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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Connection => Topic started by: Sccit on February 28, 2022, 12:02:02 PM
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and some cats claim he wasn’t bitter bout bein left out the super bowl
:mjlol:
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Dre don't fuck with strippers i guess. The simplest explanation being the most reliable in many cases
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Dre GAVE him his career. Anything that happened during that career - including Kanye - doesn't preclude who made it possible in the first place. So I really don't understand what that statement means and it doesn't seem he thought it through before saying it.
P.S. Game looks like he's turning into Kanye West - the all black getup, the mask, the photos.. he's borrowing an awful lot.
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Jt spoke on this recently. He said game got the aftermath deal and blew the budget so he got shelved. 50 then sees the potential in him and they work and he takes off. If I'm not mistaken it was ivonne who pushed for them to work together.
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Jt spoke on this recently. He said game got the aftermath deal and blew the budget so he got shelved. 50 then sees the potential in him and they work and he takes off. If I'm not mistaken it was ivonne who pushed for them to work together.
Yep. Dre produced one album and then wiped his hands from him because Game went against 50, Em, and Interscope. All Dre did was give him beats and took some promo shots for the debut album. This was not a similar situation like how Dre groomed Eminem or K. Dot.
People are just mad because he went against Dre. This will be an interesting interview though. Hopefully it's factual and not fairytales like he's been known to do.
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Dre GAVE him his career. Anything that happened during that career - including Kanye - doesn't preclude who made it possible in the first place. So I really don't understand what that statement means and it doesn't seem he thought it through before saying it.
P.S. Game looks like he's turning into Kanye West - the all black getup, the mask, the photos.. he's borrowing an awful lot.
typical game
overemotional, riding some1 else wave
the lebron of rap
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typical game
overemotional, riding some1 else wave
the lebron of rap
At the risk of sounding repetitive, it just seems that Game wouldn't even have a career to complain about if it wasn't for people like Dr. Dre.
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If it’s one rapper that I’ve grown tired of because of his constant crying is the game. That foo has always been a dope rapper, but always bitter about some shit. Dr. Dre literally helped him make his career what it was. Game said JT the bigga was the problem, then Dr. Dre, then 50 Cent, but really he is the problem. All this gangsta rap shit, but whin all the time.
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At the risk of sounding repetitive, it just seems that Game wouldn't even have a career to complain about if it wasn't for people like Dr. Dre.
He had a career gong on prior to dre, went to dre and then got put on the shelf. your narrative simply doesn't add up. can someone make it make sense for me? jt should get the props you give dre for discovering him.
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He had a career gong on prior to dre, went to dre and then got put on the shelf. your narrative simply doesn't add up. can someone make it make sense for me? jt should get the props you give dre for discovering him.
If he had stuck with JT he would have been a nobody. Dre and interscope gave him the spotlight. Game is just doing Game things in trying to get attention. Not even worth discussing his comments.
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Game is wrong for this statement.
You ever notice Game always has these big features on his albums but nobody ever has him featured on their album's? The only big names that let Game appear on their album's is Dre and Snoop.........
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He had a career gong on prior to dre, went to dre and then got put on the shelf. your narrative simply doesn't add up. can someone make it make sense for me? jt should get the props you give dre for discovering him.
come on bro
you really think he woulda been a platinum artist stickin wit jt?
that first album put him in the national spotlight .. he wasnt doin that wit the jt mixtapes
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jt made him a rapper.
50 cent made him a wordwide known star.
dre made a half album and a bunch of pr photo for him.
he tryin to suck dres dick since day one thats another thing...
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All Dre did was give him beats and took some promo shots for the debut album. This was not a similar situation like how Dre groomed Eminem or K. Dot.
are you serious? he executive produced the debut album. he produced 6 songs and mixed whole album except of a few songs (3 or 4). He made Kanye, Just Blaze, Eminem, Nate Dogg, Timbaland, Busta Rhymes, Mary J Blige involved with the project. This is completely a Dr. Dre project that he is %100 involved. Thats why im very dissapointed that he made this effort for someone like the game. I'm sure he feels the same today
What did Dre do for Kendrick ever? Kendrick does everything with his own team, Dre just signed him and let him do what we wanna do.
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This is completely a Dr. Dre project that he is %100 involved.
50 cent sayin all time he wrote half of the album, at least the singles.
So completely dre project with 50% 50 cent.
wtf the game actaully doin than?!
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50 cent sayin all time he wrote half of the album, at least the singles.
So completely dre project with 50% 50 cent.
wtf the game actaully doin than?!
restless is a complete dr. dre project that he executive produced but sure he didnt write any lyrics for X, he is also responsible for 50 to pick him to write for documentary. what i mean he is %100 involved means he execuvited produced and manged everything to happen.
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He had a career gong on prior to dre, went to dre and then got put on the shelf. your narrative simply doesn't add up. can someone make it make sense for me? jt should get the props you give dre for discovering him.
Dr. Dre molded him into a superstar else like Game has said in the past. JT couldn't have done that. Oh yeah, who has JT made a superstar?
50 cent sayin all time he wrote half of the album, at least the singles.
So completely dre project with 50% 50 cent.
wtf the game actaully doin than?!
50 did not write half of the album. I have never even heard him claim that he did 50% of it. He said some of the beats on the album were meant for his second album and he had already made HOOKS for them. 50 wrote hooks for Game and that's it.
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there is a chance i remember wronge...
but for example here he tell more than just hooks for singles:
https://hiphopdx.com/news/id.32876/title.50-cent-explains-how-the-massacre-became-games-debut-the-documentary#
https://www.youtube.com/v/yzpjFsZi4lM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzpjFsZi4lM)
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As usual u guys r moving the goal post. I never said anything about game being a superstar I was responding to the comment that drew gave game his career. If you want to say that drew made him a superstar, I'll allow it but it doesn't change the fact that jt game him his career.
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As usual u guys r moving the goal post. I never said anything about game being a superstar I was responding to the comment that drew gave game his career. If you want to say that drew made him a superstar, I'll allow it but it doesn't change the fact that jt game him his career.
but his career is the career of a superstar lol
so there is no goalpost, there are millions of independent rappers tho .. that’s not really a career if they not getting discovered
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The whole rap game makes me laughs
https://youtu.be/atBusAeMS1g
https://youtu.be/myVnlQx5Lfw
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are you serious? he executive produced the debut album. he produced 6 songs and mixed whole album except of a few songs (3 or 4). He made Kanye, Just Blaze, Eminem, Nate Dogg, Timbaland, Busta Rhymes, Mary J Blige involved with the project. This is completely a Dr. Dre project that he is %100 involved. Thats why im very dissapointed that he made this effort for someone like the game. I'm sure he feels the same today
Plus Dre narrated "the red album" plus he features on a song. Dre features on "the documentary 2", Dre gave a solo song to game on his "compton" album.
And even if we have no proof about it, im sure Dre is involved in "doctor's advocate" his touch is everywhere on this album.
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Plus Dre narrated "the red album" plus he features on a song. Dre features on "the documentary 2", Dre gave a solo song to game on his "compton" album.
And even if we have no proof about it, im sure Dre is involved in "doctor's advocate" his touch is everywhere on this album.
i don't think dre involved with "doctor's advocate" but if dre wouldnt open the door for game, he would have chance to work with those producers on Doctors advocate album. JR Rotem, Scott Storch, Just Blaze, DJ Khalil, Swizz Beatz, Kanye West, Nottz... Game already had a succesful debut with big help of Dre and 50 so it wasnt hard for him to find another lable and most wanted producers to work on his next album. What if he never had "The Documentary" album? he would be still struggling with JT or other no name producers. Look at Bishop lamont's situation today and u will see what i mean. However i wish Bishop had that shot instead The Game to release an aftermath debut with same Documentary album beats.
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You guys are missing the bad boy and jimmy henchmen clout that game had in the industry
Game used to write for bad boy just like 50 and game was managed by henchman
At one point game was a Sean John model
What you assume my have been all dre's doing may be bad boys and henchman's power
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are you serious? he executive produced the debut album. he produced 6 songs and mixed whole album except of a few songs (3 or 4). He made Kanye, Just Blaze, Eminem, Nate Dogg, Timbaland, Busta Rhymes, Mary J Blige involved with the project. This is completely a Dr. Dre project that he is %100 involved. Thats why im very dissapointed that he made this effort for someone like the game. I'm sure he feels the same today
What did Dre do for Kendrick ever? Kendrick does everything with his own team, Dre just signed him and let him do what we wanna do.
Dre put him on the shelf. Jimmy moved him over to G-Unit. Gave Game beats originally for someone else. Once the G-Unit beef happened, Dre completely removed himself from the equation and then Game landed on Geffen. I'm not saying Dre didn't help but Game has turned in some pretty solid albums without Dre's involvement. Through his association with Dre/Aftermath/50, he was able to make relationships with other artists that he still has to this day.
I will say though, none of us really know the extent (or lack thereof) of Dre's involvement in Game's career. You rarely hear Dre talking about Game but you will occasionally see him in the studio listening to tracks or working on tracks.
We are also only seeing a snippet of a 2-3 hour interview so we will have to wait and see how the conversation goes and if it was taken out of context.
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You guys are missing the bad boy and jimmy henchmen clout that game had in the industry
Game used to write for bad boy just like 50 and game was managed by henchman
At one point game was a Sean John model
What you assume my have been all dre's doing may be bad boys and henchman's power
lmao never change fam
50 had “clout” too .. but we saw how far he went before dre got to him. give credit where it’s due.
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LMFAO... Maybe if he stayed with JT rapping like the dollarstore version of SHYNE he would have been bigger...
Wack 100 manages Ray J. Ray J gave wack the other parts of the sex tape & wack 100 traded the sex tapes for the feature and a couple beats.
How long ago was The Game dissing Kanye rubbing it in that he fucked "KIKI" it feels like it was recently.
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What Game should have said was that Kayne did more for him in 2 weeks than Dre did for him over the last year. Because without Kayne's help lately Game would still be irrelevant.
By dissing Dre, Game gets some publicity and people talk about him again. Has anyone truly burned a bridge with Dre? Cold 187um and Kokane dissed him and still work with him. Cube dissed him and they are still cool. 50 cent dissed him and performed at the Superbowl.
Dre is simply too big to get caught in his feelings over dumb stuff like this.
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Two more post moving the goal post. One more thing... tupacs former manager has said a few times that he went to dr to work with dre and Snoop only to find out that dre wasn't as hands on as he would have liked.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fIhJu0OyTI
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Game is wrong for this statement.
You ever notice Game always has these big features on his albums but nobody ever has him featured on their album's? The only big names that let Game appear on their album's is Dre and Snoop.........
The only one I can think of that's not Dre or Snoop is Nas. Nas featured Game on Hustlers that was produced by Dre on Hip Hop Is Dead.
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Plus Dre narrated "the red album" plus he features on a song. Dre features on "the documentary 2", Dre gave a solo song to game on his "compton" album.
And even if we have no proof about it, im sure Dre is involved in "doctor's advocate" his touch is everywhere on this album.
Dre executive produced Jesus Piece too. Dre's place in Game's legacy can't be ignored. He has a large part in his career that can't be denied.
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The only one I can think of that's not Dre or Snoop is Nas. Nas featured Game on Hustlers that was produced by Dre on Hip Hop Is Dead.
Yeah Nas & Ludacris had him on Theater of the Mind. No one seems to care about having Game on their album & bet that's not even Kanye in the video.
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Amazing video and song tho.
LIFE WAS NEVER EAZY
Hope Kanye is all over his album, Dreams, Mula & Eazy is some of Game's best work.
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Dre executive produced Jesus Piece too. Dre's place in Game's legacy can't be ignored. He has a large part in his career that can't be denied.
bro are you stupid? Dre promised Game records for Da, LAX, Red, Jesus Piece the list goes on. he did not fucking ep Jesus Piece, he wouldn't even mix or master Dead People (red album leftover) so one of Game's producer had to remix it. fuck Dre
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bro are you stupid? Dre promised Game records for Da, LAX, Red, Jesus Piece the list goes on. he did not fucking ep Jesus Piece, he wouldn't even mix or master Dead People (red album leftover) so one of Game's producer had to remix it. fuck Dre
We don’t know what did or didn’t happen as far as promises go if the story is coming from Game
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Dre executive produced Jesus Piece too. Dre's place in Game's legacy can't be ignored. He has a large part in his career that can't be denied.
No on jesus piece its Dre from cool & dre.
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Game needs to calm down
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bro are you stupid? Dre promised Game records for Da, LAX, Red, Jesus Piece the list goes on. he did not fucking ep Jesus Piece, he wouldn't even mix or master Dead People (red album leftover) so one of Game's producer had to remix it. fuck Dre
Hahahahaha
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bro are you stupid? Dre promised Game records for Da, LAX, Red, Jesus Piece the list goes on. he did not fucking ep Jesus Piece, he wouldn't even mix or master Dead People (red album leftover) so one of Game's producer had to remix it. fuck Dre
dre doesn’t master tracks
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Julia Fox says she lost 15 pounds dating Kanye
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Julia Fox says she lost 15 pounds dating Kanye
she lowkey fell off
bitch was fine as shit in uncut gems
look like a diff person nowadays
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Julia Fox says she lost 15 pounds dating Kanye
I always suspected Kanye of being heavily into coke
As far as Game goes, he seems to have a new album to promote so he's causing controversy again.
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there’s more
https://www.instagram.com/p/CasQDj_AbEt/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=3fcc8922-33ec-4f99-88a0-ab895609dffc&ig_mid=D6A56D3A-A491-4E98-8C2D-4EFB481AF1C7
smh
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https://hiphopdx.com/news/id.68540/title.50-cent-reacts-to-the-games-claim-kanye-west-did-more-than-dr-dre-for-his-career
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there’s more
https://www.instagram.com/p/CasQDj_AbEt/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=3fcc8922-33ec-4f99-88a0-ab895609dffc&ig_mid=D6A56D3A-A491-4E98-8C2D-4EFB481AF1C7
smh
Lmaooooo this foo trippin
Oh and 50> game. They are not equal lmao
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Lmaooooo this foo trippin
Oh and 50> game. They are not equal lmao
The Game is delusional. 50 is one of the top selling rap artists of all time with a top 10 selling album and another in the top 25. The Game is not even in the conversation. He did have a platinum selling album or two, but hasn't even come close to 50's success.
He must be desperate for money and attention.
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Game’s best moments nowhere near 50’s. Not even close.
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Lol at the game :D someone put drugs in his weed.
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And now he wants verzuz with Eminem.
Lol. Just lol.
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Game is just trying to create some buzz for his album, and everybody's falling for it.
This is marketing 101.
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Game is just trying to create some buzz for his album, and everybody's falling for it.
This is marketing 101.
He's following in the footsteps of his idol and the guppies on here have been well trained to fall for the baited hook. Thing is he's an amateur compared to Dres levels of finesse but it shows you how simple these Simons is...
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they all gay . dre, 50,Kanye,game..
who still listen To their wack music..
not me.
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LMFAO... Maybe if he stayed with JT rapping like the dollarstore version of SHYNE he would have been bigger...
Wack 100 manages Ray J. Ray J gave wack the other parts of the sex tape & wack 100 traded the sex tapes for the feature and a couple beats.
How long ago was The Game dissing Kanye rubbing it in that he fucked "KIKI" it feels like it was recently.
You act like everyone who goes to Dre blows up. He's had more failed artist than successes. There's nothing wrong with that either but don't make it sound like he's all you need. To be a superstar requires more than what Dre provides. You do need management, marketing, promotion, lawyers etc.
https://youtu.be/Xas5JDK0ZqY
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Game > 50
Real talk though they would make a great team even today. I heard 50's latest, he still got it and Game still got it. Shame how things worked out.
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Last Game album I bought was Doctor's Advocate - all downhill from there. I actually liked it better than The Documentary. It sounded more like a west coast album. The Doc was heavily east coast influenced throughout and Game really didn't sound like he was from LA - he sounded like the people he claims to have studied who were mostly east coast rappers. Doctor's Advocate's sound was a major shift westward. But after that, it was just a big old ball of WTF.
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Man, I’ve been bumping Doctor’s Advocate for two days straight. I didn’t realize how dope this album is with or without Dre’s production. I feel like even without Dre, the man laid the path for him to drop something as dope as this. Crazy how years have shown true colors.
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The first ten minutes. He talks about Jimmy Henchman + Game's early days at Aftermath.
https://youtu.be/31888C5RvHo
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I love Game to death, but let's keep it real, he's sayin' this 'cause Kanye been fuckin' with him lately. I'm startin' to feel he gave him that 7 million too though.
You act like everyone who goes to Dre blows up. He's had more failed artist than successes. There's nothing wrong with that either but don't make it sound like he's all you need. To be a superstar requires more than what Dre provides. You do need management, marketing, promotion, lawyers etc.
Some people just ain't meant to be stars. It is what it is. Dre has had more failed artists than successes? Has he really though? Let's list all the artists Dr. Dre actually produced instead of just signing.
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^ You go right ahead, take your time. Start from Ruthless. You moving the goal post from signing to producing won't help you either.
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^ You go right ahead, take your time. Start from Ruthless. You moving the goal post from signing to producing won't help you either.
So you meant all the artists Dr. Dre has produced, there are more failures than successes?
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he’s just looking for a way to talk down on dr. dre because he dislikes him
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So you meant all the artists Dr. Dre has produced, there are more failures than successes?
I was just responding to the post that contributes Games success with Dre. I'm using the same logic to show how that's simply not true because there are others who Dre has worked with who haven't been successful.
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I was just responding to the post that contributes Games success with Dre. I'm using the same logic to show how that's simply not true because there are others who Dre has worked with who haven't been successful.
the word you’re lookin for is attributes bro .. the game was a mixtape rapper pre-dre. much like 50. we can speculate all we like, but we know where they both ended up.
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the word you’re lookin for is attributes bro .. the game was a mixtape rapper pre-dre. much like 50. we can speculate all we like, but we know where they both ended up.
50 had two deals prior to Shady. One with Columbia and one with Land speed. He was tutored by Jam Master Jay and a ghostwriter for bad boy. Wanksta was a hit before Dre's In Da Club even dropped. Yet you attribute everything to Dre?
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50 had two deals prior to Shady. One with Columbia and one with Land speed. He was tutored by Jam Master Jay and a ghostwriter for bad boy. Wanksta was a hit before Dre's In Da Club even dropped. Yet you attribute everything to Dre?
so 50 was a superstar before dre?
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he had street buzz, but nothing he ever put out even charted until he signed wit shadt/aftermath
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so 50 was a superstar before dre?
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he had street buzz, but nothing he ever put out even charted until he signed wit shadt/aftermath
He signed with Shady and had a hit with Wanksta. Nuff said.
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He signed with Shady and had a hit with Wanksta. Nuff said.
and it was only a hit after he signed
#thatdrestimulus
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I was just responding to the post that contributes Games success with Dre. I'm using the same logic to show how that's simply not true because there are others who Dre has worked with who haven't been successful.
distinction here is that it was 50 who kept Game from dropped by Dre. So yes, without 50, Game would have been in that big pile of shelved artists that never popped.
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distinction here is that it was 50 who kept Game from being successful. So yes, without 50, Game would have been in that big pile of shelved artists that never popped.
50 didn't keep Game from being successful. I think you misspoke. Yes, Game would have been on the shelf due to Dre. Jimmy Ivonne put Game with 50 to get him off the shelf. Eminem signed 50 and he had a hit shortly thereafter with a song that Dre didn't produce. I'm still not sure why Dre gets all of the credit for all of this from you or why you're so offended that these facts are pointed out. Wack100 said it, Game has said it and JT has said it.
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and it was only a hit after he signed
#thatdrestimulus
Wrong. Wanksta was released in 02 after he dropped Guess Who's Back? which was popping on the streets due to him going at Jigga with "Be A Gentleman", dry snitching on "Ghetto Quaran", the Nas co-sign, people wondering who Banks was as he was spitting heat for an unknown etc.. and generally coming off a very real/bout it in the lyrics plus he was skilled with the pen and people knew his name from How To Rob which was a smash before he got shot/dropped. The cuts were all over mixtapes back in late 01/early 02 and thats what got him his deal with Em. How else you think he heard about it? Pure street buzz. GWB actually hit the billboard charts. An independent mixtape. Back then. With no advertising budget.
No Mercy, No Fear was up next and that featured Wanksta, Banks Victory, Till I Collapse and various compiled freestyles from the Clue, Doo Wop, Flex etc appearances from between Guess Who's Back dropping and the deal. Because Wanksta smashed it was repurposed onto the soundtrack for 8 Mile as an introduction to Shadys newest artist and the rest is history. No promo dollars spent because it was already a hit.
Fifs buzz pre deal is what got him to Shady, his mixtape grind is what kept it and selling headphones/beefing with everyone including Jimmy is what killed his career because Dre never messed with him anyway, he was Em's artist. Just listen to the horrendous mixing/mastering on his album for proof of that and how he always gave him third rate beats everyone else passed on and didn't cook up in the labs specifically for him like he did with Em.
If anything he gave Aftermath the stimulus in terms of profile, sales etc.. by taking the pressure off Em during that era. Dre had nothing to drop and 50 stayed in the press and was shouting out the label everywhere he went.
As for Game he was Bishop Lamont status till he was added to G Unit and Fif gave him those hits from Massacre, showed him how to make hooks and gave him a huge hike in profile due to being associated with the hottest clique at the time via his mixtapes which are still some of Games best and most focused verses to this day. Without the Fif cosign he wouldn't be worth the shoes he was standing in.
Y'all are too much trying to rewrite history.
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I love Game to death, but let's keep it real, he's sayin' this 'cause Kanye been fuckin' with him lately. I'm startin' to feel he gave him that 7 million too though.
What?
Do you think Kanye's gonna give him 7 mil', just like that?!
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Wrong. Wanksta was released in 02 after he dropped Guess Who's Back? which was popping on the streets due to him going at Jigga with "Be A Gentleman", dry snitching on "Ghetto Quaran", the Nas co-sign, people wondering who Banks was as he was spitting heat for an unknown etc.. and generally coming off a very real/bout it in the lyrics plus he was skilled with the pen and people knew his name from How To Rob which was a smash before he got shot/dropped. The cuts were all over mixtapes back in late 01/early 02 and thats what got him his deal with Em. How else you think he heard about it? Pure street buzz. GWB actually hit the billboard charts. An independent mixtape. Back then. With no advertising budget.
No Mercy, No Fear was up next and that featured Wanksta, Banks Victory, Till I Collapse and various compiled freestyles from the Clue, Doo Wop, Flex etc appearances from between Guess Who's Back dropping and the deal. Because Wanksta smashed it was repurposed onto the soundtrack for 8 Mile as an introduction to Shadys newest artist and the rest is history. No promo dollars spent because it was already a hit.
Fifs buzz pre deal is what got him to Shady, his mixtape grind is what kept it and selling headphones/beefing with everyone including Jimmy is what killed his career because Dre never messed with him anyway, he was Em's artist. Just listen to the horrendous mixing/mastering on his album for proof of that and how he always gave him third rate beats everyone else passed on and didn't cook up in the labs specifically for him like he did with Em.
If anything he gave Aftermath the stimulus in terms of profile, sales etc.. by taking the pressure off Em during that era. Dre had nothing to drop and 50 stayed in the press and was shouting out the label everywhere he went.
As for Game he was Bishop Lamont status till he was added to G Unit and Fif gave him those hits from Massacre, showed him how to make hooks and gave him a huge hike in profile due to being associated with the hottest clique at the time via his mixtapes which are still some of Games best and most focused verses to this day. Without the Fif cosign he wouldn't be worth the shoes he was standing in.
Y'all are too much trying to rewrite history.
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50 didn't keep Game from being successful. I think you misspoke. Yes, Game would have been on the shelf due to Dre. Jimmy Ivonne put Game with 50 to get him off the shelf. Eminem signed 50 and he had a hit shortly thereafter with a song that Dre didn't produce. I'm still not sure why Dre gets all of the credit for all of this from you or why you're so offended that these facts are pointed out. Wack100 said it, Game has said it and JT has said it.
what is 50s biggest hit and who produced it?
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Wrong. Wanksta was released in 02 after he dropped Guess Who's Back? which was popping on the streets due to him going at Jigga with "Be A Gentleman", dry snitching on "Ghetto Quaran", the Nas co-sign, people wondering who Banks was as he was spitting heat for an unknown etc.. and generally coming off a very real/bout it in the lyrics plus he was skilled with the pen and people knew his name from How To Rob which was a smash before he got shot/dropped. The cuts were all over mixtapes back in late 01/early 02 and thats what got him his deal with Em. How else you think he heard about it? Pure street buzz. GWB actually hit the billboard charts. An independent mixtape. Back then. With no advertising budget.
No Mercy, No Fear was up next and that featured Wanksta, Banks Victory, Till I Collapse and various compiled freestyles from the Clue, Doo Wop, Flex etc appearances from between Guess Who's Back dropping and the deal. Because Wanksta smashed it was repurposed onto the soundtrack for 8 Mile as an introduction to Shadys newest artist and the rest is history. No promo dollars spent because it was already a hit.
Fifs buzz pre deal is what got him to Shady, his mixtape grind is what kept it and selling headphones/beefing with everyone including Jimmy is what killed his career because Dre never messed with him anyway, he was Em's artist. Just listen to the horrendous mixing/mastering on his album for proof of that and how he always gave him third rate beats everyone else passed on and didn't cook up in the labs specifically for him like he did with Em.
If anything he gave Aftermath the stimulus in terms of profile, sales etc.. by taking the pressure off Em during that era. Dre had nothing to drop and 50 stayed in the press and was shouting out the label everywhere he went.
As for Game he was Bishop Lamont status till he was added to G Unit and Fif gave him those hits from Massacre, showed him how to make hooks and gave him a huge hike in profile due to being associated with the hottest clique at the time via his mixtapes which are still some of Games best and most focused verses to this day. Without the Fif cosign he wouldn't be worth the shoes he was standing in.
Y'all are too much trying to rewrite history.
wanksta didn’t chart til it was put on 8 mile ost
street buzz ≠ superstardom
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wanksta didn’t chart til it was put on 8 mile ost
street buzz ≠ superstardom
No point talking to a groupie like you, is there? Way before the deal 50 was supposed to be on the J Lo remix:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR3xw17OEcQ
Thats how much he was bubbling way before Shady because J Lo was super hot then. Irv made her switch it for Nas and that friction is what led him to Shady and the rest is what it is. Why did they go out of their way to get an unknown, unsigned 50 on that track if Shady made him?
Why do you think 50s debut sold like crazy and was so anticipated? Because of Dre or because of all the crazy buzz he had built by himself? Matter of fact, don't answer that. We all know you roll like this crackhead when it comes to Dre as evidenced by your pause worthy comments on the thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2HmJG21SDI
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No point talking to a groupie like you, is there? Way before the deal 50 was supposed to be on the J Lo remix:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR3xw17OEcQ
Thats how much he was bubbling way before Shady because J Lo was super hot then. Irv made her switch it for Nas and that friction is what led him to Shady and the rest is what it is. Why did they go out of their way to get an unknown, unsigned 50 on that track if Shady made him?
Why do you think 50s debut sold like crazy and was so anticipated? Because of Dre or because of all the crazy buzz he had built by himself? Matter of fact, don't answer that. We all know you roll like this crackhead when it comes to Dre as evidenced by your pause worthy comments on the thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2HmJG21SDI
as usual, you tryin way too hard
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I was just responding to the post that contributes Games success with Dre. I'm using the same logic to show how that's simply not true because there are others who Dre has worked with who haven't been successful.
Yeah, that's true, but I think there's more success stories than failiors if we talk about people who actually managed to put out albums. Most people don't remember rappers like Joe Beast.
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50 didn't keep Game from being successful. I think you misspoke. Yes, Game would have been on the shelf due to Dre. Jimmy Ivonne put Game with 50 to get him off the shelf. Eminem signed 50 and he had a hit shortly thereafter with a song that Dre didn't produce. I'm still not sure why Dre gets all of the credit for all of this from you or why you're so offended that these facts are pointed out. Wack100 said it, Game has said it and JT has said it.
Yeah not sure what happened there. Misspoke - edited
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Wrong. Wanksta was released in 02 after he dropped Guess Who's Back? which was popping on the streets due to him going at Jigga with "Be A Gentleman", dry snitching on "Ghetto Quaran", the Nas co-sign, people wondering who Banks was as he was spitting heat for an unknown etc.. and generally coming off a very real/bout it in the lyrics plus he was skilled with the pen and people knew his name from How To Rob which was a smash before he got shot/dropped. The cuts were all over mixtapes back in late 01/early 02 and thats what got him his deal with Em. How else you think he heard about it? Pure street buzz. GWB actually hit the billboard charts. An independent mixtape. Back then. With no advertising budget.
No Mercy, No Fear was up next and that featured Wanksta, Banks Victory, Till I Collapse and various compiled freestyles from the Clue, Doo Wop, Flex etc appearances from between Guess Who's Back dropping and the deal. Because Wanksta smashed it was repurposed onto the soundtrack for 8 Mile as an introduction to Shadys newest artist and the rest is history. No promo dollars spent because it was already a hit.
Fifs buzz pre deal is what got him to Shady, his mixtape grind is what kept it and selling headphones/beefing with everyone including Jimmy is what killed his career because Dre never messed with him anyway, he was Em's artist. Just listen to the horrendous mixing/mastering on his album for proof of that and how he always gave him third rate beats everyone else passed on and didn't cook up in the labs specifically for him like he did with Em.
If anything he gave Aftermath the stimulus in terms of profile, sales etc.. by taking the pressure off Em during that era. Dre had nothing to drop and 50 stayed in the press and was shouting out the label everywhere he went.
As for Game he was Bishop Lamont status till he was added to G Unit and Fif gave him those hits from Massacre, showed him how to make hooks and gave him a huge hike in profile due to being associated with the hottest clique at the time via his mixtapes which are still some of Games best and most focused verses to this day. Without the Fif cosign he wouldn't be worth the shoes he was standing in.
Y'all are too much trying to rewrite history.
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