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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on June 19, 2009, 07:07:16 PM
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THIS IS WHY YOU DONT FUCK WITH P2P.
A federal jury found Jammie Thomas-Rasset guilty of illegal file-sharing and fined the 32-year-old mother of four $1.92 million, the AP reports. She was found to have violated the copyrights on 24 songs and each carried an $80,000 penalty. This was the second trial of Thomas-Rasset, after an error in jury instructions in 2007 prompted a retrial. Of more than 30,000 similar cases, most settled out of court for about $3,500; Thomas-Rasset's is the first such case to go to trial.
Recording companies accused Thomas-Rasset of sharing 1,700 songs on Kazaa and identified her through her screen name and IP address. Lawyers for the recording companies asked for such a large penalty to deter others from illegally distributing the music of Gloria Estefan, Sheryl Crow, Green Day, and Journey, among others, as Thomas-Rasset stood accused of doing. Eighty thousand dollars for a Journey song? I'm pretty sure it can be had legally for a buck.
Thomas-Rasset's file-sharing occurred in 2005, and Kazaa has since reached a settlement with the music companies to become a legal subscription service. The recording industry has also changed its tactics in fighting file-sharing; no lawsuits like the one against Thomas-Rasset have been filed since August. Bad timing for her. Where's she going to find almost $2 million? "There's no way they're ever going to get that," she said.
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for 24 songs?
damn and why is that any different than the downloadin on this site?
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lol thats a bit excessive
why is our court system hearing this shit?
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yeah, shes fucked.
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how does shit like that happen?
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i thought they usually have warnings. my mate got a warning and had to lay off the downloading for a while
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what? can she even pay that?
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people still using Kazaa? smh
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Yeah she's fucked. She can't pay that, so they'll take all her assets, and then throw her in jail. LOL fucking pwned, but Honestly that's a bullshit ruling. She should only have to pay for each track she was ripping.
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uh I'm pretty sure the courts overruled the iraa's ridiculous claims of thousands per song... i can find the article tomorrow but i know its less than 10 dollars per song now... if this is pursueable at all
oh well no worries for us canadians
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this is the second trial. in the first one she lost and was ordered to pay $220,000. the judge in the first case admitted he made some fuckups instructing the jury, it went back to court and now she got found guilty again, having to pay the $1.92mil
they offered to settle the case before the trial for $3-5000 but she said no, bet she wishes she didnt use that p2p now
bittorrent and rapidshare/megaupload/whatever will be next on the hit list of the RIAA. private trackers for bittorrent keep logs, so does rapidshare, megaupload etc
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labels can't stop downloading ;)
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why is our court system hearing this shit?
Cash rules everything around you, still.
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Nice one, if anything this kind of scandalous decision just motivates people to defy these greedy bastard corporations all the more.
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Nice one, if anything this kind of scandalous decision just motivates people to defy these greedy bastard corporations all the more.
probably not.
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That's what you get for fucking with RIAA-Mafia.
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thats nice...sue a mother of four for money she most likely doesnt have and will never have.
good job.
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thats nice...sue a mother of four for money she most likely doesnt have and will never have.
good job.
Right, it's extortion on a level which makes your head spin. Perhaps now is an appropriate moment for artists to counter sue these music corporations for extorting them. I find it bewildering that the music labels would pursue this course of action when the largest aspect of the battle being waged is a pr battle and on that level, they couldn't have possibly scored a bigger own goal. I do stand by what I said regarding every criminal action like this leading to a reaction from most people which only reaffirms their hate and in turn ratchets up the level of defiance. In fact when the music conglomerate decided to focus their attentions on Pirate Bay, what happened within the space of a day was the number of people who downloaded pirate bay increased markedly. I think this is just indicative of why the music labels can not win their battle with extortion, threatening behaviour and hardcore draconian policies. The only way they can win this is to give everyone a fairer deal, that means stop screwing the artists, recognise that downloading has created a much larger profit margin to be achieved because of the elimination of so many costs that go hand in hand with conventional distribution systems and therefore have this reflected in the prices. I still see albums costing 10.00 (sterling) to download, that figure is crazy.
As it is this is just another self inflicted wound by the music industry and if they don't recognise the landscape in which they are operating in, they certainly won't hit a main artery but they will continue to suffer.
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y the fuck wouldnt they go after the big sites like albumhunt n shit rather then waste time doin this?
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Hopefully this case makes it's way to the Supreme Court so this waste of time BS case can be thrown out. What a joke this is!
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y the fuck wouldnt they go after the big sites like albumhunt n shit rather then waste time doin this?
they could, but you know that a new site will come anyway.
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y the fuck wouldnt they go after the big sites like albumhunt n shit rather then waste time doin this?
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labels can't stop downloading ;)
but downloading can stop labels from investing in music...
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labels can't stop downloading ;)
but downloading can stop labels from investing in music...
well they were sleeping: technology wasn't.
hence i blame them more than the downloaders
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labels can't stop downloading ;)
but downloading can stop labels from investing in music...
well they were sleeping: technology wasn't.
hence i blame them more than the downloaders
theres no way they would have been ready for downloading.
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Hopefully this case makes it's way to the Supreme Court so this waste of time BS case can be thrown out. What a joke this is!
You should represent her.
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labels can't stop downloading ;)
but downloading can stop labels from investing in music...
well they were sleeping: technology wasn't.
hence i blame them more than the downloaders
theres no way they would have been ready for downloading.
they could have adapted to it more, in stead of turning their backs to it.
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if she had settled out of court she would be fine, why would she go to trail the record company will automatically win more money better lawyers.
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labels can't stop downloading
but downloading can stop labels from investing in music
well,they where sleeping,hence I blame them
still sleeping,in meanwhile shit is colapsing
well fuck them, cause hiphop doesn't need majors to survive
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lol thats a bit excessive
why is our court system hearing this shit?
it is illegal though. It is stealing. That music was created by somebody else and it's being stolen. It's killing the music industry... no telling how much great music is not going to ever be created because of it. I'm serious, I know we like gettin free shit, but you got to be real, how is it any different from walking in a record store and stealing?
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its a 2way street
they steal from us so lets get it
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lol
they steal our money
they get their muzik stolen
its a 2way street
they steal from us so lets get it
steal what?
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Now wasn't it worth it to just buy the damned albums, for real though..
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lol thats a bit excessive
why is our court system hearing this shit?
it is illegal though. It is stealing. That music was created by somebody else and it's being stolen. It's killing the music industry... no telling how much great music is not going to ever be created because of it. I'm serious, I know we like gettin free shit, but you got to be real, how is it any different from walking in a record store and stealing?
If I walk into a shop and steal an album, there is one less album on the shelf, whereas now if I choose to do so I am obtaining a digital copy. If you think about it the internet just allows for the facilitation of shared files on a worldwide basis, but the principle behind it is no different to being a youngster, copying an album of your friends onto tape. Barring them shutting the internet down completely in it's existing structure, they can't stop this, therefore it is time they moved with the times. There are flip sides to distribution of music through the internet most notably promotion, increased revenue through touring but likewise downsides, I don't dispute that but they need to embrace the business model and I think as time elapses the bit torrents of this world will compromise with the music companies.
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lol thats a bit excessive
why is our court system hearing this shit?
it is illegal though. It is stealing. That music was created by somebody else and it's being stolen. It's killing the music industry... no telling how much great music is not going to ever be created because of it. I'm serious, I know we like gettin free shit, but you got to be real, how is it any different from walking in a record store and stealing?
if you walk into a record store, and steal 2 albums, will they fine you for 1.92 million?
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thats fucked up but lol @
this is the second trial. in the first one she lost and was ordered to pay $220,000. the judge in the first case admitted he made some fuckups instructing the jury, it went back to court and now she got found guilty again, having to pay the $1.92mil
they offered to settle the case before the trial for $3-5000 but she said no, bet she wishes she didnt use that p2p now
bittorrent and rapidshare/megaupload/whatever will be next on the hit list of the RIAA. private trackers for bittorrent keep logs, so does rapidshare, megaupload etc
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thats nice...sue a mother of four for money she most likely doesnt have and will never have.
good job.
Seriously. Does the country not have more important issues to deal with than illegal music downloads?