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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: dexter on December 16, 2003, 05:51:57 PM
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Are they?
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They saved Italy from terrorism (Mussolini) during the WWII.
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Well seeing as that the Americans have rendered the definition of terrorists so useless to the point that Im sure somewhere in some definition my Grandmother's pet dog is a terrorist, Im pretty sure theres some sort of terrorist definition that applies to the Americans
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They saved Italy from terrorism (Mussolini) during the WWII.
They were saving their own ass.
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Yeah, we're running around with car bombs blowing up Nuns and holding shootouts at the church of the Nazarene in Bethleham.
Again, the blatent lack of any kind of moral code by some of you people is amazing. You can't tell the difference between good, and evil. Who gives a fuck, with an idiotic mentality like that, you'll never get anywhere anyways, so you're nothing to worry about.
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Yeah, we're running around with car bombs blowing up Nuns and holding shootouts at the church of the Nazarene in Bethleham.
Again, the blatent lack of any kind of moral code by some of you people is amazing. You can't tell the difference between good, and evil. Who gives a fuck, with an idiotic mentality like that, you'll never get anywhere anyways, so you're nothing to worry about.
Trauma, youre killin me. LMFAO. Youre talkin about "idiotic mentality", yet you still the view the world as good vs evil.
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The KKK is labled as terriorist. Also, the CIA trains terriorist, as does the School of Americas, which trains military dictators for Latin America. I'll let you make the call.
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They saved Italy from terrorism (Mussolini) during the WWII.
They were saving their own ass.
From who? Man please talk about shit you know. I'm Italian, i think i know Italian History more than you. They didnt have to help us. Mussolini was already out of control, and our army was the most ridiculous to ever take place in a war! We took years to conquire Greece. And we didnt even do it. They helped us to became a REPUBLIC.
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They saved Italy from terrorism (Mussolini) during the WWII.
They were saving their own ass.
From who? Man please talk about shit you know. I'm Italian, i think i know Italian History more than you. They didnt have to help us. Mussolini was already out of control, and our army was the most ridiculous to ever take place in a war! We took years to conquire Greece. And we didnt even do it. They helped us to became a REPUBLIC.
P.S. Obviously i replied only about Italy, not about the world.
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^^ And I'm glad the people of Italy respect and remember that. Everytime we help liberate a fucking country, they forget and spit on us a few years down the road. Then we have a bunch of fucking ingrates like the lot on this thread, who are mad they were born a foriegner.
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^^ And I'm glad the people of Italy respect and remember that. Everytime we help liberate a fucking country, they forget and spit on us a few years down the road. Then we have a bunch of fucking ingrates like the lot on this thread, who are mad they were born a foriegner.
I'm def glad about it, man. I can agree or disagree with Bush, Clinton, whoever. But i'll always remember that, if now a Mussolini-2 aint the dictator of Italy, it's because of USA helping our patriotic civils against him, and it's because a lot of US young men died to help us. While it was strategically irrilevant to do it (i mean we didnt have army, Etiopia and Somalia won against our army too! Just to immagine how wack we were).
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The Italians seem like respectful people. I appreciate yall helping us out in this war in Iraq.
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Ah... World War II, one of the few wars in history that HAD to be fought. I think World War II was one of the great moments in U.S. and European history, for it changed everything for the better afterwards. And conservative back then didn't want to get involved... lol.
Also, I mentioned the School of the Americas, which trained many dictators, and if you check, many graduate from the school had many priest and nuns kills. Over 8,000 priest I believe.
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They saved Italy from terrorism (Mussolini) during the WWII.
They were saving their own ass.
From who? Man please talk about shit you know. I'm Italian, i think i know Italian History more than you. They didnt have to help us. Mussolini was already out of control, and our army was the most ridiculous to ever take place in a war! We took years to conquire Greece. And we didnt even do it. They helped us to became a REPUBLIC.
Nice to know your Italian but you obviously don't know shit your army was a piece of crap at the time and America had to run through your country and France from N.Africa to get to Germany.
You also forgeting about the Germans that occupied Italy.
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They saved Italy from terrorism (Mussolini) during the WWII.
They were saving their own ass.
From who? Man please talk about shit you know. I'm Italian, i think i know Italian History more than you. They didnt have to help us. Mussolini was already out of control, and our army was the most ridiculous to ever take place in a war! We took years to conquire Greece. And we didnt even do it. They helped us to became a REPUBLIC.
Nice to know your Italian but you obviously don't know shit your army was a piece of crap at the time and America had to run through your country and France from N.Africa to get to Germany.
You also forgeting about the Germans that occupied Italy.
Let me get the shit straight. Germans occupied a small part of Italy, half of the north. The other one was was occupied by Mussolini's Salo Republic. In Italy we had caos. In the rest of Italy we had Mussolini's men fighting against patriots. And in the north we had patriots fighting Germans. But USA went in Italy FROM THE SOUTH, helping us against fascists first (and they didnt have to, since it wasnt an army. It was like a civil rebellion from fascism) and then they continued to save the north from Germany. Obviously everything is done not only to save us, but to have a tactical advantage. But i'm still glad they've helped us against fascism. Not only against Germans. And they didnt make an occupation of our country. Thousands of Americans died to help us became a Republic. Then they went away, the same year. They did it to block Germany? That's possible, yeah. But still they died for us without just bombing the shit outta Italy. Feel me? They didnt just bombed us and Germans, without making a distinction. They did it. And that's appreciated, cause they gave us the chance to obtain freedom from fascism and Germans, and to became a Republic WITH OUR OWN HANDS.
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Didn't the Germans occupy Rome until American troops kicked them out. I saw some video about the Italians patriot fighters...they weren't organized and had few resources they had no chance vs. German/Italian troops.
You can say the American troops died for Italy but if you look at it from a different point of view...they used your country as a battle field for there own protection.
They didn't go there to save the Italians...they went there to save their own soil.
Just like Operation Iraqi Freedom...like any1 cares about Iraqis ;D
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I think World War II was one of the great moments in U.S. and European history, for it changed everything for the better afterwards.
I'm not sure what WW2 did for the rest of the world, but it damn sure sent most of Northern Europe 40 years back in time.
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It's not terrorism if sponsored by the U.S.
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terrorism is easy to define. it's using terror or fear, for a political cause...
now we know a bunch of you guys are afraid of the big bad US....at any moment we can bomb your country back into the stone age and we'll probably have some of your neighboring countries with us when we do it
but how is the war on iraq or afghanistan giving us any political advantage?
afghanistan is a garbage country with really nothing of importance....maybe we can use it for bases for further attacks on muslims .....er i mean terrorists, but that would cost us money to rebuild
iraq has oil....which now every 1st world country is trying to get a hold of...not just america.....
also we're not appointing leaders in either of the places so with an educated and logical response....how are we terrorists? how are we striking fear in these people to get what we want?
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terrorism is easy to define. it's using terror or fear, for a political cause...
now we know a bunch of you guys are afraid of the big bad US....at any moment we can bomb your country back into the stone age and we'll probably have some of your neighboring countries with us when we do it
but how is the war on iraq or afghanistan giving us any political advantage?
afghanistan is a garbage country with really nothing of importance....maybe we can use it for bases for further attacks on muslims .....er i mean terrorists, but that would cost us money to rebuild
iraq has oil....which now every 1st world country is trying to get a hold of...not just america.....
also we're not appointing leaders in either of the places so with an educated and logical response....how are we terrorists? how are we striking fear in these people to get what we want?
1. The U.S. realized the mistake it made when it left Afghanistan without helping after the Cold War. In case you didn't know, the U.S. supplied the Mujahideen and wanted them to fight off the Russians, which the Afghans did. Then after the Russians left, so did the U.S., without any rebuilding,financial,humanitarian efforts. That caused Afghanistan to become a breeding ground for terrorists. The U.S. obviously doesn't like being attacked by terrorists, so it reconstructs the country, and doesn't make the same mistake twice.
2. You are obviously too stupid to connect oil to politics, so I'll do it for you. Oil is owned by large companies, large companies make nice little contributions to politicians in return for favors, such as MISSION OIL in Iraq. Also, guess who was the person who gained most from the oil in the Middle East during the Gulf War brought on by George Bush? HIS SON. Oh my, what a fuckin coincidence.
3. We're not appointing leaders in other countries? LOLOL. That's all we fuckin do. Most recent example: Hamid Karzai in Afghanistan. And guess what... He worked for UNOCAL. Yes, the same company in charge of that pipeline in that country. Another coincidence.
You fuckin morons are clueless. Go educate yourselves.
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terrorism is easy to define. it's using terror or fear, for a political cause...
now we know a bunch of you guys are afraid of the big bad US....at any moment we can bomb your country back into the stone age and we'll probably have some of your neighboring countries with us when we do it
but how is the war on iraq or afghanistan giving us any political advantage?
afghanistan is a garbage country with really nothing of importance....maybe we can use it for bases for further attacks on muslims .....er i mean terrorists, but that would cost us money to rebuild
iraq has oil....which now every 1st world country is trying to get a hold of...not just america.....
also we're not appointing leaders in either of the places so with an educated and logical response....how are we terrorists? how are we striking fear in these people to get what we want?
1. The U.S. realized the mistake it made when it left Afghanistan without helping after the Cold War. In case you didn't know, the U.S. supplied the Mujahideen and wanted them to fight off the Russians, which the Afghans did. Then after the Russians left, so did the U.S., without any rebuilding,financial,humanitarian efforts. That caused Afghanistan to become a breeding ground for terrorists. The U.S. obviously doesn't like being attacked by terrorists, so it reconstructs the country, and doesn't make the same mistake twice.
2. You are obviously too stupid to connect oil to politics, so I'll do it for you. Oil is owned by large companies, large companies make nice little contributions to politicians in return for favors, such as MISSION OIL in Iraq. Also, guess who was the person who gained most from the oil in the Middle East during the Gulf War brought on by George Bush? HIS SON. Oh my, what a fuckin coincidence.
3. We're not appointing leaders in other countries? LOLOL. That's all we fuckin do. Most recent example: Hamid Karzai in Afghanistan. And guess what... He worked for UNOCAL. Yes, the same company in charge of that pipeline in that country. Another coincidence.
You fuckin morons are clueless. Go educate yourselves.
1) so we gave an army weapons to fight another country (like we do with israel) that country then degrades and turns into terrorists years later (unlike israel) how does that make us terrorists fuck face?
2) so oil is run by companies and companies give donations to political leaders for favors....and my point still is...how does that make us terrorists little bitch?
3) and for your last useless point....
http://www.eurasianet.org/departments/insight/articles/eav121001.shtml
the government that is now in afghanistan has appointed him leader and they are all happy about it....so just because he has ties to a pipeline makes him an unreasonable candidate.....maybe you should decide who leads thier country since you're so educated...strike three bitch
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Didn't the Germans occupy Rome until American troops kicked them out. I saw some video about the Italians patriot fighters...they weren't organized and had few resources they had no chance vs. German/Italian troops.
You can say the American troops died for Italy but if you look at it from a different point of view...they used your country as a battle field for there own protection.
They didn't go there to save the Italians...they went there to save their own soil.
Just like Operation Iraqi Freedom...like any1 cares about Iraqis ;D
Man they were civils against army. Sometimes childrens against soldiers. They werent an army. So obviously they had no chance, against German army (lol they had one against Italian army!). But Germany didnt really occupy Rome. I mean italian army occupied the whole Italy first. And that's the most important thing. Then yeah, Germans entered in Rome, but it was been done WITH fascism, with no resistance from our army. Who loved the fact Germany occupied Rome. Cause Rome was free (Mussolini wasnt there). It's a long story.
Anyway..
I'm not saying USA did it for us. I know what you mean. But they did it. They died with us. They didnt just bomb us, but they fought with us. That's enought for me. Maybe (mabye? lol) they have interests in Iraq too, but Iraqi has to respect the fact USA saved them from Saddam. It's the same. Obviously you dont send your guys to die for nothing. But i still appreciate the fact that, no matter why, they saved us from Germans and fascism.
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terrorism is easy to define. it's using terror or fear, for a political cause...
now we know a bunch of you guys are afraid of the big bad US....at any moment we can bomb your country back into the stone age and we'll probably have some of your neighboring countries with us when we do it
but how is the war on iraq or afghanistan giving us any political advantage?
afghanistan is a garbage country with really nothing of importance....maybe we can use it for bases for further attacks on muslims .....er i mean terrorists, but that would cost us money to rebuild
iraq has oil....which now every 1st world country is trying to get a hold of...not just america.....
also we're not appointing leaders in either of the places so with an educated and logical response....how are we terrorists? how are we striking fear in these people to get what we want?
1. The U.S. realized the mistake it made when it left Afghanistan without helping after the Cold War. In case you didn't know, the U.S. supplied the Mujahideen and wanted them to fight off the Russians, which the Afghans did. Then after the Russians left, so did the U.S., without any rebuilding,financial,humanitarian efforts. That caused Afghanistan to become a breeding ground for terrorists. The U.S. obviously doesn't like being attacked by terrorists, so it reconstructs the country, and doesn't make the same mistake twice.
2. You are obviously too stupid to connect oil to politics, so I'll do it for you. Oil is owned by large companies, large companies make nice little contributions to politicians in return for favors, such as MISSION OIL in Iraq. Also, guess who was the person who gained most from the oil in the Middle East during the Gulf War brought on by George Bush? HIS SON. Oh my, what a fuckin coincidence.
3. We're not appointing leaders in other countries? LOLOL. That's all we fuckin do. Most recent example: Hamid Karzai in Afghanistan. And guess what... He worked for UNOCAL. Yes, the same company in charge of that pipeline in that country. Another coincidence.
You fuckin morons are clueless. Go educate yourselves.
1) so we gave an army weapons to fight another country (like we do with israel) that country then degrades and turns into terrorists years later (unlike israel) how does that make us terrorists fuck face?
2) so oil is run by companies and companies give donations to political leaders for favors....and my point still is...how does that make us terrorists little bitch?
3) and for your last useless point....
http://www.eurasianet.org/departments/insight/articles/eav121001.shtml
the government that is now in afghanistan has appointed him leader and they are all happy about it....so just because he has ties to a pipeline makes him an unreasonable candidate.....maybe you should decide who leads thier country since you're so educated...strike three bitch
1. We supported Saddam until he nationalized the oil fields. He didn't change any of his ways. He always killed innocents before that, but we turned our head because we got oil. Strike 1 BITCH.
2. You said yourself that terrorism is induced by a political motive, and you just admitted that oil companies have ties to POLITICIANS. If you can't decypher that sentence then I don't know what to tell you because quite frankly I can't draw a diagram for you here. Strike 2 SINCE YOU PROVED ME RIGHT.
3. The government that is now in Afghanistan? How did that government come about? Hamid Karzai worked for the U.S. government for ages. They told him to get his ass over there, and made sure he was a "temporary" leader. On your comment about I should decide who leads THEIR country... I am part of that THEIR. And quite frankly as an Afghan I would know a hell of a lot more about what goes on there. Strike 3 BITCH. Now learn your place and get off these nuts cuz you've been sonned. :-*
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terrorism is easy to define. it's using terror or fear, for a political cause...
now we know a bunch of you guys are afraid of the big bad US....at any moment we can bomb your country back into the stone age and we'll probably have some of your neighboring countries with us when we do it
but how is the war on iraq or afghanistan giving us any political advantage?
afghanistan is a garbage country with really nothing of importance....maybe we can use it for bases for further attacks on muslims .....er i mean terrorists, but that would cost us money to rebuild
iraq has oil....which now every 1st world country is trying to get a hold of...not just america.....
also we're not appointing leaders in either of the places so with an educated and logical response....how are we terrorists? how are we striking fear in these people to get what we want?
1. The U.S. realized the mistake it made when it left Afghanistan without helping after the Cold War. In case you didn't know, the U.S. supplied the Mujahideen and wanted them to fight off the Russians, which the Afghans did. Then after the Russians left, so did the U.S., without any rebuilding,financial,humanitarian efforts. That caused Afghanistan to become a breeding ground for terrorists. The U.S. obviously doesn't like being attacked by terrorists, so it reconstructs the country, and doesn't make the same mistake twice.
2. You are obviously too stupid to connect oil to politics, so I'll do it for you. Oil is owned by large companies, large companies make nice little contributions to politicians in return for favors, such as MISSION OIL in Iraq. Also, guess who was the person who gained most from the oil in the Middle East during the Gulf War brought on by George Bush? HIS SON. Oh my, what a fuckin coincidence.
3. We're not appointing leaders in other countries? LOLOL. That's all we fuckin do. Most recent example: Hamid Karzai in Afghanistan. And guess what... He worked for UNOCAL. Yes, the same company in charge of that pipeline in that country. Another coincidence.
You fuckin morons are clueless. Go educate yourselves.
1) so we gave an army weapons to fight another country (like we do with israel) that country then degrades and turns into terrorists years later (unlike israel) how does that make us terrorists fuck face?
2) so oil is run by companies and companies give donations to political leaders for favors....and my point still is...how does that make us terrorists little bitch?
3) and for your last useless point....
http://www.eurasianet.org/departments/insight/articles/eav121001.shtml
the government that is now in afghanistan has appointed him leader and they are all happy about it....so just because he has ties to a pipeline makes him an unreasonable candidate.....maybe you should decide who leads thier country since you're so educated...strike three bitch
1. We supported Saddam until he nationalized the oil fields. He didn't change any of his ways. He always killed innocents before that, but we turned our head because we got oil. Strike 1 BITCH.
2. You said yourself that terrorism is induced by a political motive, and you just admitted that oil companies have ties to POLITICIANS. If you can't decypher that sentence then I don't know what to tell you because quite frankly I can't draw a diagram for you here. Strike 2 SINCE YOU PROVED ME RIGHT.
3. The government that is now in Afghanistan? How did that government come about? Hamid Karzai worked for the U.S. government for ages. They told him to get his ass over there, and made sure he was a "temporary" leader. On your comment about I should decide who leads THEIR country... I am part of that THEIR. And quite frankly as an Afghan I would know a hell of a lot more about what goes on there. Strike 3 BITCH. Now learn your place and get off these nuts cuz you've been sonned. :-*
1)sadaam isn't american so how is america a terrorist country is the question....you still going to dance around that you dumb little bitch? STRIKE 1
2) thanks for making it clear....so you're saying the oil companies are the ones fueling the polititions.....so wouldn't it be the oil companies that are the terrorists? plus these same oil companies that you're talking about, makes deals with dozens of other nations....question still is....how is america the terrorists you foolish little bitch? striek 2
and lastly 3) since you know what is best for your country and all your countries leaders are idiots cause they appointed someone that has US ties who they also believe will be patriotic to what afghan wants and be fair to all the factions in afghanistan (hmmm patriotic to afghanistan and fair to afghanistan people...thought that was a good thing for a leader of a country) why don't you step up and run for office you dumb ass bitch? oh and how does that make the us terrorist? strike 3...don't use my little words you unimaginitive little pubic hair
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1. I'll break it down for you since you seem to have a very low intelligence level. We helped bring Saddam to power. We gave him weapons, which he used to kill his own people. We knew about it but didnt care because he gave us oil. He nationalized the oil fields and all of a sudden we tell people that he is a cruel leader. We want the oil so we use his cruelty as an excuse TO BOMB IRAQ KILLING INNOCENT CIVILIANS. <<Terrorism
2. Oil companies aren't the ones bombing the nation. The U.S. government is. So you claim that the oil companies are terrorists because according to you they are carrying out the bombings. Since they're not carrying out the attacks, whoever is, must be a terrorist. Thanks for proving to me that the U.S. government is carrying out terrorism. Also, the oil companies AID the government in killing. Just in the same way that we aided Saddam in killing others. In the latter, Saddam was the EVIL one. So in the same equation with the oil company and the government, the government would be the EVIL.
3. The country's leaders didn't appoint him. I would have to get into great detail to explain to you what went on, and why it did, but even then you wouldn't be able to grasp the idea. Point short, Karzai was placed in power by the U.S. Even now, with the new "election", the U.S. says "Karzai must remain in power for the benefit of Afghanistan". I'm not disagreeing with that or agreeing. However, the point here is that you made the stupid statement about the U.S. not helping others come to power in other countries.
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1. I'll break it down for you since you seem to have a very low intelligence level. We helped bring Saddam to power. We gave him weapons, which he used to kill his own people. We knew about it but didnt care because he gave us oil. He nationalized the oil fields and all of a sudden we tell people that he is a cruel leader. We want the oil so we use his cruelty as an excuse TO BOMB IRAQ KILLING INNOCENT CIVILIANS. <<Terrorism
2. Oil companies aren't the ones bombing the nation. The U.S. government is. So you claim that the oil companies are terrorists because according to you they are carrying out the bombings. Since they're not carrying out the attacks, whoever is, must be a terrorist. Thanks for proving to me that the U.S. government is carrying out terrorism. Also, the oil companies AID the government in killing. Just in the same way that we aided Saddam in killing others. In the latter, Saddam was the EVIL one. So in the same equation with the oil company and the government, the government would be the EVIL.
3. The country's leaders didn't appoint him. I would have to get into great detail to explain to you what went on, and why it did, but even then you wouldn't be able to grasp the idea. Point short, Karzai was placed in power by the U.S. Even now, with the new "election", the U.S. says "Karzai must remain in power for the benefit of Afghanistan". I'm not disagreeing with that or agreeing. However, the point here is that you made the stupid statement about the U.S. not helping others come to power in other countries.
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you have to be the slowest person on this board....
i'm gonna type slow cause i know you don't read and comprehend too good...
1) HOW THE FUCK IS SADAAM KILLING HIS OWN PEOPLE AN ACT OF TERRORISM MADE BY THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT? WHAT KIND OF POLITICAL BONUS ARE WE GETTING WHEN THEY LIVE IN FEAR OF SADAAM AND THEY DO THE THINGS THAT SADAAM TELLS THEM TO DO? we gave him weapons... we didn't say...here you go..kill your own people and make them live in fear of the united states... you're a fucking dumbass
2) once again for the reading impared...these oils companies that make the world spin and have secret coucil meetings on how to rule the world by thier pawn pieces called "leaders of nations" are making trades with every country....i'll say that a few more times EVERY COUNTRY, EVERY COUNTRY, EVERY COUNTRY....so if they are funding one terrorist country...that makes themselves terrorists (just like if i funded a bank heist i'd be an accomplice to the bank robber) in turn every country that deals with them are terrorists because they are being supplied by them.....so they way you have your point....every country is run by terrorists since oil companies control all the leaders
BUT since these oil companies are giving thier money FREELY to these political leaders....how is that terrorism? because they are not being forced by acts of violence to give that money to them.....
3) afghan likes the leader, he is patriotic, he will be fair to the people in afghanistan, he isn't the head of one of these "world conspirating" oil companies...and once again afghan isn't living in fear and wasn't violently forced to except him as a leader, so quit your bitching...stop typing and dive your dick hand a rest.....with all that foolish nonsense you've typed, you have not proved that america is a terrorist country....i'll start a thread on something you can actually win like "why is the sky always checkered in flouresant colors"....then maybe you can prove me wrong
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i'm gonna type slow cause i know you don't read and comprehend too good...
1. You missed the whole point of my argument. I didn't say the U.S. was terrorist because it supported Saddam; it's terrorist because of what it did to Iraq. Gulf War my friend.
2. There's a difference when the president's friends are involved. I didn't say oil companies are terrorists, you did. I said the U.S. government was for bombing innocent civilians FOR the oil companies.
3. Did you read the part where I said that I don't agree or disagree with him being a good leader. Whatever is best for the Afghan people living in Afghanistan, and if he is it, then let him be. However, the U.S. helped bring him to power. That is the only point I tried and have proven. By the way, HE WORKED FOR UNOCAL. THE SAME COMPANY IN CHARGE OF THAT PIPELINE BEING RUN DOWN AFGHANISTAN.
You said you were gonna type slow. How does the speed at which you type change anything. You know all the letters still are the same distance apart, and you typing slow doesn't mean the words show up slower on my computer. Talk about being slow in the head. It's ok, we all have our blonde moments. Thanks for the good laugh. Pretty ironic.
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i'm gonna type slow cause i know you don't read and comprehend too good...
1. You missed the whole point of my argument. I didn't say the U.S. was terrorist because it supported Saddam; it's terrorist because of what it did to Iraq. Gulf War my friend.
2. There's a difference when the president's friends are involved. I didn't say oil companies are terrorists, you did. I said the U.S. government was for bombing innocent civilians FOR the oil companies.
3. Did you read the part where I said that I don't agree or disagree with him being a good leader. Whatever is best for the Afghan people living in Afghanistan, and if he is it, then let him be. However, the U.S. helped bring him to power. That is the only point I tried and have proven. By the way, HE WORKED FOR UNOCAL. THE SAME COMPANY IN CHARGE OF THAT PIPELINE BEING RUN DOWN AFGHANISTAN.
You said you were gonna type slow. How does the speed at which you type change anything. You know all the letters still are the same distance apart, and you typing slow doesn't mean the words show up slower on my computer. Talk about being slow in the head. It's ok, we all have our blonde moments. Thanks for the good laugh. Pretty ironic.
lol you think i meant that? it was a joke and i'm glad you're bright enough to get it...
1) we helped liberate kuwait in which iraq over run for no reason but to further his own pockets (and yes we did happen to further our own pockets too) still not terrorist act...
2) yes we may just be fighting for oil but we're not influencing these companies politically or are we using fear to get these companies on our side
3) you agree this one doesn't mean america is terrorist either so we don't have to argue anymore on this fact...
i'm glad this debate got more civilized and quit with the name calling, but anyone has yet to prove this is a terrorist act
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1. Do you know anything about what happened with Kuwait? OPEC agreed on a certain price that oil would be sold for. Under American pressure Kuwait lowered its price to the U.S. Saddam got angry because his country needed the money due to the war with Iran he just finished fighting. He invaded Kuwait, YES. But, the U.S. stated before he did , that the U.S. would not intervene. It was a trap. We used that as an excuse to not only invade Iraq, but also establish bases in Saudi Arabia because we convinced the Saudis that Saddam was planning to attack them next and told them he had soldiers lined up at the border (that was a complete lie because satellite photos proved there weren't, but thats another story) When we attacked Iraq, we killed hundreds of thousands of civilians. We didn't just carefully bomb military facilities, we bombed entire towns. How is that not terrorism? If killing 4000 innocents with a plane crashing into a tower is terrorism, then clearly carpet bombing entire cities is also. I could also get into what happened in Vietnam to prove that U.S. carried out terrorist acts. Agent Orange? In fact, the U.S. terrorist acts go way back to colonial times. The U.S. used the FIRST biologic warfare (blankets infested with diseases to kill Indians). TERRORISM.
2. No, the government isn't influencing the oil companies. It's actually the other way around. Let me create an analogy. If someone gives you money to kill another person, and you do it. Who committed the crime... you or the person giving you the money?
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a-b-c, 1-2-3, baby you and MEEE!
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1. Do you know anything about what happened with Kuwait? OPEC agreed on a certain price that oil would be sold for. Under American pressure Kuwait lowered its price to the U.S. Saddam got angry because his country needed the money due to the war with Iran he just finished fighting. He invaded Kuwait, YES. But, the U.S. stated before he did , that the U.S. would not intervene. It was a trap. We used that as an excuse to not only invade Iraq, but also establish bases in Saudi Arabia because we convinced the Saudis that Saddam was planning to attack them next and told them he had soldiers lined up at the border (that was a complete lie because satellite photos proved there weren't, but thats another story) When we attacked Iraq, we killed hundreds of thousands of civilians. We didn't just carefully bomb military facilities, we bombed entire towns. How is that not terrorism? If killing 4000 innocents with a plane crashing into a tower is terrorism, then clearly carpet bombing entire cities is also. I could also get into what happened in Vietnam to prove that U.S. carried out terrorist acts. Agent Orange? In fact, the U.S. terrorist acts go way back to colonial times. The U.S. used the FIRST biologic warfare (blankets infested with diseases to kill Indians). TERRORISM.
2. No, the government isn't influencing the oil companies. It's actually the other way around. Let me create an analogy. If someone gives you money to kill another person, and you do it. Who committed the crime... you or the person giving you the money?
here you go with your conspiracy theories again i'll define terrorism once again....an act of terror or fear for political gain...
oil is not a political gain.....it's economic...the US can't say "we own 4 more oil companies than you so you have to do what we say" plus the killing of innocent people was during a time of war....we didn't just bomb iraqis for the fun of it....and contrary to what many believe but....dum dum dum....innocent people do die during war
and 2)...if the oil companies influence the leaders like you're saying, they are the masterminds and they are the leaders of this so called terrorism so actually i have little terrorist cells all around my neighborhood, called gas stations
for final proof that america isnt terrorists...yes we did fuck up iraq and now we are rebuilding it.....stupid or not..since when has al qaeda fixed a ship they bombed, or helped build an embassy or the club they blew up? they don't because if they helped rebuild....it woulod eliminate the TERROR....they would be called something else like helperists....people who help rebuild shit for political gain
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a-b-c, 1-2-3, baby you and MEEE!
Man, it's blaspheme to mention a legend around this kid. You should take that back. LOL
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Are they?
How are they not?
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Yeah, we're running around with car bombs blowing up Nuns and holding shootouts at the church of the Nazarene in Bethleham.
Again, the blatent lack of any kind of moral code by some of you people is amazing. You can't tell the difference between good, and evil. Who gives a fuck, with an idiotic mentality like that, you'll never get anywhere anyways, so you're nothing to worry about.
Just cause America has so-called "smart bombs" and "shock and awe" campaigns... and Iraqi's have car bombs... it doesn't make Iraqi's terrorists and Americans hero's.
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Are they?
How are they not?
one simple answer. we do not fit the definition of terroism. it's as simple as that...
let's make a thread where we try and say a donkey is a reptile and twist the definition of reptile so that a donkey will fit
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Terrorism= Killing people for a political motive
^ Its that simple
war on terrorism= elimination of anti US spheres of influence in middle east/strengthen israel= political motive
launching a war against an impoverished third world country= killing people
very simple smerlus, i doubt ud get it though, paradox explained it enough to you,
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dont we all have a lil terroist in us HAPPY KWANZA
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Terrorism= Killing people for a political motive
^ Its that simple
war on terrorism= elimination of anti US spheres of influence in middle east/strengthen israel= political motive
launching a war against an impoverished third world country= killing people
very simple smerlus, i doubt ud get it though, paradox explained it enough to you,
i'm glad you can make up you own definitions for words....you may look like webster...but you're thinking of the wrong person...
ter·ror·ism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (tr-rzm)
n.
The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.
so where is this war unlawful? just because the UN didn't agree with it doesn't make it unlawful
let's take a look at those two countries we've attacked so far
iraq - ruled by a genocidal dictator
afghanistan - home to numerous terrorists and thier training camps
but sadaam and al qaeda are the true victims cause they are just innocent muslims...they come from poor countries so no matter who they attack, they should not be retaliated against cause they are poor...america wants to take over the whole middle east and then we'll give it all to israel....
you're a fucking moron, you stupid people make up your own definitions of what terrorism is so that the US can neatly fit into it...why is it that only you bitches on this website are claiming that we're terrorists and your governments do nothing?
either cause a) we're not terrorists OR
b) your countries leaders are also bitches and don't want to fuck with us
either way...all this moaning about your pussies hurting and how bad the united states is sin't going to solve anything
so keep listening to our music, watching our movies and keep trying to be like us and live like us
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Terrorism= Killing people for a political motive
^ Its that simple
war on terrorism= elimination of anti US spheres of influence in middle east/strengthen israel= political motive
launching a war against an impoverished third world country= killing people
very simple smerlus, i doubt ud get it though, paradox explained it enough to you,
you do relize that osama tightened the vice grip on the middle east from america when he sent those two planes into the WTC.....you do relize thier wouldn't even be a US led war in the mid east if 9-11 didn't happen.
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Terrorism= Killing people for a political motive
^ Its that simple
war on terrorism= elimination of anti US spheres of influence in middle east/strengthen israel= political motive
launching a war against an impoverished third world country= killing people
very simple smerlus, i doubt ud get it though, paradox explained it enough to you,
you do relize that osama tightened the vice grip on the middle east from america when he sent those two planes into the WTC.....you do relize thier wouldn't even be a US led war in the mid east if 9-11 didn't happen.
exactly....props....you pro muslim people think that we're just attacking muslims for the fun of it....you don't see us attacking saudi arabia because it has a stable government and doesn't train terrorists...the US doesn't attack countries for the hell of it, we have reasons and whether you agree to them or not is up to you but still it's not unlawful so therefore we're not terrorists...you should try and make something else up
like bush is also genocidal because US soldiers are dying in iraq...