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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Jaydc555 on April 30, 2009, 06:35:18 AM
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After just forcing myself through jadakiss and Rick Ross albums I have to say I'm not interested in anything with the def jam logo on it.All their albums are so formulaic.The first time I really noticed it was the last fabolous album.here's a typical def jam rap song boring 16 chorus by popular r and n singer rinse and repeat 12 to 13 times on the album.I don't know what anyone sees in this Ross album I think its fucking terrible.I'd give it a 1 out of 5 at best.Ross can barely keep my attention for one song.He never says anything remotely interesting and has the same flow on every track.And the production isn't even that good.If this is what you people think is good beats what the fuck has happened to hip hop?As for jadakiss well Its pretty much exactly what I expected.Dumbed down lyrics over bland production with lame r and b hooks.god this shit is garbage.
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After just forcing myself through jadakiss and Rick Ross albums I have to say I'm not interested in anything with the def jam logo on it.All their albums are so formulaic.The first time I really noticed it was the last fabolous album.here's a typical def jam rap song boring 16 chorus by popular r and n singer rinse and repeat 12 to 13 times on the album.I don't know what anyone sees in this Ross album I think its ####### terrible.I'd give it a 1 out of 5 at best.Ross can barely keep my attention for one song.He never says anything remotely interesting and has the same flow on every track.And the production isn't even that good.If this is what you people think is good beats what the #### has happened to hip hop?As for jadakiss well Its pretty much exactly what I expected.Dumbed down lyrics over bland production with lame r and b hooks.god this #### is garbage.
I have a burned copy of Rick Ross's album and I'm keep asking myself, what is the big deal?!? None of that stuff is memorable. Jada should stick with the Lox. As far as the beats, on Rick Ross's some of it is aiiiigghhht...but damn diddy does better beats then that. Someone said Rick Ross's album was the "Biggie of Miami" wtf...!! Biggie had way better production, sound, hooks, and of course lyrics, no comparison.
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Yeah I went back couple months back and listened to his first two albums and thought they were terrible.I can understand people liking lil Wayne and ti.but I don't get why anyone would like Rick Ross.
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After just forcing myself through jadakiss and Rick Ross albums I have to say I'm not interested in anything with the def jam logo on it.All their albums are so formulaic.The first time I really noticed it was the last fabolous album.here's a typical def jam rap song boring 16 chorus by popular r and n singer rinse and repeat 12 to 13 times on the album.I don't know what anyone sees in this Ross album I think its fucking terrible.I'd give it a 1 out of 5 at best.Ross can barely keep my attention for one song.He never says anything remotely interesting and has the same flow on every track.And the production isn't even that good.If this is what you people think is good beats what the fuck has happened to hip hop?As for jadakiss well Its pretty much exactly what I expected.Dumbed down lyrics over bland production with lame r and b hooks.god this shit is garbage.
Completely agree, but a paragraph or two and some space between sentences would make this easier to read.. ;)
Def Jam is like the EA Games of music, it's so formulaic, you know what the albums sound like before you listen, you even know 70% of the tracklist before it's announced.
Jadakiss would have been considered top 5 if it wasn't for his garbage albums.
If you take his 3 albums and collect the best tracks of each, you get a half decent album, but not much more.
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Agreed. You also forgot about Luda & Friends latest album. Seems like Kanye is the only one doing something in a different direction (808's excluded)
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def jam sucked when rocafella.. and def jam south split..
they was runnin shit then..
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Well there's always this... http://rapidshare.com/files/86574068/Fiend-The_Addiction-2006-RAGEMP3.rar
but Ross' album was the shit besides that track with Trina... maybe y'all r just getting too old.... ALL Music of ALL genres has always been forumulatic or whatever. how many times did producers on all coasts (hip hop) use that MK Rhodes Piano? Answer: More times than Jeezy & Lil' Jon has said "Yeah" combined
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Well there's always this... http://rapidshare.com/files/86574068/Fiend-The_Addiction-2006-RAGEMP3.rar
but Ross' album was the shit besides that track with Trina... maybe y'all r just getting too old.... ALL Music of ALL genres has always been forumulatic or whatever. how many times did producers on all coasts (hip hop) use that MK Rhodes Piano? Answer: More times than Jeezy & Lil' Jon has said "Yeah" combined
Your opinion is worthless.
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Well there's always this... http://rapidshare.com/files/86574068/Fiend-The_Addiction-2006-RAGEMP3.rar
but Ross' album was the shit besides that track with Trina... maybe y'all r just getting too old.... ALL Music of ALL genres has always been forumulatic or whatever. how many times did producers on all coasts (hip hop) use that MK Rhodes Piano? Answer: More times than Jeezy & Lil' Jon has said "Yeah" combined
Your opinion is worthless.
Kinda like how your mother sucks dick homey
http://www.zshare.net/audio/59427881bfe26c59/ (track off Fiend's "The Addiction")
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Total releases since 2007: 33 or so
Quality Def Jam releases since 2007: 6
Chrisette Michele - I Am
Jay-Z - American Gangster
Kanye West - Graduation
Kanye West - 808s & Heartbreak
The Roots - Rising Down
Young Jeezy - The Recession
I don't bump most R&B.
As of 2009 I did not like either of the two major rappers released (Ross or Jada). Ross's most redeemable feature was the beat selection. I did not listen to Ross before the beef and have grown disdain for him since the beef. Jada's cd was wack. Not feeling it at all.
Expected quality future releases:
Jay-Z's The Blueprint 3
Fabulous Loso's Way
Method Man & Red Man Blackout 2
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Well there's always this... http://rapidshare.com/files/86574068/Fiend-The_Addiction-2006-RAGEMP3.rar
but Ross' album was the shit besides that track with Trina... maybe y'all r just getting too old.... ALL Music of ALL genres has always been forumulatic or whatever. how many times did producers on all coasts (hip hop) use that MK Rhodes Piano? Answer: More times than Jeezy & Lil' Jon has said "Yeah" combined
Your opinion is worthless.
Kinda like how your mother sucks dick homey
Why would I give a shit about that? ??? ::)
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Total releases since 2007: 33 or so
Quality Def Jam releases since 2007: 6
Chrisette Michele - I Am
Jay-Z - American Gangster
Kanye West - Graduation
Kanye West - 808s & Heartbreak
The Roots - Rising Down
Young Jeezy - The Recession
I don't bump most R&B.
As of 2009 I did not like either of the two major rappers released (Ross or Jada). Ross's most redeemable feature was the beat selection. I did not listen to Ross before the beef and have grown disdain for him since the beef. Jada's cd was wack. Not feeling it at all.
Expected quality future releases:
Jay-Z's The Blueprint 3
Fabulous Loso's Way
Method Man & Red Man Blackout 2
Only maybe 2 of them albums belong in that list of quality releases. 808's is horrible, Jeezy's album was avaerage, same with Jigga's. Although I can't say anything about Chriisettes album as I haven't heard it.
I'm expecting nothing from that Fabolous album, the same old shit from him.
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Nas' "Untitled" was on Def Jam and dope as fuck.
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why does everybody think that their opinion is better than everybody else's opinion. "this album was hot... no that album was average" talk... i mean who named y'all the Grand Wizard Opinion Masters?
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why does everybody think that their opinion is better than everybody else's opinion. "this album was hot... no that album was average" talk... i mean who named y'all the Grand Wizard Opinion Masters?
So since when was your opinion of Jeezy being better than Chamillionaire better. You were insisting you were right the whole way through.
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What major labels have been good lately is a better question. I thought Ludacris' last one was alright, the second half and especially the ending of it were really good. It's just how the industry is right now. The positives from being on Def Jam is that you get a good budget for beats and access to producers, and you're pretty likely to have a guest appearance from Jay-Z and maybe Nas. You aren't likely to find great complete albums because they are trying to go for a couple commercial hits, but there should be quality tracks with the resources the artists have.
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Total releases since 2007: 33 or so
Quality Def Jam releases since 2007: 6
Chrisette Michele - I Am
Jay-Z - American Gangster
Kanye West - Graduation
Kanye West - 808s & Heartbreak
The Roots - Rising Down
Young Jeezy - The Recession
I don't bump most R&B.
As of 2009 I did not like either of the two major rappers released (Ross or Jada). Ross's most redeemable feature was the beat selection. I did not listen to Ross before the beef and have grown disdain for him since the beef. Jada's cd was wack. Not feeling it at all.
Expected quality future releases:
Jay-Z's The Blueprint 3
Fabulous Loso's Way
Method Man & Red Man Blackout 2
Only maybe 2 of them albums belong in that list of quality releases. 808's is horrible, Jeezy's album was avaerage, same with Jigga's. Although I can't say anything about Chriisettes album as I haven't heard it.
I'm expecting nothing from that Fabolous album, the same old shit from him.
The way I see it those are the highlights from the past two years even if they were below expectations and were at best average. Honestly, out of that list I still bump Untitled, American Gangster and 808s. I sporadically listen to The Roots, Young Jeezy, Chrisitte Michelle. I'm not sure how well Graduation has aged.
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yeah there be alto of formulaic shit dropping but the same could be said about other companies.
Eminem doing the same bullshit today he was doing in 1999...its ten years later, try a new formula for first single, interscope are just as bad if not worse.
I agree to a certain extent.
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Nas' "Untitled" was on Def Jam and dope as fuck.
I'd say it was the best album of 2008
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why does everybody think that their opinion is better than everybody else's opinion. "this album was hot... no that album was average" talk... i mean who named y'all the Grand Wizard Opinion Masters?
haha you should think about that for a minute or two
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I actually own fiend - the addiction and all of his albums.
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why does everybody think that their opinion is better than everybody else's opinion. "this album was hot... no that album was average" talk... i mean who named y'all the Grand Wizard Opinion Masters?
haha you should think about that for a minute or two
That may be a lil' true but atleast I know when to shut tha fuck up. Some of y'all stay on here religiously and feel like y'all own this shit and dictate and bitch up with everything that gets put on here. i dont wanna argue and debate this shit with anybody (BCUZ I KNOW IM RIGHT) but I'm sure tha usual suspects will have something to say.
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What major labels have been good lately is a better question. I thought Ludacris' last one was alright, the second half and especially the ending of it were really good. It's just how the industry is right now. The positives from being on Def Jam is that you get a good budget for beats and access to producers, and you're pretty likely to have a guest appearance from Jay-Z and maybe Nas. You aren't likely to find great complete albums because they are trying to go for a couple commercial hits, but there should be quality tracks with the resources the artists have.
Luda's album sucked because it was nothing but features, mostly by mediocre rappers.
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Well there's always this... http://rapidshare.com/files/86574068/Fiend-The_Addiction-2006-RAGEMP3.rar
but Ross' album was the shit besides that track with Trina... maybe y'all r just getting too old.... ALL Music of ALL genres has always been forumulatic or whatever. how many times did producers on all coasts (hip hop) use that MK Rhodes Piano? Answer: More times than Jeezy & Lil' Jon has said "Yeah" combined
Your opinion is worthless.
Your sig doesn't make sense. Primo is bigger than Guru is.
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It's sucked for damn near 15 years.
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I dig more of the R&B that comes from Island Def Jam then the hip hop. Even a REALLY dope album like the ones The Roots have put out there they do not promote. Back in the day even the underground artists on the label got crazy promo. Remember the buzz they created for DMX? Those days are long gone now.
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Yep irv gotti saved that label and then when he left it went downhill again.its an r and b and southern label now
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DEF jam is done ain't hiphop its watered down shit now!
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Yo Rick Ross always has great production, whoever says different is just hating. He seriously gets the most potentially classic beats, he obviously isn't a lyrical genius by any means but i'd rather listen to Rick Ross than a lot of cats coming out nowadays. That drug talk is pretty entertaining and like I said before the beats are crazy. If you had Jay rappin' over the trilla tracks then that would have been a classic album. J.U.S.T.I.C.E. League, Drumma Boy, DJ Toomp, Mannie Fresh...Def Jam still has the money to pay producers. Obviously the game isn't what it used to be but Def Jam still has potential, if only the mainstream would accept "good" music, Nas barely got time on radios and mtv. I don't know why everyone is always hating on Jeezy and Ross. They are better than a lot of heads out there right now, regardless of their drug slangin' gimmick
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def jam sucked when rocafella.. and def jam south split..
they was runnin shit then..
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I didn't think the production was all that.Just a lot of bass heavy tracks that felt lifeless no real musical quality to them.
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Once again this has become nothing but overstated opinions. Numbers dont lie and everybody cant rock to wat dubcc rocks to. "only if the masses would accept good music" lol that was so gay and nothing but bafoonery. Jeezy/Ross >>>>> Consequence/Termanology ANYDAY... i like Con/Term but they dont have tha same swagger and production of those two. DTR>>Most albums of 09'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOzgdsvDuPA&feature=PlayList&p=DA31BE7C1AA3E19B&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=6
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So I guess britney spears is one of the best to do it because she moves a lot of units?you have to be one of the dumbest people I've ever talked to.Only sheep equate sales with skills.The reason jeezy and Ross sell more isn't because of talent its because they have a big corporation behind them.You have serious problems in your head and I mean that.
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So I guess britney spears is one of the best to do it because she moves a lot of units?you have to be one of the dumbest people I've ever talked to.Only sheep equate sales with skills.The reason jeezy and Ross sell more isn't because of talent its because they have a big corporation behind them.You have serious problems in your head and I mean that.
it's 8:10am over here on the eastside (maryland) and it's a friday. you have nothing better to do than be on dubcc. im about 2 go 2 work, wat r u doing or gonna do all day? and 4 tha record, since Pac and Dr. Dre and Preme all have had major backing from corporations that doesn't make them the best in they own right? stop tryna be hard on tha internet... really and stop tryna be a "true/real" hip hop Guru it's just not 4 u
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cLhvyhh0wA
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So I guess britney spears is one of the best to do it because she moves a lot of units?you have to be one of the dumbest people I've ever talked to.Only sheep equate sales with skills.The reason jeezy and Ross sell more isn't because of talent its because they have a big corporation behind them.You have serious problems in your head and I mean that.
it's 8:10am over here on the eastside (maryland) and it's a friday. you have nothing better to do than be on dubcc. im about 2 go 2 work, wat r u doing or gonna do all day? and 4 tha record, since Pac and Dr. Dre and Preme all have had major backing from corporations that doesn't make them the best in they own right? stop tryna be hard on tha internet... really and stop tryna be a "true/real" hip hop Guru it's just not 4 u
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cLhvyhh0wA
but i guess that makes me a sheep right? ::)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HNp0j5EWWY&feature=related
you'd die 2 have a friend like me
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I'm just getting up for work where I am.on my way right now.I post from my phone while you sit behind a screen and talk about how hard body you are and how everyone is stupid but you.you have serious mental problems
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And 2PAC and preme and dre are the best because they are the best.Not because of sales.Nobody in the world but you would call deeper then rap the best album of the year.Lots of artist move units but that doesn't mean their good.Shit the lonely island sold 50 000 their first week I guess that makes them better rappers then Joe budden by your logic.This coming from the guy who called chamillionaire a Grammy winning multi platinum artist a mixtape artist.How far up ones ass does a head have to be to think like you?
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I'm just getting up for work where I am.on my way right now.I post from my phone while you sit behind a screen and talk about how hard body you are and how everyone is stupid but you.you have serious mental problems
anybody who post on a blog when they're out is truely a loser and is undoubtfully alone. yo i swear you are like tha Hip Hop Perez Hilton... you have to be. Blogging isn't that important, especially on a friday. I can't be the loser here... i just can't. i'll come back and fuck with y'all later, i'm leaving... i have a life, and not a lie.
besides the gangsta rap version of Perez Hilton you are, at the end of the day u really just are a http://www.efukt.com/2460_Vocal_Vagina.html
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Lol your such a joke man.a blog?this is a fucking forum not a blog.go outside and turn off your radio.get some sun on that pale skin of yours.
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The only thing that I can think of is that you are under the age of 15 and a drop out.that's the only way I can think to explain how dumb you are.and what the fuck is a real "hood nigga" like you talking about perez Hilton for?man nobody that supposedly lives in the hood should know who the fuck that is.
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Yo Rick Ross always has great production, whoever says different is just hating. He seriously gets the most potentially classic beats, he obviously isn't a lyrical genius by any means but i'd rather listen to Rick Ross than a lot of cats coming out nowadays. That drug talk is pretty entertaining and like I said before the beats are crazy. If you had Jay rappin' over the trilla tracks then that would have been a classic album. J.U.S.T.I.C.E. League, Drumma Boy, DJ Toomp, Mannie Fresh...Def Jam still has the money to pay producers. Obviously the game isn't what it used to be but Def Jam still has potential, if only the mainstream would accept "good" music, Nas barely got time on radios and mtv. I don't know why everyone is always hating on Jeezy and Ross. They are better than a lot of heads out there right now, regardless of their drug slangin' gimmick
are you saying beats make an artist?
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Yup, I agree, especially on the Ross issue. His beats can't save the album. I have never liked the dude's rapping. Same old lazy flow. Horrible.
I can't believe it sold as much as it did the first week. I shook my head.
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alot of this seems like critism about critism and meaningless distinctions about the art that really wasn't there in the first place. if u love hip hop/rap, then y all of tha hate? sooner or later u have to realize this shit is just as good or better than tha shit that came out 20 years ago. u/y'all really shud just let it go
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haha cuz the industry, jay-z can make it happen
but yeah jada went commercial and ross been commercial jus like jim, wayne, busta and the rest of em
(im tlakin def jam and rappers in general)
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alot of this seems like critism about critism and meaningless distinctions about the art that really wasn't there in the first place. if u love hip hop/rap, then y all of tha hate? sooner or later u have to realize this shit is just as good or better than tha shit that came out 20 years ago. u/y'all really shud just let it go
Cause it drags the quality down
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I wouldn't say that Def Jam sucks.. but it's not what it used to be. And about Ross' album, it wasn't amazing but it has about 5 good songs and 4 wack songs. All the other songs are average. 3/5.
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alot of this seems like critism about critism and meaningless distinctions about the art that really wasn't there in the first place. if u love hip hop/rap, then y all of tha hate? sooner or later u have to realize this shit is just as good or better than tha shit that came out 20 years ago. u/y'all really shud just let it go
Cause it drags the quality down
Said who?? Ice T & Nas aren't doin nothin but cornering a certain corner of the Hip Hop market. If anything, y'all should be happy that there's more than 1 type of Hip Hop being exposed and it's more positive (even Trap Hop is cleaner than the Original Gangsta Rap days). The age of the "floppy disk fans" has to come to an end. Nobody listens to the radio or watches TV (for music) anymore except the little kids and I'd rather have my kids listen to Bow Wow than Nipsey Hu$$le. If you consider yourself a mature person then you have to realize the responsibilty that comes with the messages being put out there. Hell yeah I wanna see niggaz like Nip and Murs on the big screen and the small screen and when I turn on the radio I wanna hear some Mos Def and some Pete Rock but it ain't about all that... let the kids do tha history, THEY ALL eventually go looking for something better, and plus y'all act like they dont feel the way y'all do and the Soulja Boys is ALL they listen too.
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Once again this has become nothing but overstated opinions. Numbers dont lie and everybody cant rock to wat dubcc rocks to. "only if the masses would accept good music" lol that was so gay and nothing but bafoonery. Jeezy/Ross >>>>> Consequence/Termanology ANYDAY... i like Con/Term but they dont have tha same swagger and production of those two. DTR>>Most albums of 09'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOzgdsvDuPA&feature=PlayList&p=DA31BE7C1AA3E19B&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=6
If you think Jeezy and Ross have swagger, you don't get it yet.. Cons and Term have a grown up, humble, intelligence to their music.. If you ask me, that is the kind of swagger I relate to, not the swagger of drug-dealing, jewelry braggging, big car having, etc... Wait a few more years, when hopefully for you that shit doesn't matter.. And you start seeing the real reason we are here on Earth..
As for production, that is the producers, the artist gets credit for having a good ear I guess. That's opinion though... Depends on what kinda beat you vibe to...
alot of this seems like critism about critism and meaningless distinctions about the art that really wasn't there in the first place. if u love hip hop/rap, then y all of tha hate? sooner or later u have to realize this shit is just as good or better than tha shit that came out 20 years ago. u/y'all really shud just let it go
Cause it drags the quality down
Said who?? Ice T & Nas aren't doin nothin but cornering a certain corner of the Hip Hop market. If anything, y'all should be happy that there's more than 1 type of Hip Hop being exposed and it's more positive (even Trap Hop is cleaner than the Original Gangsta Rap days). The age of the "floppy disk fans" has to come to an end. Nobody listens to the radio or watches TV (for music) anymore except the little kids and I'd rather have my kids listen to Bow Wow than Nipsey Hu$$le. If you consider yourself a mature person then you have to realize the responsibilty that comes with the messages being put out there. Hell yeah I wanna see niggaz like Nip and Murs on the big screen and the small screen and when I turn on the radio I wanna hear some Mos Def and some Pete Rock but it ain't about all that... let the kids do tha history, THEY ALL eventually go looking for something better, and plus y'all act like they dont feel the way y'all do and the Soulja Boys is ALL they listen too.
That makes no sense.. Why do you think the kids are so fucked up in drugs and we got more ppl becoming gangsta punks than ever before? Cuz of music like Young Jeezys.. I gaurantee i we had Cons and Term on the radio and that music being pushed in the mainstream, the kids would be more responsible, I PUT MONEY ON IT..
THAT is why I hate on artists like Rick Ross, Young Jeezy. They don't make music that has substance, it's not pushing a positive message, it's a bunch of bullshit.. The record labels know it too..
It's the labels fault for choosing the artists they want to push, it's the artists fault for giving in and making the bullshit that the labels want.. It's a trap, and sadly it will always be there, but we can always fight against it.
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There's a place for everything in hip-hop. Most artists argue about what is and isn't hip-hop in order to get the spotlight on themselves so they can remain popular and make some dough. For example, the East tried crushing the west by denying it. They lost the fame and the popularity and caught feelings. They say what is and isn't hip-hop in order to rescue the dollars. Most of them aren't saying it for the love. It's really futile. Everything has it's place.
People connect to different music, different styles, etc.
My theory is discussion is fun, talking shit is fun but I wish'em all success. Some more then others.
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I agree but radiotube is just a douchebag and says things like Rick Ross is better then termanology and young jeezy is classic music we will listen to when were seniors.hip hop would be boring if it didn't have so much variety.but the claims he make are just so idiotic its mind boggling.
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When I make it to my senior age I hope I can't connect with hip-hop. I'm a just bump some classical shit. By then these words will be trivial.
Ross as a senior? haha! :(
I don't think he'll be remembered that long but the future is never seen.
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Ill still be dancing to mark Morrison return of the Mack in my 60s
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If you think Jeezy and Ross have swagger, you don't get it yet.. Cons and Term have a grown up, humble, intelligence to their music.. If you ask me, that is the kind of swagger I relate to, not the swagger of drug-dealing, jewelry braggging, big car having, etc... Wait a few more years, when hopefully for you that shit doesn't matter.. And you start seeing the real reason we are here on Earth..
As for production, that is the producers, the artist gets credit for having a good ear I guess. That's opinion though... Depends on what kinda beat you vibe to...
alot of this seems like critism about critism and meaningless distinctions about the art that really wasn't there in the first place. if u love hip hop/rap, then y all of tha hate? sooner or later u have to realize this shit is just as good or better than tha shit that came out 20 years ago. u/y'all really shud just let it go
Cause it drags the quality down
Said who?? Ice T & Nas aren't doin nothin but cornering a certain corner of the Hip Hop market. If anything, y'all should be happy that there's more than 1 type of Hip Hop being exposed and it's more positive (even Trap Hop is cleaner than the Original Gangsta Rap days). The age of the "floppy disk fans" has to come to an end. Nobody listens to the radio or watches TV (for music) anymore except the little kids and I'd rather have my kids listen to Bow Wow than Nipsey Hu$$le. If you consider yourself a mature person then you have to realize the responsibilty that comes with the messages being put out there. Hell yeah I wanna see niggaz like Nip and Murs on the big screen and the small screen and when I turn on the radio I wanna hear some Mos Def and some Pete Rock but it ain't about all that... let the kids do tha history, THEY ALL eventually go looking for something better, and plus y'all act like they dont feel the way y'all do and the Soulja Boys is ALL they listen too.
That makes no sense.. Why do you think the kids are so fucked up in drugs and we got more ppl becoming gangsta punks than ever before? Cuz of music like Young Jeezys.. I gaurantee i we had Cons and Term on the radio and that music being pushed in the mainstream, the kids would be more responsible, I PUT MONEY ON IT..
THAT is why I hate on artists like Rick Ross, Young Jeezy. They don't make music that has substance, it's not pushing a positive message, it's a bunch of bullshit.. The record labels know it too..
It's the labels fault for choosing the artists they want to push, it's the artists fault for giving in and making the bullshit that the labels want.. It's a trap, and sadly it will always be there, but we can always fight against it.
Like u actually give a fuck about the Lil Ronnys from the Uptowns or the Malika's from the Southside. Do u actually listen to the albums/mixtapes (by the artist you love 2 hate) or do u just hear a couple tracks and call it a day and reject any and everything they put out without giving it a thoro listen *did u feel this way too when u first heard NWA or did u just hop on dick bcuz everybody was on tha bandwagon already*. I get blown everytime y'all throw words in my mouth saying that i said so and so is better than so and so when I've clearly NEVER compared or said such (besides the FACTS and NOT opinions like wat i did about Cham & Jeezy or 3-6/Preme). Just like my man Action said... ALL HIP HOP Has it's place. I coulda sworn i said some shit like that like 2 or 3 weeks ago (everything Action said). But if the world is going one way and you're going another- maybe y'all r just the minorities? Have any of you actually listened to the lyrics/messages in Deeper Than Rap and The Recession (since u swear that's the only albums I listen to). You would KNOW that there is enough substance in those albums to call it more than just a party album.
If I want substance I'll play some Kanye or some Kid Cudi or The Roots or Eryka Badu. And since you're speaking about Termanology so much, doesn't he rap about tha same thing like any other rapper does, sex-money-drugs-violence rap (wasn't that a name of one of his tracks on his last album). - Saigon anybody? Styles P? i could go on all day... What's your argument gonna be for that... "99% of rappers do that"; well no shit shirlock that's what the fuck I've been saying. i thinks it's hilarious how much attention you give me.
Y'all value my opinion and dubcc is boring when i'm not on here keepin it 100. y'all just dickride, hate, and agree with each other on everything (literally) and say some corny ass jokes when I'm not around.
And i never knew white folks actually cared so much about wat goes on in the hood and wat young impressionable black/spanish kids are listening to everyday lol, especially the ones who dont even live in America lmao. I like to party and dumbout to my hip hop/music (just like most normal people do). and when i need to listen to something to get my mind right i'll pop on some B.O.B, Outkast, Scarface, Nas, etc. or I'll watch Obama on CNN or get an unwanted lecture from my father or do like any intelligent person does and think about the shit . I along with every other person in this world don't really solely on music to hear wat i need to hear to retain intelligence.
And for the record I listen to all types of music like Neo-Soul, Classic Jazz, Rock, and some more shit. Which i happened to grow up on and even play a little bit of
And i'm mad y'all try 2 always call me out on something that I mentioned that I already do/did in my previous post and say i dont do it lol. I liked how u tried to call me youngin bcuz I like southern hip hop more than you do and u claim I can't muster up the maturity to play something else... like Spoken Word (which I mentioned in another post). It's like u read one of my post then say I dont do that when I'm the 1 who called it out in the 1st place. Y'all r boring and bored without me and clearly aren't as articulant as I am and how i respond to your bitchassness in the same manner. Aren't we ALL around the same age here anyways... I'm 20 and if you're not around that age, then you have no business being on Hip Hop blogs (even if it's your own forum) unless your downloading or selling music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX2Bfy4P-mc&feature=related
*i have nothing else left to say to tha haters like jay and ennie-pooh and the rest of em, they'll try to say any and everything to get my attention, bcuz they real daddys dont give em enough http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_ejSOsr08Y
STAY IN SCHOOL!!!
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dont be tryna play that "intelligent" hip hop/bullshit with me bcuz y'all were the bamaz that got bitched in skool... man up
http://www.imeem.com/people/aLs9c7/music/iHZc-5Ok/dmx-fuckin-wit-d/ maybe u needed a few more listens of songs like these growing up, then maybe u just mighta got it and had some stronger nuts when it came time 2 flexx.
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Hahah, you write so much bullshit you have to highlight your own sentences.
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Hahah, you write so much bullshit you have to highlight your own sentences.
Bcuz im tha muthaphukkin truth. Even Scarface samples his own lyrics for a hook. I just give y'all no ground to fuck with me or talk shit. It'll take u an hour or a day to come back and fuck with me... fact. Unless u come back and say some dum wack shit. But i aint gotta explain myself to anybody, if dubcc is at 20,000 members and only a chosen few have shit to say about wat im sayin all the time then it must b y'all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i16MoR_sr_8&feature=PlayList&p=9D593A3E060D93DF&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=40
Dont watch me, Watch The Hawks fuck up The Heat
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Def Jam sucks big time.. but its been like this for a while now.. They are having a hard time promoting legends and good artists. If the label would put more money into artist like Method Man, The Roots, Hiphop would be in a better place. I miss those days where Def Jam was The House of Good music when Def Jam and Def Soul were one big family, with Method Man, Redman,Musiq Soulchild,Kelly Price,Dru Hill, LL Cool J, Jonell, Foxy Brown, Roc A Fella, Murder Inc ..those were the days.. now its all about Rick Ross , Young Jezzy, Neyo & Rihanna
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If you think Jeezy and Ross have swagger, you don't get it yet.. Cons and Term have a grown up, humble, intelligence to their music.. If you ask me, that is the kind of swagger I relate to, not the swagger of drug-dealing, jewelry braggging, big car having, etc... Wait a few more years, when hopefully for you that shit doesn't matter.. And you start seeing the real reason we are here on Earth..
As for production, that is the producers, the artist gets credit for having a good ear I guess. That's opinion though... Depends on what kinda beat you vibe to...
alot of this seems like critism about critism and meaningless distinctions about the art that really wasn't there in the first place. if u love hip hop/rap, then y all of tha hate? sooner or later u have to realize this shit is just as good or better than tha shit that came out 20 years ago. u/y'all really shud just let it go
Cause it drags the quality down
Said who?? Ice T & Nas aren't doin nothin but cornering a certain corner of the Hip Hop market. If anything, y'all should be happy that there's more than 1 type of Hip Hop being exposed and it's more positive (even Trap Hop is cleaner than the Original Gangsta Rap days). The age of the "floppy disk fans" has to come to an end. Nobody listens to the radio or watches TV (for music) anymore except the little kids and I'd rather have my kids listen to Bow Wow than Nipsey Hu$$le. If you consider yourself a mature person then you have to realize the responsibilty that comes with the messages being put out there. Hell yeah I wanna see niggaz like Nip and Murs on the big screen and the small screen and when I turn on the radio I wanna hear some Mos Def and some Pete Rock but it ain't about all that... let the kids do tha history, THEY ALL eventually go looking for something better, and plus y'all act like they dont feel the way y'all do and the Soulja Boys is ALL they listen too.
That makes no sense.. Why do you think the kids are so fucked up in drugs and we got more ppl becoming gangsta punks than ever before? Cuz of music like Young Jeezys.. I gaurantee i we had Cons and Term on the radio and that music being pushed in the mainstream, the kids would be more responsible, I PUT MONEY ON IT..
THAT is why I hate on artists like Rick Ross, Young Jeezy. They don't make music that has substance, it's not pushing a positive message, it's a bunch of bullshit.. The record labels know it too..
It's the labels fault for choosing the artists they want to push, it's the artists fault for giving in and making the bullshit that the labels want.. It's a trap, and sadly it will always be there, but we can always fight against it.
Like u actually give a fuck about the Lil Ronnys from the Uptowns or the Malika's from the Southside. Do u actually listen to the albums/mixtapes (by the artist you love 2 hate) or do u just hear a couple tracks and call it a day and reject any and everything they put out without giving it a thoro listen *did u feel this way too when u first heard NWA or did u just hop on dick bcuz everybody was on tha bandwagon already*. I get blown everytime y'all throw words in my mouth saying that i said so and so is better than so and so when I've clearly NEVER compared or said such (besides the FACTS and NOT opinions like wat i did about Cham & Jeezy or 3-6/Preme). Just like my man Action said... ALL HIP HOP Has it's place. I coulda sworn i said some shit like that like 2 or 3 weeks ago (everything Action said). But if the world is going one way and you're going another- maybe y'all r just the minorities? Have any of you actually listened to the lyrics/messages in Deeper Than Rap and The Recession (since u swear that's the only albums I listen to). You would KNOW that there is enough substance in those albums to call it more than just a party album.
If I want substance I'll play some Kanye or some Kid Cudi or The Roots or Eryka Badu. And since you're speaking about Termanology so much, doesn't he rap about tha same thing like any other rapper does, sex-money-drugs-violence rap (wasn't that a name of one of his tracks on his last album). - Saigon anybody? Styles P? i could go on all day... What's your argument gonna be for that... "99% of rappers do that"; well no shit shirlock that's what the fuck I've been saying. i thinks it's hilarious how much attention you give me.
Y'all value my opinion and dubcc is boring when i'm not on here keepin it 100. y'all just dickride, hate, and agree with each other on everything (literally) and say some corny ass jokes when I'm not around.
And i never knew white folks actually cared so much about wat goes on in the hood and wat young impressionable black/spanish kids are listening to everyday lol, especially the ones who dont even live in America lmao. I like to party and dumbout to my hip hop/music (just like most normal people do). and when i need to listen to something to get my mind right i'll pop on some B.O.B, Outkast, Scarface, Nas, etc. or I'll watch Obama on CNN or get an unwanted lecture from my father or do like any intelligent person does and think about the shit . I along with every other person in this world don't really solely on music to hear wat i need to hear to retain intelligence.
And for the record I listen to all types of music like Neo-Soul, Classic Jazz, Rock, and some more shit. Which i happened to grow up on and even play a little bit of
And i'm mad y'all try 2 always call me out on something that I mentioned that I already do/did in my previous post and say i dont do it lol. I liked how u tried to call me youngin bcuz I like southern hip hop more than you do and u claim I can't muster up the maturity to play something else... like Spoken Word (which I mentioned in another post). It's like u read one of my post then say I dont do that when I'm the 1 who called it out in the 1st place. Y'all r boring and bored without me and clearly aren't as articulant as I am and how i respond to your bitchassness in the same manner. Aren't we ALL around the same age here anyways... I'm 20 and if you're not around that age, then you have no business being on Hip Hop blogs (even if it's your own forum) unless your downloading or selling music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX2Bfy4P-mc&feature=related
*i have nothing else left to say to tha haters like jay and ennie-pooh and the rest of em, they'll try to say any and everything to get my attention, bcuz they real daddys dont give em enough http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_ejSOsr08Y
STAY IN SCHOOL!!!nj
Of course I care about the kids, I'm at an age where I realize how much effect we have on them, and how much they shape the future of the Earth.. Too bad you don't share the same compassion... Yes, I listen to lots of major label albums in their entirety.. I have written Rick Ross off on 3 seperates occasions so far.. If you catch my drift... I didn't call it a party album. It lacks substance and meaning... That can be projected in varying ways other than just "party records"..
Yes I am white, so what?? When I speak about the problems of today, and the struggles of youth, I'm not talking about just blacks, mexicans, "the hood", America... I'm talking about anyone, living anywhere who is going through it... Why do I have to be American???
For the record, I am 22, so that is what it is....
dont be tryna play that "intelligent" hip hop/bullshit with me bcuz y'all were the bamaz that got bitched in skool... man up
http://www.imeem.com/people/aLs9c7/music/iHZc-5Ok/dmx-fuckin-wit-d/ maybe u needed a few more listens of songs like these growing up, then maybe u just mighta got it and had some stronger nuts when it came time 2 flexx.
The song you chose and the reason you chose it is exactly what I'm trying to say is wrong.. LOL.. You obviously don't get it..
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hip hop needs variety. Hell yeah there were pop songs 20 years ago. But there was other shit out too. When's the last time you heard a socially concious song on the radio? Exactly...yeah there was gangsta rap out in the 90s. But don't forget there were a lot of backpack rappers doing their thing too and getting airplay.
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yes def jam does suck right now
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If you think Jeezy and Ross have swagger, you don't get it yet.. Cons and Term have a grown up, humble, intelligence to their music.. If you ask me, that is the kind of swagger I relate to, not the swagger of drug-dealing, jewelry braggging, big car having, etc... Wait a few more years, when hopefully for you that shit doesn't matter.. And you start seeing the real reason we are here on Earth..
As for production, that is the producers, the artist gets credit for having a good ear I guess. That's opinion though... Depends on what kinda beat you vibe to...
alot of this seems like critism about critism and meaningless distinctions about the art that really wasn't there in the first place. if u love hip hop/rap, then y all of tha hate? sooner or later u have to realize this shit is just as good or better than tha shit that came out 20 years ago. u/y'all really shud just let it go
Cause it drags the quality down
Said who?? Ice T & Nas aren't doin nothin but cornering a certain corner of the Hip Hop market. If anything, y'all should be happy that there's more than 1 type of Hip Hop being exposed and it's more positive (even Trap Hop is cleaner than the Original Gangsta Rap days). The age of the "floppy disk fans" has to come to an end. Nobody listens to the radio or watches TV (for music) anymore except the little kids and I'd rather have my kids listen to Bow Wow than Nipsey Hu$$le. If you consider yourself a mature person then you have to realize the responsibilty that comes with the messages being put out there. Hell yeah I wanna see niggaz like Nip and Murs on the big screen and the small screen and when I turn on the radio I wanna hear some Mos Def and some Pete Rock but it ain't about all that... let the kids do tha history, THEY ALL eventually go looking for something better, and plus y'all act like they dont feel the way y'all do and the Soulja Boys is ALL they listen too.
That makes no sense.. Why do you think the kids are so fucked up in drugs and we got more ppl becoming gangsta punks than ever before? Cuz of music like Young Jeezys.. I gaurantee i we had Cons and Term on the radio and that music being pushed in the mainstream, the kids would be more responsible, I PUT MONEY ON IT..
THAT is why I hate on artists like Rick Ross, Young Jeezy. They don't make music that has substance, it's not pushing a positive message, it's a bunch of bullshit.. The record labels know it too..
It's the labels fault for choosing the artists they want to push, it's the artists fault for giving in and making the bullshit that the labels want.. It's a trap, and sadly it will always be there, but we can always fight against it.
Like u actually give a fuck about the Lil Ronnys from the Uptowns or the Malika's from the Southside. Do u actually listen to the albums/mixtapes (by the artist you love 2 hate) or do u just hear a couple tracks and call it a day and reject any and everything they put out without giving it a thoro listen *did u feel this way too when u first heard NWA or did u just hop on dick bcuz everybody was on tha bandwagon already*. I get blown everytime y'all throw words in my mouth saying that i said so and so is better than so and so when I've clearly NEVER compared or said such (besides the FACTS and NOT opinions like wat i did about Cham & Jeezy or 3-6/Preme). Just like my man Action said... ALL HIP HOP Has it's place. I coulda sworn i said some shit like that like 2 or 3 weeks ago (everything Action said). But if the world is going one way and you're going another- maybe y'all r just the minorities? Have any of you actually listened to the lyrics/messages in Deeper Than Rap and The Recession (since u swear that's the only albums I listen to). You would KNOW that there is enough substance in those albums to call it more than just a party album.
If I want substance I'll play some Kanye or some Kid Cudi or The Roots or Eryka Badu. And since you're speaking about Termanology so much, doesn't he rap about tha same thing like any other rapper does, sex-money-drugs-violence rap (wasn't that a name of one of his tracks on his last album). - Saigon anybody? Styles P? i could go on all day... What's your argument gonna be for that... "99% of rappers do that"; well no shit shirlock that's what the fuck I've been saying. i thinks it's hilarious how much attention you give me.
Y'all value my opinion and dubcc is boring when i'm not on here keepin it 100. y'all just dickride, hate, and agree with each other on everything (literally) and say some corny ass jokes when I'm not around.
And i never knew white folks actually cared so much about wat goes on in the hood and wat young impressionable black/spanish kids are listening to everyday lol, especially the ones who dont even live in America lmao. I like to party and dumbout to my hip hop/music (just like most normal people do). and when i need to listen to something to get my mind right i'll pop on some B.O.B, Outkast, Scarface, Nas, etc. or I'll watch Obama on CNN or get an unwanted lecture from my father or do like any intelligent person does and think about the shit . I along with every other person in this world don't really solely on music to hear wat i need to hear to retain intelligence.
And for the record I listen to all types of music like Neo-Soul, Classic Jazz, Rock, and some more shit. Which i happened to grow up on and even play a little bit of
And i'm mad y'all try 2 always call me out on something that I mentioned that I already do/did in my previous post and say i dont do it lol. I liked how u tried to call me youngin bcuz I like southern hip hop more than you do and u claim I can't muster up the maturity to play something else... like Spoken Word (which I mentioned in another post). It's like u read one of my post then say I dont do that when I'm the 1 who called it out in the 1st place. Y'all r boring and bored without me and clearly aren't as articulant as I am and how i respond to your bitchassness in the same manner. Aren't we ALL around the same age here anyways... I'm 20 and if you're not around that age, then you have no business being on Hip Hop blogs (even if it's your own forum) unless your downloading or selling music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX2Bfy4P-mc&feature=related
*i have nothing else left to say to tha haters like jay and ennie-pooh and the rest of em, they'll try to say any and everything to get my attention, bcuz they real daddys dont give em enough http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_ejSOsr08Y
STAY IN SCHOOL!!!nj
Of course I care about the kids, I'm at an age where I realize how much effect we have on them, and how much they shape the future of the Earth.. Too bad you don't share the same compassion... Yes, I listen to lots of major label albums in their entirety.. I have written Rick Ross off on 3 seperates occasions so far.. If you catch my drift... I didn't call it a party album. It lacks substance and meaning... That can be projected in varying ways other than just "party records"..
Yes I am white, so what?? When I speak about the problems of today, and the struggles of youth, I'm not talking about just blacks, mexicans, "the hood", America... I'm talking about anyone, living anywhere who is going through it... Why do I have to be American???
For the record, I am 22, so that is what it is....
dont be tryna play that "intelligent" hip hop/bullshit with me bcuz y'all were the bamaz that got bitched in skool... man up
http://www.imeem.com/people/aLs9c7/music/iHZc-5Ok/dmx-fuckin-wit-d/ maybe u needed a few more listens of songs like these growing up, then maybe u just mighta got it and had some stronger nuts when it came time 2 flexx.
The song you chose and the reason you chose it is exactly what I'm trying to say is wrong.. LOL.. You obviously don't get it..
Fuck bein' positive, Life's a bitch and im tryna fuck her raw and keep it negative... sike but little kids NEVER wanna hear something positive/the right way even if u sit em down and keep em locked in a room, it'll still go in 1 ear and out the other. music isn't gonna help that, not at all- it's hopeless. you can only give em wat they wanna hear. so wats wrong wit em listenin 2 "tha stanky legg"? if they love it they love it, fuck it- would u rather have em listen 2 "deep cover" or have em throw tempertantrums bcuz they can't stand to listen to a Q-Tip or John Coltrane record... fuck it, the state of hip hop is PERFECT for the youth, let it be. y'all r on 1 side of the game while others are on different parts of the game. the hip hop game is so perfect right now. Everybody claims that there's no balance but the second you log on to tha internet or read a magazine or watch an artist interview there's muthafuckaz bitchin' and complain at everything on every site/p/etc about the bubblegum rap and tha weak n' b music... the balance is here (on the internet, which most people have access to). people been got past the Tv/Radio stages, everybody has an mp3 player nowadays or limewire (young and old) so you can get all the balance and EDUCATION you need at the click of a finger (and most/all people do; young and old). It kills me when people say that it isn't there but the second you come to sites like these or allhiphop or sohh or wherever you got muthafuckaz bitchin about "real hip hop" this and that, so the message is out there and it's ALWAYS been out there (since the beginning of hip hop literally- the message of fake hip hop) you cant stop it or hide it. People shood fall back and realize that it's out there, it sticks out like a sore thumb. and when you're young and riding around in tha car with your folks and you happen to be listening to tha radio (no cds or ipods) of course the party/positive music is gonna be on, that's just P.R. for the business. or you cood just change the station to something else ::) Or you cood do wat ur doing now and just listen to the "classics" and call it day and get over it, there will never be another 93'-94' era for hip hop, just like there will never be another era for hair metal bands. but even then back in tha day 95% of hip hop was just samples and the other 5% was just a concoxion of samples put together to make it sound original (*sir jinx*) or replayed samples (which back then it seem'd like every artist sampled the SAME song or James Brown). so bottom line it's there, and it's not hard to find or know about... artist and people have been ranting and raving about it since the beginning... what more can you say or do when it's already out there?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiywQwl8-2I&feature=related