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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 23, 2007, 09:37:18 AM
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Anyone disagree?
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Yes...me and about 95% of NBA fans with at least 10 IQ points
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I remember before they got drafted I always said that Carmelo was gonna be better. I don't think he has been though.
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Lebron is the better all around player, and Melo got the best overall offensive game.. he can attack the basket, got a good mid-range game.. anyways the World Championship was a proof of that.. Wade is very good at attacking the basket , a good passer and a good help on weak side Defender.. but no outside game at all ..
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Yes...me and about 95% of NBA fans with at least 10 IQ points
So what makes LeBron and Wade better than Carmelo? The media? Because watching them play, it's clear who is the most fundamentally sound, who possesses the most skills (not athleticism), and who plays the best defense of the three. They're all on the same level, don't get me wrong, but Carmelo is simply better IMO. The media don't want you to see it that way though...People who can't think for themselves wont formulate their own opinion.
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I remember before they got drafted I always said that Carmelo was gonna be better. I don't think he has been though.
What about this year? You don't think Carmelo had a better season than Wade and LeBron?
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Yes...me and about 95% of NBA fans with at least 10 IQ points
So what makes LeBron and Wade better than Carmelo? The media? Because watching them play, it's clear who is the most fundamentally sound, who possesses the most skills (not athleticism), and who plays the best defense of the three. They're all on the same level, don't get me wrong, but Carmelo is simply better IMO. The media don't want you to see it that way though...People who can't think for themselves wont formulate their own opinion.
I thought you are posting that becuase of Melo's performance last night.
Lebron is the better player...lets check out the "offensive" stats
Career Fg% 3P% FT% Reb AST PTS
Lebron .463 .327 .733 6.7 6.4 26.7
Carmelo .455 .279 .798 5.7 2.9 24.1
Lebron has avg'd more steals, blocks..they're almost even in Turnovers a game (and Lebron plays about 3 more mins than Melo)
I don't know...by looks of just STATS alone..Lebron is the better player.
But there are i guess..other factors that you can't measure by some stats.
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I remember before they got drafted I always said that Carmelo was gonna be better. I don't think he has been though.
What about this year? You don't think Carmelo had a better season than Wade and LeBron?
Lebron had just as good of a season as melo this year...Melo scored 1 more point a game than Lebron...thats all he had on Lebron
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^^Who cares about career stats? I'm talking about right now...Carmelo is easily the more polished offensive player. They're all on the same level defensive-wise, but Carmelo actually knows how to stay in front of his man, so I'd give him the edge in that as well...Steals and blocks don't mean shit when it comes to being a good defender, a lot of terrible defenders pick up crazy steals and blocks because they gamble a lot and end up getting burned every time they fail...LeBron shoots in the 60's% from the free throw line and Wade couldn't shoot to save his life...Simply put, in my very valid opinion, Carmelo > LeBron & Wade...
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I remember before they got drafted I always said that Carmelo was gonna be better. I don't think he has been though.
What about this year? You don't think Carmelo had a better season than Wade and LeBron?
Lebron had just as good of a season as melo this year...Melo scored 1 more point a game than Lebron...thats all he had on Lebron
You're only looking at stats, bro...Watch the games. Carmelo is better. LeBron is the primary offense in Cleveland.
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He's got certain aspects of his game that are better than the 2, better clutch player than Lebron, but not Wade. Anthony has power and viciousness that Wade and James don't have, but Lebron is a better playmaker, and Wade is just a step ahead of Melo.
Honestly, I couldn't pick the best out of the 3, if I did it would have to be Wade. Not 1 player in the league hits shots more demoralizing to the opponent than anyone. Wade makes the shots that he really shouldn't. He is also the only out of the 3 that steps his g up for the play offs. Melo's last 2 playoff apperance were poor for a player of his standards. I won't be able to say too much about Lebron in the playoffs until the 2nd round, when they play a real team.
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Yes...me and about 95% of NBA fans with at least 10 IQ points
So what makes LeBron and Wade better than Carmelo? The media? Because watching them play, it's clear who is the most fundamentally sound, who possesses the most skills (not athleticism), and who plays the best defense of the three. They're all on the same level, don't get me wrong, but Carmelo is simply better IMO. The media don't want you to see it that way though...People who can't think for themselves wont formulate their own opinion.
you know most of the posters here (and in general) don't watch NBA games.. they just repeat what so called experts said on sport shows.. back on topic , regardless who's the best between these 3 (Imo I'd put Melo and Bron on the same level then Wade, it's true Melo is slept on when you compare it to all the hype Wade and Bron have.. when I was in LA, I sometimes watched BSPN and it's incredible how they can"t stop talking about these two :-X
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Wade is the worst of the 3.
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Right and how many rings do Lebron and Carmelo have....I thought so. Wade almost single handly willed his team to a victory in a championship against a team that was clearly better.
And you don't back up what your saying. Wade is injury prone, but is not worse than Lebron, and Carmelo doesn't even have a all around game yet. I think your talking out of your ass again Elior.
He is able to cut to the basket and make open oppurtunity's for other teammates better than any of the 3. In terms of sheer skill, it's Lebron no doubt. But placing Wade under these 2 in an all around comparison is ignorant. I would say the person making this statemant doesn't know b-ball that well.
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Right and how many rings do Lebron and Carmelo have....I thought so. Wade almost single handly willed his team to a victory in a championship against a team that was clearly better.
And you don't back up what your saying. Wade is injury prone, but is not worse than Lebron, and Carmelo doesn't even have a all around game yet. I think your talking out of your ass again Elior.
He is able to cut to the basket and make open oppurtunity's for other teammates better than any of the 3. In terms of sheer skill, it's Lebron no doubt. But placing Wade under these 2 in an all around comparison is ignorant. I would say the person making this statemant doesn't know b-ball that well.
Ignorant? The only thing ignorant in all of this is claiming that Wade is substantially better than the 2. You need to actually watch games. Wade is extremely overrated. Dude's signature move is driving to the hoop and getting "fouled". His defense sucks worse than LeBron's, his shot is atrocious, dude is 95% hype...And Carmelo doesn't have all around game yet? What the hell are you saying? So LeBron & Wade do? Get the fuck outta here. A ring doesn't mean shit when the REFS willed you to it, making you the worst champion of all time. See how Wade fared this year as a leader of the Heat? Disgusting. Carmelo > LeBron >> Wade.
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Right and how many rings do Lebron and Carmelo have....I thought so. Wade almost single handly willed his team to a victory in a championship against a team that was clearly better.
And you don't back up what your saying. Wade is injury prone, but is not worse than Lebron, and Carmelo doesn't even have a all around game yet. I think your talking out of your ass again Elior.
He is able to cut to the basket and make open oppurtunity's for other teammates better than any of the 3. In terms of sheer skill, it's Lebron no doubt. But placing Wade under these 2 in an all around comparison is ignorant. I would say the person making this statemant doesn't know b-ball that well.
Ignorant? The only thing ignorant in all of this is claiming that Wade is substantially better than the 2. You need to actually watch games. Wade is extremely overrated. Dude's signature move is driving to the hoop and getting "fouled". His defense sucks worse than LeBron's, his shot is atrocious, dude is 95% hype...And Carmelo doesn't have all around game yet? What the hell are you saying? So LeBron & Wade do? Get the fuck outta here. A ring doesn't mean shit when the REFS willed you to it, making you the worst champion of all time. See how Wade fared this year as a leader of the Heat? Disgusting. Carmelo > LeBron >> Wade.
Bottom line, they still won. The refs cannot decide who wins the series. Your immaturity shows alot with that. Don't blame the refs for the players mistakes, that's a copout. Wade has taken his team farther than Melo or Lebron. Wade has stepped it up in the playoffs more than any of the 3. LeBron is still more skilled, just not as good of a team player as Wade is. And the Heat were disgusting...right. They still made the playoffs, might even win the 1st round. Wade was hurt again too this season. And also, what's with all the curses, kiddo? U mad?
Carmelo does NOT have a complete game yet. He doesn't have the long range shooting, is not as aggresive on d as he should, doesn't get his team involved as much, and the most important fact, is that he has yet to step it up in the playoffs.
As far as "your" explanation for Wade signature move, it's a good one. Fouls=FT's=points. Wade gets fouled going to the basket because he can't be stopped otherwise. There ya go, little guy.
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Right and how many rings do Lebron and Carmelo have....I thought so. Wade almost single handly willed his team to a victory in a championship against a team that was clearly better.
And you don't back up what your saying. Wade is injury prone, but is not worse than Lebron, and Carmelo doesn't even have a all around game yet. I think your talking out of your ass again Elior.
He is able to cut to the basket and make open oppurtunity's for other teammates better than any of the 3. In terms of sheer skill, it's Lebron no doubt. But placing Wade under these 2 in an all around comparison is ignorant. I would say the person making this statemant doesn't know b-ball that well.
Ignorant? The only thing ignorant in all of this is claiming that Wade is substantially better than the 2. You need to actually watch games. Wade is extremely overrated. Dude's signature move is driving to the hoop and getting "fouled". His defense sucks worse than LeBron's, his shot is atrocious, dude is 95% hype...And Carmelo doesn't have all around game yet? What the hell are you saying? So LeBron & Wade do? Get the fuck outta here. A ring doesn't mean shit when the REFS willed you to it, making you the worst champion of all time. See how Wade fared this year as a leader of the Heat? Disgusting. Carmelo > LeBron >> Wade.
Bottom line, they still won. The refs cannot decide who wins the series. Your immaturity shows alot with that. Don't blame the refs for the players mistakes, that's a copout. Wade has taken his team farther than Melo or Lebron. Wade has stepped it up in the playoffs more than any of the 3. LeBron is still more skilled, just not as good of a team player as Wade is. And the Heat were disgusting...right. They still made the playoffs, might even win the 1st round. Wade was hurt again too this season. And also, what's with all the curses, kiddo? U mad?
Carmelo does NOT have a complete game yet. He doesn't have the long range shooting, is not as aggresive on d as he should, doesn't get his team involved as much, and the most important fact, is that he has yet to step it up in the playoffs.
As far as "your" explanation for Wade signature move, it's a good one. Fouls=FT's=points. Wade gets fouled going to the basket because he can't be stopped otherwise. There ya go, little guy.
LMFAO!
You just dissed Carmelo for "not having the long range shooting" in a Carmelo vs. Wade debate...HAHAHAHA. You automatically lose for that one, son. Honestly though, your argument of Wade winning a championship is a pretty pathetic one. Everyone knows of the screwjob that went down, and even if it wasnt because of the refs, Heat had a team geared to win, while Denver and Cleveland were still in their building stages last year...Please explain to me how the fuck that means Wade is better? You make no sense. Wade is shit. He can't even lead a team to an above .500 record...Shaq fell off MAJORLY, and it's STILL up for debate as to who's team it is. :-X
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I remember before they got drafted I always said that Carmelo was gonna be better. I don't think he has been though.
Do you think Melo should've been rookie of the year? I've been having that debate since Lebron won it. Melo had the better stats and his team had the biggest turn around.
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Right and how many rings do Lebron and Carmelo have....I thought so. Wade almost single handly willed his team to a victory in a championship against a team that was clearly better.
And you don't back up what your saying. Wade is injury prone, but is not worse than Lebron, and Carmelo doesn't even have a all around game yet. I think your talking out of your ass again Elior.
He is able to cut to the basket and make open oppurtunity's for other teammates better than any of the 3. In terms of sheer skill, it's Lebron no doubt. But placing Wade under these 2 in an all around comparison is ignorant. I would say the person making this statemant doesn't know b-ball that well.
Ignorant? The only thing ignorant in all of this is claiming that Wade is substantially better than the 2. You need to actually watch games. Wade is extremely overrated. Dude's signature move is driving to the hoop and getting "fouled". His defense sucks worse than LeBron's, his shot is atrocious, dude is 95% hype...And Carmelo doesn't have all around game yet? What the hell are you saying? So LeBron & Wade do? Get the fuck outta here. A ring doesn't mean shit when the REFS willed you to it, making you the worst champion of all time. See how Wade fared this year as a leader of the Heat? Disgusting. Carmelo > LeBron >> Wade.
Bottom line, they still won. The refs cannot decide who wins the series. Your immaturity shows alot with that. Don't blame the refs for the players mistakes, that's a copout. Wade has taken his team farther than Melo or Lebron. Wade has stepped it up in the playoffs more than any of the 3. LeBron is still more skilled, just not as good of a team player as Wade is. And the Heat were disgusting...right. They still made the playoffs, might even win the 1st round. Wade was hurt again too this season. And also, what's with all the curses, kiddo? U mad?
Carmelo does NOT have a complete game yet. He doesn't have the long range shooting, is not as aggresive on d as he should, doesn't get his team involved as much, and the most important fact, is that he has yet to step it up in the playoffs.
As far as "your" explanation for Wade signature move, it's a good one. Fouls=FT's=points. Wade gets fouled going to the basket because he can't be stopped otherwise. There ya go, little guy.
LMFAO!
You just dissed Carmelo for "not having the long range shooting" in a Carmelo vs. Wade debate...HAHAHAHA. You automatically lose for that one, son. Honestly though, your argument of Wade winning a championship is a pretty pathetic one. Everyone knows of the screwjob that went down, and even if it wasnt because of the refs, Heat had a team geared to win, while Denver and Cleveland were still in their building stages last year...Please explain to me how the fuck that means Wade is better? You make no sense. Wade is shit. He can't even lead a team to an above .500 record...Shaq fell off MAJORLY, and it's STILL up for debate as to who's team it is. :-X
I know Wade doesn't have it that great form long range either, but it's not a big part of his game. Heat had a team geared to win because they had DWAYNE WADE. That's why. He is the best team player of the 2. Denver had a great team imo, and couldnt get it done.
Wade is shit?, you dont know your basketball, little boy. Everybody knows it's Wade's team, Shaq provides the perfect balance, and is still the nost dominating low post player in the NBA. One star won't win championships, you need 2. Part oif the reason why your team can't do shit in the playoffs. Wade still got his team there in an injury plagued season, he is the best 2 guard in the Eaast without a doubt.
Your still ignoring my player to player comparisons. Wade is the better player in terms of team work, team performance and comes a close second to Lebron in terms of all around skill. It's so easy to blame the refs, but again that is a copout on your part. Miami won that championship fair and square. Wade is the perfect player as long as he's not hurt, so they only thing he needs to do is toughen up. He really doesn't need the long range game yet because he cannot be stopped going to the basket.
Right now, Wade is the better of the big 3, and until Lebron and Carmelo can take there teams somewhere in the playoffs, he will remain the better of the 3. Also, Carmelo needs an a major attitude change before he can truly be a great player. It's hard to root for a coward like Melo, I'll still give him a 2nd chance but he is the least complete player out of the 3.
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Right and how many rings do Lebron and Carmelo have....I thought so. Wade almost single handly willed his team to a victory in a championship against a team that was clearly better.
And you don't back up what your saying. Wade is injury prone, but is not worse than Lebron, and Carmelo doesn't even have a all around game yet. I think your talking out of your ass again Elior.
He is able to cut to the basket and make open oppurtunity's for other teammates better than any of the 3. In terms of sheer skill, it's Lebron no doubt. But placing Wade under these 2 in an all around comparison is ignorant. I would say the person making this statemant doesn't know b-ball that well.
Ignorant? The only thing ignorant in all of this is claiming that Wade is substantially better than the 2. You need to actually watch games. Wade is extremely overrated. Dude's signature move is driving to the hoop and getting "fouled". His defense sucks worse than LeBron's, his shot is atrocious, dude is 95% hype...And Carmelo doesn't have all around game yet? What the hell are you saying? So LeBron & Wade do? Get the fuck outta here. A ring doesn't mean shit when the REFS willed you to it, making you the worst champion of all time. See how Wade fared this year as a leader of the Heat? Disgusting. Carmelo > LeBron >> Wade.
Bottom line, they still won. The refs cannot decide who wins the series. Your immaturity shows alot with that. Don't blame the refs for the players mistakes, that's a copout. Wade has taken his team farther than Melo or Lebron. Wade has stepped it up in the playoffs more than any of the 3. LeBron is still more skilled, just not as good of a team player as Wade is. And the Heat were disgusting...right. They still made the playoffs, might even win the 1st round. Wade was hurt again too this season. And also, what's with all the curses, kiddo? U mad?
Carmelo does NOT have a complete game yet. He doesn't have the long range shooting, is not as aggresive on d as he should, doesn't get his team involved as much, and the most important fact, is that he has yet to step it up in the playoffs.
As far as "your" explanation for Wade signature move, it's a good one. Fouls=FT's=points. Wade gets fouled going to the basket because he can't be stopped otherwise. There ya go, little guy.
LMFAO!
You just dissed Carmelo for "not having the long range shooting" in a Carmelo vs. Wade debate...HAHAHAHA. You automatically lose for that one, son. Honestly though, your argument of Wade winning a championship is a pretty pathetic one. Everyone knows of the screwjob that went down, and even if it wasnt because of the refs, Heat had a team geared to win, while Denver and Cleveland were still in their building stages last year...Please explain to me how the fuck that means Wade is better? You make no sense. Wade is shit. He can't even lead a team to an above .500 record...Shaq fell off MAJORLY, and it's STILL up for debate as to who's team it is. :-X
I know Wade doesn't have it that great form long range either, but it's not a big part of his game. Heat had a team geared to win because they had DWAYNE WADE. That's why. He is the best team player of the 2. Denver had a great team imo, and couldnt get it done.
Wade is shit?, you dont know your basketball, little boy. Everybody knows it's Wade's team, Shaq provides the perfect balance, and is still the nost dominating low post player in the NBA. One star won't win championships, you need 2. Part oif the reason why your team can't do shit in the playoffs. Wade still got his team there in an injury plagued season, he is the best 2 guard in the Eaast without a doubt.
Your still ignoring my player to player comparisons. Wade is the better player in terms of team work, team performance and comes a close second to Lebron in terms of all around skill. It's so easy to blame the refs, but again that is a copout on your part. Miami won that championship fair and square. Wade is the perfect player as long as he's not hurt, so they only thing he needs to do is toughen up. He really doesn't need the long range game yet because he cannot be stopped going to the basket.
Right now, Wade is the better of the big 3, and until Lebron and Carmelo can take there teams somewhere in the playoffs, he will remain the better of the 3. Also, Carmelo needs an a major attitude change before he can truly be a great player. It's hard to root for a coward like Melo, I'll still give him a 2nd chance but he is the least complete player out of the 3.
What are you saying? You replace Wade with Carmelo last year, and the Heat are just as geared to win. You replace Carmelo with Wade last year, and Denver still woulda' been in its building stages. Your arguments suck. Vince Carter is a better 2guard than Wade, that should tell you something. Carmelo is doing better for his team than Wade and LeBron are currently doing for theirs, so I really don't know what you're talking about. I'd be surprised if you've actually watched all 3 playing, or maybe you weren't paying attention?
Last but not least:
Miami won that championship fair and square. Wade is the perfect player
LMAO.
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Simply put, in my very valid opinion, Carmelo > LeBron & Wade...
What the fuck makes your opinion valid anymore than anybody elses?
You are always wrong about Kobe, now your wrong about this. You're a fucking tool.
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Carmelo is bigger so theres really no comparsion
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Simply put, in my very valid opinion, Carmelo > LeBron & Wade...
What the fuck makes your opinion valid anymore than anybody elses?
You are always wrong about Kobe, now your wrong about this. You're a fucking tool.
Exactly.
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He's got certain aspects of his game that are better than the 2, better clutch player than Lebron, but not Wade. Anthony has power and viciousness that Wade and James don't have, but Lebron is a better playmaker, and Wade is just a step ahead of Melo.
Honestly, I couldn't pick the best out of the 3, if I did it would have to be Wade. Not 1 player in the league hits shots more demoralizing to the opponent than anyone. Wade makes the shots that he really shouldn't. He is also the only out of the 3 that steps his g up for the play offs. Melo's last 2 playoff apperance were poor for a player of his standards. I won't be able to say too much about Lebron in the playoffs until the 2nd round, when they play a real team.
^^Agreed, and damn NIK you still haven't gotten over the Heat winning it, it's already been almost a year, let's get to this year's playoffs
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Right and how many rings do Lebron and Carmelo have....I thought so. Wade almost single handly willed his team to a victory in a championship against a team that was clearly better.
And you don't back up what your saying. Wade is injury prone, but is not worse than Lebron, and Carmelo doesn't even have a all around game yet. I think your talking out of your ass again Elior.
He is able to cut to the basket and make open oppurtunity's for other teammates better than any of the 3. In terms of sheer skill, it's Lebron no doubt. But placing Wade under these 2 in an all around comparison is ignorant. I would say the person making this statemant doesn't know b-ball that well.
Ignorant? The only thing ignorant in all of this is claiming that Wade is substantially better than the 2. You need to actually watch games. Wade is extremely overrated. Dude's signature move is driving to the hoop and getting "fouled". His defense sucks worse than LeBron's, his shot is atrocious, dude is 95% hype...And Carmelo doesn't have all around game yet? What the hell are you saying? So LeBron & Wade do? Get the fuck outta here. A ring doesn't mean shit when the REFS willed you to it, making you the worst champion of all time. See how Wade fared this year as a leader of the Heat? Disgusting. Carmelo > LeBron >> Wade.
Bottom line, they still won. The refs cannot decide who wins the series. Your immaturity shows alot with that. Don't blame the refs for the players mistakes, that's a copout. Wade has taken his team farther than Melo or Lebron. Wade has stepped it up in the playoffs more than any of the 3. LeBron is still more skilled, just not as good of a team player as Wade is. And the Heat were disgusting...right. They still made the playoffs, might even win the 1st round. Wade was hurt again too this season. And also, what's with all the curses, kiddo? U mad?
Carmelo does NOT have a complete game yet. He doesn't have the long range shooting, is not as aggresive on d as he should, doesn't get his team involved as much, and the most important fact, is that he has yet to step it up in the playoffs.
As far as "your" explanation for Wade signature move, it's a good one. Fouls=FT's=points. Wade gets fouled going to the basket because he can't be stopped otherwise. There ya go, little guy.
LMFAO!
You just dissed Carmelo for "not having the long range shooting" in a Carmelo vs. Wade debate...HAHAHAHA. You automatically lose for that one, son. Honestly though, your argument of Wade winning a championship is a pretty pathetic one. Everyone knows of the screwjob that went down, and even if it wasnt because of the refs, Heat had a team geared to win, while Denver and Cleveland were still in their building stages last year...Please explain to me how the fuck that means Wade is better? You make no sense. Wade is shit. He can't even lead a team to an above .500 record...Shaq fell off MAJORLY, and it's STILL up for debate as to who's team it is. :-X
I know Wade doesn't have it that great form long range either, but it's not a big part of his game. Heat had a team geared to win because they had DWAYNE WADE. That's why. He is the best team player of the 2. Denver had a great team imo, and couldnt get it done.
Wade is shit?, you dont know your basketball, little boy. Everybody knows it's Wade's team, Shaq provides the perfect balance, and is still the nost dominating low post player in the NBA. One star won't win championships, you need 2. Part oif the reason why your team can't do shit in the playoffs. Wade still got his team there in an injury plagued season, he is the best 2 guard in the Eaast without a doubt.
Your still ignoring my player to player comparisons. Wade is the better player in terms of team work, team performance and comes a close second to Lebron in terms of all around skill. It's so easy to blame the refs, but again that is a copout on your part. Miami won that championship fair and square. Wade is the perfect player as long as he's not hurt, so they only thing he needs to do is toughen up. He really doesn't need the long range game yet because he cannot be stopped going to the basket.
Right now, Wade is the better of the big 3, and until Lebron and Carmelo can take there teams somewhere in the playoffs, he will remain the better of the 3. Also, Carmelo needs an a major attitude change before he can truly be a great player. It's hard to root for a coward like Melo, I'll still give him a 2nd chance but he is the least complete player out of the 3.
What are you saying? You replace Wade with Carmelo last year, and the Heat are just as geared to win. You replace Carmelo with Wade last year, and Denver still woulda' been in its building stages. Your arguments suck. Vince Carter is a better 2guard than Wade, that should tell you something. Carmelo is doing better for his team than Wade and LeBron are currently doing for theirs, so I really don't know what you're talking about. I'd be surprised if you've actually watched all 3 playing, or maybe you weren't paying attention?
Last but not least:
Miami won that championship fair and square. Wade is the perfect player
LMAO.
Put Wade on Denver last year, and they would have done something. replace Wade with Carmelo, and the Heat lose there balance. Wade is a TEAM player, I don't see what you don't get about that. I'm not trashing Melo, but he needs to mature, and improve on his teamwork before he can take a team past the 1st round.
Carmelo has a better team than he did last year, of course he helps his team, but you can't say he helps more than Lebron. Denver without Anthony is still a decent team, Cavs without Lebron, are terrible.
And as for Vince, he's on my squad, I'm at Nets games all year and I will gladly tell you that Wade is MUCH better. Carter has been know to settle for bullshit shots, and if he's not happy, his performance suffers from it. Wade on defense>>>Carter. Carter is a good fit for NJ, better than Wade, but Dwayne is such a better player. No one else arees with you, give it up kid.
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Simply put, in my very valid opinion, Carmelo > LeBron & Wade...
What the fuck makes your opinion valid anymore than anybody elses?
You are always wrong about Kobe, now your wrong about this. You're a fucking tool.
Who said anything about being more valid? Pay attention or don't post...Especially if you have nothing useful to add.
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He's got certain aspects of his game that are better than the 2, better clutch player than Lebron, but not Wade. Anthony has power and viciousness that Wade and James don't have, but Lebron is a better playmaker, and Wade is just a step ahead of Melo.
Honestly, I couldn't pick the best out of the 3, if I did it would have to be Wade. Not 1 player in the league hits shots more demoralizing to the opponent than anyone. Wade makes the shots that he really shouldn't. He is also the only out of the 3 that steps his g up for the play offs. Melo's last 2 playoff apperance were poor for a player of his standards. I won't be able to say too much about Lebron in the playoffs until the 2nd round, when they play a real team.
^^Agreed, and damn NIK you still haven't gotten over the Heat winning it, it's already been almost a year, let's get to this year's playoffs
Wait....that's why Elior is hating on Wade? That's SAD.
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He's got certain aspects of his game that are better than the 2, better clutch player than Lebron, but not Wade. Anthony has power and viciousness that Wade and James don't have, but Lebron is a better playmaker, and Wade is just a step ahead of Melo.
Honestly, I couldn't pick the best out of the 3, if I did it would have to be Wade. Not 1 player in the league hits shots more demoralizing to the opponent than anyone. Wade makes the shots that he really shouldn't. He is also the only out of the 3 that steps his g up for the play offs. Melo's last 2 playoff apperance were poor for a player of his standards. I won't be able to say too much about Lebron in the playoffs until the 2nd round, when they play a real team.
^^Agreed, and damn NIK you still haven't gotten over the Heat winning it, it's already been almost a year, let's get to this year's playoffs
What does this have to do with the Heat winning? I simply think LeBron and Carmelo are both better then Wade...No reason to catch feelings over it.
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He's got certain aspects of his game that are better than the 2, better clutch player than Lebron, but not Wade. Anthony has power and viciousness that Wade and James don't have, but Lebron is a better playmaker, and Wade is just a step ahead of Melo.
Honestly, I couldn't pick the best out of the 3, if I did it would have to be Wade. Not 1 player in the league hits shots more demoralizing to the opponent than anyone. Wade makes the shots that he really shouldn't. He is also the only out of the 3 that steps his g up for the play offs. Melo's last 2 playoff apperance were poor for a player of his standards. I won't be able to say too much about Lebron in the playoffs until the 2nd round, when they play a real team.
^^Agreed, and damn NIK you still haven't gotten over the Heat winning it, it's already been almost a year, let's get to this year's playoffs
What does this have to do with the Heat winning? I simply think LeBron and Carmelo are both better then Wade...No reason to catch feelings over it.
it has to do with you trashing Wade because YOU feel like they shouldn't have won the championship. Lebron>>Wade>>Anthony
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Right and how many rings do Lebron and Carmelo have....I thought so. Wade almost single handly willed his team to a victory in a championship against a team that was clearly better.
And you don't back up what your saying. Wade is injury prone, but is not worse than Lebron, and Carmelo doesn't even have a all around game yet. I think your talking out of your ass again Elior.
He is able to cut to the basket and make open oppurtunity's for other teammates better than any of the 3. In terms of sheer skill, it's Lebron no doubt. But placing Wade under these 2 in an all around comparison is ignorant. I would say the person making this statemant doesn't know b-ball that well.
Ignorant? The only thing ignorant in all of this is claiming that Wade is substantially better than the 2. You need to actually watch games. Wade is extremely overrated. Dude's signature move is driving to the hoop and getting "fouled". His defense sucks worse than LeBron's, his shot is atrocious, dude is 95% hype...And Carmelo doesn't have all around game yet? What the hell are you saying? So LeBron & Wade do? Get the fuck outta here. A ring doesn't mean shit when the REFS willed you to it, making you the worst champion of all time. See how Wade fared this year as a leader of the Heat? Disgusting. Carmelo > LeBron >> Wade.
Bottom line, they still won. The refs cannot decide who wins the series. Your immaturity shows alot with that. Don't blame the refs for the players mistakes, that's a copout. Wade has taken his team farther than Melo or Lebron. Wade has stepped it up in the playoffs more than any of the 3. LeBron is still more skilled, just not as good of a team player as Wade is. And the Heat were disgusting...right. They still made the playoffs, might even win the 1st round. Wade was hurt again too this season. And also, what's with all the curses, kiddo? U mad?
Carmelo does NOT have a complete game yet. He doesn't have the long range shooting, is not as aggresive on d as he should, doesn't get his team involved as much, and the most important fact, is that he has yet to step it up in the playoffs.
As far as "your" explanation for Wade signature move, it's a good one. Fouls=FT's=points. Wade gets fouled going to the basket because he can't be stopped otherwise. There ya go, little guy.
LMFAO!
You just dissed Carmelo for "not having the long range shooting" in a Carmelo vs. Wade debate...HAHAHAHA. You automatically lose for that one, son. Honestly though, your argument of Wade winning a championship is a pretty pathetic one. Everyone knows of the screwjob that went down, and even if it wasnt because of the refs, Heat had a team geared to win, while Denver and Cleveland were still in their building stages last year...Please explain to me how the fuck that means Wade is better? You make no sense. Wade is shit. He can't even lead a team to an above .500 record...Shaq fell off MAJORLY, and it's STILL up for debate as to who's team it is. :-X
I know Wade doesn't have it that great form long range either, but it's not a big part of his game. Heat had a team geared to win because they had DWAYNE WADE. That's why. He is the best team player of the 2. Denver had a great team imo, and couldnt get it done.
Wade is shit?, you dont know your basketball, little boy. Everybody knows it's Wade's team, Shaq provides the perfect balance, and is still the nost dominating low post player in the NBA. One star won't win championships, you need 2. Part oif the reason why your team can't do shit in the playoffs. Wade still got his team there in an injury plagued season, he is the best 2 guard in the Eaast without a doubt.
Your still ignoring my player to player comparisons. Wade is the better player in terms of team work, team performance and comes a close second to Lebron in terms of all around skill. It's so easy to blame the refs, but again that is a copout on your part. Miami won that championship fair and square. Wade is the perfect player as long as he's not hurt, so they only thing he needs to do is toughen up. He really doesn't need the long range game yet because he cannot be stopped going to the basket.
Right now, Wade is the better of the big 3, and until Lebron and Carmelo can take there teams somewhere in the playoffs, he will remain the better of the 3. Also, Carmelo needs an a major attitude change before he can truly be a great player. It's hard to root for a coward like Melo, I'll still give him a 2nd chance but he is the least complete player out of the 3.
What are you saying? You replace Wade with Carmelo last year, and the Heat are just as geared to win. You replace Carmelo with Wade last year, and Denver still woulda' been in its building stages. Your arguments suck. Vince Carter is a better 2guard than Wade, that should tell you something. Carmelo is doing better for his team than Wade and LeBron are currently doing for theirs, so I really don't know what you're talking about. I'd be surprised if you've actually watched all 3 playing, or maybe you weren't paying attention?
Last but not least:
Miami won that championship fair and square. Wade is the perfect player
LMAO.
Put Wade on Denver last year, and they would have done something. replace Wade with Carmelo, and the Heat lose there balance. Wade is a TEAM player, I don't see what you don't get about that. I'm not trashing Melo, but he needs to mature, and improve on his teamwork before he can take a team past the 1st round.
Carmelo has a better team than he did last year, of course he helps his team, but you can't say he helps more than Lebron. Denver without Anthony is still a decent team, Cavs without Lebron, are terrible.
And as for Vince, he's on my squad, I'm at Nets games all year and I will gladly tell you that Wade is MUCH better. Carter has been know to settle for bullshit shots, and if he's not happy, his performance suffers from it. Wade on defense>>>Carter. Carter is a good fit for NJ, better than Wade, but Dwayne is such a better player. No one else arees with you, give it up kid.
No one agrees with me? Evidently, you haven't been reading these boards for long enough. Most of the posters here think Wade is an overrated primaddonna who gets way too many calls in his favor. The best part of his game is free throws...People who get their opinions from what the media tells them will say Wade is better. Educated basketball heads who know the game will tell you that Wade is not nearly as good as he's made out to be...PeACe
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Oh...and LMAO@if you really think Wade woulda done something in the west last year if he was on the Nuggets instead of Carmelo. :-X
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I remember before they got drafted I always said that Carmelo was gonna be better. I don't think he has been though.
Do you think Melo should've been rookie of the year? I've been having that debate since Lebron won it. Melo had the better stats and his team had the biggest turn around.
Yeah, I believe he should have won ROTY that year. Melo had the better all around season. Lebron won it that year because of all the hype around him.
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To me LeBron is the best player out of the 3.
Carmelo has a more polished jumper, no question.
But LeBron has significantly better play-making ability, as does Wade. LeBron also has a better 3-point shot than people tend to give him credit for. Wade and LeBron have superior athleticism, too.
Carmelo's teammates shit all over LeBron's. Still he managed to get to 50 wins.
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To me LeBron is the best player out of the 3.
Carmelo has a more polished jumper, no question.
But LeBron has significantly better play-making ability, as does Wade. LeBron also has a better 3-point shot than people tend to give him credit for. Wade and LeBron have superior athleticism, too.
Carmelo's teammates shit all over LeBron's. Still he managed to get to 50 wins.
Spoken like a real fan. 8)
Again, Lebron>>>>Wade>>>>Melo....all great players, all good in there own way. Elior, I don't c anyone agreeing with you.
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Right and how many rings do Lebron and Carmelo have....I thought so. Wade almost single handly willed his team to a victory in a championship against a team that was clearly better.
And you don't back up what your saying. Wade is injury prone, but is not worse than Lebron, and Carmelo doesn't even have a all around game yet. I think your talking out of your ass again Elior.
He is able to cut to the basket and make open oppurtunity's for other teammates better than any of the 3. In terms of sheer skill, it's Lebron no doubt. But placing Wade under these 2 in an all around comparison is ignorant. I would say the person making this statemant doesn't know b-ball that well.
Ignorant? The only thing ignorant in all of this is claiming that Wade is substantially better than the 2. You need to actually watch games. Wade is extremely overrated. Dude's signature move is driving to the hoop and getting "fouled". His defense sucks worse than LeBron's, his shot is atrocious, dude is 95% hype...And Carmelo doesn't have all around game yet? What the hell are you saying? So LeBron & Wade do? Get the fuck outta here. A ring doesn't mean shit when the REFS willed you to it, making you the worst champion of all time. See how Wade fared this year as a leader of the Heat? Disgusting. Carmelo > LeBron >> Wade.
Bottom line, they still won. The refs cannot decide who wins the series. Your immaturity shows alot with that. Don't blame the refs for the players mistakes, that's a copout. Wade has taken his team farther than Melo or Lebron. Wade has stepped it up in the playoffs more than any of the 3. LeBron is still more skilled, just not as good of a team player as Wade is. And the Heat were disgusting...right. They still made the playoffs, might even win the 1st round. Wade was hurt again too this season. And also, what's with all the curses, kiddo? U mad?
Carmelo does NOT have a complete game yet. He doesn't have the long range shooting, is not as aggresive on d as he should, doesn't get his team involved as much, and the most important fact, is that he has yet to step it up in the playoffs.
As far as "your" explanation for Wade signature move, it's a good one. Fouls=FT's=points. Wade gets fouled going to the basket because he can't be stopped otherwise. There ya go, little guy.
LMFAO!
You just dissed Carmelo for "not having the long range shooting" in a Carmelo vs. Wade debate...HAHAHAHA. You automatically lose for that one, son. Honestly though, your argument of Wade winning a championship is a pretty pathetic one. Everyone knows of the screwjob that went down, and even if it wasnt because of the refs, Heat had a team geared to win, while Denver and Cleveland were still in their building stages last year...Please explain to me how the fuck that means Wade is better? You make no sense. Wade is shit. He can't even lead a team to an above .500 record...Shaq fell off MAJORLY, and it's STILL up for debate as to who's team it is. :-X
I know Wade doesn't have it that great form long range either, but it's not a big part of his game. Heat had a team geared to win because they had DWAYNE WADE. That's why. He is the best team player of the 2. Denver had a great team imo, and couldnt get it done.
Wade is shit?, you dont know your basketball, little boy. Everybody knows it's Wade's team, Shaq provides the perfect balance, and is still the nost dominating low post player in the NBA. One star won't win championships, you need 2. Part oif the reason why your team can't do shit in the playoffs. Wade still got his team there in an injury plagued season, he is the best 2 guard in the Eaast without a doubt.
Your still ignoring my player to player comparisons. Wade is the better player in terms of team work, team performance and comes a close second to Lebron in terms of all around skill. It's so easy to blame the refs, but again that is a copout on your part. Miami won that championship fair and square. Wade is the perfect player as long as he's not hurt, so they only thing he needs to do is toughen up. He really doesn't need the long range game yet because he cannot be stopped going to the basket.
Right now, Wade is the better of the big 3, and until Lebron and Carmelo can take there teams somewhere in the playoffs, he will remain the better of the 3. Also, Carmelo needs an a major attitude change before he can truly be a great player. It's hard to root for a coward like Melo, I'll still give him a 2nd chance but he is the least complete player out of the 3.
What are you saying? You replace Wade with Carmelo last year, and the Heat are just as geared to win. You replace Carmelo with Wade last year, and Denver still woulda' been in its building stages. Your arguments suck. Vince Carter is a better 2guard than Wade, that should tell you something. Carmelo is doing better for his team than Wade and LeBron are currently doing for theirs, so I really don't know what you're talking about. I'd be surprised if you've actually watched all 3 playing, or maybe you weren't paying attention?
Last but not least:
Miami won that championship fair and square. Wade is the perfect player
LMAO.
Put Wade on Denver last year, and they would have done something. replace Wade with Carmelo, and the Heat lose there balance. Wade is a TEAM player, I don't see what you don't get about that. I'm not trashing Melo, but he needs to mature, and improve on his teamwork before he can take a team past the 1st round.
Carmelo has a better team than he did last year, of course he helps his team, but you can't say he helps more than Lebron. Denver without Anthony is still a decent team, Cavs without Lebron, are terrible.
And as for Vince, he's on my squad, I'm at Nets games all year and I will gladly tell you that Wade is MUCH better. Carter has been know to settle for bullshit shots, and if he's not happy, his performance suffers from it. Wade on defense>>>Carter. Carter is a good fit for NJ, better than Wade, but Dwayne is such a better player. No one else arees with you, give it up kid.
No one agrees with me? Evidently, you haven't been reading these boards for long enough. Most of the posters here think Wade is an overrated primaddonna who gets way too many calls in his favor. The best part of his game is free throws...People who get their opinions from what the media tells them will say Wade is better. Educated basketball heads who know the game will tell you that Wade is not nearly as good as he's made out to be...PeACe
Guess I meant everybody in the thread. Also, point out where I started talking shit. All I said in my initial post was saying Wade is worse than Melo & Lebron would be an ignorant statement and that the person doesn't know b-ball like he says. You got super offended, and if the shoes fits....
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I don't even take the kid seriously, this thread is another attempt for him to bash LeBron and Wade since he thinks they take away from Kobe's fame and fortune.
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I don't even take the kid seriously, this thread is another attempt for him to bash LeBron and Wade since he thinks they take away from Kobe's fame and fortune.
I c. I made my point already, nothing else to say.
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Simply put, in my very valid opinion, Carmelo > LeBron & Wade...
What the fuck makes your opinion valid anymore than anybody elses?
You are always wrong about Kobe, now your wrong about this. You're a fucking tool.
Who said anything about being more valid? Pay attention or don't post...Especially if you have nothing useful to add.
Look ya dumb cock, you need to pay attention.
An opinion is an opinion. There's nothing valid about your opinion. You think since you sit on the couch in your underwear eating cheetos and watching NBA TV makes your opinions valid? Facts are valid. Opinions are just like assholes...you know the rest.
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If you think Wade is better than Carmelo, quote this.
IMO...anyone who doesn't think Carmelo>Wade was fooled. No need to get hurt over it, bitches.
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Since people wanna bring up stats:
Carmelo career stats:
PPG: 24.1
RPG: 5.7
APG: 2.9
TO: 3.06
MPG: 36.5
Wade career stats:
PPG: 23.8
RPG: 5.0
APG: 6.4
TO: 3.79
MPG: 37.6
Not comparable?. Now take into acount how much Melo improved his game this year. Denver is playing on SPURS level.
And how much more does Carmelo have to his game?
Better passer = Wade
Better rebounder = Carmelo
Better scorer = Carmelo
Better jumpshooter = Carmelo
Better defender = Carmelo
Better 3ball = Carmelo
Better free throws (Wade's specialty) = Carmelo
:-*
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Without Wade, Heat were doing better...
Without Melo, the Nuggets were DOOMED.
Anything else?
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People hate on Wade too much in this board. I'm not a fan of him, but you can't deny the fact he led the Heat to the PO in his rookie season, and he even make the clutch shot who gave the Heat the win in Game1 against the Hornets. His Heat reached the 2nd round ot he PO. In his second year he led the Heat to the Eastern Conference Finals, and finally in his 3rd year he won his first ring. You gotta respect that. You gotta respect Melo too. He led the Nuggets to the PO after a long time from his rookie year. And now his Nuggets are a contender team. He had good results. The only one couldn't lead his team to the PO was been LeBron, but now that the team is better his Cavs have the 2nd best record in the East. I mean those three players are very good players. But they are still too young to be compared to the best players in the NBA (Nash, Kobe, Dirk, Duncan, Shaq, etc..). We will see in the future which one will have a great career. The only thing i can say is that Wade has a ring. And you know, when you win a ring as the MVP it's a big argument.
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I remember before they got drafted I always said that Carmelo was gonna be better. I don't think he has been though.
Do you think Melo should've been rookie of the year? I've been having that debate since Lebron won it. Melo had the better stats and his team had the biggest turn around.
Yeah, I believe he should have won ROTY that year. Melo had the better all around season. Lebron won it that year because of all the hype around him.
Had he not pulled a Scottie Pippen a couple games/weeks before the season was over, he would have got the award. He deserved it too.
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If you think Wade is better than Carmelo, quote this.
IMO...anyone who doesn't think Carmelo>Wade was fooled. No need to get hurt over it, bitches.
See man, you always run your fucking mouth when you "think" something, but call other people bitches and whatever when they don't agree with something as ridiculous as this thread
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Still think Melo is better than Wade and Lebron? I think what was happening is you knew Lebron and Wade would threaten Kobe as the best in the league and it worried you.
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i HIGHLY disagree. :)
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Anyone disagree?
yeah me!
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:laugh:
Carmelo is WACK and always has been... especially today
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Since people wanna bring up stats:
Carmelo career stats:
PPG: 24.1
RPG: 5.7
APG: 2.9
TO: 3.06
MPG: 36.5
Wade career stats:
PPG: 23.8
RPG: 5.0
APG: 6.4
TO: 3.79
MPG: 37.6
Not comparable?. Now take into acount how much Melo improved his game this year. Denver is playing on SPURS level.
And how much more does Carmelo have to his game?
Better passer = Wade
Better rebounder = Carmelo
Better scorer = Carmelo
Better jumpshooter = Carmelo
Better defender = Carmelo
Better 3ball = Carmelo
Better free throws (Wade's specialty) = Carmelo
:-*
were those Stats I just saw up there? I guess its safe to say Lebron>Kobe this year now huh NIK?
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WOW NIK youz a foooooooooooooooooooool :laugh:
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Carmelo sux. Mad overrated
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Carmelo sux. Mad overrated
but hes a better scorer so he must be the better player right?
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Carmelo sux. Mad overrated
but hes a better scorer so he must be the better player right?
Not a better scorer though
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Carmelo sux. Mad overrated
but hes a better scorer so he must be the better player right?
Not a better scorer though
:D agreed
melo's a better rebounder...that's about it
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dont you guys see?
look at when the thread was made! :laugh:
around the time people were calling Wade one of the games elite and comparing him to the great players (Kobe esspecially).
like he was at the point where if you said Kobe is one, Wade is a CLOSE 2.
Melo, was a great talent who wasnt put in that elite category just yet, at that time. (just a step below)
so by (Laker) Law, NIK had to defend Kobe & made this thread. :P
then Wade had that off year & he kind of disappeared for most of the season.
so LeBron steps up & is now in some peoples mind, better than Kobe & MVP deserving, so now NIK is all over Wade, calling him AMAZING & MVP deserving, just to show that, LeBron isnt even second best.
good stuff, good stuff... :laugh:
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Carmelo sux. Mad overrated
but hes a better scorer so he must be the better player right?
Not a better scorer though
:D agreed
melo's a better rebounder...that's about it
Bron Bron is a better rebounder than Melo
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If you think Wade is better than Carmelo, quote this.
IMO...anyone who doesn't think Carmelo>Wade was fooled. No need to get hurt over it, bitches.
See man, you always run your fucking mouth when you "think" something, but call other people bitches and whatever when they don't agree with something as ridiculous as this thread
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Still think Melo is better than Wade and Lebron? I think what was happening is you knew Lebron and Wade would threaten Kobe as the best in the league and it worried you.
this is way back when Melo was better...Wade wasnt nearly as good as he is now and LeBron and Melo were always being compared at this point. nice try, though, nutrider.
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Since people wanna bring up stats:
Carmelo career stats:
PPG: 24.1
RPG: 5.7
APG: 2.9
TO: 3.06
MPG: 36.5
Wade career stats:
PPG: 23.8
RPG: 5.0
APG: 6.4
TO: 3.79
MPG: 37.6
Not comparable?. Now take into acount how much Melo improved his game this year. Denver is playing on SPURS level.
And how much more does Carmelo have to his game?
Better passer = Wade
Better rebounder = Carmelo
Better scorer = Carmelo
Better jumpshooter = Carmelo
Better defender = Carmelo
Better 3ball = Carmelo
Better free throws (Wade's specialty) = Carmelo
:-*
were those Stats I just saw up there? I guess its safe to say Lebron>Kobe this year now huh NIK?
read the first sentence in that post..."since people wanna bring up stats". i never used it as my argument.
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dont you guys see?
look at when the thread was made! :laugh:
around the time people were calling Wade one of the games elite and comparing him to the great players (Kobe esspecially).
wtf are u talkin about, moron? Wade is way better now than he was when I made this thread...LeBron was widely considered better than Wade at that point. your logic is flawed, as usual.
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Since people wanna bring up stats:
Carmelo career stats:
PPG: 24.1
RPG: 5.7
APG: 2.9
TO: 3.06
MPG: 36.5
Wade career stats:
PPG: 23.8
RPG: 5.0
APG: 6.4
TO: 3.79
MPG: 37.6
Not comparable?. Now take into acount how much Melo improved his game this year. Denver is playing on SPURS level.
And how much more does Carmelo have to his game?
Better passer = Wade
Better rebounder = Carmelo
Better scorer = Carmelo
Better jumpshooter = Carmelo
Better defender = Carmelo
Better 3ball = Carmelo
Better free throws (Wade's specialty) = Carmelo
:-*
were those Stats I just saw up there? I guess its safe to say Lebron>Kobe this year now huh NIK?
read the first sentence in that post..."since people wanna bring up stats". i never used it as my argument.
doesnt matter. You used em.
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dont you guys see?
look at when the thread was made! :laugh:
around the time people were calling Wade one of the games elite and comparing him to the great players (Kobe esspecially).
like he was at the point where if you said Kobe is one, Wade is a CLOSE 2.
Melo, was a great talent who wasnt put in that elite category just yet, at that time. (just a step below)
so by (Laker) Law, NIK had to defend Kobe & made this thread. :P
then Wade had that off year & he kind of disappeared for most of the season.
so LeBron steps up & is now in some peoples mind, better than Kobe & MVP deserving, so now NIK is all over Wade, calling him AMAZING & MVP deserving, just to show that, LeBron isnt even second best.
good stuff, good stuff... :laugh:
i don't care, anytime the last 3 years that anyone thought Lebron wasn't better than Carmelo deserves to be laughed at
NIK is my boy though...i just like to give him shit sometimes :D
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dont you guys see?
look at when the thread was made! :laugh:
around the time people were calling Wade one of the games elite and comparing him to the great players (Kobe esspecially).
wtf are u talkin about, moron? Wade is way better now than he was when I made this thread...LeBron was widely considered better than Wade at that point. your logic is flawed, as usual.
Wade was never better than the playoffs the year his team won the title (05?)
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dont you guys see?
look at when the thread was made! :laugh:
around the time people were calling Wade one of the games elite and comparing him to the great players (Kobe esspecially).
like he was at the point where if you said Kobe is one, Wade is a CLOSE 2.
Melo, was a great talent who wasnt put in that elite category just yet, at that time. (just a step below)
so by (Laker) Law, NIK had to defend Kobe & made this thread. :P
then Wade had that off year & he kind of disappeared for most of the season.
so LeBron steps up & is now in some peoples mind, better than Kobe & MVP deserving, so now NIK is all over Wade, calling him AMAZING & MVP deserving, just to show that, LeBron isnt even second best.
good stuff, good stuff... :laugh:
Exactly man. I've never upped an old thread or even looked at old ones, but it didn't take long to find MANY ridiculous NIK posts. He makes this shit too easy.
And agreed Hack- Wade was :o when he lead the Heat to the title. Yes, he got calls, but all stars do. He hit SO MANY clutch shots, he took an old ass team to that title. Major props to him.. And LOL at NIK coppin' pleas! THat dude uses stats when it supports his argument, but if they don't, he says he is right because he "feels" or "thinks" he is. I STILL think NIK is an alias or shock poster guys. TO post the things he does and say OTHERS lack bball knowledge? The only explanation is he is a shock poster who is just trying to get attention
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NIK = a shock poster who is just trying to get attention
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Since people wanna bring up stats:
Carmelo career stats:
PPG: 24.1
RPG: 5.7
APG: 2.9
TO: 3.06
MPG: 36.5
Wade career stats:
PPG: 23.8
RPG: 5.0
APG: 6.4
TO: 3.79
MPG: 37.6
Not comparable?. Now take into acount how much Melo improved his game this year. Denver is playing on SPURS level.
And how much more does Carmelo have to his game?
Better passer = Wade
Better rebounder = Carmelo
Better scorer = Carmelo
Better jumpshooter = Carmelo
Better defender = Carmelo
Better 3ball = Carmelo
Better free throws (Wade's specialty) = Carmelo
:-*
were those Stats I just saw up there? I guess its safe to say Lebron>Kobe this year now huh NIK?
Im not taking sides here, but he is comparing the players OVERALL in their OVERALL careers. No one said anything about just THIS year alone stats wise (in this post i mean)......
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I remember a couple of seasons ago Laker fans specifically one in particular said Wade was overrated and it was only a matter of time before his game got even worse. That same Laker fan also said Jordan Farmar would become a better player than Lebron back when Lebron was still in High School.
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Since people wanna bring up stats:
Carmelo career stats:
PPG: 24.1
RPG: 5.7
APG: 2.9
TO: 3.06
MPG: 36.5
Wade career stats:
PPG: 23.8
RPG: 5.0
APG: 6.4
TO: 3.79
MPG: 37.6
Not comparable?. Now take into acount how much Melo improved his game this year. Denver is playing on SPURS level.
And how much more does Carmelo have to his game?
Better passer = Wade
Better rebounder = Carmelo
Better scorer = Carmelo
Better jumpshooter = Carmelo
Better defender = Carmelo
Better 3ball = Carmelo
Better free throws (Wade's specialty) = Carmelo
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were those Stats I just saw up there? I guess its safe to say Lebron>Kobe this year now huh NIK?
Im not taking sides here, but he is comparing the players OVERALL in their OVERALL careers. No one said anything about just THIS year alone stats wise (in this post i mean)......
youre right. But even if youre arguing with NIK about whos better THIS year, and use Lebrons stats to show he is having a better year then Kobe, he will argue that stats mean nothing.
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I remember a couple of seasons ago Laker fans specifically one in particular said Wade was overrated and it was only a matter of time before his game got even worse. That same Laker fan also said Jordan Farmar would become a better player than Lebron back when Lebron was still in High School.
lol
well to be fair i remember back in 2003 or so i thought Lebron would be a huge bust too based on having too much hype
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and Wade couldn't shoot to save his life
http://www.youtube.com/v/ywqDhkbjRWo
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dont you guys see?
look at when the thread was made! :laugh:
around the time people were calling Wade one of the games elite and comparing him to the great players (Kobe esspecially).
wtf are u talkin about, moron? Wade is way better now than he was when I made this thread...LeBron was widely considered better than Wade at that point. your logic is flawed, as usual.
Wade was never better than the playoffs the year his team won the title (05?)
Wade is at his best right now.
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NIK = a shock poster who is just trying to get attention
this would be a legit post if I said Carmelo>LeBron & Wade nowadays...considering the three players were ALWAYS compared when I made this thread, it's you guys who are soundin stupid right about now...learn your basketball history, you dumbasses. there wasn't a big gap between wade, melo, and lebron 3 years ago.
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I remember a couple of seasons ago Laker fans specifically one in particular said Wade was overrated and it was only a matter of time before his game got even worse. That same Laker fan also said Jordan Farmar would become a better player than Lebron back when Lebron was still in High School.
if you're too pussy to call me out and you're talkin bout me, I never said that...LOL
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and Wade couldn't shoot to save his life
http://www.youtube.com/v/ywqDhkbjRWo
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...and? wade is still sub-par from three point range. LOL
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and Wade couldn't shoot to save his life
http://www.youtube.com/v/ywqDhkbjRWo
::)
...and? wade is still sub-par from three point range. LOL
so now you are on Carmelo's nuts ? :laugh:
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and Wade couldn't shoot to save his life
http://www.youtube.com/v/ywqDhkbjRWo
::)
...and? wade is still sub-par from three point range. LOL
so now you are on Carmelo's nuts ? :laugh:
look at the date of this thread, shitsmear
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and Wade couldn't shoot to save his life
http://www.youtube.com/v/ywqDhkbjRWo
::)
...and? wade is still sub-par from three point range. LOL
so now you are on Carmelo's nuts ? :laugh:
look at the date of this thread, shitsmear
ooooooh 2 years ago ::)
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and Wade couldn't shoot to save his life
http://www.youtube.com/v/ywqDhkbjRWo
::)
...and? wade is still sub-par from three point range. LOL
so now you are on Carmelo's nuts ? :laugh:
look at the date of this thread, shitsmear
ooooooh 2 years ago ::)
so how would i be on carmelos nuts NOW, ya dumb bitch?
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and Wade couldn't shoot to save his life
http://www.youtube.com/v/ywqDhkbjRWo
::)
...and? wade is still sub-par from three point range. LOL
so now you are on Carmelo's nuts ? :laugh:
look at the date of this thread, shitsmear
ooooooh 2 years ago ::)
so how would i be on carmelos nuts NOW, ya dumb bitch?
hey son of a camel,calm down.
before or now you still on his nuts
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^why do you have fags rubbin eachother in your sig, you homo?
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^why do you have fags rubbin eachother in your sig, you homo?
vanessa,go masturbate yourself over your new giant poster of kobe
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^why do you have fags rubbin eachother in your sig, you homo?
Your parents are fags
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2 replies to 1 = fail LOL
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2 replies to 1 = fail LOL
ok nerd
(http://www.exclaim.ca/images/up-camel_lrg.jpg)
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and Wade couldn't shoot to save his life
http://www.youtube.com/v/ywqDhkbjRWo
::)
...and? wade is still sub-par from three point range. LOL
so now you are on Carmelo's nuts ? :laugh:
no, still on Kobe's; Wade is just an excuse to take away from LeBron's greatness. ;D
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^why would i? wade is closer to kobe than lebron is.
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you are right:
michael jordan > jerry west > lebron james > kobe bryant > dewayne wade
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and Wade couldn't shoot to save his life
http://www.youtube.com/v/ywqDhkbjRWo
::)
...and? wade is still sub-par from three point range. LOL
so now you are on Carmelo's nuts ? :laugh:
no, still on Kobe's; Wade is just an excuse to take away from LeBron's greatness. ;D
lmao
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Bottom line:
This thread was made only two years ago, and at that time Carmelo was not on Lebron's level, and even at that time it was apparent he wasn't as good all around as Lebron and Wade.
I would go as far as to say Durant is already better than Anthony, and he is only a second year player.
Lebron and Wade are comparable but far and away better than Carmelo.
And NIK, with you obscene amount of posts, you should NEVER EVER mention someone's post count, got it? Keep it bball, forget that nerd shit.
All you had to do was ADMIT YOU WERE WRONG FOR MAKING THIS THREAD, but of course you are beneath that and all of your responses are so fucking predictable. I just upped this to give one of MANY examples when you expect posters on here to take your view as gospel and call others idiots or whatever, yet your views are WAY off the mark.
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NIK is busy
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Bottom line:
This thread was made only two years ago, and at that time Carmelo was not on Lebron's level, and even at that time it was apparent he wasn't as good all around as Lebron and Wade.
I would go as far as to say Durant is already better than Anthony, and he is only a second year player.
Lebron and Wade are comparable but far and away better than Carmelo.
And NIK, with you obscene amount of posts, you should NEVER EVER mention someone's post count, got it? Keep it bball, forget that nerd shit.
All you had to do was ADMIT YOU WERE WRONG FOR MAKING THIS THREAD, but of course you are beneath that and all of your responses are so fucking predictable. I just upped this to give one of MANY examples when you expect posters on here to take your view as gospel and call others idiots or whatever, yet your views are WAY off the mark.
LOL...you can say whatever you want, geek, but Melo, Wade, and LeBron were not on different levels at this time, and the three were often compared. btw, post count doesn't determine a nerd...it's the person you are. that's a common cop-out, though.
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Yes. Yes I disagree. People who follow sports will too.
Until then,
No More Nonsense.
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just thought I'd bump this old gem
Melo is cracking under pressure in NY
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just thought I'd bump this old gem
Melo is cracking under pressure in NY
Still on NIK's nuts, I see. Some things never change.
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just thought I'd bump this old gem
Melo is cracking under pressure in NY
Still on NIK's nuts, I see. Some things never change.
you insulted me
that hurt :(
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just thought I'd bump this old gem
Melo is cracking under pressure in NY
Still on NIK's nuts, I see. Some things never change.
you insulted me
that hurt :(
That's nothing compared to what the Lakers are going to do to the Celtics in June. ;)
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LOL I didn't know that Elano took a stab at talking basketball.
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It's funny seeing eliors posts from years past and he's still the exact same loser. I guess you shouldn't expect a person to grow when they are in thier mid 20s and still live with their parents
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upppp
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LOL I didn't know that Elano took a stab at talking basketball.
lolz
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LMFAO
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True NBA genius.
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this is back when Melo was way better, and LeBron+Wade still sucked bad on the defensive end....Right now, Melo aint even in the same ball-park as the NBA's best players.
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this is back when Melo was way better, and LeBron+Wade still sucked bad on the defensive end....Right now, Melo aint even in the same ball-park as the NBA's best players.
horrible excuse
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this is back when Melo was way better
LOL, I dont think that was ever the case bro...Give your head a shake
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this is back when Melo was way better
LOL, I dont think that was ever the case bro...Give your head a shake
read the first few pages of this thread, other peeps agreed....this is 5 years old. back then, these three were ALWAYS compared. if u dont remember, brush up on ur b-ball history.
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Yes...me and about 95% of NBA fans with at least 10 IQ points
I remember before they got drafted I always said that Carmelo was gonna be better. I don't think he has been though.
Lebron is the better all around player, and Melo got the best overall offensive game.. he can attack the basket, got a good mid-range game.. anyways the World Championship was a proof of that.. Wade is very good at attacking the basket , a good passer and a good help on weak side Defender.. but no outside game at all ..
Simply put, in my very valid opinion, Carmelo > LeBron & Wade...
What the fuck makes your opinion valid anymore than anybody elses?
You are always wrong about Kobe, now your wrong about this. You're a fucking tool.
who the fuck is agreeing with u jewboy
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this is back when Melo was way better
LOL, I dont think that was ever the case bro...Give your head a shake
read the first few pages of this thread, other peeps agreed....this is 5 years old. back then, these three were ALWAYS compared. if u dont remember, brush up on ur b-ball history.
LOL @ you telliing me to brush on my history, son. I cant take you serious after the 1000's of rediculous threads and statements youve made, like this one.
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this thread can basically be summed up by the first two posts in it.
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LOL, for real. There was no point where Melo was better. There was just a point where both LeBron & Wade were compared to Kobe in his prime & it bothered you so you had to attempt to belittle.
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LOL, for real. There was no point where Melo was better. There was just a point where both LeBron & Wade were compared to Kobe in his prime & it bothered you so you had to attempt to belittle.
yep
lebron in his 3rd year was a top 3 player in the game
melo has never been a top 5 player
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Carmelo is going to end up being the next Tracy Mcgrady/Vince Carter
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Melo has disappeared. He's just lazy as fuck. He doesn't even see eye to eye with D'antoni.
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Melo has disappeared. He's just lazy as fuck. He doesn't even see eye to eye with D'antoni.
i wouldnt be surprised one bit if they tried to trade his ass lmao
but hes probably got a no trade clause
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Imo I'd put Melo and Bron on the same level then Wade, it's true Melo is slept on when you compare it to all the hype Wade and Bron have..
He's got certain aspects of his game that are better than the 2, better clutch player than Lebron, but not Wade. Anthony has power and viciousness that Wade and James don't have, but Lebron is a better playmaker, and Wade is just a step ahead of Melo.
Honestly, I couldn't pick the best out of the 3,
Carmelo is bigger so theres really no comparsion
those three players are very good players. But they are still too young to be compared to the best players in the NBA (Nash, Kobe, Dirk, Duncan, Shaq, etc..). We will see in the future which one will have a great career
just thought I'd bump this old gem
Melo is cracking under pressure in NY
Still on NIK's nuts, I see. Some things never change.
LOL....the nutriders lose again.
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you quote someone who says "i cant pick the best out of the 3"
lmao what a herb
and also what does quoting someone who says Melo is bigger have anything to do with him being a better player?
silly jews
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Melo has disappeared. He's just lazy as fuck. He doesn't even see eye to eye with D'antoni.
i wouldnt be surprised one bit if they tried to trade his ass lmao
but hes probably got a no trade clause
He doesn't.
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Imo I'd put Melo and Bron on the same level then Wade, it's true Melo is slept on when you compare it to all the hype Wade and Bron have..
He's got certain aspects of his game that are better than the 2, better clutch player than Lebron, but not Wade. Anthony has power and viciousness that Wade and James don't have, but Lebron is a better playmaker, and Wade is just a step ahead of Melo.
Honestly, I couldn't pick the best out of the 3,
Carmelo is bigger so theres really no comparsion
those three players are very good players. But they are still too young to be compared to the best players in the NBA (Nash, Kobe, Dirk, Duncan, Shaq, etc..). We will see in the future which one will have a great career
just thought I'd bump this old gem
Melo is cracking under pressure in NY
Still on NIK's nuts, I see. Some things never change.
LOL....the nutriders lose again.
none of those agree with you wtf. they just say that they are close at best.
only time Melo could be considered better was his rookie season. melo was always a worse defender than both no idea where u got that idea from. Both have better shot selection and bron is better at everything that melo at this point. With all your "foresight" that you have when it comes to shit like Bynum you can't say here "oh well it was debatable back then" you can't say you know every fucking thing and like you are the smartest mother fucker ever and then back down when you were wrong.
lmao...what are u talkin about? my nutriders were actin like this was a ridiculous claim, when it's OBVIOUS that these three were ALWAYS compared back then, and all on the same level. if peeps are saying "i cant pick the best out of the three", that just goes to show that there is nothing ridiculous about this claim, which i made 5 YEARS AGO. right now, Melo fell off bad, and he has been suckin ass this year, but when I made this thread, Melo was playin great, Denver was a contender in the west, while Cleveland and Miami were struggling to compete with the best teams in the league. there was a point in time where all were on the same level.....and i dunno if u were watching basketball back then, but Bron and Wade were regarded as horrible defenders back then, as well. it's not until they asked Kobe for help on their defense (while they played for TEAM USA) that they began improving in that aspect of their game. anyways.....how old are u? 18? so u were 13 when this thread was made LOL
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Imo I'd put Melo and Bron on the same level then Wade, it's true Melo is slept on when you compare it to all the hype Wade and Bron have..
He's got certain aspects of his game that are better than the 2, better clutch player than Lebron, but not Wade. Anthony has power and viciousness that Wade and James don't have, but Lebron is a better playmaker, and Wade is just a step ahead of Melo.
Honestly, I couldn't pick the best out of the 3,
Carmelo is bigger so theres really no comparsion
those three players are very good players. But they are still too young to be compared to the best players in the NBA (Nash, Kobe, Dirk, Duncan, Shaq, etc..). We will see in the future which one will have a great career
just thought I'd bump this old gem
Melo is cracking under pressure in NY
Still on NIK's nuts, I see. Some things never change.
LOL....the nutriders lose again.
none of those agree with you wtf. they just say that they are close at best.
only time Melo could be considered better was his rookie season. melo was always a worse defender than both no idea where u got that idea from. Both have better shot selection and bron is better at everything that melo at this point. With all your "foresight" that you have when it comes to shit like Bynum you can't say here "oh well it was debatable back then" you can't say you know every fucking thing and like you are the smartest mother fucker ever and then back down when you were wrong.
lmao...what are u talkin about? my nutriders were actin like this was a ridiculous claim, when it's OBVIOUS that these three were ALWAYS compared back then, and all on the same level. if peeps are saying "i cant pick the best out of the three", that just goes to show that there is nothing ridiculous about this claim, which i made 5 YEARS AGO. right now, Melo fell off bad, and he has been suckin ass this year, but when I made this thread, Melo was playin great, Denver was a contender in the west, while Cleveland and Miami were struggling to compete with the best teams in the league. there was a point in time where all were on the same level.....and i dunno if u were watching basketball back then, but Bron and Wade were regarded as horrible defenders back then. it's not until they asked Kobe for help on their defense while they played for TEAM USA that they began improving in that aspect of their game. anyways.....how old are u? 18? so u were 13 when this thread was made. LOL.
19 and i was 15 so yes i was watching lmfao yep i'm sure Kobe was the one who fixed everything like always.
lmfao when did you start watching basketball? i been watching since i was damn near born. even if i was 13 i would be knowing whats up. I thought melo was better his rookie season. after that it was obvious.
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still waiting to hear how Carmelo has ever been a better defender
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still waiting to hear how Carmelo has ever been a better defender
LOL, I pray to God that wasn't said for NIK's sake.
& way to quote all the hardcore Laker stans of Dubcc five years ago.
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out of the people quoted, only 1 was a Laker fan.... and LOL@these kids (cham and rayellen) too young to remember when LeBron was regarded as a TERRIBLE defender.
hack gets a pass, cuz he's retarded
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out of the people quoted, only 1 was a Laker fan.... and LOL@these kids (cham and rayellen) too young to remember when LeBron was regarded as a TERRIBLE defender.
hack gets a pass, cuz he's retarded
lmfao if at 15 you didnt follow basketball thats sad with all the shit you talk. Yes i do remember actually but 1. it wasn't kobe who fixed that LMFAO. 2. was never as poor as melo.
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glad i get a pass :)
now back to the discussion, Carmelo has never been known for playing a lick of defense in his career
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lebron and wade were huge gamblers early on in their career, always going for impossible steals+weakside blocks and constantly getting beat by their man........melo was never a good defender either, but the difference was that he typically stayed in front of his man and wasn't always gambling on plays ala lebron and wade early on.
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lebron and wade were huge gamblers early on in their career, always going for impossible steals+weakside blocks and constantly getting beat by their man........melo was never a good defender either, but the difference was that he typically stayed in front of his man and wasn't always gambling on plays ala lebron and wade early on.
so are you finally admitting that Lebron and Wade are better than Carmelo?
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wcsoldier, Antonio_ & Teddy Roosevelt are all Laker fans. So now you're just blatantly lying lmao. You're an idiot, a hater & have no clue what you're talking about with your thick bias blocking your vision.
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wcsoldier, Antonio_ & Teddy Roosevelt are all Laker fans. So now you're just blatantly lying lmao. You're an idiot, a hater & have no clue what you're talking about with your thick bias blocking your vision.
it sure ain't his eye brows blocking his vision :D
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lebron and wade were huge gamblers early on in their career, always going for impossible steals+weakside blocks and constantly getting beat by their man........melo was never a good defender either, but the difference was that he typically stayed in front of his man and wasn't always gambling on plays ala lebron and wade early on.
so are you finally admitting that Lebron and Wade are better than Carmelo?
Good job, hack.... Pat urself on the back