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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: teecee on August 13, 2002, 04:08:15 AM
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Damn, Dre is what he said he would never be in his own words- an "industry hoe"! I mean, i think it is cool how he works with more artists nowadays, but back in the days when he only worked with his own family, it was guaranteed they were getting the best tracks he possibly had. It also meant he was a lot more focused.
Once again, it is all good Dre is working with various artists. However, does he really gotta work with MYA? I will be fuckin pissed off if he gives her a hit like he did to Eve last year, or a beat like Mary's "Family Affair". THose were probably the only guaranteed beats that were sure to be superhits(i am talking songs EVERYONE likes) he has put out since 2001, and he gave them to Eve and Mary J? And then he gives Nate a terrible beat for his album? After what NAte did on 2001, that pissed me off! Imagine if Dre would've saved the XXplosive beat and Nate coulda had that as his single? NAte woulda blown the fuck up!!
All i know is, if Dre keeps doing all these other artists songs, then i am worried for Rakim's album and other Aftermath albums as they are not as good as they truly could be.........
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Dre's working with Mya? Since when?
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It says it at MTV.com.......in the Mya article towards the end.
I have no problem with him doing so, cuz i can admit i have bumped a Mya track (Best of Me) before, i just think it will piss me off if he gives her a smash hit when he isn't doing that for anyone else right now.......
Now that Dre has worked for so many artists in the last 2 years, hope he keeps a low profile and creates some excitement for his upcoming releases by ot putting anything out (that way we will be dying for some Dre-funk when Rakim and Dre's own album drop)....
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I honestly don't even pay much attention to Dre anymore. It takes him way to long to put an album out on Aftermath, and the only album that I really liked was 2001. The eminem albums are good, but I am not much of an eminem fan. Truth Hurts-well I haven't heard the album, but I am not a huge fan of R&B, I mean it is good music and all but it doesn't hold my attention for very long. The wash had a few good songs, but for the most part was just under average. Dre barely works with any rappers I like anymore, so I just really don't pay attention to him anymore. Hopefully he will do some nice work on snoops next album.
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I honestly don't even pay much attention to Dre anymore. It takes him way to long to put an album out on Aftermath, and the only album that I really liked was 2001. The eminem albums are good, but I am not much of an eminem fan. Truth Hurts-well I haven't heard the album, but I am not a huge fan of R&B, I mean it is good music and all but it doesn't hold my attention for very long. The wash had a few good songs, but for the most part was just under average. Dre barely works with any rappers I like anymore, so I just really don't pay attention to him anymore. Hopefully he will do some nice work on snoops next album.
agreed 100% ;)
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truth hurts album was some dope shit
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I honestly don't even pay much attention to Dre anymore. It takes him way to long to put an album out on Aftermath, and the only album that I really liked was 2001. The eminem albums are good, but I am not much of an eminem fan. Truth Hurts-well I haven't heard the album, but I am not a huge fan of R&B, I mean it is good music and all but it doesn't hold my attention for very long. The wash had a few good songs, but for the most part was just under average. Dre barely works with any rappers I like anymore, so I just really don't pay attention to him anymore. Hopefully he will do some nice work on snoops next album.
definately agree with that, and truth hurts was dope also
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I do not agree with you...
Dre always puts out the best of his ablities and it's fine for him to work with other people!
It could be that the songs you don't like is the songs that Dre likes the most...
And by the way - In my opinion "Your wife" is a dope track!!
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dre is going pop......its sad
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What' wrong with Dre working with Mya? All producers branch out and work with different artists. I wouldnt call Mya pop. Mya is hip-hop and has recorded tracks with the likes of Jadakiss and Jigga. I have no problems at ALL with Dre working with Mya. I dont understand how making a track for a musician makes Dre and "industry hoe". Do you even know what an industry hoe is. ::shakes head in disgust::
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going? hehe
btw.. truth hurts wasnt that special... lots of rehashed rnb formulas. well done, but nothing amazingly new ... apart from addicitive.
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I like pop music, i just don't necessarily want Dre doing it.....
Ya, "Your Wife" is dope, but that beat is ass compared to other beats Dre has done.....I could only imagine what Nate could've done with the FAMILY AFFAIR beat or the LET ME BLOW YA MIND beat.......
My point is, Dre made classic albums back in the day cuz he wasn't working outside his crew......same as when he made 2001. I just hope he quits with all the collaborations for awhile so Rakim's album can be classic, and then so can DETOX...
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What' wrong with Dre working with Mya? All producers branch out and work with different artists. I wouldnt call Mya pop. Mya is hip-hop and has recorded tracks with the likes of Jadakiss and Jigga. I have no problems at ALL with Dre working with Mya. I dont understand how making a track for a musician makes Dre and "industry hoe". Do you even know what an industry hoe is. ::shakes head in disgust::
Dre himself defined an industry hoe as someone who was willing to work with a gang of different people in the industry, and swore he'd never become one (it was in the cover story in The Source a few years back, I don't have it to quote directly.)
A few years before that, while he was with Tha Row, he said in Hip Hop Connection magazine that he didn't want to spread himself thin cuz he wanted people to know that when his name was on something it would be special.
I think the problem is now that Dre's name on a record DOESN'T mean it's special. I have no doubts that Detox and Oh My God will be awesome, awesome records, but Dre is doing himself no favours giving beats to Mary J, Eve or Busta. I'd rather he saved it all up for his own crew instead of becoming a pop producer, whihc he's in danger of becoming...
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I aint got no problem with Dre recording with Mya... he could work with N Sync it would be all good as long as the sound is tight
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I aint got no problem with Dre recording with Mya... he could work with N Sync it would be all good as long as the sound is tight
Are you serious??? If Dre worked with N Sync then I would lose all respect for him. I mean he turned down Micheal Jackson, one of the greatest in the music industry, yet he decides to work with Eve, Mary J. Blige, Mya, Busta Rhymes, etc. I don't understand his decisions in the past few years.
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I am not arsed who dre works with along as he brings out the best in them and they bring out the best in him.
As long as he keeps making them dope beats I will never have a problem who he works with
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"Family Affair" is a classic beat in my opinion. Just imagine having someone like Snoop Dogg, Eminem or Xzibit rapping over that track. Dam.
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"Family Affair" is a classic beat in my opinion. Just imagine having someone like Snoop Dogg, Eminem or Xzibit rapping over that track. Dam.
See, you hit the nail on the head man - it AIN'T Snoop, Em or X on that beat - it's Mary J Blige. No offence to fans, but Mary's music does NOTHING for me, and so knowing Dre produced Family Affair does nothing for me, just like knowing a film director I like made a wack film doesn't make me like that movie.
If Dre used all his beats for his own crew(s), and put that music out more often, it would mean more than selling left overs to artists that a significant proportion of his fan base couldn't give a fuck about.
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See, you hit the nail on the head man - it AIN'T Snoop, Em or X on that beat - it's Mary J Blige. No offence to fans, but Mary's music does NOTHING for me, and so knowing Dre produced Family Affair does nothing for me, just like knowing a film director I like made a wack film doesn't make me like that movie.
If Dre used all his beats for his own crew(s), and put that music out more often, it would mean more than selling left overs to artists that a significant proportion of his fan base couldn't give a fuck about.
I agree 100%. It's like Samuel L. Jackson is a great actor, and he is in the movie Shaft. Shaft is a completely horrible movie so it is like a waste of using Samuel L. Jackson.
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I agree 100%. It's like Samuel L. Jackson is a great actor, and he is in the movie Shaft. Shaft is a completely horrible movie so it is like a waste of using Samuel L. Jackson.
See, the thing is not to dick-ride. It's all about context and personal choice. I'm a Dre fan, but that doesn't mean I think every Dre beat is classic. Just like you might love Samuel L Jackson's work, but if he fucks up it's up to the fans to say "Dude, you fucked up."
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Not that I got a problem with Mary on "Family Affair," it was very tight. But, it would be nice to hear rappers tear it up on that track. Also...I think Dre gave her that beat for FREE, cause I know Mary recorded her part on 'The Message" for free. So maybe in return Dre gave this to her, cause I know they were not in the studio together when Mary recorded the track, she said.
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Dre is a Music Producer!
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Your Wife was dope in my opinion
Anyway Eve and Busta Ryhmes ain't pop they ARE rappers, just not the ones Dre usually works with.
And Mary J. Blige is RnB and I don't see what's wrong with working with RnB artists a few times.
Mya is a waste in my opinion but that doesn't make Dre a industry hoe.
Dre for shure didn't say working with RnB artists a few times although u be a hiphop producer makes u an industry hoe.
In fact RnB is part of HipHop.
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dont you all know that Dr.Dre iz the the 2k version of Quincy Jones so its all good to see him show some versatility with diverse artist
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Not that I got a problem with Mary on "Family Affair," it was very tight. But, it would be nice to hear rappers tear it up on that track.
LoL...U ever heard of the Jadakiss/Fabolous remix? LoL, yea, but I see what ure saying...PeAcE
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Dre himself defined an industry hoe as someone who was willing to work with a gang of different people in the industry, and swore he'd never become one (it was in the cover story in The Source a few years back, I don't have it to quote directly.)
Dre has always done music for all forms of hip hop. So do you have beef with Mya then..is that the deal? Cos Mya is talented and fine as hell on a side note.
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not to change the subject, but, a while back I thought I saw a pic with Dre and N' Sync together. LOL. Our worst nightmare may just be around the corner. :P
-Tha Rev
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going? hehe
btw.. truth hurts wasnt that special... lots of rehashed rnb formulas. well done, but nothing amazingly new ... apart from addicitive.
Agreed.. Truth Hurts was a nice change from your avarage R And B album.. you gotta admit but not what I expected. Dre Quote: "This shit is gonna change the game.." hhhmmm.. ???
It was mentioned in a previous post that Dre's 2001 formula was tired and played out.. I totally agree.. Im not diggin this Mya thing.. and if Dre keeps puttin himself out there like that.. people will have less interest in what he does.. not to mention put less value on his work. Thats the thing that Dre shouldnt loss is the value that fans put on his music. IMO, this move de-values his shit and thats WACK.
Axle
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Again, that remix with Jadakiss & Fabulous wasn't recorded with Dre. It's something Mary decided to do.
I just think Dre is starting to ride out his "2001" sound, he has been using it since '99. I think we'll get a taste of his "Detox" sound on "Oh My God." And get a full delivery somewhere in 2003.
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Are you serious??? If Dre worked with N Sync then I would lose all respect for him. I mean he turned down Micheal Jackson, one of the greatest in the music industry, yet he decides to work with Eve, Mary J. Blige, Mya, Busta Rhymes, etc. I don't understand his decisions in the past few years.
So if u loose your respect for him then he´s music wont sound dope in your ears??? I dont give a fuck if he was white and the producer 4 Backstreet Boys!!! Good HipHop IS good HipHop no matter what!!
Peace
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So if u loose your respect for him then he´s music wont sound dope in your ears??? I dont give a fuck if he was white and the producer 4 Backstreet Boys!!! Good HipHop IS good HipHop no matter what!!
Peace
I can't agree on this
Mya ain't nothin bad but Nsync and all this shit would be defently too much
But we don't even need to talk bout this shit since Dre would never work with those bitches.
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As long as he keeps making them dope beats I will never have a problem who he works with
"Family Affair" is a classic beat in my opinion. Just imagine having someone like Snoop Dogg, Eminem or Xzibit rapping over that track. Dam.
See, the thing is not to dick-ride. It's all about context and personal choice. I'm a Dre fan, but that doesn't mean I think every Dre beat is classic. Just like you might love Samuel L Jackson's work, but if he fucks up it's up to the fans to say "Dude, you fucked up."
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I do not agree with you...
Dre always puts out the best of his ablities and it's fine for him to work with other people!
It could be that the songs you don't like is the songs that Dre likes the most...
And by the way - In my opinion "Your wife" is a dope track!!
I second everything you said. Hating on Dre is like hating on Michael Jordan or The Beatles. It just makes you look stupid as hell.
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i think all us who call him and industry hoe (me included), like our artists to carry out in real life what they carry out on the mic.
I think if artists were not in real life who they claimed to be on the mic i could not bang them. Like ACGrundy said, i too have stopped paying attention to Dre & Snoop completely. It doesn't faze me.
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i think all us who call him and industry hoe (me included), like our artists to carry out in real life what they carry out on the mic.
I think if artists were not in real life who they claimed to be on the mic i could not bang them. Like ACGrundy said, i too have stopped paying attention to Dre & Snoop completely. It doesn't faze me.
Has Dre ever said on mic that he doesnt like Mya?? Of course not--you guys arent making sense
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seriously what tha fuck iz wrong with Dre workin with Mya?
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But we don't even need to talk bout this shit since Dre would never work with those bitches.
Actually back in the days i posted a pic of Dre posing with them. LOL. ;D
What about now?
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I do not agree with you...
Dre always puts out the best of his ablities and it's fine for him to work with other people!
It could be that the songs you don't like is the songs that Dre likes the most...
And by the way - In my opinion "Your wife" is a dope track!!
No one complained when he worked with Mary J. So why get upset about Mya?
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No one complained when he worked with Mary J. So why get upset about Mya?
Exactly!!!
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Also, i know that no one would complain if Dre hooked up with Wacko Jacko to produce beats, he´s pop, would that make Dre an "industry hoe" aswell??? Dont think so.
Everytime Dre hookes up with people that u think is corny, u start complaining, thats stupid!!! Realize that!!!
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Also, i know that no one would complain if Dre hooked up with Wacko Jacko to produce beats, he´s pop, would that make Dre an "industry hoe" aswell Dont think so.
Everytime Dre hookes up with people that u think is corny, u start complaining, thats stupid!!! Realize that!!!
you're right, next time Dre hooks up with an artist that I hate, I'm gonna cheer him on. Yeah!!!! Dre hooked up a dope beat for Silkk the Shocker!!!! Yeah!!!! Go Dre!!!!!! I been waiting for this too happen since.....ummm....never!
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Actually back in the days i posted a pic of Dre posing with them. LOL. ;D
What about now?
U don't seriously think that does mean shit..?
I have a pic of Meth and Red posing with Britney...
does that mean they'll work together?
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U don't seriously think that does mean shit..?
I have a pic of Meth and Red posing with Britney...
does that mean they'll work together?
actually Redman iz on the new Christina Aguilera single
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actually Redman iz on the new Christina Aguilera single
shit...
but seriously Dre would never do shit like that