West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: NotoriousTDA on September 15, 2008, 06:49:51 PM
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Well?
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candy shop....
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Lollipop...Ass Like That.
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when they start off making what you would call 'classic material' and after a while wack albums start being made then, it becomes a cycle and before ya know it..... kaboom it's over !!!!!!!
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i didnt mean to post songs when a rapper has fallen off.
Im asking what traits does the artist show. Feel free to use examples.
Classic Material's post almost made sense............
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i didnt mean to post songs when a rapper has fallen off.
Im asking what traits does the artist show. Feel free to use examples.
Classic Material's post almost made sense............
it did make sense. my best example is when beanie sigel dropped the solution and said it was just that and it wasn't.
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i didnt mean to post songs when a rapper has fallen off.
Im asking what traits does the artist show. Feel free to use examples.
Classic Material's post almost made sense............
i said, Lollipop & Ass Like That. when you start makin songs like that u have fallen off...
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i didnt mean to post songs when a rapper has fallen off.
Im asking what traits does the artist show. Feel free to use examples.
Classic Material's post almost made sense............
i said, Lollipop & Ass Like That. when you start makin songs like that u have fallen off...
exactly....i mean when they make shitty music is what we were getting at, i dont see how else they can fall off???
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People here are straight up lyin.
Basically they make 1 bad song and when they ain't on TV and the radio everyday, a few people starts sayin "____ fell off" over and over again and then before you know it the rest of the people start sayin the same thing. Then even if that artist makes a dope ass song people'll still say "man he fell off".
It's a bandwagon thing. People still haven't realized that Hip-Hop is all about the bandwagon.
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see spice 1 after imortalized
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The definition of falling off must only be judged by albums.
Usually there is a significant markdown in the quality of lyrics on an album, which would put the artist into the "they suck" category, compared to what they were before, which would be the "good rapper" category.
Markdowns can also be measured by: flow, beat selection, subject matter, hungriness of spit
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2 bad albums sequantilly.
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i didnt mean to post songs when a rapper has fallen off.
Im asking what traits does the artist show. Feel free to use examples.
Classic Material's post almost made sense............
i said, Lollipop & Ass Like That. when you start makin songs like that u have fallen off...
exactly....i mean when they make shitty music is what we were getting at, i dont see how else they can fall off???
Nope. You wanna hear a rapper bangin' his same style for 10, 20 years and nothing changed? Don't tell me lies, styler's obligation is based on some progress. You ain't makin' progress, you ain't shit these days. Lil' Wayne decided to use autotune, so go get it. It's his progress, he innovates himself. Or you wanna hear ''Go DJ'' 1000 times?
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Obviously the reason why alot of ppl think Lil Wayne sucks now... So yes??
I think progression should be in lyrics. If u keep the same hungry flow and good beats, u'll be fine. Think about Jay-Z, only recently didd he begin to get stale, but he has a very strong discography.
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People here are straight up lyin.
Basically they make 1 bad song and when they ain't on TV and the radio everyday, a few people starts sayin "____ fell off" over and over again and then before you know it the rest of the people start sayin the same thing. Then even if that artist makes a dope ass song people'll still say "man he fell off".
It's a bandwagon thing. People still haven't realized that Hip-Hop is all about the bandwagon.
i 100% agree with you on the bandwagon thing. but rappers also start making bad songs. but they can bounce back, but the bandwagon effect wont allow that...cuz to bandwagoners, "once you go wack, you cant go back." (no matter what).
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Listen to Murda Muzik then listen to infamy and you have your answer.
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People here are straight up lyin.
Basically they make 1 bad song and when they ain't on TV and the radio everyday, a few people starts sayin "____ fell off" over and over again and then before you know it the rest of the people start sayin the same thing. Then even if that artist makes a dope ass song people'll still say "man he fell off".
It's a bandwagon thing. People still haven't realized that Hip-Hop is all about the bandwagon.
i 100% agree with you on the bandwagon thing. but rappers also start making bad songs. but they can bounce back, but the bandwagon effect wont allow that...cuz to bandwagoners, "once you go wack, you cant go back." (no matter what).
i am, NASTRADAMUS, stillmatic
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People here are straight up lyin.
Basically they make 1 bad song and when they ain't on TV and the radio everyday, a few people starts sayin "____ fell off" over and over again and then before you know it the rest of the people start sayin the same thing. Then even if that artist makes a dope ass song people'll still say "man he fell off".
It's a bandwagon thing. People still haven't realized that Hip-Hop is all about the bandwagon.
i 100% agree with you on the bandwagon thing. but rappers also start making bad songs. but they can bounce back, but the bandwagon effect wont allow that...cuz to bandwagoners, "once you go wack, you cant go back." (no matter what).
yeah i dont agree with that. Artists can bounce back, look at snoop dogg. He dropped Da game is to be told, not to be sold, and everyone hated it. Then next he dropped no limit top dogg, and thats like one of my favourite snoop dogg cds of all time!
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People here are straight up lyin.
Basically they make 1 bad song and when they ain't on TV and the radio everyday, a few people starts sayin "____ fell off" over and over again and then before you know it the rest of the people start sayin the same thing. Then even if that artist makes a dope ass song people'll still say "man he fell off".
It's a bandwagon thing. People still haven't realized that Hip-Hop is all about the bandwagon.
i 100% agree with you on the bandwagon thing. but rappers also start making bad songs. but they can bounce back, but the bandwagon effect wont allow that...cuz to bandwagoners, "once you go wack, you cant go back." (no matter what).
yeah i dont agree with that. Artists can bounce back, look at snoop dogg. He dropped Da game is to be told, not to be sold, and everyone hated it. Then next he dropped no limit top dogg, and thats like one of my favourite snoop dogg cds of all time!
well Snoop never really fell under a bandwagon...people just didn't like that album. but a guy like 50 Cent or Wayne; watch. they could both start makin mad good shit and everyone will say its wack, no matter how good it is...
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I base it on albums mainly... if an artist drops some solid albums, and then drops a wack album, and then another, and another, and then doesn't bounce back with another dope one, I consider them as having fell off
it's hard to call sometimes though, people have different tastes... like for example, some people may like Lil' Wayne's older shit more so than his new, and vice versa
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When they stop having good songs on their next albums, not enough likable songs to buy the album. Great example, Busta Rhymes after ELE, Extinction Level Event. Lil Wayne fell off b4 Hurricane Katrina. When Birdman did the song Neck uv da Woods, when Wayne was doing the hook, he sounded like he was drunk with marbles or rocks in his mouth.
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Stillmatic was the shit tho common guy.
I cant agree with Lil wayne fallen off when the guy juts sold 2 million records lol common now be reasonable.
Fallen is tuff to call sometimes people swithc up there style it dosent work but its something they wanted to do for personal reason or juts to switch it up.
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I cant agree with Lil wayne fallen off when the guy juts sold 2 million records
So if he sung about doo-doo and still sold 4 million, he wouldn't have fallen off?
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IMO, you basivally fall off when you drop an album (or worse yet,multiple albums) that illustrate none of the hunger, skill and lyrics you're known for. See Eminem's Encore or 50's work after GRODT, pretty much.
But if you manage to come back after falling off - more power to you.
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But if you manage to come back after falling off - more power to you.
Yeah this is some true shit.
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I cant agree with Lil wayne fallen off when the guy juts sold 2 million records
So if he sung about doo-doo and still sold 4 million, he wouldn't have fallen off?
didn't already do that? :D
na, Wayne sold so much cuz he has the biggest fan base in music. some people feel his music, some feel his swag, girls think hes just the "hottest" thing. i mean he has what it takes to sell records.
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So we all agree
FAllen OFf = Style stays the same, but it's not as good as it was before...
I dont want to start something but... EXAMPLE: Snoop Dogg after he left Death Row, (no limit days)
Um Kurupt in his later years...
Or what if they intentionally switched their style up to Sucky (or different). Hm,mmmm
This is pointless, its like a G.O.A.T. thread.
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candy shop....
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IMO, you basivally fall off when you drop an album (or worse yet,multiple albums) that illustrate none of the hunger, skill and lyrics you're known for. See Eminem's Encore or 50's work after GRODT, pretty much.
But if you manage to come back after falling off - more power to you.
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50 was never lyrical fuck you talkin about fuck boy. 50 was only a rapper with average skill but he made dope songs. That's all.
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^^ Have you ever heard Power Of The Dollar ? He had lyrics back then.
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when they switch to Country music n black ball new west artists ::)
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when they switch to Country music n black ball new west artists ::)
Crooked I blackballed himself. I don't see anyone else that you could mean.
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why would he blackball himself??
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^^ Have you ever heard Power Of The Dollar ? He had lyrics back then.
yes i have and he was def not lyrical. youre just confusing it cuz u think he was better back then. he def wasnt lyrical he was just more raw, more gutter wit it.
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why would he blackball himself??
Because he wanted so bad to be on Death Row.