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Title: Gummi Bears, prejudice against Muslims? Just noticed something...
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on June 11, 2007, 12:16:32 PM
I was a little kid in the 80's... and one of the most popular cartoons was Gummi Bears.  This show was set in the middle ages time period, with draw bridges, and castles and war weapons from that era.  The show definitely takes inspiration from the Crusades era of European History.  All the good guys, the Gummi Bears are like the Romans in the show, in their talk, dress, etc. 

And their enemy is this evil bad guy named Ethmad (kind of sounds like Ahmed) or something like that, who is the leader of the bad guys in the show.  His features could be described as either Turkish (because of his mustache, the Turks were Christian crusaders fiercest foes from 1400 to 1900) or Arab (from the looks of his large, round, Arab nose, Arab Muslims were Christendoms fiercest foe from 700-1400), and he has an Islamic looking beard as well.  He exacts complete totalitarian rule over his henchmen, and rules by fear.

...you all may laugh at this stuff and say I'm making a big deal about nothing, but the things we see, hear, and love as a child heavily influence a world view that often stays with us for the rest of our life.
Title: Re: Gummi Bears, prejudice against Muslims? Just noticed something...
Post by: es-jay on June 11, 2007, 01:15:41 PM
wow, just wow. do you have any pictures of the Gummi bear in question?
Title: Re: Gummi Bears, prejudice against Muslims? Just noticed something...
Post by: Don Seer on June 11, 2007, 01:59:23 PM
I was a little kid in the 80's... and one of the most popular cartoons was Gummi Bears.  This show was set in the middle ages time period, with draw bridges, and castles and war weapons from that era.  The show definitely takes inspiration from the Crusades era of European History.  All the good guys, the Gummi Bears are like the Romans in the show, in their talk, dress, etc. 

And their enemy is this evil bad guy named Ethmad (kind of sounds like Ahmed) or something like that, who is the leader of the bad guys in the show.  His features could be described as either Turkish (because of his mustache, the Turks were Christian crusaders fiercest foes from 1400 to 1900) or Arab (from the looks of his large, round, Arab nose, Arab Muslims were Christendoms fiercest foe from 700-1400), and he has an Islamic looking beard as well.  He exacts complete totalitarian rule over his henchmen, and rules by fear.

...you all may laugh at this stuff and say I'm making a big deal about nothing, but the things we see, hear, and love as a child heavily influence a world view that often stays with us for the rest of our life.

quoted for shits n giggles..



the guy sounds more like a Genghis Khan figure..

but he wasn't muslim so it won't fit in with your persecution complex
Title: Re: Gummi Bears, prejudice against Muslims? Just noticed something...
Post by: Twentytwofifty on June 11, 2007, 02:18:57 PM
hahahaha
Title: Re: Gummi Bears, prejudice against Muslims? Just noticed something...
Post by: Fuck Your Existence on June 11, 2007, 07:23:08 PM
you have to be kidding me with this bullshit...get a life homeboy
Title: Re: Gummi Bears, prejudice against Muslims? Just noticed something...
Post by: Shallow on June 11, 2007, 09:23:24 PM
you have to be kidding me with this bullshit...get a life homeboy


Naw man, he's right. When I was a kid there were a lot of muslim kids in my class and we were all friends but once I started watching Gummi Bears I started to hate those kids, called them rag heads and shit. I never knew why but it all traces back to this cartoon when I think about it. It all makes sense now.

This cartoon was way ahead of it's time. It was the Regan years and while most cartoons were subliminally bashing Soviet communist dictators, this cartoon saw the war ahead and bashed muslims. Except the main villain wasn't Ethmad. I never heard of Ethmad. The main villain was Duke Sigmund Igthorn who was a knight of the king that tried to rebel, was banished and started his own army of ogres, that look like vikings, and waged war against his former king. That's nothing like the story of the crusades. Sounds more like the story of Lucifer and God. So why did I hate all those muslim kids. Shit, I owe a lot of people from grade school a lot of apologies.

P.S. this guy rules   www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGwHsNsPqFE
Title: Re: Gummi Bears, prejudice against Muslims? Just noticed something...
Post by: Narrator on June 11, 2007, 09:59:11 PM
^^^^ Yeah, when I was a kid, the Great Sir Reagan told me that it was the evil atheistic Commies in the USSR that we were fighting, whereas Muslims like the Mujahadeen fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan were the "freedom fighters" and "revolutionaries" we should look up to.  The great Sylvester Stallone, who was like my role model back then, told me the same thing in the wonderful movie "Rambo III" (remember it?).  As a patriotic Commie-hating American, I quickly realized the message these great men were trying to tell my black ass - "Muslims are cool 'cause they're anti-Commie, just like us!"  So what did I do?  I began thinking about converting to Islam!  I even went to a mosque to see what it was all about.

Then, many years later, Sir Dubya (another great American) told me that the Muslims in Afghanistan were now our worst enemy and that we'd have to go to war and confront them.  This has confused me horribly and fucked up my brain.  Sometime, I processed the ideas all wrong and, while trying to come up with my own coherent philosophy, realized I now hated AmeriKKKa and couldn't trust people like Dubya or Stallone or Reagan anymore.  What I needed was simple - my own ideology that eschewed the lies they had told me!  Now I have it...it's called Pan-African Socialism, and it has elements of both communism and Islam, and the general gist is that whites lose.  Great isn't it?
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Post by: Chief on June 11, 2007, 10:11:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/Eni0LHAS464

i don't see the rapport.
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Post by: Turf Hitta on June 11, 2007, 11:17:50 PM
I dont know, I'm middle eastern and I think its just a damn cartoon. No subliminal messages, just some cute drawings of bears running around doing shit for little kids to watch
Title: Re: Gummi Bears, prejudice against Muslims? Just noticed something...
Post by: Shallow on June 12, 2007, 05:22:57 AM
^^^^ Yeah, when I was a kid, the Great Sir Reagan told me that it was the evil atheistic Commies in the USSR that we were fighting, whereas Muslims like the Mujahadeen fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan were the "freedom fighters" and "revolutionaries" we should look up to.  The great Sylvester Stallone, who was like my role model back then, told me the same thing in the wonderful movie "Rambo III" (remember it?).  As a patriotic Commie-hating American, I quickly realized the message these great men were trying to tell my black ass - "Muslims are cool 'cause they're anti-Commie, just like us!"  So what did I do?  I began thinking about converting to Islam!  I even went to a mosque to see what it was all about.

Then, many years later, Sir Dubya (another great American) told me that the Muslims in Afghanistan were now our worst enemy and that we'd have to go to war and confront them.  This has confused me horribly and fucked up my brain.  Sometime, I processed the ideas all wrong and, while trying to come up with my own coherent philosophy, realized I now hated AmeriKKKa and couldn't trust people like Dubya or Stallone or Reagan anymore.  What I needed was simple - my own ideology that eschewed the lies they had told me!  Now I have it...it's called Pan-African Socialism, and it has elements of both communism and Islam, and the general gist is that whites lose.  Great isn't it?


Wait just a second. You want to see the devil in Dubya and Reagan that's fine, but don't turn your back on Rambo. There is no way you're going to win your coming war if John Rambo is fighting against you. Your best bet is to befriend him, keep him close, and then kill him first before you declare war.
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Post by: Narrator on June 12, 2007, 08:43:30 AM
Wait just a second. You want to see the devil in Dubya and Reagan that's fine, but don't turn your back on Rambo. There is no way you're going to win your coming war if John Rambo is fighting against you. Your best bet is to befriend him, keep him close, and then kill him first before you declare war.

Rambo is apparently busy in Burma right now.  Nonetheless, I understand he is none too happy with the War on Terror, either.  Perhaps I can make him convert to Islam and join me?
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Post by: Shallow on June 12, 2007, 09:30:45 AM
Wait just a second. You want to see the devil in Dubya and Reagan that's fine, but don't turn your back on Rambo. There is no way you're going to win your coming war if John Rambo is fighting against you. Your best bet is to befriend him, keep him close, and then kill him first before you declare war.

Rambo is apparently busy in Burma right now.  Nonetheless, I understand he is none too happy with the War on Terror, either.  Perhaps I can make him convert to Islam and join me?


He'll wrap up any business in Burma with in 2 hours. And Islam? C'mon are you serious? What does Islam mean again? Submission to the will of the creator? You are a harsh and stubborn man my friend but you aren't stupid. Can you really see John Rambo submitting to the will of anything?
Title: Re: Gummi Bears, prejudice against Muslims? Just noticed something...
Post by: Narrator on June 12, 2007, 12:24:03 PM
Wait just a second. You want to see the devil in Dubya and Reagan that's fine, but don't turn your back on Rambo. There is no way you're going to win your coming war if John Rambo is fighting against you. Your best bet is to befriend him, keep him close, and then kill him first before you declare war.

Rambo is apparently busy in Burma right now.  Nonetheless, I understand he is none too happy with the War on Terror, either.  Perhaps I can make him convert to Islam and join me?


He'll wrap up any business in Burma with in 2 hours. And Islam? C'mon are you serious? What does Islam mean again? Submission to the will of the creator? You are a harsh and stubborn man my friend but you aren't stupid. Can you really see John Rambo submitting to the will of anything?

Well, if he joins the Five-Percent Nation, he can submit to his own will, exactly as I do.
Title: Re: Gummi Bears, prejudice against Muslims? Just noticed something...
Post by: Shallow on June 12, 2007, 01:27:55 PM
Wait just a second. You want to see the devil in Dubya and Reagan that's fine, but don't turn your back on Rambo. There is no way you're going to win your coming war if John Rambo is fighting against you. Your best bet is to befriend him, keep him close, and then kill him first before you declare war.

Rambo is apparently busy in Burma right now.  Nonetheless, I understand he is none too happy with the War on Terror, either.  Perhaps I can make him convert to Islam and join me?


He'll wrap up any business in Burma with in 2 hours. And Islam? C'mon are you serious? What does Islam mean again? Submission to the will of the creator? You are a harsh and stubborn man my friend but you aren't stupid. Can you really see John Rambo submitting to the will of anything?

Well, if he joins the Five-Percent Nation, he can submit to his own will, exactly as I do.


To be honest I always thought your war on whites was a joke and a lost cause but that was only because I knew I had John Rambo on my side. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little worried right now.

Title: Re: Gummi Bears, prejudice against Muslims? Just noticed something...
Post by: Narrator on June 12, 2007, 04:51:39 PM
To be honest I always thought your war on whites was a joke and a lost cause but that was only because I knew I had John Rambo on my side. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little worried right now.

If I were you, I'd be more worried about Vin Diesel joining the cause right now.  That and my ties to the Irish Republicans.
Title: Re: Gummi Bears, prejudice against Muslims? Just noticed something...
Post by: Shallow on June 12, 2007, 07:49:31 PM
To be honest I always thought your war on whites was a joke and a lost cause but that was only because I knew I had John Rambo on my side. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little worried right now.

If I were you, I'd be more worried about Vin Diesel joining the cause right now.  That and my ties to the Irish Republicans.


That half breed will be so confused come war time, you can have 'em, and at the end of the day the Irish will screw you over.
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Post by: Narrator on June 12, 2007, 09:13:03 PM
^^^^ Careful how you talk about Vin Diesel, haven't you seen "Pitch Black" or "xXx"?  Homeboy will fuck you up like he fucked up all those giant bats and the Russians.

The Irish have as much respect for me as I do for them; we're all anti-imperialist freedom fighters.


Title: Re: Gummi Bears, prejudice against Muslims? Just noticed something...
Post by: jeromechickenbone on June 13, 2007, 01:16:34 AM
^^^^ Yeah, when I was a kid, the Great Sir Reagan told me that it was the evil atheistic Commies in the USSR that we were fighting, whereas Muslims like the Mujahadeen fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan were the "freedom fighters" and "revolutionaries" we should look up to.  The great Sylvester Stallone, who was like my role model back then, told me the same thing in the wonderful movie "Rambo III" (remember it?).  As a patriotic Commie-hating American, I quickly realized the message these great men were trying to tell my black ass - "Muslims are cool 'cause they're anti-Commie, just like us!"  So what did I do?  I began thinking about converting to Islam!  I even went to a mosque to see what it was all about.

Then, many years later, Sir Dubya (another great American) told me that the Muslims in Afghanistan were now our worst enemy and that we'd have to go to war and confront them.  This has confused me horribly and fucked up my brain.  Sometime, I processed the ideas all wrong and, while trying to come up with my own coherent philosophy, realized I now hated AmeriKKKa and couldn't trust people like Dubya or Stallone or Reagan anymore.  What I needed was simple - my own ideology that eschewed the lies they had told me!  Now I have it...it's called Pan-African Socialism, and it has elements of both communism and Islam, and the general gist is that whites lose.  Great isn't it?

This pains me, +1