without dre) and that's all I'm saying, cause yeah I agree there are other doper rappers especially from old school west coast shit.
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3. Game is on some Donald Trump ego trip for thinkin this album would sell better than his last. he had nobody of higher respect to say do this do that. he made his own decisions. and do you think after ONE fucken record he is really mature enough to make a whole cd on his own? and that one Fucken record was basically put together by Dre and 50. thats like Tiger Woods trynna go pro after his first junior tounament. you have to put in more work, and GET HELP from others before you try to carry the whole fucken load on your own.
DA is banging, if you can make a banging record and hold it together yourself why not?
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you said "both albums are bangin, if not classics." this means that even if they are not classics, they are quite near in quality. and i said "nither are no where near being classic." dont try to switch your words man. :nawty:
if DA is good but not selling, he should just put out fucken mixtapes. the reason for being promoted on a major label is to produce numbers, not just make "good music." thats what i mean when he doesnt know how to make an album. it has to appeal to more of a conservative audience, and not just his fans who follow his mixtapes. thats what Dre and 50 accomplished, makin it a COMPLETE album.
that shit is selling. alot of rappers would like to go damn near platinum/know they'll be platinum by the end of their third singles run. what else can you for a record to do but go platinum after 3 singles?
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so you really think Game met his expectations? and do you not think if he did have some kinda influnce from somebody who has actually put a record on thier own, he would have not prdoced a product more versitile and diverse enough to attract another audince different from Game's usually fane base?
im tired of arguin with yo ass man, i gots to go to class. :P
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1. Nither of Games albums are any where near to be considerd "classic."
I said "banging if not classics" as if to say 'even though they are not classics, they are banging' i wasn't saying they're classic. But for the record they do have one aspect that a classic requires: replay value. Both his records have alot of replay value.
Game hit a pot hole and ate it after takin the "Dre training" wheels off.
no bullshiet. Game is still too mature to make a whole fucken record by himslef...i support him in his music and shit, but i know because of his fucken ego, he puts limitations on his performance/ track makings. he is not reaching his full potential.
I feel quite the opposite, I don't think he has that much natural talent but he knows about practicing, studying and really buckling down to make a good record. he's not the most dextrous or skilled MC by a long shot but he knows how to put a good sounding record together(both albums are banging if not classics, that's with and without dre) and that's all I'm saying, cause yeah I agree there are other doper rappers especially from old school west coast shit.
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2. Dre and 50 had so much influence in his first record. We are seeing know what is going on without thier help(hype).
what do you mean? Him not going platinum yet? Cause as far as DA goes, most people agree it's at least as good as Doc.
Game hit a pot hole and ate it after takin the "Dre training" wheels off.
no bullshiet. Game is still too mature to make a whole fucken record by himslef...i support him in his music and shit, but i know because of his fucken ego, he puts limitations on his performance/ track makings. he is not reaching his full potential.
I feel quite the opposite, I don't think he has that much natural talent but he knows about practicing, studying and really buckling down to make a good record. he's not the most dextrous or skilled MC by a long shot but he knows how to put a good sounding record together(both albums are banging if not classics, that's with and without dre) and that's all I'm saying, cause yeah I agree there are other doper rappers especially from old school west coast shit.
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3. Game is on some Donald Trump ego trip for thinkin this album would sell better than his last. he had nobody of higher respect to say do this do that. he made his own decisions. and do you think after ONE fucken record he is really mature enough to make a whole cd on his own? and that one Fucken record was basically put together by Dre and 50. thats like Tiger Woods trynna go pro after his first junior tounament. you have to put in more work, and GET HELP from others before you try to carry the whole fucken load on your own.
DA is banging, if you can make a banging record and hold it together yourself why not?
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you said "both albums are bangin, if not classics." this means that even if they are not classics, they are quite near in quality. and i said "nither are no where near being classic." dont try to switch your words man. :nawty:
if DA is good but not selling, he should just put out fucken mixtapes. the reason for being promoted on a major label is to produce numbers, not just make "good music." thats what i mean when he doesnt know how to make an album. it has to appeal to more of a conservative audience, and not just his fans who follow his mixtapes. thats what Dre and 50 accomplished, makin it a COMPLETE album.
that shit is selling. alot of rappers would like to go damn near platinum/know they'll be platinum by the end of their third singles run. what else can you for a record to do but go platinum after 3 singles?
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so you really think Game made his expectations? and do you not think if he did have some kinda influnce from somebody who has actually put a record on thier own, he would have not prdoced a product more versitile and diverse enough to attract another audince different from Game's usually fane base?
im tired of arguin with yo ass man, i gots to go to class. :P
perhaps not his own expectations...sure he could have made a different record with different people that did different things, no argument there.
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Meet his expectations? I don't think any rapper really meets their expectations. Jay-Z probably had higher expectations for his album after pouring 20 million into marketing.
Like i said in my original post... Some people want to credit Game as a former g-unit soldier but expect him to do Jay-Z, Justin Timberlake numbers.. It's just not going to happen.. Game knows that deep down.
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Game has actually sold 821k Nielsen Soundscan keeps track of sales everytime you buy a CD it is scanned at the cashier and those are reported to Nielsen every week when the numbers come out, the RIAA is the one that certifies platinum and gold according to units shipped to record stores, that's why Jay-z if you look at the Billboard Charts is certified 2x Platinum but has only sold 1.3 million Soundscanned, meaning he has alot of CD's sitting in store racks
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^^
Plus, you gotta remember that not all stores participate in Sounscan. Thus Soundscan numbers can never be as high as shipping numbers, 'cause obviously not all records are sold in participating stores. (But even so, it's obvious that there's a bunch of Jigga records sitting on the shelves.)
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Game Doctor's Advocate 11,569 7 10,763 821,150
That is almost a grand jump in sales since the new single came out. His numbers are not bad at all, it's just he hyped the shit up like it was going to do 50 Cent numbers and it did not so if you take that outlook he flopped. Ain't no one doing 50 numbers on the westcoast except the Black Eyed Peas.
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when did the black eyed peas go double platinum?
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when did the black eyed peas go double platinum?
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you're just full of questions.. They've sold over 3 million copies on their last album. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_Business_%28album%29
Fergie has sold 1.4 million on her recent album and she isn't done releasing singles either.
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when did the black eyed peas go double platinum?
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Shit, they at 4 million now.
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Ain't no one doing 50 numbers on the westcoast except the Black Eyed Peas.
Andre Youngs lp will cane even 50 numbers.
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The Black Eyed Peas are not west artists. And Fergi is awful and her album is awful. Don't even speak her name on these boards. She is talentless and makes annoying music for annoying shallow empty people.
The Game is boring because their is no substance to his words. Everything is about Dre, or Compton etc. His songs aren't about anything. Its just played out. G-Unit on the other hand may not be better, but at least usually they make entertaining songs with good ORIGINAL beats. I love G-Unit albums because they put great beats from unknown producers on them. Oh another Game album with more Storch beats. Thats exciting... The guy needs to get back to what being a real artist is all about. Sitting in the studio with a producer and writing and making an album. Its obvious game wrote his verses in 2005, stuck them to beats he was sent in the mail in 2006, and stuck verses on them. Its a boring way to do music. And it shows.