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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: evan the dude on March 21, 2007, 03:36:19 PM
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Seriously. I'm sick of people on em's jock all the time on the producing tip! Dude uses the same exact snares/claps/guitar/etc in almost every single song he's produced since 2002. shit is repetitive and annoying as fuck. whoever gave eminem the idea that he was actually a good producer was horribly wrong. He hasn't had creativity EVER in production and none in rapping since the eminem show. It's time for him to retire.
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I liked some of the stuff he did on 8 mile. He did some decent stuff on Eminem Show. But for the most part, his beats are very boring and generic. I respect him for doing his own beats, but they're usually just not very good. Maybe you could look at it like "hey, you better come tight, cuz these beats aren't saving you".
Like that "Carry The Cross" joint he did for Nas was just so boring.
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he shouldnīt have started to begin with. it was cool when the other cats was doin all the work for(the Bass brothers,DJ Head) but when they left his beats became wack.
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Like that "Carry The Cross" joint he did for Nas was just so boring.
and thatīs a damn shame coz Nas ripped that shit.
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He had like 5 great beats and then they all started sounding the same.
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Yeah, dont feel him.
Poor drums, no bass. The only beat I like of Em (if it is actually his) is Til I collapse. An thats mostly cos its a fire song.
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never liked any beat hes done, very borin and generic
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Every beat from him I heard sounded the same. That same knock and head bop. :D
'Lose Yourself' is real nice though. The beat and lyrics give me chills. LOL.
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He's not 2 bad, Ive heard worse! My fav. beat of his woz Renegade!
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Ems production in 2006 > Dr.Dre's in 2006. All the beats he gave to G-Unit were hot.
Eminem f/ Nate Dogg - "'Till I Collapse"
50 Cent f/ Eminem - "Patiently Waiting"
Obie Trice f/ 50 Cent, Lloyd Banks of G-Unit & Eminem - "We All Die One Day"
Hands Up feat. 50 Cent
Drama Setter - Eminem, Tony Yayo
Shake That (feat. Nate Dogg)
You Dont Know (Eminem, 50 Cent, Lloyd Banks & Ca$his)
Those just some of the bigger name tracks from G-Unit. But Em is easily one of the better main stream producers. Though he's proven he can't produce an entire album start to finish. If you need one beat, get it from Em.
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some of those beats you named are hot but before this discussion furthers:
dre's work on HHID, KC,TBCT>>>>>patiently waiting, till i collapse(hot song, just above average beat)
imo
anyway, he had some hot shit but he is just dre without funk. same instrumentation, same musicians...just no funk, which even in a post g funk era is still alot of dre's style ( 30 something, boss' life)
anyway, yeah he needs to stick to rappin'
-T
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Em's production on the Re-Up was sick, I don't think alot of people on this board actually peeped this cd.
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Em's production on the Re-Up was sick, I don't think alot of people on this board actually peeped this cd.
troof
-T
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I gotta admit his production was weak for awhile, but as he's gotten more experience, he's moved away from just one sound and tries different things.
On the other hand, again speaking on the Re-Up, he can also produce a whole album, and give it a consistent vibe like and old Dre/Gangstarr/UGK produced albums etc.
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Obie Trice f/ 50 Cent, Lloyd Banks of G-Unit & Eminem - "We All Die One Day"
Wow, I thought DJ Muggs did that track.
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Most of his beats sound good for his own lyrics, so I'm usually OK when he produces for himself. I usually can't stand it when he produces for other artists, however...especially what he did on Pac's "Loyal To The Game".
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^^^ Well he had no business being on that project anyways. I though the beat he did with D_block acouple years back fucken sucked when everyone around my way thought it was the hottest shit.
I think for Em's production to be at it's best, he's gotta work with people he's comfortable with ( himslef, the Unit, Obie, D12, Stat, etc. )
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I think his Beats Are Ok!!!
i always look forward to listenin to any Em Beat..
I don't feel he should stop producing, he has done it for a good while why stop???
he can improve..try different styles..I don't think he should just suddenly stop..
just my two cents!!
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in fact i did enjoy one beat - renegade off blueprint
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Most of his beats sound good for his own lyrics, so I'm usually OK when he produces for himself. I usually can't stand it when he produces for other artists, however...especially what he did on Pac's "Loyal To The Game".
co-sign, he does sound good over his own beats and should stick to producing for himself
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Ems production in 2006 > Dr.Dre's in 2006. All the beats he gave to G-Unit were hot.
Eminem f/ Nate Dogg - "'Till I Collapse"
50 Cent f/ Eminem - "Patiently Waiting"
Obie Trice f/ 50 Cent, Lloyd Banks of G-Unit & Eminem - "We All Die One Day"
Hands Up feat. 50 Cent
Drama Setter - Eminem, Tony Yayo
Shake That (feat. Nate Dogg)
You Dont Know (Eminem, 50 Cent, Lloyd Banks & Ca$his)
Those just some of the bigger name tracks from G-Unit. But Em is easily one of the better main stream producers. Though he's proven he can't produce an entire album start to finish. If you need one beat, get it from Em.
Did you forget Loyal to the Game?
My nonexistant pet cockroach > Eminems production
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Ems production in 2006 > Dr.Dre's in 2006. All the beats he gave to G-Unit were hot.
Eminem f/ Nate Dogg - "'Till I Collapse"
50 Cent f/ Eminem - "Patiently Waiting"
Obie Trice f/ 50 Cent, Lloyd Banks of G-Unit & Eminem - "We All Die One Day"
Hands Up feat. 50 Cent
Drama Setter - Eminem, Tony Yayo
Shake That (feat. Nate Dogg)
You Dont Know (Eminem, 50 Cent, Lloyd Banks & Ca$his)
Those just some of the bigger name tracks from G-Unit. But Em is easily one of the better main stream producers. Though he's proven he can't produce an entire album start to finish. If you need one beat, get it from Em.
Did you forget Loyal to the Game?
My nonexistant pet cockroach > Eminems production
I think everyone can agree that Loyal to the Game was a biiiig mistake ( mostly because Em didn't work with 2Pac on the album ), but act like your favorite producer hasn;t made a mistake or been involved in a few bad projects.
Your completely ignoring the hits Em has made and only focusing on the negative.
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Ems production in 2006 > Dr.Dre's in 2006. All the beats he gave to G-Unit were hot.
Eminem f/ Nate Dogg - "'Till I Collapse"
50 Cent f/ Eminem - "Patiently Waiting"
Obie Trice f/ 50 Cent, Lloyd Banks of G-Unit & Eminem - "We All Die One Day"
Hands Up feat. 50 Cent
Drama Setter - Eminem, Tony Yayo
Shake That (feat. Nate Dogg)
You Dont Know (Eminem, 50 Cent, Lloyd Banks & Ca$his)
Those just some of the bigger name tracks from G-Unit. But Em is easily one of the better main stream producers. Though he's proven he can't produce an entire album start to finish. If you need one beat, get it from Em.
Did you forget Loyal to the Game?
My nonexistant pet cockroach > Eminems production
I think everyone can agree that Loyal to the Game was a biiiig mistake ( mostly because Em didn't work with 2Pac on the album ), but act like your favorite producer hasn;t made a mistake or been involved in a few bad projects.
Your completely ignoring the hits Em has made and only focusing on the negative.
Of course every producer hasn't churned out hit after hit but I really dislike his production and his work on the 2pac album really didn't help my opinion on it.
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Well if you haven't heard any recent production he's deversified quite a bit but still has his own sound. There was about a 3-4 year span where I wasn't fuckin' with Em's production, but like I said in an earlier post, The Re-Up sounded unbelievable.
And I'm not gonna disagree with you on how damn bad that Pac album was.
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yeh like said before, his beats are suited for HIM, he's had a few good beats but most are average and i dont usually get to excited when it says "Produced By Eminem", i did think his beat on Buck The World was pretty hot
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come to think of it, i like 'don't approach me' from restless but the song would have been way doper if dre produced it
-T
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Ems production in 2006 > Dr.Dre's in 2006. All the beats he gave to G-Unit were hot.
Em had a couple of good beats in 06, but 30 Something>>>>>>Em's production CV.
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maybe its just me, but i think loyal to the game is a tight album... :-\
i mean, every song is good enough to listen to...nothing outstanding and certainly not a classic, but i wouldnt say its a flop music-wise...
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I've been saying that for years, his earlier beats were alright (when he didn't do the drums (DJ Head), when Dre's musicians worked with him (Mike Elizondo)).
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maybe its just me, but i think loyal to the game is a tight album... :-\
i mean, every song is good enough to listen to...nothing outstanding and certainly not a classic, but i wouldnt say its a flop music-wise...
It's not bad but Quik's remix of Loyal To The Game outshines everything else on the album by a country mile, and shows up Em's production ability in the process.
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Well if you haven't heard any recent production he's deversified quite a bit but still has his own sound. There was about a 3-4 year span where I wasn't fuckin' with Em's production, but like I said in an earlier post, The Re-Up sounded unbelievable.
And I'm not gonna disagree with you on how damn bad that Pac album was.
yeah i'll admit man, i haven't really listened to re-up yet. the main reason i started this thread is because of his production on young bucks new album. i heard the track and i was just like shit, does this dude ever stop lol. it sounded like the exact same shit i heard years ago. i'll definitely have to check re-up and see what's good.
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I don't really have a problem with Em's beats, even though they do get a little repetitive at times. He gave Obie a few bangers on his last album and his work on the Re-Up was alright. Every now and then he drops a dope beat or two.
He's just gotta keep reinventing his style, which I think he has recently. He's using a few different sounds, which is important for any producer. That's one of the things that separates a beat maker from a real producer, imo.
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what about the work he did on Obies second album i think the production he did on that is pretty good
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he's ok i guess but not that good,You Dont Know is pretty good though
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what about the work he did on Obies second album i think the production he did on that is pretty good
I wouldn't even say they were great beats, some very good, but 2nd Rds. On Me was the first time we got to hear Em use a variety of different sounds.
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I agree with the thread starter..
I don't get how anyone can say that "You Dont Know" is dope though