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Title: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: Desert Lord on January 13, 2024, 09:24:27 AM
Snoop Dogg's best period, musically in my opinion, was from 1999-2004. While the Death Row days are generally considered his prime, undeniably producing most of his classics, I believe even better music came out during the Dogg House era.

The lineup in this camp and its extended circle was so dope! Eastsidaz, Kokane, RBX, Soopafly, Daz, Kurupt, Suga Free, Nate Dogg, Bad Azz, etc. Excellent producers like Battlecat, Fredwreck, Meech Wells, Dre, Warren G.

And just think about the incredible albums released during that time: 2001, Top Dogg, Last Meal, Doggystyle Allstars, 213 the hard way, the two Eastsidaz albums, the Bones soundtrack... Did I forget anything? 🤔

Of course, it might be because, as a late '80s baby, I was consciously aware of this period and bought some of this albums when they came out,unlike the Death Row era when I was still a child. That's how I perceive it. Can anyone relate to this? 😆
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: doggfather on January 13, 2024, 09:29:03 AM
Welcome to the... mixtape series!
The wash ost.

Doggystyle records releases: bad azz, doggys angels
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on January 13, 2024, 11:28:23 AM
It's because of the West resurgence era that this forum was even started.  There are very few cats like me and HigheyeCue that were even old enough to be fuckin bitchez at the time that Chronic and Doggystyle came out.  So for cats like me and HIgheyecue that lived the East/West beef, Pac getting killed--and remember the moment when Doggystyle dropped, nothing will top that era.

...that said, the West resurgence era was phenomenal.  It was like the second coming.  I mean, even Xzibit was around for 96', so even though it seemed like he was new on the scene, for him it was even like a second life to his career.

Tray Dee of the Eastsidaz, it was his second life in his rap career.

It's was the stars aligning of Eminem linking with Dre to catapult Dre back into the limelight and Xzibit and Eastsidaz injecting life into Snoop, and then he left New Orleans and started linking back with his homiez on the West and making great music again, rest is history.

It's hard to think of too many that were making their first run in that era.  Obviously there is guys like Knocturnal and what not,

but anyway, yeah... that ERA fuckin made the Dubcc, starting from WestCoastKillaz, to Dre's official page, and so on...

but a muthafucka like TraceOneInfinite to tha Flat Earth Dome, I was around on this shit before the West Coast Resurgence I was on Snoopsdogghouse.com in 98', Eminem's official, and Eminem bodyrott in 99, you speakin to a true O.G. with stripes in the game!!!!!
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: Desert Lord on January 13, 2024, 01:18:54 PM
Welcome to the... mixtape series!
The wash ost.

Doggystyle records releases: bad azz, doggys angels

Right! The "Welcome to the Chuuch" series was also dope as shit. "The Wash" as well.
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on January 13, 2024, 01:21:57 PM
"My Heat Goes Boom" was one of his most slept-on bangers in the period
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: Desert Lord on January 13, 2024, 01:23:54 PM
It's because of the West resurgence era that this forum was even started.  There are very few cats like me and HigheyeCue that were even old enough to be fuckin bitchez at the time that Chronic and Doggystyle came out.  So for cats like me and HIgheyecue that lived the East/West beef, Pac getting killed--and remember the moment when Doggystyle dropped, nothing will top that era.

...that said, the West resurgence era was phenomenal.  It was like the second coming.  I mean, even Xzibit was around for 96', so even though it seemed like he was new on the scene, for him it was even like a second life to his career.

Tray Dee of the Eastsidaz, it was his second life in his rap career.

It's was the stars aligning of Eminem linking with Dre to catapult Dre back into the limelight and Xzibit and Eastsidaz injecting life into Snoop, and then he left New Orleans and started linking back with his homiez on the West and making great music again, rest is history.

It's hard to think of too many that were making their first run in that era.  Obviously there is guys like Knocturnal and what not,

but anyway, yeah... that ERA fuckin made the Dubcc, starting from WestCoastKillaz, to Dre's official page, and so on...

but a muthafucka like TraceOneInfinite to tha Flat Earth Dome, I was around on this shit before the West Coast Resurgence I was on Snoopsdogghouse.com in 98', Eminem's official, and Eminem bodyrott in 99, you speakin to a true O.G. with stripes in the game!!!!!

Alright Big true O.G. You definetly longer here than i am. I started posting in the mid 2000s or something like that.
Anyways I was specifically talking about Snoop and his camp, but you're right: there was a lot of good stuff overall during that time. The Eminem and Xzibit albums were definitely classics.
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: HighEyeCue on January 13, 2024, 11:57:12 PM
Snoop basically brought the West back in '99 with Xzibit on Bitch Please

I thought after Last Meal he fell off a little though, Paid Tha Cost and R&G had some joints but weren't great albums at least imo



Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: Sccit on January 14, 2024, 01:32:02 PM
^ 100% .. his career was on a downward trajectory after he dropped tha last meal
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: phatj on January 14, 2024, 06:59:35 PM
Snoop caught his second wind with Dogg House/Doggystyle records. Artists & producers were putting out 🔥, but unfortunately Snoop still was unable to put out a classic solo album during that era.
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: doggfather on January 14, 2024, 09:17:23 PM
^ 100% .. his career was on a downward trajectory after he dropped tha last meal


Sorry man, but what a Stan attitude is this?!

He released 2 platinum and 2 gold after that last meal. As a solo artist. Gold with 213 and gold with wiz khalifa.

Get awards.

Got a bunch of films.

Critically aclaimed mixtape series (thats my work)

Where is that downward?!?!


You(neither i am) aint feel it, like it, but sayin he aint success or his career went down simply aint true.
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: Death Row Knightmare on January 14, 2024, 11:30:46 PM
Snoop Dogg from 1998 - 2004 is legendary. To say he fell off after Doggystyle, you can't take it seriously. Snoop's production quality on dropped after Blue Carpet Treatment was out. Meaning Ego Trippin' and the rest - the sequencing and certain songs don't fit the vibe of the album's singles. Other than that, lyrically, Snoop has never left.
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: doggfather on January 14, 2024, 11:37:13 PM
what fell off?!?!


doggystyle is unique. the ultimate rap album of all time. no question.

BUT after that 6 M sold.

his albums went 2 M each!

2 M in the 90s!

murder wa the case, doggfather, da game is, no limit, last meal all went 2M os near 2M!

so, u sayin he fell of when he sold 10 M records?!?!


I really want fell of like that!
That was really good numbers!


Even nowdays are good numbers!

Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: Sccit on January 15, 2024, 12:05:33 AM

Sorry man, but what a Stan attitude is this?!

He released 2 platinum and 2 gold after that last meal. As a solo artist. Gold with 213 and gold with wiz khalifa.

Get awards.

Got a bunch of films.

Critically aclaimed mixtape series (thats my work)

Where is that downward?!?!


You(neither i am) aint feel it, like it, but sayin he aint success or his career went down simply aint true.


i’m talking from a quality perspective


LOL


how well you do on the charts doesnt always have a bearing on how good the music is


but even from a sales perspective, tha least meal is his last album to go double plat.. so yea, that’s what a downward trajectory means brother
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: doggfather on January 15, 2024, 01:11:12 AM
well, quality...


after no limits beats by the pound i think neptunes is moving forward, not backward.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: Sccit on January 15, 2024, 04:03:14 AM
well, quality...


after no limits beats by the pound i think neptunes is moving forward, not backward.  ;) ;)


top dogg and tha last meal were produced by dre so i’m not sure what u talkin bout LOL
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: doggfather on January 15, 2024, 04:26:46 AM
you said Snoops career was on downward trajectory


I aint think this. IMO his (career) got waves. better and worse, time after time.

not just a line from top to bottom (what downward trajectory means to me).

ego trippin and malice were down, but doggumentary and neva left, i wana thank were good again. his last 2 albums were bad (to me) again.


and as an artist i respect he aint stuck in the 90s. he tryin different things. This is another thing to me as opposite to downward trajectory.

things i like (7 days of funk) things i aint like (reincarnated). Things that fits to me (thats my work mixtape series), things that NOT my things (bible of love)


+ As career. If he ain that good in music he got books, films, shows etc...

These are different part of a career not a downward trajectory.
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: Sccit on January 15, 2024, 09:14:51 AM
that’s your opinion .. in my opinion he had some great albums after tha last meal, but none quite as good nor as successful

but to each his own
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: phatj on January 15, 2024, 10:19:44 AM
Dogg father album is where quality music and Snoop left each other. Snoop came close to a full quality album with tha last meal, yet he still missed. A couple good jams with nothing but filler throw away songs on all his albums. Without Doggystyle Snoop would be just an average rapper!
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: phatj on January 15, 2024, 02:43:15 PM
Actually the best era for Snoop was 92-95. 3 years of flawless delivery & flow! Commercial gangsta rap at it's finest
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: Desert Lord on January 15, 2024, 03:13:59 PM
Well, I explicitly spoke about the quality. Chart placements really don't interest me. Some of my favorite albums by Snoop were considered flops. For instance, Snoop mentioned that the 213 album didn't get much love, but I find the record truly flawless from start to finish.

Regarding classic albums, in my opinion, 'Tha Last Meal' is a classic. 'Paid the Cost' was good, although I celebrated the Advance Version even more. 'R & G' felt a bit light on the 'G' when it was released, but musically, it was really well done. In hindsight, it was a very good album, even though Snoop had less gangsta content.

After that, there was a long dry spell, and the next albums weren't particularly good - except for BCT with many genuinely good songs - even though there were occasional good tracks, during this time, he leaned too much towards the mainstream and, in general, focused less on his music. I believe hee hardly writes much himself now, which I find unfortunate.

In my opinion, the recent albums have been better, and with the resurgence of newerr  West Coast rappers, he has probably leaned more towards the new West Coast sound again. By the way, I'm sure it would be a real upgrade for his records if he started writing or freestyling again. That's when he sounds his best, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: phatj on January 15, 2024, 03:23:16 PM
I have never determined 📉 sells to have any impact on the quality of the music. Obviously it's an opinion of each individuals liking.
Well, I explicitly spoke about the quality. Chart placements really don't interest me. Some of my favorite albums by Snoop were considered flops. For instance, Snoop mentioned that the 213 album didn't get much love, but I find the record truly flawless from start to finish.

Regarding classic albums, in my opinion, 'Tha Last Meal' is a classic. 'Paid the Cost' was good, although I celebrated the Advance Version even more. 'R & G' felt a bit light on the 'G' when it was released, but musically, it was really well done. In hindsight, it was a very good album, even though Snoop had less gangsta content.

After that, there was a long dry spell, and the next albums weren't particularly good - except for BCT with many genuinely good songs - even though there were occasional good tracks, during this time, he leaned too much towards the mainstream and, in general, focused less on his music. I believe hee hardly writes much himself now, which I find unfortunate.

In my opinion, the recent albums have been better, and with the resurgence of newerr  West Coast rappers, he has probably leaned more towards the new West Coast sound again. By the way, I'm sure it would be a real upgrade for his records if he started writing or freestyling again. That's when he sounds his best, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: Desert Lord on January 15, 2024, 03:47:45 PM
I have never determined 📉 sells to have any impact on the quality of the music. Obviously it's an opinion of each individuals liking.

True. I was generally referring to the discussion about album sales that was touched upon here
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: Sccit on January 15, 2024, 11:15:03 PM
Dogg father album is where quality music and Snoop left each other. Snoop came close to a full quality album with tha last meal, yet he still missed. A couple good jams with nothing but filler throw away songs on all his albums. Without Doggystyle Snoop would be just an average rapper!


doggfather and last meal both near classix
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: phatj on January 16, 2024, 11:07:15 AM

I disagree. Dogg father was straight trash prior to that album Snoop brought that gangsta aggressive style and flow. As for tha last meal it had 9 solid jams and 10 filler songs.


doggfather and last meal both near classix
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: HighEyeCue on January 16, 2024, 02:51:31 PM
I disagree. Dogg father was straight trash prior to that album Snoop brought that gangsta aggressive style and flow. As for tha last meal it had 9 solid jams and 10 filler songs.

for me the only filler tracks on Tha Last Meal were the Master P one and the Jelly Roll production “I can’t swim”





Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: phatj on January 16, 2024, 03:08:18 PM
That's what's up, fillers to me
Set it off
Bring it on
Game court
Ready 2 ryde
Loosen control
I can't swim
Leave me alone
Back up off me

Songs to me that are not fillers that would have made it classic to me

Blaze it up
Hot pursuit
Inside of you
Pop ya collar
No bacctraccin
Sunshine ( it's you I sore )
When I wake up
Purple
for me the only filler tracks on Tha Last Meal were the Master P one and the Jelly Roll production “I can’t swim”
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: doggfather on January 16, 2024, 10:05:35 PM
To me tha last meal is a perfect duo album from Snoop and kokane.

Change my mind.  ;)
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: phatj on January 17, 2024, 07:17:43 PM
Why would anybody waste time attempting
to change your mind/opinion? What you think is jammin, the next man might think it's straight trash & vice versa. That's what's up if you feel it's a duo album
To me tha last meal is a perfect duo album from Snoop and kokane.

Change my mind.  ;)
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: doggfather on January 17, 2024, 11:25:39 PM
chenge my mind is a term in social media when i nkow u cant.  ;)
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: Desert Lord on January 18, 2024, 05:22:27 AM
There are no songs on TLM that I don't like. Not all of them are equally intense, but I can enjoy it from start to finish.
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: phatj on January 18, 2024, 08:00:11 PM
It's all good y'all like tha last meal alot that's what's up.
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: Sccit on January 18, 2024, 09:25:28 PM
It's all good y'all like tha last meal alot that's what's up.


most heads do

u one of the few that don’t rock wit it like that
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: phatj on January 19, 2024, 05:53:16 AM
I do like it, it's snoops 2nd best for sure which isn't saying much. I just believe snoop could have made it a classic


most heads do

u one of the few that don’t rock wit it like that
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: Sccit on January 19, 2024, 06:56:26 AM
I do like it, it's snoops 2nd best for sure which isn't saying much. I just believe snoop could have made it a classic


i agree that the advance had some classix that woulda made the album classic
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on January 19, 2024, 07:21:58 AM
It's an amazing run if you line it up like this...

1. No Limit Top Dogg
2. Snoop Dogg Presents the Eastsidaz
3. Last Meal
4. Eastsidaz - Dueces and Treys

Then you throw in his work with Dre on 2001 and the Up in Smoke Tour.  I still don't say it's his best era because I actually lived through the Doggystyle era as a young teenager so nothing can be better than that.  My first experience French kissing a girl was the same night Snoop performed on Saturday Night Live and did "Lodi Dodi".  Check this 4 album run by comparison..

1. Chronic
2. Doggystyle
3. Murder Was the Case
4. Dogg Food




Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: doggfather on January 19, 2024, 11:37:53 AM
It's an amazing run if you line it up like this...

1. No Limit Top Dogg
2. Snoop Dogg Presents the Eastsidaz
3. Last Meal
4. Eastsidaz - Dueces and Treys



i def can continue this...


as exec:

Bad Azz: Personal Business (2001)
Bones OST (2001)

Snoop:

Paid tha Cost to Be da Boss (2002)
Welcome to tha Chuuch 1-9 (2003-2005)
The Hard Way (2004)
R&G (Rhythm & Gangsta): The Masterpiece (2004)



and a bit from next years:

Cali Iz Active (2006)
Tha Blue Carpet Treatment (2006)


And this is the end of "my" term/time...

(but i aint really like top dogg, so i started with eastidaz, sorry!)


He went really hard on this 6-7 years!
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on January 19, 2024, 12:02:57 PM

i def can continue this...


as exec:

Bad Azz: Personal Business (2001)
Bones OST (2001)

Snoop:

Paid tha Cost to Be da Boss (2002)
Welcome to tha Chuuch 1-9 (2003-2005)
The Hard Way (2004)
R&G (Rhythm & Gangsta): The Masterpiece (2004)



and a bit from next years:

Cali Iz Active (2006)
Tha Blue Carpet Treatment (2006)


And this is the end of "my" term/time...

(but i aint really like top dogg, so i started with eastidaz, sorry!)


He went really hard on this 6-7 years!

From "Deep Cover" through "2 of America's Most Wanted" = PRIME SNOOP

From "Bitch Please" through "PIMP REMIX" = 2nd Coming, Resurgence Era CLOSE TO PRIME

From "Beautiful" through "Lighters Up" = OUT OF PRIME BUT STILL DOPE

Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: doggfather on January 19, 2024, 12:05:00 PM
To me Snoop with the neptunes were pure fire. Every time.
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on January 19, 2024, 12:08:02 PM
To me Snoop with the neptunes were pure fire. Every time.

Come on homie how can you give the Neptunes that much love Pharell wears womens clothes
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: HighEyeCue on January 19, 2024, 03:24:34 PM
surprised some of you like Paid the Cost and R&G so much

I thought there was a drop off there as far as quality…there were some dope tracks sure

Blue Carpet Treatment when he hooked back up with Dre I thought he was back to form

and this track Snoop was definitely spitting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHDtWfLi2Y0&si=SzgANEurUsdIM34V
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: doggfather on January 19, 2024, 10:12:29 PM
C mon man, those albums got his biggest hits.

Beautiful, drop it like its hot. These are world wide hits, with good videos and good songs.
Albums got own doggystyle records sound, good features (inhouse and guests too).

Why u aint like em?!


From the chuuch to the palace, lets get blown, signs were hits too!
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on January 19, 2024, 11:08:32 PM
surprised some of you like Paid the Cost and R&G so much

I thought there was a drop off there as far as quality…there were some dope tracks sure

Blue Carpet Treatment when he hooked back up with Dre I thought he was back to form

and this track Snoop was definitely spitting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHDtWfLi2Y0&si=SzgANEurUsdIM34V

as always, I pretty much agree with you—but my bangers from that era of Snoop were "Vato" from Blue Carpet and "Ups and Downs" from R & G
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: doggfather on January 19, 2024, 11:48:02 PM
I like them too, but the q was paid and rng album not blue carpet!


(Vato is neptunes track just sayin)
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on January 20, 2024, 12:52:40 AM
I like them too, but the q was paid and rng album not blue carpet!


(Vato is neptunes track just sayin)

I knew you were going to come back with that...

...tip of the cap to you my friend
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: HighEyeCue on January 20, 2024, 08:49:21 AM
C mon man, those albums got his biggest hits.

Beautiful, drop it like its hot. These are world wide hits, with good videos and good songs.
Albums got own doggystyle records sound, good features (inhouse and guests too).

Why u aint like em?!


From the chuuch to the palace, lets get blown, signs were hits too!

I understand they have hits, but my favorite tracks from those albums were probably not singles

for instance R&G my favorite tracks are "Ups and Downs" like Infinite said and "Tha Bidness"
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: Soopafly DPGC on January 24, 2024, 02:11:22 PM
It's an amazing run if you line it up like this...

1. No Limit Top Dogg
2. Snoop Dogg Presents the Eastsidaz
3. Last Meal
4. Eastsidaz - Dueces and Treys

Then you throw in his work with Dre on 2001 and the Up in Smoke Tour.  I still don't say it's his best era because I actually lived through the Doggystyle era as a young teenager so nothing can be better than that.  My first experience French kissing a girl was the same night Snoop performed on Saturday Night Live and did "Lodi Dodi".  Check this 4 album run by comparison..

1. Chronic
2. Doggystyle
3. Murder Was the Case
4. Dogg Food

You and I are kindred spirits my friend.  I still remember the first time i got in deep with a girl was the night Pac performed on SNL.  We were watching it together and one thing led to another....
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on January 25, 2024, 05:36:31 AM
You and I are kindred spirits my friend.  I still remember the first time i got in deep with a girl was the night Pac performed on SNL.  We were watching it together and one thing led to another....

You mean the night he did "I Ain't Mad At Cha?"   I don't remember seeing that one live, but that's a great memory for you my friend.  Tip of the hat.

As for me—Snoop's SNL performance coming on the same night that I first made out with a girl, it was also because of Snoop that I had more game then most at my school from listening to Snoop.  That used to be a a big part of listening to the music back in those days.  Like Kriss Kross didn't have much respect amongst hip-hop headz and they are mostly just remembered as kids doing "Jump" but I remember in 8th grade a got a lot of my game from their teenage album they had Young, Rich, and Dangerous which was like an instructional manual on how to be a 13 year old mack back in those days.

People that aren't my age won't even understand what I am talking about you had to live those times to know what I mean but cats like you and HighEyeCue would understand that aspect of it.  Now they might call it "swag", but we didn't look at it in that way or call it that way.  We called it "Game".   And you had to have "game" to even approach a girl and talk to a girl.  Now, at my school you either got that because you had parents that were like x-hippies and still smoking weed and partying themselves so those kids had no filter and just did it all naturally—or you had to school yourself from the ground up like I did gettin game from Snoop, Kriss Kross, Kurupt, Jodeci—those were the cats I got my game from.
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: Soopafly DPGC on January 25, 2024, 11:05:20 AM
You mean the night he did "I Ain't Mad At Cha?"   I don't remember seeing that one live, but that's a great memory for you my friend.  Tip of the hat.

As for me—Snoop's SNL performance coming on the same night that I first made out with a girl, it was also because of Snoop that I had more game then most at my school from listening to Snoop.  That used to be a a big part of listening to the music back in those days.  Like Kriss Kross didn't have much respect amongst hip-hop headz and they are mostly just remembered as kids doing "Jump" but I remember in 8th grade a got a lot of my game from their teenage album they had Young, Rich, and Dangerous which was like an instructional manual on how to be a 13 year old mack back in those days.

People that aren't my age won't even understand what I am talking about you had to live those times to know what I mean but cats like you and HighEyeCue would understand that aspect of it.  Now they might call it "swag", but we didn't look at it in that way or call it that way.  We called it "Game".   And you had to have "game" to even approach a girl and talk to a girl.  Now, at my school you either got that because you had parents that were like x-hippies and still smoking weed and partying themselves so those kids had no filter and just did it all naturally—or you had to school yourself from the ground up like I did gettin game from Snoop, Kriss Kross, Kurupt, Jodeci—those were the cats I got my game from.

Getting girls was just so much easier back then.  They basically had to pick from the local crop of guys living in their hood and that's it.  Now with the internet, the whole world is opened up to them.  They got guys from India telling them they're hot and inflating their self-worth and egos to ridiculous proportions.  Back in the day it was so easy to break a bitch down and build her back up to be the woman you wanted her to be.  Now every girl thinks she's hot shit because some dudes halfway across the world are drooling over her instagram pics.  I feel sorry for these younger guys these days who have to deal with that shit. 
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: Sccit on January 25, 2024, 11:36:28 AM
Getting girls was just so much easier back then.  They basically had to pick from the local crop of guys living in their hood and that's it.  Now with the internet, the whole world is opened up to them.  They got guys from India telling them they're hot and inflating their self-worth and egos to ridiculous proportions.  Back in the day it was so easy to break a bitch down and build her back up to be the woman you wanted her to be.  Now every girl thinks she's hot shit because some dudes halfway across the world are drooling over her instagram pics.  I feel sorry for these younger guys these days who have to deal with that shit.

on the contrary girls are much bigger whores than ever and sex culture is at an all time high wit the conditioning via thot rap ……..

so 1 night stands i believe are at an all time high

it’s the long term relationships that’s suffering
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: Soopafly DPGC on January 25, 2024, 02:55:02 PM
on the contrary girls are much bigger whores than ever and sex culture is at an all time high wit the conditioning via thot rap ……..

so 1 night stands i believe are at an all time high

it’s the long term relationships that’s suffering

True, i never had any trouble getting action back then either as far as one night stands go, but it's the attitudes these girls have these days.  I used to have no problem getting ride or die girls, they do anything for you.  Now it seems like they think they're too good for everyone.  So yeah you are right in a sense that it does become much harder to find a loyal long term girl.  But for sure there's plenty of easy women still around. 
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: Duck Duck Doggy on January 25, 2024, 06:50:50 PM
on the contrary girls are much bigger whores than ever and sex culture is at an all time high wit the conditioning via thot rap ……..

so 1 night stands i believe are at an all time high

it’s the long term relationships that’s suffering


This is coming from a guy who’s been out the game for 15 years. Actually this new generation is having the least sex ever. Social media and the internet has created an anti social society who can’t get laid if their life depended on it
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on January 25, 2024, 10:55:39 PM
Getting girls was just so much easier back then.  They basically had to pick from the local crop of guys living in their hood and that's it.  Now with the internet, the whole world is opened up to them.  They got guys from India telling them they're hot and inflating their self-worth and egos to ridiculous proportions.  Back in the day it was so easy to break a bitch down and build her back up to be the woman you wanted her to be.  Now every girl thinks she's hot shit because some dudes halfway across the world are drooling over her instagram pics.  I feel sorry for these younger guys these days who have to deal with that shit.

yeah man--I can't even compare now to back in the days.  I'm just talking about the jr. high days, and my first experiences.  Hip-Hop actually made the whole thing fun for me.  Before hip-hop I used to stress over it--get jealous easily--and even angry at females.  But there was that line from a Coolio song "I Remember" in the mid-90's where J-Ro or somebody from the Licks raps--"And it's been that way since day 1, girls of the world ain't nothin but fun". 

And Snoop was always rappin, "we don't love dem hoes."  But I fell off like Kurupt did, cause I fell in love with a girl and ended up the same way he did on "Callin Out Names." 
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: Soopafly DPGC on January 25, 2024, 11:22:05 PM
yeah man--I can't even compare now to back in the days.  I'm just talking about the jr. high days, and my first experiences.  Hip-Hop actually made the whole thing fun for me.  Before hip-hop I used to stress over it--get jealous easily--and even angry at females.  But there was that line from a Coolio song "I Remember" in the mid-90's where J-Ro or somebody from the Licks raps--"And it's been that way since day 1, girls of the world ain't nothin but fun". 

And Snoop was always rappin, "we don't love dem hoes."  But I fell off like Kurupt did, cause I fell in love with a girl and ended up the same way he did on "Callin Out Names."
"I Remember" was mad underrated.  No one ever talks about that follow up single, but i played the hell out of it back in the day. 
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: Sccit on January 26, 2024, 12:23:18 AM

This is coming from a guy who’s been out the game for 15 years. Actually this new generation is having the least sex ever. Social media and the internet has created an anti social society who can’t get laid if their life depended on it


what is this imaginary game u speak of .. roccy worked security at a club n he will confirm hoes give it up first night more than ever .. sex is not seen as some forbidden taboo shit like it used to be .. that’s a fact. it’s been normalized tenfold, open your eyes.. just like male femininity has been normalized, which is why most dudes suck at gettin pussy nowadays, even wit all these over sexualized females  ..  but hoes are horny n macs are eating

and me havin a lady all these years don’t change that, even cats like albert used to bring females wit their friends over my crib that was lookin to get fucked first night .. how u question facts, are u a coli incel?


simple google search:

https://m.timesofindia.com/life-style/relationships/love-sex/interesting-facts-about-one-night-stands/amp_etphotostory/84344772.cms
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: Desert Lord on January 27, 2024, 03:19:50 PM
LOL, all over sudden this turned into a discussion about girls.

I think it's easier than ever nowadays to date women, including those looking for just sex. Through the internet, it's quite easy to establish if both parties have the same goal, reducing misunderstandings and shit. Of course, there are always pros and cons. However, I believe that for a man who takes care of his appearance and can string together a couple of coherent sentences, having sex dates shouldn't be difficult. That's just my experience tho

Regarding "soft" or "hard" men: I grew up in a tough neighborhood, and my youth and early adulthood were strongly influenced by demonstrating ruffness. Somehow, that's still a part of me, but in recent years, I've learned to soften that ego facade and allow for softer sides. Honestly, I've found that women appreciate it much more than the posturing that often just comes off as embarrasing, by the way.

Of course, it's different with genuine "softies"; they might still generally don't fare well. However, showing some vulnerability doesn't hurt and, most importantly, helps one grow spiritually by breaking down the ugly ego.
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on February 02, 2024, 02:19:38 AM

what is this imaginary game u speak of .. roccy worked security at a club n he will confirm hoes give it up first night more than ever .. sex is not seen as some forbidden taboo shit like it used to be .. that’s a fact. it’s been normalized tenfold, open your eyes.. just like male femininity has been normalized, which is why most dudes suck at gettin pussy nowadays, even wit all these over sexualized females  ..  but hoes are horny n macs are eating

and me havin a lady all these years don’t change that, even cats like albert used to bring females wit their friends over my crib that was lookin to get fucked first night .. how u question facts, are u a coli incel?


simple google search:

https://m.timesofindia.com/life-style/relationships/love-sex/interesting-facts-about-one-night-stands/amp_etphotostory/84344772.cms

ya'll had hoes in my time there.. I can confirm that, I hung out wit ya'll a couple different nights and one night Roccy bagged a hot Asian bitch and the other night one of your Jewish princesses Scitt

not that I disagree with what Dogg is saying either though, and I've hung out with both out there... but just what I witnessed when I was wit Sccit in LA I can confirm what Sccit is sayin
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: Mat on February 17, 2024, 01:13:56 AM
Snoops Best era 1999 to 2006
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: phatj on February 18, 2024, 06:17:27 AM
Death row era wasn't his best? Crazy

Snoops Best era 1999 to 2006
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: HighEyeCue on February 19, 2024, 05:26:35 AM
Death row era wasn't his best? Crazy

you have to realize he might have started to listen to Snoop during that era...Nostalgia goes a long way
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: Mat on February 20, 2024, 02:50:18 AM
Death row era wasn't his best? Crazy
I rushed my reply what i meant to say was Snoops best era 1992-1994
Then 1999-2006
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on February 21, 2024, 12:11:45 PM
you have to realize he might have started to listen to Snoop during that era...Nostalgia goes a long way

I thought it was nostalgia but then when like my own son who didn't even grow up in those times, likes the same stuff I like it makes you wonder.

Like for example, 80's love songs.  I promise you you could play somebody those songs that wasn't even alive then and they will be like "damn that's good music."  Same with mid 90's rap.  you can play somebody never born then and shit like "california Love" is undeniable.

So it's kind of hard to say like, how much of what we like is just nostalgia and how much of it is objectively legit? 

I fuccin live in the Arab Gulf now and you wouldn't believe how many kids at the beach or at the mall that are only like 15 or 16 years old are walking around with 2pac shirts. 
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: Duck Duck Doggy on February 21, 2024, 12:31:37 PM
Well yeah 2pac is an iconic figure on the levels of Bob Marley and Michael Jackson. You can tell from when you walk down the tourist trap spots like Hollywood walk of fame or Venice beach and all the vendors/shops have t shirts with only faces of legends on them. They will live on forever
Title: Re: Snoops best era 1999-2004 imo
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on February 22, 2024, 05:23:16 AM
Well yeah 2pac is an iconic figure on the levels of Bob Marley and Michael Jackson. You can tell from when you walk down the tourist trap spots like Hollywood walk of fame or Venice beach and all the vendors/shops have t shirts with only faces of legends on them. They will live on forever

I'm lucky to say I was alive and well for the entirety of 2pac's career.  I remember when "Humpty Dance" was big (though of course Pac was just a roadie) and  I remember vividly when tracks like "I Get Around" and "Keep Your Head Up" debuted it was all the best times ever when Pac was doing it