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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Don Seer on May 05, 2005, 06:25:56 AM

Title: UK elections today.. how are you voting.. or would you vote for non citizens
Post by: Don Seer on May 05, 2005, 06:25:56 AM
what ya'll voted/voting for then?

my town is the #1 target on the lib dem list..

and surprise surprise i'm voting lib dem... only voting for them since they are the ones that have a chance of beatnig the conservatives.. a labour vote is lost here

the conservatives hold it currently.. but i doubt for much longer.. stupidly the local conservative mp wants to shut down a large govt run place on the edge of town that employs 3000 people.. and probably supoprts more people.. in a place where the difference was a few hundred votes last time.. thats a bad move on his part!

i've seen little evidence of conservatives down here.. i saw a few public schoolboy type (quel surprise) with conservative banners.. but i've seen a lot of lib dem support.. plus the lib dem leader visited on bank holiday monday

last tmie there was a 0.4% margin between the lib dems and conservatives down here..

here are the results from last time..

Conservative  41.7%
Liberal Democrat  41.3%
Labour  14.9%
Others  2.1%



results for my town will be up here later >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/vote2005/html/571.stm
Title: Re: UK elections today.. how are you voting.. or would you vote for non citizens
Post by: Trauma-san on May 05, 2005, 06:40:10 AM
stupidly the local conservative mp wants to shut down a large govt run place on the edge of town that employs 3000 people.. and probably supoprts more people.. in a place where the difference was a few hundred votes last time.. thats a bad move on his part!

It's a stupid move if you're a politician that runs your office based on which way the wind's blowing, and what's popular. 

Perhaps he's an honest politician who feels that the plant needs to be shut down for whatever reasoning he has, and believes it so strongly that he doesn't care if he even gets voted out of office for it.  Closing a business and laying off thousands of people is never popular, but sometimes it needs to be done.


Just chiming in, I don't know shit about it, so take my comments on a whim.  & I'm not just saying it because he's a 'conservative' I realize the parties are different over there than over here. 
Title: Re: UK elections today.. how are you voting.. or would you vote for non citizens
Post by: Don Seer on May 05, 2005, 06:46:12 AM
yeah i get what ya saying.. but unfortunately.. if you want to remain an MP.. in a seat you won by just 300 votes.. you dont piss off 3000+ people on the eve of an election do ya?

i'm not quite sure how our parties line up against the US ones.. i think conversatives = republicans, lib dems = democrats and labour would be unheard of.. these days they're more in the middle but they are traditionally very left wing.. commies  :D
Title: Re: UK elections today.. how are you voting.. or would you vote for non citizens
Post by: Trauma-san on May 05, 2005, 06:54:42 AM
We've got to understand too that he may be getting different info than we are.  He might not think the people are that pissed off about it, or he might be under the impression that he's a landslide to win.  OR, maybe he knows he's losing, ever thought of that?  Maybe he knows he's not going to win re-election, and he's just getting all his shit done before he leaves. 

I was just saying the 'honest politician' thing to be devil's advocate, I'm not sure if there ARE any honest politicians in the world... the only thing politics rewards you with is power, I think that's what motivates most politicians. 
Title: Re: UK elections today.. how are you voting.. or would you vote for non citizens
Post by: Don Rizzle on May 05, 2005, 08:00:47 AM
just about to goto to the polling station to place my vote, here its between conservatives and lib dems, i'm voting conservative because i don't want lib dems taking the seat but i want labour to stay in power.
Title: Re: UK elections today.. how are you voting.. or would you vote for non citizens
Post by: Suga Foot on May 05, 2005, 08:10:14 AM
i'm not a brit but i'd vote for.. conservatives (http://i'm not a brit but i'd vote for.. conservatives)

I'm a Canadian Conservtive so what the hell.
Title: Re: UK elections today.. how are you voting.. or would you vote for non citizens
Post by: Don Seer on May 05, 2005, 08:35:22 AM
just about to goto to the polling station to place my vote, here its between conservatives and lib dems, i'm voting conservative because i don't want lib dems taking the seat but i want labour to stay in power.

so you're in a similar situation to me

if lib dems win the seat.. that keeps labour in power.. ?
if your seat goes conservative labour lose power..   
whats more important.. keepnig labour in or having lib dems instead of conservatives running shit in your area?


round here during my lunch break there was a green party guy driving around with his speakers on his car asking people to vote lib dem here to boot the conservatives..

Title: Re: UK elections today.. how are you voting.. or would you vote for non citizens
Post by: Mindless Minority on May 05, 2005, 08:47:56 AM
I'm fucking my vote off because they are all cunts.
Title: Re: UK elections today.. how are you voting.. or would you vote for non citizens
Post by: Don Seer on May 05, 2005, 08:49:41 AM
lol.. you just gotta do like i do.. and vote against the worst cunts of the lot ;)
Title: Re: UK elections today.. how are you voting.. or would you vote for non citizens
Post by: Don Rizzle on May 05, 2005, 09:03:20 AM
just about to goto to the polling station to place my vote, here its between conservatives and lib dems, i'm voting conservative because i don't want lib dems taking the seat but i want labour to stay in power.

so you're in a similar situation to me

if lib dems win the seat.. that keeps labour in power.. ?
if your seat goes conservative labour lose power..   
whats more important.. keepnig labour in or having lib dems instead of conservatives running shit in your area?


round here during my lunch break there was a green party guy driving around with his speakers on his car asking people to vote lib dem here to boot the conservatives..


the seat is currently conservative, i'm not into tactical voting i'm going to vot for who i'd prefer out of the 2 which is conservatives, labour will win any way but the more power taken away frokm the lib dems the better because they fuck things up.
Title: Re: UK elections today.. how are you voting.. or would you vote for non citizens
Post by: Joachim on May 05, 2005, 10:48:46 AM
I voted Labour, they're the best of a complete bunch of cunts in my opinion. The Tories can fuck right off, cunts.

Title: Re: UK elections today.. how are you voting.. or would you vote for non citizens
Post by: Don Seer on May 05, 2005, 10:54:49 AM

yup.. i voted anti-tory.. as labour have no chance down here

if it'd been all 3 in the running i wouldnt know what to do
Title: Re: UK elections today.. how are you voting.. or would you vote for non citizens
Post by: Don Seer on May 05, 2005, 11:00:58 AM

oh and LOL.. the election bremner, bird & fortune show tonight is called "a bunch of counts"..

(non brits.. its a satirical impressions/sketch show..)
Title: Re: UK elections today.. how are you voting.. or would you vote for non citizens
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on May 05, 2005, 12:25:13 PM
i would vote for the Lib Dems.....spread out party support across the political spectrum.....and have a minority govt in place to punish the lying Labour party
Title: Re: UK elections today.. how are you voting.. or would you vote for non citizens
Post by: Mindless Minority on May 05, 2005, 01:10:12 PM
Can we tone the language down eh lads?

i would vote for the Lib Dems.....spread out party support across the political spectrum.....and have a minority govt in place to punish the lying Labour party

The leaders got ginger hair mate.
Title: Re: UK elections today.. how are you voting.. or would you vote for non citizens
Post by: Suga Foot on May 05, 2005, 01:24:13 PM
I just gotta say I'm REALLY against voting 'against' a party.  If you don't like any of the choices, put a big line or an X through the ballot and hand it in.  It's not a wasted vote, because they count spoiled votes too.
Title: Re: UK elections today.. how are you voting.. or would you vote for non citizens
Post by: Don Seer on May 05, 2005, 01:30:11 PM
^ why? you should stand up against things you dont want!



The polls shut in 30 mins at 10pm.. the BBC exit poll is announced at 10:01pm

Labour are predicted to win, but with a slight loss in majority.

some people are hoping for hung parliament.

I'm hoping the tories (con) also lose seats and that the lib dems gain some...
they're seen as the weeker cousin of the two main parties...
tri-partisan politics could be interesting :)

Title: Re: UK elections today.. how are you voting.. or would you vote for non citizens
Post by: Lincoln on May 05, 2005, 04:21:11 PM
i'm not a brit but i'd vote for.. conservatives (http://i'm not a brit but i'd vote for.. conservatives)

I'm a Canadian Conservtive so what the hell.

Same here.
Title: Re: UK elections today.. how are you voting.. or would you vote for non citizens
Post by: Trauma-san on May 05, 2005, 10:32:21 PM
I just gotta say I'm REALLY against voting 'against' a party.  If you don't like any of the choices, put a big line or an X through the ballot and hand it in.  It's not a wasted vote, because they count spoiled votes too.

In theory, you're right, but in practicality, you're wrong.  Politics is such a dirty polluted art anyways, that it's nearly impossible to really get behind somebody, so all that really leaves is "who do I like the least" and vote for the other guy.  It's all a big game of checkers. 
Title: Re: UK elections today.. how are you voting.. or would you vote for non citizens
Post by: 7even on May 06, 2005, 04:48:28 AM
I'd vote for the strongest cunts that are not tory.. means labour. But only cause they can fuck with the tories not because I like them most. Same with Bush/Kerry and everytime I (would) vote. I vote for the party that can fuck best with the party I dislike most.
Title: Re: UK elections today.. how are you voting.. or would you vote for non citizens
Post by: Suga Foot on May 06, 2005, 08:50:36 AM
I just gotta say I'm REALLY against voting 'against' a party.  If you don't like any of the choices, put a big line or an X through the ballot and hand it in.  It's not a wasted vote, because they count spoiled votes too.

In theory, you're right, but in practicality, you're wrong.  Politics is such a dirty polluted art anyways, that it's nearly impossible to really get behind somebody, so all that really leaves is "who do I like the least" and vote for the other guy.  It's all a big game of checkers. 

I know, I wish it could be that way, but it isn't.  I'm a federal conservative, but I'm really against some of their policies.  So I joined the party, and I'm trying to make a difference within it.  It's all I can do.  But I'll never complain about political things, it's free for anyone to get involved and have a voice in (for the most part).  If I'm allowed to live in a great country, I feel I should give back to it anyway that I can.
Title: Re: UK elections today.. how are you voting.. or would you vote for non citizens
Post by: Noname on May 08, 2005, 10:37:33 AM
i cant believe you guys re-elected bush personal bitch again.
Title: Re: UK elections today.. how are you voting.. or would you vote for non citizens
Post by: Jip on May 08, 2005, 01:42:17 PM
i cant believe you guys re-elected bush personal bitch again.

he runs our country better than anyone else could?

I really dont see how people seriously consider conservatives, not after the last time they were in power.

Those canadians saying "I'd vote conservative because i vote for them in my country", when did the conservatives in your country ever try and unemploy a whole working class and kill you economy which didn't recover until labour came into power.

Conservatives can die of aids
Title: Re: UK elections today.. how are you voting.. or would you vote for non citizens
Post by: Mindless Minority on May 09, 2005, 05:11:33 AM
Those canadians saying "I'd vote conservative because i vote for them in my country", when did the conservatives in your country ever try and unemploy a whole working class and kill you economy which didn't recover until labour came into power.

Good point. My uncle often tells me of how he'd like to take a shit in Thatchers cold dead mouth. I have a lot of family who were affected.
Title: Re: UK elections today.. how are you voting.. or would you vote for non citizens
Post by: Don Seer on May 09, 2005, 06:05:14 AM
that the thing.. the "new" generation of tories were still in school during the 80s..
i remember watching tv and how bad shit was fucked up..

things have improved _a lot_
Title: Re: UK elections today.. how are you voting.. or would you vote for non citizens
Post by: Mindless Minority on May 09, 2005, 07:46:22 AM
Looking back now on the closing of mines it was probably the right decision. It was a dying industry. But the way she went about it was shit like. Miners were hard done by. I blame them jobsworth cunts in Nottingham.
Title: Re: UK elections today.. how are you voting.. or would you vote for non citizens
Post by: eS El Duque on May 09, 2005, 11:14:35 AM
so the labour party won agian?
Title: Re: UK elections today.. how are you voting.. or would you vote for non citizens
Post by: Don Seer on May 09, 2005, 11:37:53 AM
yup. thank god.
Title: Re: UK elections today.. how are you voting.. or would you vote for non citizens
Post by: Jip on May 11, 2005, 07:04:05 AM
tories also racist, u can't limit the number of ppl coming into your country, its a free world afterall
Title: Re: UK elections today.. how are you voting.. or would you vote for non citizens
Post by: Mindless Minority on May 11, 2005, 10:51:06 AM
tories also racist, u can't limit the number of ppl coming into your country, its a free world afterall

The Tories aren't racist you social working, left wing, tree hugging, human rights loving, 'don't put people in prison' shit cunt.