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Title: Kevin Smith is back
Post by: Tanjential on September 29, 2007, 12:22:57 PM
His new show reaper on the CW is fucking brilliantly hilarious. The best thing he's done since Dogma.

The fat guy sidekick is the perfect jack black/kevin smith projectionary archetype. Bloody brilliant. and the guy playing satan is ridiculously great.

I've already forgiven him for jersey girl the first episode was so good.

if the whole season is good I'll forgive him for being so late on all his marvel comics work.

if the whole series is good i'll forigive him for turning his latest spider-man story into a rape public service announcement.

check this shit out, it's on the CW

-T
Title: Re: Kevin Smith is back
Post by: Laconic on September 29, 2007, 12:44:55 PM
What night is it on?

On another note, have you seen that Evening With Kevin Smith DVD 1 & 2?  I heard those were good as well.
Title: Re: Kevin Smith is back
Post by: Tanjential on September 29, 2007, 01:44:21 PM
saw the first one, but not the second.

it was amazingly hilarious.

i watched it on thursday but I think the new eps come out tuesday

-T
Title: Re: Kevin Smith is back
Post by: Laconic on September 29, 2007, 01:47:21 PM
Alright, thanks. +1
Title: Re: Kevin Smith is back
Post by: Tanjential on September 29, 2007, 01:48:58 PM
+1

lmao at the dude who's camping out this satruday morning and dissing me by the hour.

-T
Title: Re: Kevin Smith is back
Post by: Shallow on September 29, 2007, 04:24:34 PM
His new show reaper on the CW is fucking brilliantly hilarious. The best thing he's done since Dogma.

The fat guy sidekick is the perfect jack black/kevin smith projectionary archetype. Bloody brilliant. and the guy playing satan is ridiculously great.

I've already forgiven him for jersey girl the first episode was so good.

if the whole season is good I'll forgive him for being so late on all his marvel comics work.

if the whole series is good i'll forigive him for turning his latest spider-man story into a rape public service announcement.

check this shit out, it's on the CW

-T

He's on Spiderman now? Not Amazing? JMS is still on that right? However bad the rape storyline you mention is it can't be as bad as Sins Past.

I didn't Reaper was Kevin Smith. I saw the screener s few months ago. The show changed the actress for the girl from the girl from 13 to the girl from Heroes. And you can tell that the main character Sam looks different in the new scenes with Heroes. I think it's his hair.
Title: Re: Kevin Smith is back
Post by: Tanjential on September 29, 2007, 04:57:10 PM
His new show reaper on the CW is fucking brilliantly hilarious. The best thing he's done since Dogma.

The fat guy sidekick is the perfect jack black/kevin smith projectionary archetype. Bloody brilliant. and the guy playing satan is ridiculously great.

I've already forgiven him for jersey girl the first episode was so good.

if the whole season is good I'll forgive him for being so late on all his marvel comics work.

if the whole series is good i'll forigive him for turning his latest spider-man story into a rape public service announcement.

check this shit out, it's on the CW

-T

He's on Spiderman now? Not Amazing? JMS is still on that right? However bad the rape storyline you mention is it can't be as bad as Sins Past.

I didn't Reaper was Kevin Smith. I saw the screener s few months ago. The show changed the actress for the girl from the girl from 13 to the girl from Heroes. And you can tell that the main character Sam looks different in the new scenes with Heroes. I think it's his hair.

Couple things.

I've never watched Heroes....this guy Sam(the actor) is from heroes? didn't know about the chick...she's super cute.

anyway, Kevin Smith was never on ASM. He started a 5 issue Spider-Man/Black Cat mini series in like circa 03 that he didn't finish the last 2 issues of till like 06-07. The story started off awesome (before he well...stopped writing it) and when he picked it up again it became a big awkward after school special about rape, incest and other weird shit that made me feel dirty walking away from. He brought in some elements from his daredevil run though and that was cool and it was still a worthwhile excursion but I feel he could have ended it way better had he kept his momentum on it.

anyway, Sins Past was Joe Quesada (E-I-C)'s fault. JMS wanted those kids to be Peter's.  Quesada said No, that would age Peter too much,how about let's make them Norman Osborns? JMS had to say "Okay boss" cause JQ's his boss.

I love JMS, especially his entire collaboration with John Romita Jr (essentially the first 6 trade paperbacks worth of work JMS did). I feel once JRJR left, JMS was a bit lost. But I HIIIIGHLY recommend you read JMS first 6 arcs if you haven't. Most people haven't read JMS' early run. His first trade is called "Coming Home" and his 6th (the last one with JRJR) is called "The Book of Ezekiel". That run is just flawless to me.

anyway, skin deep and sins past I did not like. The Other was mediocre (also quesada's fault. JMS wanted to do it over 24 months in ASM alone but since quesada had a certain time frame in mind for civil war, JMS had to make it 12 parts. 4 parts over 3 monthly titles so the story was done in 4 months and hella rushed.). But around the CW stuff, JMS got really good again (specificially when Ron Garney took over as penciller, I guess Straczynski just needs good collaborators) and has been since imo, though I feel he is more decompressed than he used to be.

anyway, JMS is currently writing the last arc of his 6 year run on ASM. It's called 'One More Day' and it's pencilled by Quesada. and it's been HEAVILY hinted and rumored that Quesada has ordered this story break up the marriage of Peter and MJ and frankly most fans are pissed. For more specifics on the discussion, hit up www.newsarama.com, you'll see me in the forums puttin' it down.

The first part of OMD came out and it's drawn uber-well and the story seems cool but like I said, I feel JMS is more decompressed than he used to be.

Bottom line? JMS is dope except when JQ exerts editorial mandates on him. I thought sins past would have been frickin' amazing if those kids were Peter's.



and Kevin smith will not be let near comics anymore because that mini series (and a daredevil one that he started and never finished...but damn is that first issue dope....) was so late. so to me, reaper is his chance for redemption. Clerks 2 wasn't bad but...I don't wanna say it wasn't as good as part 1 cause that's too big an expectation but I at least wanted to see hella pseudo-intellectual minutae analyzing dialogue like in part 1 to balance all the slapstic he's been so prone to since Jay and Bob strikes back and there was like no more than half of a decent geeky conversation at a time and that was a big disappointment to me.

how regularly do you keep up with ASM?

-T
Title: Re: Kevin Smith is back
Post by: Tanjential on September 29, 2007, 05:00:43 PM
also, did you read Kevin Smith's daredevil run? Quesada pencilled it and man is it good

-T
Title: Re: Kevin Smith is back
Post by: The Watcher on September 29, 2007, 10:13:08 PM
it's not kevin smiths show, he's only directing the 1st episode
Title: Re: Kevin Smith is back
Post by: NeoSoul on September 30, 2007, 10:18:40 AM
yea he only directed the first ep he didnt write any of it

his gonna start filming his new comedy "Zack & Miri make a porno" late this yr and then his doing a horror movie called "Red State".

they gonna be different too cos he aint using the askewiverse characters anymore :(
Title: Re: Kevin Smith is back
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 30, 2007, 10:41:34 AM
his doing a horror movie called "Red State"


can't wait for that one...
Title: Re: Kevin Smith is back
Post by: Shallow on September 30, 2007, 10:44:52 AM
His new show reaper on the CW is fucking brilliantly hilarious. The best thing he's done since Dogma.

The fat guy sidekick is the perfect jack black/kevin smith projectionary archetype. Bloody brilliant. and the guy playing satan is ridiculously great.

I've already forgiven him for jersey girl the first episode was so good.

if the whole season is good I'll forgive him for being so late on all his marvel comics work.

if the whole series is good i'll forigive him for turning his latest spider-man story into a rape public service announcement.

check this shit out, it's on the CW

-T

He's on Spiderman now? Not Amazing? JMS is still on that right? However bad the rape storyline you mention is it can't be as bad as Sins Past.

I didn't Reaper was Kevin Smith. I saw the screener s few months ago. The show changed the actress for the girl from the girl from 13 to the girl from Heroes. And you can tell that the main character Sam looks different in the new scenes with Heroes. I think it's his hair.

Couple things.

I've never watched Heroes....this guy Sam(the actor) is from heroes? didn't know about the chick...she's super cute.

anyway, Kevin Smith was never on ASM. He started a 5 issue Spider-Man/Black Cat mini series in like circa 03 that he didn't finish the last 2 issues of till like 06-07. The story started off awesome (before he well...stopped writing it) and when he picked it up again it became a big awkward after school special about rape, incest and other weird shit that made me feel dirty walking away from. He brought in some elements from his daredevil run though and that was cool and it was still a worthwhile excursion but I feel he could have ended it way better had he kept his momentum on it.

anyway, Sins Past was Joe Quesada (E-I-C)'s fault. JMS wanted those kids to be Peter's.  Quesada said No, that would age Peter too much,how about let's make them Norman Osborns? JMS had to say "Okay boss" cause JQ's his boss.

I love JMS, especially his entire collaboration with John Romita Jr (essentially the first 6 trade paperbacks worth of work JMS did). I feel once JRJR left, JMS was a bit lost. But I HIIIIGHLY recommend you read JMS first 6 arcs if you haven't. Most people haven't read JMS' early run. His first trade is called "Coming Home" and his 6th (the last one with JRJR) is called "The Book of Ezekiel". That run is just flawless to me.

anyway, skin deep and sins past I did not like. The Other was mediocre (also quesada's fault. JMS wanted to do it over 24 months in ASM alone but since quesada had a certain time frame in mind for civil war, JMS had to make it 12 parts. 4 parts over 3 monthly titles so the story was done in 4 months and hella rushed.). But around the CW stuff, JMS got really good again (specificially when Ron Garney took over as penciller, I guess Straczynski just needs good collaborators) and has been since imo, though I feel he is more decompressed than he used to be.

anyway, JMS is currently writing the last arc of his 6 year run on ASM. It's called 'One More Day' and it's pencilled by Quesada. and it's been HEAVILY hinted and rumored that Quesada has ordered this story break up the marriage of Peter and MJ and frankly most fans are pissed. For more specifics on the discussion, hit up www.newsarama.com, you'll see me in the forums puttin' it down.

The first part of OMD came out and it's drawn uber-well and the story seems cool but like I said, I feel JMS is more decompressed than he used to be.

Bottom line? JMS is dope except when JQ exerts editorial mandates on him. I thought sins past would have been frickin' amazing if those kids were Peter's.



and Kevin smith will not be let near comics anymore because that mini series (and a daredevil one that he started and never finished...but damn is that first issue dope....) was so late. so to me, reaper is his chance for redemption. Clerks 2 wasn't bad but...I don't wanna say it wasn't as good as part 1 cause that's too big an expectation but I at least wanted to see hella pseudo-intellectual minutae analyzing dialogue like in part 1 to balance all the slapstic he's been so prone to since Jay and Bob strikes back and there was like no more than half of a decent geeky conversation at a time and that was a big disappointment to me.

how regularly do you keep up with ASM?

-T


I've been on the JMS bandwagon since Rising Stars (the first arc was one of the best stories since Watchmen. It kind of went down a bit after that). I may have every issue or every comic book JMS ever wrote, from RS to Midnight Nation, to Spiderman to Supreme Power. I've read everything up until just after Sins Past. I have all of the issues since then I just haven't read them yet. I also have that Black Cat mini but I haven't read that yet either.

My issue wth Sins Past went far beyond them being Osborne's kids. The whole sleeping with Norman story was ridiculous but also I didn't think it needed the sci-fi aspect of them being so old. The story wrote it self in the beginning when Peter found the letter. What should have ended up happening was that Peter had one kid with Gwen who would be 8 or 9 or whatever and he ends up leaving MJ for lting to him and going out to find the kid and that would have lead to a nice year long storyline that would settle the story down a bit. Make it more human for a while and see a lottle more into Peter's soul. That would have been my take anyway.

The Daredevil Smith did with Quesada was great. I was sad to see him leave so early. The David Mack arc was okay, but the series really took off when Bendis jumped on. So Smith leaving wasn't all that bad.
Title: Re: Kevin Smith is back
Post by: Tanjential on September 30, 2007, 11:04:07 AM
what? Kevin smith won't be involved anymore?

yall serious?? damn, I may be done LOL

Hm, I agree that your take on sins past would have been brilliant but that would have done exactly what quesada is so afraid of: aging peter.

and yeah accela-grown kids are ALWAYS bad. Like clone bad.

and under JMS original idea, there would have been no Gwen-slept-with-Norman Osborn plot.

I would have been down for those kids to be Peter's for that story but as far as post sins past...where could you go from there? Peter couldn't possibly have been involved in Marvel's big events that followed in the way that he was if those kids were his.

you should read the rest if the JMS run if you've already read everything up to sins past. I think you'll really like it again from the "new avengers' arc on. and it gets sooo good during civil war and beyond.

also JMS just did a 4 issue death of silver surfer mini series called "Silver Surfer:Requiem" that was completely painted by Esad Ribic...and good god is it good. the second chapter of it is also a spider-man story and it's gorgeous work.

read the black cat/spidey mini(you have the 5 individual issues or the collected edition?) cause not only do I want your thoughts on it but it will sate your desire for more kevin smith daredevil. halfway through the story daredevil comes in and it almost directly picks up on stuff from 'guardian devil'.

kevin smith also did part one of a proposed 5 issue mini called "daredevil:the target" that very deftly intregrates elements of guardian devil with 9/11 and it's crazy. but yeah he got so behind that they never released any issues after the first one. so the mini remains unfinished. when asked at a comicon about if he would ever finish it. Smith replied "Daredevil wins; really what did you expect?" and said that Bendis has taken the character in such a different and good direction that it would be inappropriate for him to do that story now. I agreed when I heard him say it but once I read the issue one of that shit I was like DAMN, I want the rest of this story! the art was ridiculous too, brett something, I think brett matthews.

also, a latino writer Roberto Aguirre Sacasa just did a fanTAStic run on 'sensational spider-man' from issues 23-40 and I'd advise picking up either the issues or collected editions of it it's so good. most of the art is done by Angel Medina (used to draw spawn for macfarlane and you can tell, he has that dynamic flavor) or fully painted by Clayton Crain (just breathtaking) with a couple fill ins by Ramon Bachs(not impressed) and Lee Weeks (classic). anyway, sacasa does a great job at fun stories with old villains as well as integrating alot of spidey supporting cast that JMS tends to neglect (JMS spidey supporting cast has pretty much been boiled down to MJ/May) like Black Cat, Madame Web and some others. Everything that JQ was causing JMS to do wrong around this time period, sacasa was doing right. and sacasa wrote peter really young but still with depth and believability. it was cool shit, I'm sad to see him leave the spidey books.


i haven't gotten any of the current volume of DD since the kevin smith stuff but I DO want to get all the Bendis run at some point. i'm just hesitant cause it will be alot of daunting purchases. he wrote like 4 hardcovers or more worth of the actual title, he also used DD some in his Alias and Pulse run as well as writing him in the Secret War mini series as writing all of the elektra/DD stuff in the ultimate universe as well as some mini-series stuff like daredevil: ninja and other things and I'm very completist about my writer/character runs so it'd be alot of money and space that I just don't have right now but I've heard nothing but good things about Bendis' DD.

-T



Title: Re: Kevin Smith is back
Post by: Tanjential on September 30, 2007, 11:04:40 AM
also Ed Brubaker the current DD scribe is getting hella acclaim.


I read Bendis' New Avengers though and the first 4 arcs were just kind of light popcorn fun fare but since Civil War and Leinil Francis Yu taking over as penciller it's been awesome (if still very decompressed as is Bendis' M.O.)

I actually got to meet Bendis and Yu at this year's san diego comicon. they signed a bunch of stuff and were hella nice. Bendis especially was a humorous dude.

-T
Title: Re: Kevin Smith is back
Post by: Shallow on September 30, 2007, 06:09:29 PM
I have the Black Cat mini in issues. The guy I get my books from pulls varios things for me if he think I'll like them. I just haven't gotten around to reading after sins past. Not because it turned me off so much but because I had forgotten so much of the past storylines I'm going to have to read it all again. I'll read it all at once whn JMS is finished. Because I haven't kept up with ASM I haven't even read Civil War yet. The only book I go out of my way to read every time a new issue hits is 100 Bullets (now that's a great read).

Anything by Bendis in the early to mid 2000s was gold so you can't go wrong with Daredevil. I have the entire Alias run in issues, but I swear I haven't even read a single one yet. I don't think I have any issues of Pulse.

I'll keep an eye out for those Sensationals. Did you ever read Rising Stars?
Title: Re: Kevin Smith is back
Post by: Tanjential on October 01, 2007, 09:24:14 AM
nah, i'm always hesitant on new properties and characters cause it's a whole money/space investment thing. I know I'll like it cause I love Straczynski, but that's exactly why I'm hesitant.

as far as indie stuff I really really really really really like

Grant Morrison's "The Invisibles" (which is already completed actually)

Brian K. Vaughn's "Y: The Last Man" (two issues away from being completed)

and Robert Kirkman's "The Walking Dead"(Kirkman plans on writing this as long as humanly possible)

all of them are amazing amazing amazing fucking books. all 3 are addictive ass drugs for me.

I've heard good things about 100 Bullets. That same creative team that does 100 Bullets did a Batman story called "Broken City" awhile back that got a good amount of acclaim. Since I already like Batman alot, I think I'll pick that story up someday and if I really like it I'll give 100 Bullets a chance.

-T
Title: Re: Kevin Smith is back
Post by: Shallow on October 01, 2007, 10:10:56 AM
nah, i'm always hesitant on new properties and characters cause it's a whole money/space investment thing. I know I'll like it cause I love Straczynski, but that's exactly why I'm hesitant.

as far as indie stuff I really really really really really like

Grant Morrison's "The Invisibles" (which is already completed actually)

Brian K. Vaughn's "Y: The Last Man" (two issues away from being completed)

and Robert Kirkman's "The Walking Dead"(Kirkman plans on writing this as long as humanly possible)

all of them are amazing amazing amazing fucking books. all 3 are addictive ass drugs for me.

I've heard good things about 100 Bullets. That same creative team that does 100 Bullets did a Batman story called "Broken City" awhile back that got a good amount of acclaim. Since I already like Batman alot, I think I'll pick that story up someday and if I really like it I'll give 100 Bullets a chance.

-T


I thought Broken City was phenominal. I have the first 60 or so issues of 100 Bullets digitally stored on my hard drive. I can send them to you if you like. I jmuped oin the book a little late so I only have single issues of #6 to #10 and #14 to present. The first 5 I have in a trade and 11 to 13 I never found. I'll end up ordering them online someday just to complete the collection.
Title: Re: Kevin Smith is back
Post by: Tanjential on October 01, 2007, 10:21:08 AM
i'll probably just cop them in trade after i cop broken city.

thanks for the suggestion man.

if you get a chance to read invisibles, walking dead, or Y, then do so. won't be disappointed.

invisibles is like an amazing counter-cultural manifesto...pink floyd,one world government/orwellian big brother is watching you type conspiracies, 2012, the beatles, hallucinogens, everything a seeker/counterculturalist could hope for. it feels more important and relevant every trade I read

walking dead is the ultimate zombie movie. follows a group of survivors post zombie holocaust for as long as possible. so damn realistic. what's scarier than the zombies is what such a desperate situation provokes humans to do.

Y: the last man is about a man and his monkey being the last males on earth after a plague wipes out all carriers of the Y chromosome. it's an action/mystery revolving around where the plague came from and why this man and his monkey survived. makes alot of great commentary about society and gender issues and it's abolutely hilarious. also alot of beatles references.


what is 100 bullet's premise?

-T
Title: Re: Kevin Smith is back
Post by: Shallow on October 01, 2007, 10:45:52 AM
i'll probably just cop them in trade after i cop broken city.

thanks for the suggestion man.

if you get a chance to read invisibles, walking dead, or Y, then do so. won't be disappointed.

invisibles is like an amazing counter-cultural manifesto...pink floyd,one world government/orwellian big brother is watching you type conspiracies, 2012, the beatles, hallucinogens, everything a seeker/counterculturalist could hope for. it feels more important and relevant every trade I read

walking dead is the ultimate zombie movie. follows a group of survivors post zombie holocaust for as long as possible. so damn realistic. what's scarier than the zombies is what such a desperate situation provokes humans to do.

Y: the last man is about a man and his monkey being the last males on earth after a plague wipes out all carriers of the Y chromosome. it's an action/mystery revolving around where the plague came from and why this man and his monkey survived. makes alot of great commentary about society and gender issues and it's abolutely hilarious. also alot of beatles references.


what is 100 bullet's premise?

-T

Invisibles I have . Love Grant Morrison. His X men run was great a few years back. His recent Superman mini, not so much thus far.

Y the Last Man I almost jumped on at issue 5 but put it off. I'll eventally get it.

I'll keep an eye ut for walking dead.


100 Bullets is about a lot of things. It slowly unravels. It's on issue 85 or 86 now and there is still so much left to be answered. And with only a dozen or so issues left I can't wait too see what happens. It's film noir so a lot of shit probably won't ever be answered. Not any superhero stuff. You don't really follow any one character but Graves would probably be the main character if you had to choose. I don't want to give too much away because how it all unravells is what makes it so good. If you don't care about spoilers then let me know and I'll describe it in more detail.


Here is the first story arc in case you want to try it out.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QQ9OVMTX
Title: Re: Kevin Smith is back
Post by: Tanjential on October 01, 2007, 11:57:18 AM
Grant Morrison's X-Men run is my favorite x men story ever. though I haven't read nearly as much x men as I have some other characters(also have yet to read all of chris claremont's x-men). His current superman story isn't a mini, it's an ongoing but it's bi-monthly because Frank quitely is very slow(i love his work though). I don't read it though cause I don't like superman unless he's in context with other characters like Batman mainly.
If you liked new x men, get Joss whedon/John cassady's astonishing x-men. it picks up right where Morrison's new x men left off, but it's still it's own awesome thing. Highly recommended.

read Y from the beginning, you won't regret it.

and Kirkman is the next big thing, trust me. in indie AND mainstream comics. once you read some of his work (especially his post-05 work) you'll see why he's one of those writers you want to be in on.

I actually got to meet him and chat for a bit at san diego comicon as well. super nice and funny guy.
-T
Title: Re: Kevin Smith is back
Post by: Shallow on October 01, 2007, 12:04:44 PM
Grant Morrison's X-Men run is my favorite x men story ever. though I haven't read nearly as much x men as I have some other characters(also have yet to read all of chris claremont's x-men). His current superman story isn't a mini, it's an ongoing but it's bi-monthly because Frank quitely is very slow(i love his work though). I don't read it though cause I don't like superman unless he's in context with other characters like Batman mainly.
If you liked new x men, get Joss whedon/John cassady's astonishing x-men. it picks up right where Morrison's new x men left off, but it's still it's own awesome thing. Highly recommended.

read Y from the beginning, you won't regret it.

and Kirkman is the next big thing, trust me. in indie AND mainstream comics. once you read some of his work (especially his post-05 work) you'll see why he's one of those writers you want to be in on.

I actually got to meet him and chat for a bit at san diego comicon as well. super nice and funny guy.
-T


I have Astonishing. I was a big Buffy/Angel fan in the 90s. And Angel season 5 was gearing towards som great storylines until WB fucked it all up. I love Superman origin stories like what Byrne did in the 80s. I generally haven't been too fond of stuff after that. I took me a while to get into it but Smallville has really taken form as a great show.

I forgot that you do most of your browsing from work, so I'm not sure if you can download the file I gave a link to.
Title: Re: Kevin Smith is back
Post by: Tanjential on October 01, 2007, 07:34:40 PM
i can download it at home now though, but i just don't do my comic reading online. i don't want to have wasted your time in not downloading it but i will probably just cop the trades when i feel like that kind of thing. i appreciate it though.

damn you got stracyznski, new x men, invisibles, astonishing, kevin smith's marvel work...you know what the fuck is up man. why aren't you on newsarama and the comicons for that matter? where are you located at ?

-T

Title: Re: Kevin Smith is back
Post by: Shallow on October 01, 2007, 08:46:48 PM
i can download it at home now though, but i just don't do my comic reading online. i don't want to have wasted your time in not downloading it but i will probably just cop the trades when i feel like that kind of thing. i appreciate it though.

damn you got stracyznski, new x men, invisibles, astonishing, kevin smith's marvel work...you know what the fuck is up man. why aren't you on newsarama and the comicons for that matter? where are you located at ?

-T




No time wasted on my part. I found the link online and just posted it here. Comic book torrentz in the cbz files are great for issues that aren't easy to get and issues you want in good condition. I don't have many trades and I don't like opening and reopening single issues for quality purposes so I read a lot on my PC.

I'm really not as into it as I used to be. I followed the X Men from the huge issue #1 from '91 that sold like 5 million copies and soon after that Image launched and what 10 year old superhero fan didn't fall in love with what Image was doing at that time. Wildstorm was my favourite and Gen 13 was a book I would skip morning classes of high school for one wednesday a month (although it got delayed a lot) to ride my bike to the comic shop and get. Then they changed creative directions on the book and it was never the same. Bastards. It was around that time I stopped reading most books. In addition to Gen 13 going downhill fast, Spawn started getting boring, Deathblow was dead (although he's back now), Spiderman was still in post clone depression. Batman's No Man's land started strong but fell apart. X Men was losing focus. Cliffhanger Comics started with a bang but went to shit real fast. I didn't see the point in reading anything. I went from a couple dozen monthly reads to zero.

I'd go to a comic house every so often to browse for back issues (seriously the guy sells comics out of his basement. Cool place. And it's a real old style atmosphere. First name basis with everyone and most customers become friends just because they shop their together). It was there that I heard him pushing Rising Stars on some old time customers of his. I didn't know him then. I only knew of the place because my friend used to have a babysitter on the same side street and he told me about it. But I asked if Rising Stars was worth the purchase. I wasn't a sci fi Babylon 5 fan so JMS meant nothing to me. Stars was on issue 6 and Faiz, the comic house guy, got me the first 5 issues. The book was phenominal and from there I realized what I never thought about before since Image didn't have much of it and most of the mainstream 90s sucked. I realized that rock solid writing was all over the comic world. I was turned on to vertigo from there, and everything new that came out that Faiz thought was good he'd pull for me. Also if a writer I liked had something new he'd pull that too. I only go several times a year to empty out my box. The only books I have ongoing are bullets, Amazing, Wolverine and that may be it. Whatever major project comes out I get pulled (like a Niel Gaiman or Alan Mooore type thing) and whever writers like Azzarello, Bendis, Kevin Smith or JMS get a new book I get pulled too.

I'm in Toronto. I haven't been to a con in a few years. A bit crowded for my taste.
Title: Re: Kevin Smith is back
Post by: Tanjential on October 01, 2007, 11:45:04 PM
toronto canada? (probably a dumb question but many places share names)

damn, i want a comic house. that would be the shit. maybe i'll be the comic house someday.


the con was crowded but I mean I've seen tool, rage against the machine, blues festivals etc and them shits are hot AND in the fuckin sun. the con was in a nice big air conditioned building so as a concert-goer the comic con was a walk in the park.
i actually consider my day at san diego comic con a more succesful venture than my day at the rock the bells festival.


my story's not too far off. when i was like 7 i would collect the spider-man trading cards and read the backs of 'em and they all had loads of information about the stories (i know an ungodly amount of info about the clone saga) and then around age 9 I'd pick up some of the books. around age 11 I started consistently picking up spider-books and half of them were good and half of them were bad (post clone depression) unfortunately the good writers had all helmed ASM/Spectacular at some point (DeMatteis, DeFalco) and marvel gave the head spidey writer position to the new blood Howard friggin' Mackie. I followed Mackie's run for a year on each title (peter parker and ASM) and then dropped comics altogether.

around 2002/2003 I was in a book store in arizona and I saw a hardcover that had the september 11th stracyznski issue and the image of spidey at ground zero by John Romita Jr. just took my breath away...and I had seen alot of JRJR Spidey art in the past so it was new and old at once and inspired me to see what was up with this Straczynski guy(i'm a big star wars geek, but most other sci-fi like trek and bab 5 i'm indifferent too) when I got home. the first two straczysnki arcs were in trade and I jumped on the monthly title with number 40. I followed until a couple issues after they renumbered 'em at 500, so I had like 501 and around that time Kevin smith's black cat mini started getting late. around this time since I saw good writing for the first time (that late 90s spidey crap i was reading was garbage compared to the stuff that brought me back in 03) I copped watchmen, Miller's Batman work, some Paul Jenkins spidey(still wanna get his whole run someday), old essential volumes by stan lee and others

all i was picking up was Jeph Loeb/Jim lee's Hush(good shit if you haven't read it, check it out), ASM by JMS and Smith's spidey/black cat mini. so after Hush finished and smith's mini stopped coming out 66% of what brought me into the shop stopped bringing me in and I was getting more and more into music and pot and less and less of my money was going into comics so I fell off.

then civil war happened last year and comics were on everyone's lips again and i was indifferent until I heard that stracyznski was STILL writing ASM. and I love stracyznski. it was then I knew I had to catch up. since then i've collected all of Miller's daredevil/elektra work (tell me you've read that stuff, possibly my favorite comics work ever), morrison's new x-men, peter david's x-factor, bendis' new avengers, sacasa's spider-man, various classic spidey hardcovers(loeb's "blue" for example, kraven's last hunt, peter david's death of jean de wolfe), Grant Morrison's JLA run (you read jla:earth 2? fuckin astounding), and am currently working on alot of robert Kirkman and Grant morrison's complete batman. i pick up a handful of marvel titles and Frank Miller/Jim lee's bi-monthly ongoing "all -star batman and robin" and man is that an insane series. just insane in every way conceivable. alot of people hate it but I love that shit.

my space is running out, i need to buy a short box but even then, i'm going to have to seriously curb my comics purchases unless i figure something out soon. so i may be less into it soon due to no choice of my own.

i believe i've told you i'm from southern CA, an hour east of LA in the Inland Empire.

-T

Title: Re: Kevin Smith is back
Post by: Shallow on October 02, 2007, 09:01:40 AM
Yeah Toronto Canada.

Hush was okay. Felt a little cliche for my liking. The idea about who the killer was seemed like a bad TV movie and when it was over I didn't feel anything new was accomplished, as opposed to the next arc with Azzarello which I think was great.


Of course I have the Miller Daredevil work. It'd be blasphemous if I didn't. I have it in collecter's anniversary trades since I was a bit young to get it when it came out.

The 9/11 issue was touching and it meant a lot to JMS personally but sometimes real world events don't into comic land. Which is why I guess DC uses fake cities. I mean there is no way a second plane could have hit the towers in Marvel's New York. But it was certainly a great issue and it's not like it changed the story after that.

If you ever make the trip up to Toronto I'll show you the comic house.
Title: Re: Kevin Smith is back
Post by: Tanjential on October 02, 2007, 11:22:08 AM
fuck yeah, that's what's up.

we can assume all the heroes were in a secret war/galactus/other planet battle or all of the above.

but yeah, it's still hard to believe.

azzarello's arc was right after hush? damn

I didn't like the ending of hush, but the first 11 issues were almost flawless to me.

although I didn't like one of the main characters being someone we've never seen before yet who was supposed to have been all important to bruce wayne though he's existed in comics for decades and decades. outside of that, the first 11 issues were the shit. the end was okay, but yeah it could/should have been better

-T