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Title: Still Fly by BigTymers and about Nelly
Post by: budsmokeronly on June 27, 2002, 05:40:00 AM
Yo I hate 99% of that commercial bullshit rap, I usually would never listen to this crap, but I been listening to power 106 everyday and this song comes on quite often and I got to admit that I think it is pretty dope.  Also the beat that the cash money click hooked up for connected 4 life is really dope too.  Also I never really heard Nelly too much before cause I would never take the time to d/l a song of his, and I would never spend a dime on an album of his.  But I also been hearin Nelly on the radio, and I just don't get it.  This guy is fucking horrible, straight garbage.  IMO he is one of the worst rappers ever.  Thank god Warren didn't do that remix of ghetto village with Nelly.  At least Warren ain't a sell out, much props to warren for that.
Title: Re: Still Fly by BigTymers and about Nelly
Post by: 4 KiN L on June 27, 2002, 07:45:22 AM
But not all commercial rap is bullshit, and u only brand it bullshit because it's commercial, without ever takin' time to review whats could be good about them.

and IMO nelly isn't too good, but he isn't one of the worst ever rappaz, quite far from that actually.
Title: Re: Still Fly by BigTymers and about Nelly
Post by: budsmokeronly on June 27, 2002, 07:53:37 AM
I am just stating my opinion.  I am really picky about rap, and in my opinion Nelly is one of the worst rappers I have ever heard.  If you like that commercial rap that is fine, I just can't stand it.
Title: Re: Still Fly by BigTymers and about Nelly
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on June 27, 2002, 08:10:23 AM
Nelly is GARBO


The first time I heard "Take my Clothes Off" my ears started bleeding...
Title: Re: Still Fly by BigTymers and about Nelly
Post by: kuniver on June 27, 2002, 08:30:24 AM
you people are too critical and cant give props where props are due, this guy has gone plat. with all both albums he has released, i mean he sure as hell is not best rapper but he sure is better than you Now I Know.. "Hot In Herre" is a good party cut, oh i forgot, your still a little kid, you wouldnt know too mcuh about that..
Title: Re: Still Fly by BigTymers and about Nelly
Post by: smartass on June 27, 2002, 10:13:54 AM
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you people are too critical and cant give props where props are due, this guy has gone plat. with all both albums he has released, i mean he sure as hell is not best rapper but he sure is better than you Now I Know.. "Hot In Herre" is a good party cut, oh i forgot, your still a little kid, you wouldnt know too mcuh about that..

record sales don't mean shit.
Title: Re: Still Fly by BigTymers and about Nelly
Post by: Sikotic™ on June 27, 2002, 12:10:45 PM
All commercial music isn't shit, don't get it twisted.
Title: Re: Still Fly by BigTymers and about Nelly
Post by: kuniver on June 27, 2002, 01:22:08 PM
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record sales don't mean shit.


It did to TUPAC...
Title: Re: Still Fly by BigTymers and about Nelly
Post by: Quadruple OG on June 28, 2002, 04:15:14 AM
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you people are too critical and cant give props where props are due, this guy has gone plat. with all both albums he has released, i mean he sure as hell is not best rapper but he sure is better than you Now I Know.. "Hot In Herre" is a good party cut, oh i forgot, your still a little kid, you wouldnt know too mcuh about that..


agree, as long as your wit a gyrl when the song comes on, doesn't really matter.  but if I'm at home or in my car, I don't listen to Band Aid Bitch
Title: Re: Still Fly by BigTymers and about Nelly
Post by: DJ_Jay_Deee on June 28, 2002, 05:34:27 AM
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you people are too critical and cant give props where props are due, this guy has gone plat. with all both albums he has released, i mean he sure as hell is not best rapper but he sure is better than you Now I Know.. "Hot In Herre" is a good party cut, oh i forgot, your still a little kid, you wouldnt know too mcuh about that..

Who bought Nelly's albums? Teenyboppers. Sales don't mean shit when it comes to judging REAL hip hop. When you make hip hop for the money, thats when you have sold out. You make hip hop for the love of the music not for money!
Title: Re: Still Fly by BigTymers and about Nelly
Post by: kuniver on June 28, 2002, 06:55:10 AM
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Who bought Nelly's albums? Teenyboppers. Sales don't mean shit when it comes to judging REAL hip hop. When you make hip hop for the money, thats when you have sold out. You make hip hop for the love of the music not for money!

I bought his album and i aint no teeny bopper, and yes sales does matter.. and the kinda shit you are talking about dont exist no more.. everybody comes in the rap game looking for money..
Title: Re: Still Fly by BigTymers and about Nelly
Post by: Siberian_Wolf on June 28, 2002, 07:06:10 AM
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Who bought Nelly's albums? Teenyboppers. Sales don't mean shit when it comes to judging REAL hip hop. When you make hip hop for the money, thats when you have sold out. You make hip hop for the love of the music not for money!



Ask real rappers about it. They make music for the love of music, but they expect to get what they deserve. You cant just make music and make like $100 a month and stay happy. Ask Defari, Craig Mack, Tracey Lee, CL Smooth, Das EFX, ask Cool Breeze, Killah Priest. They've been makin music for some time but now they 're either out of business or completely forgotten. You gotta get paid to stay free.
Title: Re: Still Fly by BigTymers and about Nelly
Post by: smartass on June 28, 2002, 07:09:14 AM
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I bought his album and i aint no teeny bopper, and yes sales does matter.. and the kinda shit you are talking about dont exist no more.. everybody comes in the rap game looking for money..


after saying that you must've started listening to big l once he died right?

lol
Title: Re: Still Fly by BigTymers and about Nelly
Post by: budsmokeronly on June 28, 2002, 07:34:26 AM
thats complete bullshit that rappers don't make music for the love of it.  Do you see daz dillinger selling out?  How about Warren G?  Tha Eastsidaz?  C-Bo?  Mac Dre?  I could go on and on, there are still plenty of rappers who keep it real and don't gotta sell out and go commercial.
Title: Re: Still Fly by BigTymers and about Nelly
Post by: kuniver on June 28, 2002, 08:38:57 AM
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thats complete bullshit that rappers don't make music for the love of it.  Do you see daz dillinger selling out?  How about Warren G?  Tha Eastsidaz?  C-Bo?  Mac Dre?  I could go on and on, there are still plenty of rappers who keep it real and don't gotta sell out and go commercial.  

Yes its hard to believe, but rappers are in this for the money..
the reason why they cant go commericial is because they cant and nobody is feeling their style, Warren G has tried it, Daz Dillenger has tried over and over again, C-Bo and Mac Dre?? they are talented and im sure they cant to go commercial and Tha Eastsidaz havent gone commercial??? please... basically everybody in the rap game is in this for the money because how else are they going to make a living?

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after saying that you must've started listening to big l once he died right?  

lol

and let me guess, you have been listening to Big L since he came out in '95 with Lifestylez Ov' Da Poor and Dangerous?
Title: Re: Still Fly by BigTymers and about Nelly
Post by: smartass on June 28, 2002, 10:12:18 AM
i've been listening to l since i heard him on the yes you may remix w/ lord finesse.
Title: Re: Still Fly by BigTymers and about Nelly
Post by: budsmokeronly on June 28, 2002, 01:07:55 PM
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Yes its hard to believe, but rappers are in this for the money..
the reason why they cant go commericial is because they cant and nobody is feeling their style, Warren G has tried it, Daz Dillenger has tried over and over again, C-Bo and Mac Dre?? they are talented and im sure they cant to go commercial and Tha Eastsidaz havent gone commercial please... basically everybody in the rap game is in this for the money because how else are they going to make a living?


Of course every rapper wants to make money, why would they not.  But wanting to make money off records and going commercial are two totally different things.  How can you say Daz or Warren G have gone commercial.  If they had gone commercial you would hear there shit being played like 10-15 times a day on radio stations across the country.  I have yet to even hear Daz new single on the radio here in cali, and I have never heard anything from return of the regulator on the radio.  Their vidz would be all over the trl rotation on mtv.  I never watch mtv, but I highly doubt their vidz get played much if at all.  And you think Tray D and Goldie Loc have gone commercial ??? Please!  They represent gangsta more than almost anyone in the rap game.  Snoop pulls some commercial type shit with them, but them by themselves are nowhere near commercial.  Just listen to Goldie Loc's solo album, or Take Cover,  or any of Tray d's songs.  And I am not even gonna get into mac dre or c-bo.
Title: Re: Still Fly by BigTymers and about Nelly
Post by: kuniver on June 28, 2002, 07:48:03 PM
obviously you werent around when "Regulators" came out then.. .and fuck, WARREN G and DAZ CANT GO COMMERCIAL, NOBODY IS FEELING THEIR SHIT, I HATE TO SAY IT BUT ITS THE DAMN TRUTH!... man you get caught up into the music, just cuz they rap it means they do it in real life..
Title: Re: Still Fly by BigTymers and about Nelly
Post by: Pillow on June 28, 2002, 09:28:57 PM
FUCK COMMERICAL RAP and FUCK U ^^. i have been raping for 1 year now and not once have i wrote shit about the ice on my neck or the car i drive, i keep it real because i love making music. fuck the money, it would be nice to make more off it but its not worth the money to sell out and rap about garbagge. i make a living by working, not rapping, rapping is something i love and do on the side, if some 1 signs me i aint selling out for shit
Title: Re: Still Fly by BigTymers and about Nelly
Post by: =[Euthanasia]= on June 29, 2002, 01:00:25 AM
SALES DON'T MEAN SHIT! If an artist/group I love sells double/triple platinum then it's all good but the difference with me is I don't support acts that only make music to chart and I don't support acts just because they sell good, fuck that, I want someone who makes music for themselves and stays true to their roots. 2Pac for instance, he never sold out, he never would and he sold like a muthfucka because fans like me know whats real and whats fake and manufactured, if you will. I could name a 100+ rappers/groups that are tighter than Nelly but don't sell as well, so at the end of the day it's not about quantity, it's about quality. Nelly may sell, good for him, I wish him well, but as far as quality goes he doesn't have what i'm looking for which is originality, creativity, meaning and heart.
Title: Re: Still Fly by BigTymers and about Nelly
Post by: DJ_Jay_Deee on June 29, 2002, 01:00:30 AM
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Ask real rappers about it. They make music for the love of music, but they expect to get what they deserve. You cant just make music and make like $100 a month and stay happy. Ask Defari, Craig Mack, Tracey Lee, CL Smooth, Das EFX, ask Cool Breeze, Killah Priest. They've been makin music for some time but now they 're either out of business or completely forgotten. You gotta get paid to stay free.

Yeah i know that. But u should make the music cause you love it and you want to let people hear you're talent. Who cares if your poor as long as you are doing what you love. Money doesn't bring happiness.
Title: Re: Still Fly by BigTymers and about Nelly
Post by: kuniver on June 30, 2002, 07:15:32 PM
Everybody works for money, nothing for free.. simple as that, you could make music cuz you love it, but your going to want a reward in return...
Title: Re: Still Fly by BigTymers and about Nelly
Post by: Pillow on June 30, 2002, 08:09:47 PM
the music is the reward man.......
Title: Re: Still Fly by BigTymers and about Nelly
Post by: budsmokeronly on July 01, 2002, 08:14:38 AM
Kuniver, from the way your posts read, it seems like you think if a rapper wants to make money then they are commercial.  That is just ignorance.  I gaurantee you every single rapper wants to make money, no matter what they say or however underground they are.  Shit some of the hardest gangsta rappers are the ones out for the most money.  They are hustler's man.  How can you even compare regulate to any kind of commercial crap put out nowadays.  That is straight up disrespectful man.  Get your head on straight.  You say nobody is feeling DAz and Warren's shit.  Well I am for sure, and I know a lot of peeps on this forum are too.  The reason why you think no one is feeling them is because they are not commercial.  Mostly only commercial rappers sell a lot of albums nowadays cause there are so many busta ass faggets nowadays.  And many of the same peeps who buy Nelly, Ja rule and that other fagget shit also buy Nsnyc, Britney Spears, Bow Wow, Limp Biskuit, and crap like that.  Shit if Daz or Warren changed their music to that sell out bling bling, pop crap I gaurantee they would sell at least twice as much as they do.  But see they are not commercial and they stay true to the music they and their real fans love.