West Coast Connection Forum
Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Trauma-san on April 09, 2003, 09:50:02 PM
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I, once again, am going to open my eyes to the situation going on, and explain it to the blind.
In 2000 George Bush won an election that was hotly contested. He ALMOST lost, to the point that his opposition, Al Gore, a democrat, actually had more votes than he. It came down to the electoral college, which showed Bush as Winning. There was a ton of debate about Florida, which Bush won, but Gore possibly should have. Anyways, whatever you believe happened, either way you look at it, George Bush was elected president.
Since that time, Democrats, and liberals, and pretty much anybody who supported Al Gore personally, or just his party, have done everything they can do to delegitimize this presidency. They feel that George Bush isn't the president, Al Gore should have been, and therefore, they refuse to do ANYTHING that will recognize George Bush as president.
The most striking, and STUNNING example of this, is the recent conflict over the war in Iraq. Bill Clinton bombed several countries, and unfortunately, had to invoke u.s. military action on several occasions. NONE of this was met with any opposition, because generally, the american politicians rally around any president in times of war, or military action. Democrats and Republicans alike supported the Democratic presidents decision to use military force.... it's a noble thing to do, because it shows above all else, what is most important is the lives of americans, and their wellbeing, not political differences.
Flash forward to 2002-2003. The democratic party has long been a champion of opressed people's rights. They fight for aid to the underpriviledged, equal rights for gays, etc. etc. etc... you could even go so far as to claim that the entire democratic platform is based on helping out the underdog.
The democratic party is SO MAD and furious that George Bush 'cheated' in their eyes to win the presidency, they refuse to support anything that he does. They won't validate or approve nominations he places, they run in direct opposition to any bill he pushes, and now, they are even acting AGAINST THEIR OWN NATURE by opposing the war in Iraq. They come up with any illogical argument they can for why they are against it, but the real reason is: They don't agree with anything Bush does, as a principle. They don't want him as president, and they don't want to stand with him on anything. Normally, they would rally behind the war, as a patriotic stance (like republicans did with clinton), and also, because the war's end objective will result in millions of oppressed people in Iraq being liberated. NORMALLY, democrats would applaud this, as would liberals, or anyone with that mindset. Given the political climate though, they've went against what their hearts have told them, and acted out of rage. They've said that Iraqis didn't want us there. That was proven false by the people dancing in the streets of Iraq, and learning how to say "Thank you mister for helping me" in English. Democrats have said that their will be a ton of casualties, and that we can't fight the urban warfare that we'll come across... that hasn't happened. Democrats have said that Terrorism will increase around the world; it's actually decreased since the war started.
The whole thing to me is disgusting. This was IS just, we ARE doing a good thing, and whatever the past history of George Bush is, at THIS moment, anyone with a heart, a conscience, or a mind would logically stand with him. 81% of america agrees by the latest poll; the democratic party is setting itself up for a dangerous situation; democratic presidential candidates have even went so far as to compare Bush to Saddam, as well as asking for an 'american regime change', saying it's an unjust war, etc. etc.... with 81% of americans dissagreeing, is this REALLY the position the democrats want to take?
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"I can't believe they elected me. I was running against peace and prosperity"
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You're right when you say you're talking to the blind Trauma, because the only people who will buy that claptrap are the blind, moronic people who know nothing about the world but what they see on television. The whole post is misguided nonsense, as I have come to expect from you in this forum.
Besides you killed your own argument in the first paragraph. Gore got more votes, Bush is an illegal president. End of story.
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Yeah. The Democrats are just as bad as the Republicans. They are basically the same thing. Although I would argue that Bush is the worst president in history and that Clinton was one of the best.
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Yeah. The Democrats are just as bad as the Republicans. They are basically the same thing. Although I would argue that Bush is the worst president in history and that Clinton was one of the best.
i'd go with fdr
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"I can't believe they elected me. I was running against peace and prosperity"
LMAO that was a funny bushism ;D
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The responses prove my point. Everything is an argument about how bush won the election, therefore nobody will validate his presidency. That's why he doesn't get any support. And Kaidy, you missed the argument. Sorry, maybe this is too much of a 'big boy' topic for you.
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Gore got more votes, Bush is an illegal president. End of story.
Dear God you are stupid. Do you know what an electoral college is?
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And Kaidy, you missed the argument. Sorry, maybe this is too much of a 'big boy' topic for you.
Don't ever patronise me you ignorant fuckwit. In fact don't even acknowledge my posts any more, just go and live in your happy clappy little world and be sure not to ever mention my name in one of your inane posts ever again.
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Gore got more votes, Bush is an illegal president. End of story.
LOL
This is a classic quote.
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Don't ever patronise me you ignorant fuckwit. In fact don't even acknowledge my posts any more, just go and live in your happy clappy little world and be sure not to ever mention my name in one of your inane posts ever again.
OUCH
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How is that "OUCH"??...The idiot totally ignored CWalkers question...PeACe
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How is that "OUCH"??...The idiot totally ignored CWalkers question...PeACe
yes I've started to ignore all posts from people whose intellectual level is so far removed from mine that we cannot discuss issues evenly and fairly. But just for the record, yes I know plenty about the electoral college, in fact I know more about the USA's politics and history than CWalker himself. It's a shame that such a fantastic patriot is so incredibly ignorant of the nation he claims to love.
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yes I know plenty about the electoral college, in fact I know more about the USA's politics and history than CWalker himself. It's a shame that such a fantastic patriot is so incredibly ignorant of the nation he claims to love.
LMFAO, this is too easy. I'll let CWalker blast this post. LOL
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^ You havent proven yourself in this Forum, thus, you have no right to dismiss others comments. Now attack his argument. Attack, biyatch!!!
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^ You havent proven yourself in this Forum, thus, you have no right to dismiss others comments. Now attack his argument. Attack, biyatch!!!
That was an argument?
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"I know more about the USA's politics and history than CWalker himself. It's a shame that such a fantastic patriot is so incredibly ignorant of the nation he claims to love. "
- Kaidy
This is an argument NIK, I know you're having trouble developing one of your own. But keep tryin sweet heart.
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LMFAO, this is too easy. I'll let CWalker blast this post. LOL
Why? Are you too ridiculously unintelligent to make your own comments? Hmm passing the buck to CWalker, that says a great deal about you doesn't it. Come back at me when you actually have something to say duckspeaker. Quack, quack quack...
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LMFAO, this is too easy. I'll let CWalker blast this post. LOL
Quack, quack quack...
There IS a gay called Agua on thsee herre forums :D
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There IS a gay called Agua on thsee herre forums
^ WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS MEAN?
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Now attack his argument. Attack, biyatch!!!
Fine.
But just for the record, yes I know plenty about the electoral college, in fact I know more about the USA's politics and history than CWalker himself
Gore got more votes, Bush is an illegal president. End of story.
Done.
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There was electoral fraud in Florida - Gore carried the state - Jeb was meant to only cross ex - con blacks off the voting list, instead he crossed anyone who was black and shared the same birthday or name with an ex - felon off the list
Thus loads of blacks were not allowed to vote who would have voted Gore
Then the supreme court, 4 republicans and three democrats, gave Bush the win
Robbery
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There was electoral fraud in Florida - Gore carried the state - Jeb was meant to only cross ex - con blacks off the voting list, instead he crossed anyone who was black and shared the same birthday or name with an ex - felon off the list
Thus loads of blacks were not allowed to vote who would have voted Gore
Then the supreme court, 4 republicans and three democrats, gave Bush the win
Robbery
I admit that i dont wanna be beating a dead horse here, but what Jab just said is what I always thought occured in Florida.
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Bullshit, we can all whine about how Gore MIGHT HAVE won it, blah blah blah. but jus plug ur shithole cuz that is jus talk out the ass, aint nothing illegal or undemocratic about the electoral college, it was made to give equal representatin in all the states of US....so basically the underdog states dont get totally ignored, cuz think about it....in the east coast theres a bunch of smal lil states and if there was no electoral colege all the candidates for presidency would just go aorund big states like Cali and not care much about areas that are denselty populated and shit
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Save the first couple sentences, that was the first Quake post I enjoyed reading. Keep it up!