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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: acbaylove on April 17, 2005, 02:26:51 PM
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8. Cleveland 40-40
x. New Jersey 39-40
You gotta be kidding me!! Boston, Washington, Philadelphia, Chicago, Indiana with all its problems, and shit maybe New Jersey will make the Play Offs in the Eastern Conference and the guy supposed to be "the next/better than" Jordan, with a teammate like All Star's Zydrunas Ilgauskas and a pretty good team surrounding him.. he can't carry his team ahead those wack teams to reach a Play Offs spot?
What's wrong with him? Should we only blame the teammates? Cause damn, you all dissed the fuck out of Kobe for the Lakers not making the Play-Offs, and Lakers have just 1 All Star player instead of 2, and they play in the Western Conference instead than in the Eastern one. Reading your comments it looks like LeBron is 10x better than Kobe and like LeBron is the future. Facts are that Melo carried his team in the Play Offs twice and LeBron is risking to do a 0-2 in the wackest Conference!
x. L.A. Lakers 34-45 (but they just dont care no more, so they're keep loosing..)
They aint that far away.
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he's ok team player, he just can't make the others around him better, like Jordan did
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he's ok team player, he just can't make the others around him better, like Jordan did
I'm not questioning his skills, but the "making the others around him better" quality.
I know Shaq is the n.1 in the League in it.
Nash and Kidd are great too.
Lebron?
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he's ok team player, he just can't make the others around him better, like Jordan did
I'm not questioning his skills, but the "making the others around him better" quality.
I know Shaq is the n.1 in the League in it.
Nash and Kidd are great too.
Lebron?
LOL....he's 20!! The only bad thing Lebron has done is set his bar too damm high. Last year, people were seriously doubting if he'd even average a good 10-12 points a game. The stats he's puttin up are better than most 25 and 30 year olds in the game. The coaching and all else has to be present for a team to do good. The team havin good players alone isn't enough. Jordan didn't learn how to make his team better until he was 28 or so. Lebron is doin an amazing job right now for his age, and he has still made players around him better. They were doin real good, but with all the drama goin on behind the scenes as far as coaching and ownership goes, it's hard for a team to keep doin good. Also, he doesn't have much experience, and he is still not as clutch as he'll need to be. Give him a chance to succeed, don't knock him this early.
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I'm not knocking him this early, i really think he got game. But i think media hyped him too much without knowing if he's really a winner or if he's just another Tracy McGrady. "He's still 20!", that's the thing i'm keep reading as the excuse. Ok, but he wasnt even 20 when he was selected for the All Star game. He wasnt even 20 when he was selected to play in the Olympic US Team, returning home with no-golden medal. He wasnt even 20 when he signed that monster contract with Nike. So fuck age! If he's 20, then we should consider him like a good promising 20 years old guy.
Melo was 19 when he won the NCAA and he was 20 when he carried Denver over his shoulders last year, till the Play Offs. And he's doing it again at 21.
Wade was 22 when he carried Miami over his shoulders last year, advancing in the Play Offs. He's 23 now and he'll probably win his first ring.
Kobe was 23 when he first won a ring. Then 24. Then 25.
Magic was 19 when he won the NCAA and he was 20 when he won his first title playing Center. Then he was 21. 22. etc..
Bird was 24 when he won the title.
Etc..
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IM STILL 19!! AND I AINT A MILLIONAIRE LIKE THESES PUNKS, aLL THEY DO IS SHOOT A BALL IN A BASKET, DAMN IM JEALOUS!!!
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8. Cleveland 40-40
x. New Jersey 39-40
You gotta be kidding me!! Boston, Washington, Philadelphia, Chicago, Indiana with all its problems, and shit maybe New Jersey will make the Play Offs in the Eastern Conference and the guy supposed to be "the next/better than" Jordan, with a teammate like All Star's Zydrunas Ilgauskas and a pretty good team surrounding him.. he can't carry his team ahead those wack teams to reach a Play Offs spot?
They aint that far away.
Do you know how long it took MJ to get Chicago in the playoffs? Let alone win a first round series? Gimme a break man, this has nothing to do with comparing the 2 players....Plus LeBron is still only 19 or 20 now and Jordan didnt enter the league until he was 23.
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LOL...hahahahhahahah..
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LMAO AT MELO CARRYING HIS TEAM..get the fuck out of here with that bullshit..lmao antonio...Melo aint doing shit, look at HIS TEAM, they got a better supporting cast for melo than they do in Cleveland..and the coach is better. Cav's changed their coach like 15 games ago? Jesus, I thought you knew shit about basketball antonio...lol, guess i was wrong
He's fuckin 20 years old, averaging 27 points, 7.2 assists, 7.2 rebounds, which is fuckin insane, I think Jordan had a 25,7,7 just once in his career....PLUS LEBRON is A 475% shooter, 3rd in the nba with steals....
From the games i've watched this year from the cav's...its that they die in the 3rd Quarter..then make a 4th quarter come back..and sometimes end up short
Lebron has another few years to win the NBA championship. Im thinking the way Cleveland is, he probably wont win a title till he's 27-28, then if they get the right cast, i can see Lebron winning a couple of more. I still believe they'll make the playoffs.
Oh BTW....Lakers are 13-17 vs the east..Cavs are 16-14 versus the West ;D ;D ;D
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Ya'll Kobe marks crack me up.
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^^LOL...I don't understand...Kobe's playing for basically an expansion team with an assistant coach leading them who not only have 0 stars (other than Kobe), but have currently been playing without their second best player (Odom), and have been missing players throughout the season (Deavan George, Vlade Divac, Brian Grant, Kobe Bryant, Jumain Jones, Chris Mihm... shit, they've all been injured.)...Now on the other hand, you have LeBron James, a superstar with another superstar on his team and a good supporting cast who's been dubbed the next Michael Jordan and is already being called better than Kobe when he ain't even on Carter status...They both aren't making the playoffs, but only one is being hated on...Am I the only one who can see?
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LMAO AT MELO CARRYING HIS TEAM..
HAHAHAHAHAH OK i wrote it just to provoke you all! ;D ;)
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^^LOL...I don't understand...Kobe's playing for basically an expansion team with an assistant coach leading them who not only have 0 stars (other than Kobe), but have currently been playing without their second best player (Odom), and have been missing players throughout the season (Deavan George, Vlade Divac, Brian Grant, Kobe Bryant, Jumain Jones, Chris Mihm... shit, they've all been injured.)...Now on the other hand, you have LeBron James, a superstar with another superstar on his team and a good supporting cast who's been dubbed the next Michael Jordan and is already being called better than Kobe when he ain't even on Carter status...They both aren't making the playoffs, but only one is being hated on...Am I the only one who can see?
That's exactly what i mean. Like i said dude got game. He's probably the closest thing to Jordan ever existed at 19. But my point is that he still gotta prove everything in his career. He still gotta prove me he can carry a team over his shoulder in the last 10 games of the season (Cavs are 3-7 in the last 10). He still gotta prove me he can get other teammates involved when he's not shooting well (4th in the league for turnovers). He still gotta prove me he can take all the responsabilities of a defeat like a real leader should do (i wanna see his interview the day it will be official he'll not make the Play Offs). He still gotta prove me he can play with another superstar in his team without being jealous and without beefing with him (it's too easy to be the 1st and 2nd and 3rd star in you own team!). He still gotta prove me he can play the Play Offs. He still gotta prove me he can win an International competition against European teams who actually defends 10x better than they do in the NBA. He still gotta prove me he aint a bluff. Maybe he will do it. That's what i wish him. But right now he's just a very talented SG who's still in the process of learning how to play in the NBA. Nothing more. I'd put Reggie Miller over this dude all day all night.
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Oh BTW....Lakers are 13-17 vs the east..Cavs are 16-14 versus the West ;D ;D ;D
Both are in the same situation of Toronto, New York, Milwaukee, Orlando, Charlotte, Atlanta, Minnesota, Portland, Utah, Clippers, Golden State & New Orleans. No. Worse. Cause they'll have less chance to get a good draft pick. That's the saddest truth!
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The team is just not getting its stuff together at the moment, it is that simple. Coaching problems and shit. Garnett doesnt make the playoffs neither, and look at the change Denver made when the coach has been exchanged. Cavs were #2 of the EC for a long ass time. Now they barely make #8. Denver was horrible before Karl and has been the best team in the NBA since Karl came. A good coach can't change the potential of a team and its players, which Cavs don't lack, but he can make them to get their fucking shit together, and this is what the current Cav staff isnt doing right now. I still think they make the playoffs. Toronto isnt too tough to beat. Fucked up though, if they had #6, they would play vs Boston which would be really easy, compared to Detroit or Miami. First round out in 4 games vs. Miami, that's my prediction.
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The team is just not getting its stuff together at the moment, it is that simple. Coaching problems and shit. Garnett doesnt make the playoffs neither, and look at the change Denver made when the coach has been exchanged. Cavs were #2 of the EC for a long ass time. Now they barely make #8. Denver was horrible before Karl and has been the best team in the NBA since Karl came. A good coach can't change the potential of a team and its players, which Cavs don't lack, but he can make them to get their fucking shit together, and this is what the current Cav staff isnt doing right now.
Ok so now i know why the Lakers didnt make the Play Offs. Thank God i'm happier now. We just miss Phil.
With a better coach, like Phil, Lakers should really have been able to make at least fucking spot 8. The problem is not that they didnt make it, the problem is that they won the western conference finals last year and now they are a plain joke. That's not to blame on the coach. But with Phil, they would have made the playoffs I think. Not being a contender or a feared them or anything to that degree, far from it. But at least make the playoffs and lose every game in round 1, that would have been realistic.
I still think they make the playoffs. Toronto isnt too tough to beat. Fucked up though, if they had #6, they would play vs Boston which would be really easy, compared to Detroit or Miami. First round out in 4 games vs. Miami, that's my prediction.
Man right now they are out the Play Offs. It's all up to New Jersey now. If they win they in. Game over.
Oh shit youre right :o :( :-\
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Shit i've deleted my last post. Well you quoted it, so it's ok.
With a better coach, like Phil, Lakers should really have been able to make at least fucking spot 8. The problem is not that they didnt make it, the problem is that they won the western conference finals last year and now they are a plain joke. That's not to blame on the coach. But with Phil, they would have made the playoffs I think. Not being a contender or a feared them or anything to that degree, far from it. But at least make the playoffs and lose every game in round 1, that would have been realistic.
I agree. But look, the problem is that people forgot Lakers changed 10 players out of 12 this year. It's not the same team of last year less Shaq. It's totally a new team with 10 new players. A new PG, a new SF, a new PF, a new C, 6 new bench players, a new coach, another new coach replacing him. That's why i disagree with all this hating on Kobe. Not even Jordan was able to make the Bulls a contender team with 10 new players from a month to the other. Buss chosed to totally re-build the team. Nobody was expecting them to win the title this year. But yes, the plot was to make the Play-Offs. They failed. But like you said there are a lot of things to explain it, and none of them is called Kobe Bryant. We can blame Rudy T retiring, Hamblen not being Phil, Divac and George missing the whole season, Kobe being injured 20+ games, Odom being injured 10+ games, Butler and Mihm being injured, Grant being useless.. Kobe is the last one to blame, imo. In the same way, LeBron is the last one to blame. But shit, i'm just saying media made him MJ already, but he cant still be compared to Reggie Miller and Carter.
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Try to imagine LeBron being a nobody as a rookie, 20th pick or so lol - and then playing like this. I don't know what people would say. Fact is, he has been so damn hyped before he even scored his first point in the NBA.... this leads to advantages and disadvantages. One disadvantage is the embarrassment when his team won't make the playoffs. He never even attended a dunking contest because the pressure was so high that not winning it would have been an insane embarrassment, and he's still a kid, not much older than me LMAO. Not leading the team to the playoffs is really disappointing, I so didnt see this comin when they were #2 in the east and alive and kicking. But hell, one thing is sure though, he achieved great stats and I saw a lot of great plays by him, so what the hell. Maybe he can change the team after next season.
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Try to imagine LeBron being a nobody as a rookie, 20th pick or so lol - and then playing like this. I don't know what people would say. Fact is, he has been so damn hyped before he even scored his first point in the NBA.... this leads to advantages and disadvantages. One disadvantage is the embarrassment when his team won't make the playoffs. He never even attended a dunking contest because the pressure was so high that not winning it would have been an insane embarrassment, and he's still a kid, not much older than me LMAO. Not leading the team to the playoffs is really disappointing, I so didnt see this comin when they were #2 in the east and alive and kicking. But hell, one thing is sure though, he achieved great stats and I saw a lot of great plays by him, so what the hell. Maybe he can change the team after next season.
That's it.
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Just remember, like a lot of guys have been saying, MJ wasn't instant success for the Bulls. And if you look at it, LeBron isn't putting all his trust into his teammates. It took Jordan a few seasons to quit shooting all the time and trust his teammates. Besides, as it's already been pointed out, the kid is 20.
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I'm not knocking him this early, i really think he got game. But i think media hyped him too much without knowing if he's really a winner or if he's just another Tracy McGrady. "He's still 20!", that's the thing i'm keep reading as the excuse. Ok, but he wasnt even 20 when he was selected for the All Star game. He wasnt even 20 when he was selected to play in the Olympic US Team, returning home with no-golden medal. He wasnt even 20 when he signed that monster contract with Nike. So fuck age! If he's 20, then we should consider him like a good promising 20 years old guy.
Melo was 19 when he won the NCAA and he was 20 when he carried Denver over his shoulders last year, till the Play Offs. And he's doing it again at 21.
Wade was 22 when he carried Miami over his shoulders last year, advancing in the Play Offs. He's 23 now and he'll probably win his first ring.
Kobe was 23 when he first won a ring. Then 24. Then 25.
Magic was 19 when he won the NCAA and he was 20 when he won his first title playing Center. Then he was 21. 22. etc..
Bird was 24 when he won the title.
Etc..
Thing about age is...it's very very hard to actually lead a team and make players better when most are older than you. I don't know if you played sports, but if you did, you'd definitely see where I'm coming from. If you played High School BBall, it doesn't matter if a freshman star is by far the best talent on the team, his older players aren't gonna always want to listen to him and follow his lead, only because he's yougner than them and their ego gets in the way. Magic was just a beast period, and was amazing at what he did. At the same time, you can't expect Lebron to do EVERY single thing that every other star did. Lebron is doin what 90% of all other superstars never did at his age, so don't knock him for not bein able to lead his team quite yet. And if you listen to the reporters and media, the Cavs are doin horrible because of the internal problems which don't really relate to Lebron himself.
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Thing about age is...it's very very hard to actually lead a team and make players better when most are older than you. I don't know if you played sports, but if you did, you'd definitely see where I'm coming from. If you played High School BBall, it doesn't matter if a freshman star is by far the best talent on the team, his older players aren't gonna always want to listen to him and follow his lead, only because he's yougner than them and their ego gets in the way. Magic was just a beast period, and was amazing at what he did. At the same time, you can't expect Lebron to do EVERY single thing that every other star did. Lebron is doin what 90% of all other superstars never did at his age, so don't knock him for not bein able to lead his team quite yet. And if you listen to the reporters and media, the Cavs are doin horrible because of the internal problems which don't really relate to Lebron himself.
Yeah, i know. Like i said he got game, he got skills, he can improve a lot, etc..
The problem is that the media pictured him as the best player ever when he was still playing college basketball.
He aint God.
He's a 20 years old kid, like you all are saying.
Maybe the best 20 years old ever.
But Reggie Miller about to retire is still better than him in my book.
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8. Cleveland 40-40
x. New Jersey 39-40
You gotta be kidding me!! Boston, Washington, Philadelphia, Chicago, Indiana with all its problems, and shit maybe New Jersey will make the Play Offs in the Eastern Conference and the guy supposed to be "the next/better than" Jordan, with a teammate like All Star's Zydrunas Ilgauskas and a pretty good team surrounding him.. he can't carry his team ahead those wack teams to reach a Play Offs spot?
What's wrong with him? Should we only blame the teammates? Cause damn, you all dissed the fuck out of Kobe for the Lakers not making the Play-Offs, and Lakers have just 1 All Star player instead of 2, and they play in the Western Conference instead than in the Eastern one. Reading your comments it looks like LeBron is 10x better than Kobe and like LeBron is the future. Facts are that Melo carried his team in the Play Offs twice and LeBron is risking to do a 0-2 in the wackest Conference!
x. L.A. Lakers 34-45 (but they just dont care no more, so they're keep loosing..)
They aint that far away.
lol do u remember Kobe's first couple of years? I think youre jumpin tha gun just a little here man, u gotta give him time to develop. He's still a kid basically. Btw, i dont think he's better then kobe yet, and i definetely dont think he's the next MJ. But i do think he will eventually be better then Kobe. Ive always thought Lebron was more of a Magic Johnson kinda player, then Jordan anyways.
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lol do u remember Kobe's first couple of years?
He wasnt even close to Eddie Jones, i remember yeah. In fact i didnt hear people saying he was the best player ever without scoring a single point in the league. And i still think Kobe gotta prove me everything.
I think youre jumpin tha gun just a little here man, u gotta give him time to develop. He's still a kid basically.
I'll give him all the time he needs. It's people saying he the MVP of this Regular Season who is not giving him the necessary time. I'm giving him all the time he needs. Wishing him all the best.
Btw, i dont think he's better then kobe yet, and i definetely dont think he's the next MJ. But i do think he will eventually be better then Kobe. Ive always thought Lebron was more of a Magic Johnson kinda player, then Jordan anyways.
PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE. Magic was the MVP of the Finals at his age playing Center vs the Celtics. And the previous year he won the NCAA alone! To compare the two is disrespectful for my fav player ever. Maybe in the future. Maybe. But i still remember that no-look-pass the fat ass Magic did when he returned playing with the Lakers. That move alone shits on the whole LeBron career. Please!
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He aint God.
But Reggie Miller about to retire is still better than him in my book.
No one said he's God...
Well, Reggie is a vet..has proved himself in the finals minutes over and over agian...Lebron has done many times this season aswell, if he scored that last 3 pointer in the final seconds of the Pistons game, this thread would'nt have been made ;)
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He has to take the critics, homie. He doesnt even know what it means to be criticized.
Do you remember Kobe's airballs vs San Antonio?
They changed his career for good.
I hope that block will change LeBron's career too.
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He has to take the critics, homie. He doesnt even know what it means to be criticized.
Do you remember Kobe's airballs vs San Antonio?
They changed his career for good.
I hope that block will change LeBron's career too.
no what changed kobes career for good was him not being able to keep his dick in his pants.
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He has to take the critics, homie. He doesnt even know what it means to be criticized.
Do you remember Kobe's airballs vs San Antonio?
They changed his career for good.
I hope that block will change LeBron's career too.
no what changed kobes career for good was him not being able to keep his dick in his pants.
lol, the man's got a point.
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He has to take the critics, homie. He doesnt even know what it means to be criticized.
Do you remember Kobe's airballs vs San Antonio?
They changed his career for good.
I hope that block will change LeBron's career too.
i hope James doesn't change anything..he's doing good right now..if you watch him play..he doesn't try to "force" anything...he shares the ball a lot. The problem is their coach, and the team's inexperience.
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LOL@The same people who were bitching when I said that the Lakers are playing shitty partially due to lack of coaching are now saying the same thing about the Cavs to defend LeBron...Funny shit.
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LOL@The same people who were bitching when I said that the Lakers are playing shitty partially due to lack of coaching are now saying the same thing about the Cavs to defend LeBron...Funny shit.
That's why i made this topic, lol.
I've read a lot of excuses for real, man.
1) The age: people are saying LeBron is the best player ever being 20, but that shit aint even funny. Like i said Magic won the NCAA tournament at 19 and his first NBA title at 20, playing C in the final game and making the winning shot. MVP of the Finals. He was 20. And Lakers without him were a wack team.
2) The team is wack: but damn, they have 2 All Stars! A lot of teams who reached the Play Offs have none. How's that? Plus they be playing in the Wack Coast where only Miami is a good team. They were #2, everybody can be #2 in the East!
3) They are too young: ok, but Bulls are #4.
4) They have no coach: ok, but why this excuse works only with the Cavs? I mean Lakers dont have a coach but you all blame Kobe?
5) LeBron was tired because of the Olympic Tournment: c'mon, they didnt even win it..
No excuses: it's time to make a step back and to consider LeBron a good player but not God.
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PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE. Magic was the MVP of the Finals at his age playing Center vs the Celtics. And the previous year he won the NCAA alone! To compare the two is disrespectful for my fav player ever. Maybe in the future. Maybe. But i still remember that no-look-pass the fat ass Magic did when he returned playing with the Lakers. That move alone shits on the whole LeBron career. Please!
im not saying he's anywhere as good as Magic now. im saying, his game IMO is patterned after Magic way more then Jordan. I mean look at them, Jordan was a scorer first, passer second. Magic was a passer first, scorer second. One thing coaches complained about Lebron when he came into the league, was that he was TOO unselfish. I dont even know if he'll ever be as good as Magic. And i dont really like when young players come in the league, and they get compared automatically to some Hall of Famer. lol. You gotta prove yourself before being compared to guys like Jordan, Magic, Bird....etc. Thats why ive always hated the Kobe comparison to Jordan. Just as much as i hated the Penny Hardaway, Grant Hill, Harold Minor, etc...comparisons. Its takes a whole career worth of greatness to be like these legends.
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PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE. Magic was the MVP of the Finals at his age playing Center vs the Celtics. And the previous year he won the NCAA alone! To compare the two is disrespectful for my fav player ever. Maybe in the future. Maybe. But i still remember that no-look-pass the fat ass Magic did when he returned playing with the Lakers. That move alone shits on the whole LeBron career. Please!
im not saying he's anywhere as good as Magic now. im saying, his game IMO is patterned after Magic way more then Jordan. I mean look at them, Jordan was a scorer first, passer second. Magic was a passer first, scorer second. One thing coaches complained about Lebron when he came into the league, was that he was TOO unselfish. I dont even know if he'll ever be as good as Magic. And i dont really like when young players come in the league, and they get compared automatically to some Hall of Famer. lol. You gotta prove yourself before being compared to guys like Jordan, Magic, Bird....etc. Thats why ive always hated the Kobe comparison to Jordan. Just as much as i hated the Penny Hardaway, Grant Hill, Harold Minor, etc...comparisons. Its takes a whole career worth of greatness to be like these legends.
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LOL@The same people who were bitching when I said that the Lakers are playing shitty partially due to lack of coaching are now saying the same thing about the Cavs to defend LeBron...Funny shit.
That's why i made this topic, lol.
I've read a lot of excuses for real, man.
1) The age: people are saying LeBron is the best player ever being 20, but that shit aint even funny. Like i said Magic won the NCAA tournament at 19 and his first NBA title at 20, playing C in the final game and making the winning shot. MVP of the Finals. He was 20. And Lakers without him were a wack team.
2) The team is wack: but damn, they have 2 All Stars! A lot of teams who reached the Play Offs have none. How's that? Plus they be playing in the Wack Coast where only Miami is a good team. They were #2, everybody can be #2 in the East!
3) They are too young: ok, but Bulls are #4.
4) They have no coach: ok, but why this excuse works only with the Cavs? I mean Lakers dont have a coach but you all blame Kobe?
5) LeBron was tired because of the Olympic Tournment: c'mon, they didnt even win it..
No excuses: it's time to make a step back and to consider LeBron a good player but not God.
Jesus Christ...who the hell is saying Lebron is God? Antonio, you crack me up when you type. I could argue those points up their easily, but you won't give up...don't be mad that the Laker's arn't in the playoffs and Lebron's Cav's *might* still get in.
Btw, in that Lakers Suck thread, I didn't say shit about the Lakers. But if I did, I'd say they didn't make it becuase of Kobe just to fuck you Kobe fans ;D.
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LEBRON HAS NO FUTURE IN CLEVELAND! THEY'RE JUST HORRIBLE WITH Or WITHOUT LEBRON! IF WINNING IS MORE IMPORTANT TO HIM THAN MONEY...THEN HE SHOULD ASK FOR A TRADE IF HE DONT REACH THE PLAYOFF's NEXT YEAR!
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LEBRON HAS NO FUTURE IN CLEVELAND! THEY'RE JUST HORRIBLE WITH Or WITHOUT LEBRON! IF WINNING IS MORE IMPORTANT TO HIM THAN MONEY...THEN HE SHOULD ASK FOR A TRADE IF HE DONT REACH THE PLAYOFF's NEXT YEAR!
Maybe he's about honour and loyalty?
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LOL@The same people who were bitching when I said that the Lakers are playing shitty partially due to lack of coaching are now saying the same thing about the Cavs to defend LeBron...Funny shit.
That's why i made this topic, lol.
I've read a lot of excuses for real, man.
1) The age: people are saying LeBron is the best player ever being 20, but that shit aint even funny. Like i said Magic won the NCAA tournament at 19 and his first NBA title at 20, playing C in the final game and making the winning shot. MVP of the Finals. He was 20. And Lakers without him were a wack team.
2) The team is wack: but damn, they have 2 All Stars! A lot of teams who reached the Play Offs have none. How's that? Plus they be playing in the Wack Coast where only Miami is a good team. They were #2, everybody can be #2 in the East!
3) They are too young: ok, but Bulls are #4.
4) They have no coach: ok, but why this excuse works only with the Cavs? I mean Lakers dont have a coach but you all blame Kobe?
5) LeBron was tired because of the Olympic Tournment: c'mon, they didnt even win it..
No excuses: it's time to make a step back and to consider LeBron a good player but not God.
Jesus Christ...who the hell is saying Lebron is God? Antonio, you crack me up when you type. I could argue those points up their easily, but you won't give up...don't be mad that the Laker's arn't in the playoffs and Lebron's Cav's *might* still get in.
Btw, in that Lakers Suck thread, I didn't say shit about the Lakers. But if I did, I'd say they didn't make it becuase of Kobe just to fuck you Kobe fans ;D.
Isnt it clear i was talking about the media? Don't take it personal homie. I dunno how it is there, but here they pictured him as MJ before the draft. They said he was the best player ever at 20 and Jesus he aint even close to half Magic, my all time fav player. That's what i hate about it. I don't hate LeBron, but the media overhyping him. I'm not talking about you, but the media.
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Alright it is most definitely over. Boston has #3 clinched and NJ has the most important game of the season, to me there is little doubt that Nets are going to win. Sad shit.
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Yeah i think it's over for the Cavs..
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8. Cleveland 40-40
x. New Jersey 39-40
You gotta be kidding me!! Boston, Washington, Philadelphia, Chicago, Indiana with all its problems, and shit maybe New Jersey will make the Play Offs in the Eastern Conference and the guy supposed to be "the next/better than" Jordan, with a teammate like All Star's Zydrunas Ilgauskas and a pretty good team surrounding him.. he can't carry his team ahead those wack teams to reach a Play Offs spot?
They aint that far away.
and thats why i said that magic was the greatest of all time, he paved the way for jordan,no one really cared about guards before. no one thought they could do anything but pass. the centers were THE game, but when magic came along he changed everything. he even played center! if jordan ever did that he wouldve gotten eaten alive! but i think jordan is number 2
Do you know how long it took MJ to get Chicago in the playoffs? Let alone win a first round series? Gimme a break man, this has nothing to do with comparing the 2 players....Plus LeBron is still only 19 or 20 now and Jordan didnt enter the league until he was 23.
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WHat do you mean its over? There is still one more game...I hope to god Nets lose ;D (cuz i hate VC)
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WHat do you mean its over? There is still one more game...I hope to god Nets lose ;D (cuz i hate VC)
yes it is over, if you heard what boston's coach said then you know its over, they want to be fair and dont care if they lose so their putting in their bench in for most of the game in both games, and new jersey would really have to fuck up to lose to boston's bench team
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^^^Hey...anything can happen :-\
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lol...James got a triple double 27, 14, 14 and his team won..celtics had a huge lead going into the half, looked like their going into the playoffs right? Nope...celtics managed to only score 8 points and give up 32 in the 3rd quarter lol....today was a good day
Also
NEWS: April 20
SKINNY: James became the youngest player to record 3,500 points, 1,000 rebounds and 1,000 assists. He also became the second fastest to reach the milestones, getting there in his 158th career game, the Associated Press reports.
Congrats to James!
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lol...James got a triple double 27, 14, 14 and his team won..celtics had a huge lead going into the half, looked like their going into the playoffs right? Nope...celtics managed to only score 8 points and give up 32 in the 3rd quarter lol....today was a good day
Also
NEWS: April 20
SKINNY: James became the youngest player to record 3,500 points, 1,000 rebounds and 1,000 assists. He also became the second fastest to reach the milestones, getting there in his 158th career game, the Associated Press reports.
Congrats to James!
damn sucks for james. anyways he's stil sick. congrats to him.
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damn thats gotta hurt, they both got the same record and new jersey gets the spot.....ouch..
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damn thats gotta hurt, they both got the same record and new jersey gets the spot.....ouch..
Hold on. Cavaliers used to have the #2 spot, and it looked like they were ready to match Miami for the Eastern Conference title. Everybody in Cleveland was screaming "MVP! MVP!", and people was happy as fuck. Then it came the real world and the dream ended. Cavaliers went from #2 to #9, and they are now officially out the Play Offs. On the other side, New Jersey acquired Carter, and Carter averaged 27.4 ppg (37 in the last decisive game vs Celtics) with 6 rebounds and 4.7 assists per game to prove he's still better than LeBron. That's what i see in my book. Jason Kidd player of the week in the Eastern Conference, Carter 37 points in the last game, New Jersey with a 8-2 record in the last 10 games (Cavs have a 4-6, but 2 games ago it was 2-8). It's so cristalline that it's not even worth other comments.
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The eastern conference playoffs are not going to be half as entertaining now. Fucking fuck.
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Well, now its time to wonder what kind of stats King James is going to get next year?
James hit 27.2 PPG, 7.4 Rebounds, 7.2 Assists, 2.2 Steals a game :o :o...Finished with a .475% Field Goal. He can only go up from here.
But I bet he'd trade those numbers in for a playoff spot..or maybe a good coach.
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The eastern conference playoffs are not going to be half as entertaining now. Fucking fuck.
Hell yea they are...Vince Carter, Richard Jefferson, and Jason Kidd will be a lot more entertaining than LeBron James and his piece of shit Cavs...At least Nets will be able to put up a good fight against Miami...Nobody who knows anything about basketball wants to see Cleveland get swept in the first round...It's only you...
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but lebron is the #1 person who ppl would pay for to watch him play. hes fuckin sick. and how serious was vinces injury? didnt he roll his ankle or some shit against boston? i didnt watch the game, but i heard ppl tlkain bout it i think. bron is the future. :cow:
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I had typed out a huge ass paragraph, but just deleted it...
Antonio, your 'argument' is flawed on so many levels its not even funny...
His team is good?! LOL Jeff and Eric sharing the point guard duties, Jerri Welsch praying his jumper will fall, Traylor eating kids in the locker room, Drew Gooden forgetting every single play (while putting up 'impressive' stats at the same time to fool people who dont actually watch NBA), Big ZzzzzzzzZZZZzzzzzzZZZZZZZZzzzzz who is an All Star purely by default and David Stern being all on LeBron's nuts...
Kobe was 23 when he won his first ring. If LeBron was playing with Shaq, he'd have a title (see D Wade)...
Fat Magic's no look pass shits on LeBron's whole career - yeah, sorry, surprised no one else said this ealier... twat
He's gotta prove to you he can beat an international team in the Olympics = by far the dumbest 'argument' I've read about LeBron... 1. He barely got played as L Brown hates playing young guys 2. Had USA sent their full strength team, we wouldnt have this discussion 3. They play a completely different game...
Media painted the picture of him being the best player when he was still in college? God damn... Anyways, I will put that down to a typo, but even still, the media didnt say he was the best ever... they did however realise the potential to be the best ever...
No one cared about guards before Magic? lol do you know anything about basketball? And yes, we all know Magic played centre for a game, get over it man...
Lakers without Magic were a wack team... you forget just how Cleverland got that 1# pick dude? Melo carried his team now twice into the playoffs? Omg, you get worse as I re-read the post lol... Camby, Boykins and George Karl have had more impact on that than Melo (although he's been doing his thang lately)
Seriously, if you're gonna start up a thread like this and have a dip at someone, atleast get your facts straight and not make yourself out like a fool...
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Lebron James had a sick year.
in his second year hes had a better year than the following players...
Bryant
Iverson
Wade
McGrady
Carter
Pierce
Ray ALlen
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If LeBron was playing with Shaq, he'd have a title (see D Wade)...
Really? And how will you ever be able to prove this...You act as if Miami already champions...In my opinion, Wade is currently a better player than LeBron, but Miami still ain't champions for sure and aren't even favored...PeACe
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Iverson
Wade
McGrady
Carter
I'd say all those players had a better year than LeBron, especially because they either carried or got their team to the playoffs...PeACe.
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Antonio, your 'argument' is flawed on so many levels its not even funny...
His team is good?! LOL Jeff and Eric sharing the point guard duties, Jerri Welsch praying his jumper will fall, Traylor eating kids in the locker room, Drew Gooden forgetting every single play (while putting up 'impressive' stats at the same time to fool people who dont actually watch NBA), Big ZzzzzzzzZZZZzzzzzzZZZZZZZZzzzzz who is an All Star purely by default and David Stern being all on LeBron's nuts...
I've never write Cavs is a good team. It's a wack team if you ask me.
Kobe was 23 when he won his first ring. If LeBron was playing with Shaq, he'd have a title (see D Wade)...
I'm actually 90% sure about it too. Like Manu Ginobili, like Tracy McGrady, like Allen Iverson, like Jason Kidd, like Vince Carter, like Reggie Miller, like Ray Allen, like Stephon Marbury, like half of the NBA's Guards. But what's your point? You all said Kobe won the rings because of Shaq? Yeah, i agree. So if LeBron was playing with Shaq, he'd have a title or two, but STILL thanx to Shaq.
Fat Magic's no look pass shits on LeBron's whole career - yeah, sorry, surprised no one else said this ealier... twat
I did. And it's the truth. You can't even compare Magic's career to this kid's one. I understand if people compares Kobe to Jordan cause Kobe won 3 rings (so half people can say he won them because of Shaq, the other half because he got skills like Jordan. I'm with the first half of those people), but to compare LeBron with Magic is straight bullshit.
He's gotta prove to you he can beat an international team in the Olympics = by far the dumbest 'argument' I've read about LeBron... 1. He barely got played as L Brown hates playing young guys 2. Had USA sent their full strength team, we wouldnt have this discussion 3. They play a completely different game...
I didnt talk about the past Olympics, but about future Olympics. And you can call it a dumb argument, ok. But still i wanna see him against a team who actually defends 10x better than what Lakers do. I wanna see him against Italy, Lithuania, Argentina, France, etc.. Cause imo it's too easy in the NBA to drive in and to score when team dont even play zone. I wanna see if he can improve his game playing good offence against the zone, or defending against European's SG and SF, cause they shoot from 3pts and usually knows how to use their body to play into the painted zone. I dont think that's a dumb statement. If you wanna be universally recognized as the best player in the world, i think you should prove it to the world. Dont you think?
Media painted the picture of him being the best player when he was still in college? God damn... Anyways, I will put that down to a typo, but even still, the media didnt say he was the best ever... they did however realise the potential to be the best ever...
Yeah, high school. We call it (inferior) College here. Anyway they realized it, yeah. And i aint neglecting his potential. I'm just saying that we should talk about a potentially good SG, but right now he aint the best one in the league IMO.
No one cared about guards before Magic? lol do you know anything about basketball? And yes, we all know Magic played centre for a game, get over it man...
I can't. He won what i think it was the best game ever, man. Being 20, playing C, against Celtics. Damn. Dont put it down.
Lakers without Magic were a wack team... you forget just how Cleverland got that 1# pick dude?
No. In fact i was expecting them to play as good as the Lakers?
Melo carried his team now twice into the playoffs? Omg, you get worse as I re-read the post lol... Camby, Boykins and George Karl have had more impact on that than Melo (although he's been doing his thang lately)
If you read them all.. i already said it was just a provocation, obviously.
Seriously, if you're gonna start up a thread like this and have a dip at someone, atleast get your facts straight and not make yourself out like a fool...
You still gotta prove me where i'm wrong. Try again.
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I've never write Cavs is a good team. It's a wack team if you ask me.
You gotta be kidding me!! Boston, Washington, Philadelphia, Chicago, Indiana with all its problems, and shit maybe New Jersey will make the Play Offs in the Eastern Conference and the guy supposed to be "the next/better than" Jordan, with a teammate like All Star's Zydrunas Ilgauskas and a pretty good team surrounding him.. he can't carry his team ahead those wack teams to reach a Play Offs spot?
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I've never write Cavs is a good team. It's a wack team if you ask me.
You gotta be kidding me!! Boston, Washington, Philadelphia, Chicago, Indiana with all its problems, and shit maybe New Jersey will make the Play Offs in the Eastern Conference and the guy supposed to be "the next/better than" Jordan, with a teammate like All Star's Zydrunas Ilgauskas and a pretty good team surrounding him.. he can't carry his team ahead those wack teams to reach a Play Offs spot?
lol, ouch
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I've never write Cavs is a good team. It's a wack team if you ask me.
You gotta be kidding me!! Boston, Washington, Philadelphia, Chicago, Indiana with all its problems, and shit maybe New Jersey will make the Play Offs in the Eastern Conference and the guy supposed to be "the next/better than" Jordan, with a teammate like All Star's Zydrunas Ilgauskas and a pretty good team surrounding him.. he can't carry his team ahead those wack teams to reach a Play Offs spot?
lol, ouch
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Lebron is on another level due to his scoring, ability to hold on to the ball, good amount of assists for his possesion, good rebound ratio...too bad his team around him is below aveage, below average coach and their GM just got fired...a direct plea from the Owner telling Lebron "please dont demand a trade"
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I've never write Cavs is a good team. It's a wack team if you ask me.
You gotta be kidding me!! Boston, Washington, Philadelphia, Chicago, Indiana with all its problems, and shit maybe New Jersey will make the Play Offs in the Eastern Conference and the guy supposed to be "the next/better than" Jordan, with a teammate like All Star's Zydrunas Ilgauskas and a pretty good team surrounding him.. he can't carry his team ahead those wack teams to reach a Play Offs spot?
I was quoting 7even. Read his post in the first page! ("A good coach can't change the potential of a team and its players, which Cavs don't lack, but.."). Actually i was making fun of it. That's what i think about Cavs being wack anyway.
2) The team is wack: but damn, they have 2 All Stars! A lot of teams who reached the Play Offs have none. How's that? Plus they be playing in the Wack Coast where only Miami is a good team. They were #2, everybody can be #2 in the East!
An Nik is the only one who understood the real meaning of my topic.
^^LOL...I don't understand...Kobe's playing for basically an expansion team with an assistant coach leading them who not only have 0 stars (other than Kobe), but have currently been playing without their second best player (Odom), and have been missing players throughout the season (Deavan George, Vlade Divac, Brian Grant, Kobe Bryant, Jumain Jones, Chris Mihm... shit, they've all been injured.)...Now on the other hand, you have LeBron James, a superstar with another superstar on his team and a good supporting cast who's been dubbed the next Michael Jordan and is already being called better than Kobe when he ain't even on Carter status...They both aren't making the playoffs, but only one is being hated on...Am I the only one who can see?
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^^ wtf.. that's from the post you started the thread with.. I posted later, how the hell does that make sense?
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^^^ Exactly... how can you quote someone, on something they havent said yet... face it, you fucked up...
and I dont care if NIK is the only one who got what you're saying, im not here for a Kobe/LA vs. LeBron/Cavs war or whatever's going on, on this topic, you have clearly proven you have no idea...
seems like all your arguments keep turning into 'an obvious joke' or 'just for reaction'...
u got rolled homie :D lol
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ROFL! Ok, anyway let me explain it without quoting 7even, lol. I'm saying that Cavs, playing in the East Coast and being #2 for a pretty long time, had a team who could have made it into the Play Offs easly, expecially if you think they have 2 All Stars in the team, and if you consider the rest of the players as role players playing for them. It's a pretty good team, under this point of view, to reach the #8 spot in the East. I wrote: "You gotta be kidding me!! Boston, Washington, Philadelphia, Chicago, Indiana with all its problems, and shit maybe New Jersey will make the Play Offs in the Eastern Conference and the guy supposed to be "the next/better than" Jordan, with a teammate like All Star's Zydrunas Ilgauskas and a pretty good team surrounding him.. he can't carry his team ahead those wack teams to reach a Play Offs spot?". I was easly talking about the East Coast. Now it's obvious that if we talk in general, Cavs are wack compared to teams like San Antonio, Phoenix, Miami, Dallas, Seattle, Detroit, Sacramento, Denver, Houston, but i was comparing them to Boston, Washington, Philadelphia, Chicago, Indiana and New Jersey, the teams who made the Play Offs in the Eastern Conference. Get it? I'm blaming Cavs and LeBron because it was possible for them to reach the Play Offs, considering how wack the other teams in the East are. Boston has no all stars. Washington has no all stars. Chicago has no all stars. Indiana had a lot of troubles.. But they still made it. Cavs didnt. It's too easy imo to say Cavs are a wack team. No. They are good enought (2 All Stars + role players) to reach the Play Offs. They failed. Then it's obvious the team is wack compared to the best ones of the League, but they didnt have to win the title. They had to reach the Play Offs. It's a failure.
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ROFL! Ok, anyway let me explain it without quoting 7even, lol. I'm saying that Cavs, playing in the East Coast and being #2 for a pretty long time, had a team who could have made it into the Play Offs easly, expecially if you think they have 2 All Stars in the team, and if you consider the rest of the players as role players playing for them. It's a pretty good team, under this point of view, to reach the #8 spot in the East. I wrote: "You gotta be kidding me!! Boston, Washington, Philadelphia, Chicago, Indiana with all its problems, and shit maybe New Jersey will make the Play Offs in the Eastern Conference and the guy supposed to be "the next/better than" Jordan, with a teammate like All Star's Zydrunas Ilgauskas and a pretty good team surrounding him.. he can't carry his team ahead those wack teams to reach a Play Offs spot?". I was easly talking about the East Coast. Now it's obvious that if we talk in general, Cavs are wack compared to teams like San Antonio, Phoenix, Miami, Dallas, Seattle, Detroit, Sacramento, Denver, Houston, but i was comparing them to Boston, Washington, Philadelphia, Chicago, Indiana and New Jersey, the teams who made the Play Offs in the Eastern Conference. Get it? I'm blaming Cavs and LeBron because it was possible for them to reach the Play Offs, considering how wack the other teams in the East are. Boston has no all stars. Washington has no all stars. Chicago has no all stars. Indiana had a lot of troubles.. But they still made it. Cavs didnt. It's too easy imo to say Cavs are a wack team. No. They are good enought (2 All Stars + role players) to reach the Play Offs. They failed. Then it's obvious the team is wack compared to the best ones of the League, but they didnt have to win the title. They had to reach the Play Offs. It's a failure.
its true, it is a failure. Like u said, only really because theyre in the East. Shit, i could put together a team at tha local YMCA that could make the playoffs in the East lol. Now, the season is a failure for the Cavs. I dont really think Lebron himself is a failure. I mean shit, the guy is a kid. Obviously expectations are high for him. Maybe higher then any player coming into the league ever. But we gotta give him SOME time to develop.
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ROFL! Ok, anyway let me explain it without quoting 7even, lol. I'm saying that Cavs, playing in the East Coast and being #2 for a pretty long time, had a team who could have made it into the Play Offs easly, expecially if you think they have 2 All Stars in the team, and if you consider the rest of the players as role players playing for them. It's a pretty good team, under this point of view, to reach the #8 spot in the East. I wrote: "You gotta be kidding me!! Boston, Washington, Philadelphia, Chicago, Indiana with all its problems, and shit maybe New Jersey will make the Play Offs in the Eastern Conference and the guy supposed to be "the next/better than" Jordan, with a teammate like All Star's Zydrunas Ilgauskas and a pretty good team surrounding him.. he can't carry his team ahead those wack teams to reach a Play Offs spot?". I was easly talking about the East Coast. Now it's obvious that if we talk in general, Cavs are wack compared to teams like San Antonio, Phoenix, Miami, Dallas, Seattle, Detroit, Sacramento, Denver, Houston, but i was comparing them to Boston, Washington, Philadelphia, Chicago, Indiana and New Jersey, the teams who made the Play Offs in the Eastern Conference. Get it? I'm blaming Cavs and LeBron because it was possible for them to reach the Play Offs, considering how wack the other teams in the East are. Boston has no all stars. Washington has no all stars. Chicago has no all stars. Indiana had a lot of troubles.. But they still made it. Cavs didnt. It's too easy imo to say Cavs are a wack team. No. They are good enought (2 All Stars + role players) to reach the Play Offs. They failed. Then it's obvious the team is wack compared to the best ones of the League, but they didnt have to win the title. They had to reach the Play Offs. It's a failure.
its true, it is a failure. Like u said, only really because theyre in the East. Shit, i could put together a team at tha local YMCA that could make the playoffs in the East lol. Now, the season is a failure for the Cavs. I dont really think Lebron himself is a failure. I mean shit, the guy is a kid. Obviously expectations are high for him. Maybe higher then any player coming into the league ever. But we gotta give him SOME time to develop.
For sure. He NEEDS some time to develop. I'm just saying it's too early to say he's the next MJ because he still needs time and he still gotta prove everything. I said he's the closest thing to Jordan ever existed at 19/20, but the media hyped him too much. I dunno how is it possible to neglect that.
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ROFL! Ok, anyway let me explain it without quoting 7even, lol. I'm saying that Cavs, playing in the East Coast and being #2 for a pretty long time, had a team who could have made it into the Play Offs easly, expecially if you think they have 2 All Stars in the team, and if you consider the rest of the players as role players playing for them. It's a pretty good team, under this point of view, to reach the #8 spot in the East. I wrote: "You gotta be kidding me!! Boston, Washington, Philadelphia, Chicago, Indiana with all its problems, and shit maybe New Jersey will make the Play Offs in the Eastern Conference and the guy supposed to be "the next/better than" Jordan, with a teammate like All Star's Zydrunas Ilgauskas and a pretty good team surrounding him.. he can't carry his team ahead those wack teams to reach a Play Offs spot?". I was easly talking about the East Coast. Now it's obvious that if we talk in general, Cavs are wack compared to teams like San Antonio, Phoenix, Miami, Dallas, Seattle, Detroit, Sacramento, Denver, Houston, but i was comparing them to Boston, Washington, Philadelphia, Chicago, Indiana and New Jersey, the teams who made the Play Offs in the Eastern Conference. Get it? I'm blaming Cavs and LeBron because it was possible for them to reach the Play Offs, considering how wack the other teams in the East are. Boston has no all stars. Washington has no all stars. Chicago has no all stars. Indiana had a lot of troubles.. But they still made it. Cavs didnt. It's too easy imo to say Cavs are a wack team. No. They are good enought (2 All Stars + role players) to reach the Play Offs. They failed. Then it's obvious the team is wack compared to the best ones of the League, but they didnt have to win the title. They had to reach the Play Offs. It's a failure.
its true, it is a failure. Like u said, only really because theyre in the East. Shit, i could put together a team at tha local YMCA that could make the playoffs in the East lol. Now, the season is a failure for the Cavs. I dont really think Lebron himself is a failure. I mean shit, the guy is a kid. Obviously expectations are high for him. Maybe higher then any player coming into the league ever. But we gotta give him SOME time to develop.
For sure. He NEEDS some time to develop. I'm just saying it's too early to say he's the next MJ because he still needs time and he still gotta prove everything. I said he's the closest thing to Jordan ever existed at 19/20, but the media hyped him too much. I dunno how is it possible to neglect that.
of course they did. Theyre the media, they do this shit to every possible candidate lol. If the media doesnt have a story, they create one. In basketball, theres no bigger comparison u can make....then to Jordan. None of em are EVER Jordan, but how many more tickets do u think the Cavs sold this year because of the hype? lol
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Boston has no all stars. Washington has no all stars. Chicago has no all stars. Indiana had a lot of troubles.. But they still made it.
Damn you're on fire with bullshit facts ::) :laugh:
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OOOH man it gets heated up in here lol. I love this game. Anyway Lebron won't play for the Cavs next year, u can quote me for this.
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Boston has no all stars. Washington has no all stars. Chicago has no all stars. Indiana had a lot of troubles.. But they still made it.
Damn you're on fire with bullshit facts ::) :laugh:
;D ;D ;D ;D
I'm a desperate Laker fan trying to shut LeBron down, homie. I'm on a mission! 8)
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Boston has no all stars. Washington has no all stars. Chicago has no all stars. Indiana had a lot of troubles.. But they still made it.
Damn you're on fire with bullshit facts ::) :laugh:
;D ;D ;D ;D
I'm a desperate Laker fan trying to shut LeBron down, homie. I'm on a mission! 8)
what does being a laker fan have to do with shutting down Lebron's greatness?
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Boston has no all stars. Washington has no all stars. Chicago has no all stars. Indiana had a lot of troubles.. But they still made it.
Damn you're on fire with bullshit facts ::) :laugh:
;D ;D ;D ;D
I'm a desperate Laker fan trying to shut LeBron down, homie. I'm on a mission! 8)
what does being a laker fan have to do with shutting down Lebron's greatness?
who knows? ???
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Boston has no all stars. Washington has no all stars. Chicago has no all stars. Indiana had a lot of troubles.. But they still made it.
Damn you're on fire with bullshit facts ::) :laugh:
;D ;D ;D ;D
I'm a desperate Laker fan trying to shut LeBron down, homie. I'm on a mission! 8)
what does being a laker fan have to do with shutting down Lebron's greatness?
Jealousy. Cause LeBron is loved and Kobe is hated. :-\