West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: BIGG-A on December 04, 2006, 03:29:39 AM
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Everybody wants the west to come back strong, but people always download and they dont buy.
People need to push the album and make it popular. Stop hatin on the artist and support the movement.
Make the west coast un-stoppable. People need that california love back.
2007 is the year of the takeover.
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yeah. i agree, i buy shit, everyone go and get that Game, Snoop, and more
why Jay-z sellin 800,000 and Snoopy only sellin 250000
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I copped the snoop and game albums...
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get the movement going.
go out today an buy 5 westcoast albums.
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get the movement going.
go out today an buy 5 westcoast albums.
lol, if you give me money 4 that, im down
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i buy albums if they are actually worth my hard earned cash. yes, i admit, i download albums. however, if they suck ass, i'm not just gonna go out and buy the album because i'm rollin on some sympathy shit. some of the shit out there just isn't worth it. i bought game, snoop and akon. i downloaded all of them before they were released, and since they were great albums, i went to the store and copped them. i use downloading strictly as a tool to see if i am gonna be willing to spend the $13+ on the artist. my philosophy is buying albums is like buying a car...you wouldn't go out and buy a used car just because someone told you it was good would you? no, you test drive it. if you like it, then you buy it.
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That's the thing is, I think westcoast fans are just more true right now. If an album is a banger, and worthy of our money, we will go out and cop it (hell maybe even multiple copies in the case of the Game album lol).....but you have soooooo many mainstream/groupie fans in the Jay Z bracket, that it wouldn't ever matter, because he will just always have that built-in first week sales boost, no matter what.
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i always download an album, and if i like it i buy it. Copped both Game's and Snoop's album.
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i always download an album, and if i like it i buy it. Copped both Game's and Snoop's album.
Same here bro...
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i always download an album, and if i like it i buy it. Copped both Game's and Snoop's album.
Same here bro...
yup
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fucc buying albums just becuz...One region doesn't need to be "on top" or make a "come bacc", there is enuff talent and enuff people in the game right now for everybody to have a piece and make money....Support your favorite artists if they produce quality music to your liking and let it do what it do...I think I've bought a total of maybe 5 albums since '00 and I'll continue to DL music as long as it is distributed for free on the internet.
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I agree with this topic.... I went to a local Sam Goody's and they had Game's, Snoops and Jay's CD's on sale for only $9.99 each. Thats some Best Buy and Target prices right there. I remember when you couldn't walk out of a Goody's or Tower without spending 16 to 17 bucks for a single CD...
Prices are very affordable....
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damn, what's the problem?
chack this! in Poland nobody buys albums! NOBODY!;( the best mainstream album in this year Tede - Esende Mylffon (great Matoe's productions!) has been bought by 5k people!! that's the problem!
but i bought TBCT;)
http://rapidshare.com/files/6047705/02-tede_-_blask-rcc.mp3.html
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Everybody wants the west to come back strong, but people always download and they dont buy.
People need to push the album and make it popular. Stop hatin on the artist and support the movement.
Make the west coast un-stoppable. People need that california love back.
2007 is the year of the takeover.
comments?
U shouldn't blame the downloaders...it's really the artists responsiblity to make GREAT and WORTHY-to Buy album.
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If you pay my rent I will. Promised.
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Everybody wants the west to come back strong, but people always download and they dont buy.
People need to push the album and make it popular. Stop hatin on the artist and support the movement.
Make the west coast un-stoppable. People need that california love back.
2007 is the year of the takeover.
comments?
U shouldn't blame the downloaders...it's really the artists responsiblity to make GREAT and WORTHY-to Buy album.
I can understand that too... Of all the tapes and CD's that I've purchased over the years I know that I've funded somebody's new Lambourghini...
However... If you downloaded the CD, bumped it and enjoyed it, then its pretty much a worthy-to-buy album, ya know?
At some point there has to be a continuing of the cycle... Artists making music and money from the fans going back to that source so more music can continue to flow....
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I brought Games album and was planning to get snoops but wen i went in on the 21st i realised it didnt come out till the 28th in the uk, i was pretty pissed so...
I brought Only Built for Cuban Links and burnt snoop to a CD, hehe. :P
I made the effort on the 21st but i cudnt b arsed to wait another week then go in to town again, waste of money on bus and petrol, besides 25 recordable cds cost me like £4.97, u do the math!
I might buy it in the january sales however along with Xzibit, Ice Cube, Alchemist 1st Infantry, Akala and Sways albums......???
U can't say i didn't make the effort cos the bus costs me like 3 quid for a dayrider, so theres no way ima bout to spend £10 on an album plus £6 for the bus
Besides i must admit i do love to buy cds, jus to bump the REAL cd with that brand new smell! I mean GOD DAMN! That smell shits all over solvents :o :o :o
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hmm lets see here
Murs
Dogg Pound
E-40
Ice Cube
The Game
Snoop Dogg
Kokane
Defari
Dilated Peoples
Jurassic 5
I've never bought that many albums from west coast artists in 1 year in my life. I might as well just buy that Xzibit too for the hell of it.
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This is the first year I haven't bought an album. I don't see a good reason to buy an album anymore. I listen to my mp3 player 98% of the time so if I actually went out and purchased a CD it would just be sitting in a shoe box collecting dust anyways. I could care less how good The Game's album is, I'm still just gonna download it.
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I buy albums because of my parents. When I see them diggin' thru orginal classic albums from the past like The Gap Band, Michael Jackson, Stevie Wonder and things like that it's cool. I want to be able to show people years from now and be like "check this out, ALL EYEZ ON ME." I don't want to be like, "check it out, it's All Eyez on Me but its a burned copy that I downloaded off the Internet years ago."
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This is the first year I haven't bought an album. I don't see a good reason to buy an album anymore. I listen to my mp3 player 98% of the time so if I actually went out and purchased a CD it would just be sitting in a shoe box collecting dust anyways. I could care less how good The Game's album is, I'm still just gonna download it.
Do u not miss that feeling of opening a brand new cd with an OFFICIAL disc and that beautiful smell? I love that, makes me feel like a lil kid again
I've recently started downloading instead of buying but i still buy the albums that are crazy or that i want to own for the sake of my collection.
Cos when HHID drops im copping straight away, i've got every single Nas album along with every single 2pac album cos they r my fav rappers, i don't really giv a shit how the album is, the music is a bonus....
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I buy albums because of my parents. When I see them diggin' thru orginal classic albums from the past like The Gap Band, Michael Jackson, Stevie Wonder and things like that it's cool. I want to be able to show people years from now and be like "check this out, ALL EYEZ ON ME." I don't want to be like, "check it out, it's All Eyez on Me but its a burned copy that I downloaded off the Internet years ago."
Im the exact same, i wanna b able to show my kids, who ill force to like rap music, my classic collection that ive built up over years
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Everything I listen to is music I paid for.
If there's more money in it more dudes would be puttin out g funk so yeah revive the west.
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I buy albums because of my parents. When I see them diggin' thru orginal classic albums from the past like The Gap Band, Michael Jackson, Stevie Wonder and things like that it's cool. I want to be able to show people years from now and be like "check this out, ALL EYEZ ON ME." I don't want to be like, "check it out, it's All Eyez on Me but its a burned copy that I downloaded off the Internet years ago."
^ now thats a fuckin' post!
I feel the same way. My pops is a collector and he's always bustin' out his James Brown, Johnny Guitar Watson, BB King albums and more. He's proud of them things and he's always like "come here son and listen to this"...
I'm kicking myself in the ass because I used to own some vintage hip hop vinyls from the 80's when I was a young kid... and like a dumb young kid I allowed myself to lose that shit. I can only imagine what it would be worth today...
But yeah, I like how you think...
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I copped "The Blue Carpet Treatment" 1 hour ago, but I'm no from the West, so it doesn't matter cause in Germany Snoop doesn't get that much attention. 2004 was good with "Drop It Like It's Hot" and "Signs". If "That's That Shit" blows up in america, it's possible that they play it over here.
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I buy albums because of my parents. When I see them diggin' thru orginal classic albums from the past like The Gap Band, Michael Jackson, Stevie Wonder and things like that it's cool. I want to be able to show people years from now and be like "check this out, ALL EYEZ ON ME." I don't want to be like, "check it out, it's All Eyez on Me but its a burned copy that I downloaded off the Internet years ago."
thats real right there
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the only albums worth buying so far this year are Tech N9nes, Ice cube's and Game's/E40s maybe..
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it's so much easier to download an album and delete the wack shit rather than waste 10 bucks on a Cd cause of the overload of filler songs on a CD that shit is annoying. I mean did Snoop have to put those bullshit songs on the 2nd half of the cd is garbage except for Imagine and a couple of others. What happened to the days of Illmatic when every song was tight when you had like 10 or 12 tracks like Doggystyle or most of the classic albums from that era. Then you got niggaz releasing double albums like 50 next year, half of that shit il be garbage.
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I bought the blue carpet treatment and haven't even listened to it yet!
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it's so much easier to download an album and delete the wack shit rather than waste 10 bucks on a Cd cause of the overload of filler songs on a CD that shit is annoying. I mean did Snoop have to put those bullshit songs on the 2nd half of the cd is garbage except for Imagine and a couple of others. What happened to the days of Illmatic when every song was tight when you had like 10 or 12 tracks like Doggystyle or most of the classic albums from that era. Then you got niggaz releasing double albums like 50 next year, half of that shit il be garbage.
Yeah. I only d/l either becoz I can't find an album anywhere, or for preview purposes. I can't think of any album that I could listen to w/out skipping a track, apart from Cubes new one. ;D reminds me, I have to get that cd.
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The only west coast album I've bought this year is Ice Cube. There hasn't been anything else that has been remotely interesting enough for me to part with $15 or so. I'm not going to support music I don't like just because it's west coast. I'll support music I like. Otherwise I'll just download it and listen to the 2 or 3 good songs on it.
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people would feel a lot diffrnt if ya the person puttin out music, an ya puttin ya heart in it. An the album is bangin
an ya dont sell shit, cuzz people wanna get shit free. fuck that.
Ya bump it ya buy it.
It's cool to hear sum new tracks online, but when ya burn the whole thing
an never buy it. thats shit fuck up.
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Everybody wants the west to come back strong, but people always download and they dont buy.
People need to push the album and make it popular. Stop hatin on the artist and support the movement.
Make the west coast un-stoppable. People need that california love back.
2007 is the year of the takeover.
comments?
U shouldn't blame the downloaders...it's really the artists responsiblity to make GREAT and WORTHY-to Buy album.
I can understand that too... Of all the tapes and CD's that I've purchased over the years I know that I've funded somebody's new Lambourghini...
However... If you downloaded the CD, bumped it and enjoyed it, then its pretty much a worthy-to-buy album, ya know?
At some point there has to be a continuing of the cycle... Artists making music and money from the fans going back to that source so more music can continue to flow....
If they really want to make money, it's best they get a legit job like everyone else. In music wise- I demand a quality music...not just "I'ma kill you, motherfucker" type of music.
and yes, I would want people to buy album...however, at this point, it's not worth it.
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That is a legit job... Its a legit tax paying job that provides income for the artists and his family, just as someone who was a toy maker, car designer,etc.
Quality is an issue in every market where there is a buyer and a seller.... but this is the only one where people are getting it for free (not legally of course) and then choosing later whether to buy it or not...
I think what the person that started this thread is saying and that I am in agreement with, is that if you downloaded something and enjoyed it then buy it at least... I think that is reasonable.. more than reasonable...
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That is a legit job... Its a legit tax paying job that provides income for the artists and his family, just as someone who was a toy maker, car designer,etc.
Quality is an issue in every market where there is a buyer and a seller.... but this is the only one where people are getting it for free (not legally of course) and then choosing later whether to buy it or not...
I think what the person that started this thread is saying and that I am in agreement with, is that if you downloaded something and enjoyed it then buy it at least... I think that is reasonable.. more than reasonable...
I think i might overanalyzed it..but ya ..true that...if it's GOOD...lmao.
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That is a legit job... Its a legit tax paying job that provides income for the artists and his family, just as someone who was a toy maker, car designer,etc.
Quality is an issue in every market where there is a buyer and a seller.... but this is the only one where people are getting it for free (not legally of course) and then choosing later whether to buy it or not...
I think what the person that started this thread is saying and that I am in agreement with, is that if you downloaded something and enjoyed it then buy it at least... I think that is reasonable.. more than reasonable...
this is right on. yup!
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i bought snoop and game's.i bought e-40's when it came out. i still have to go get that cube and liks cds. but i never download or buy burned cd's. i try and support tha west but only if i like tha artist. im west west to tha fullest but i wouldn't buy daz's cd
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Nigga please.
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I only buy cd's with replay value
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I will always download an album first, and if I can listen to at least 3/4 of it then I will buy a copy. If that's not the case then it's not worth it to me. Is it messed up that I'm getting the album for free? Maybe so, but as a lot of people will agree, these artists need to release quality music to warrant people spending their money on it. Besides, I download for my personal collection and in no way do I bootleg or use any other methods to try and make money off another individual's work. As for the Snoop and Game albums, I purchased 2 copies of each as well as the new 2Pac and 2 copies of the new Jay-Z.
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I buy albums because of my parents. When I see them diggin' thru orginal classic albums from the past like The Gap Band, Michael Jackson, Stevie Wonder and things like that it's cool. I want to be able to show people years from now and be like "check this out, ALL EYEZ ON ME." I don't want to be like, "check it out, it's All Eyez on Me but its a burned copy that I downloaded off the Internet years ago."
word and i love the booklets
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I only buy cd's with replay value
Just curious.....If you download it, do you still keep it or do you delete it if you figure it has no replay value?
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i buy albums if they are actually worth my hard earned cash. yes, i admit, i download albums. however, if they suck ass, i'm not just gonna go out and buy the album because i'm rollin on some sympathy shit. some of the shit out there just isn't worth it. i bought game, snoop and akon. i downloaded all of them before they were released, and since they were great albums, i went to the store and copped them. i use downloading strictly as a tool to see if i am gonna be willing to spend the $13+ on the artist. my philosophy is buying albums is like buying a car...you wouldn't go out and buy a used car just because someone told you it was good would you? no, you test drive it. if you like it, then you buy it.
;D My thoughts exactly
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^^ Good point Styles.
People will always find excuses not to buy records. Like EVERYTHING coming out is wack.
It's just human nature, if you can get it free, why pay for it? So stop blaming everything on the music, and just admit you're a greedy muthafucka :)
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Of course, I forgot to mention, there are exceptions, true music fans, who support the music they like... But they're getting rare! I barely know anybody in my entourage that buys albums..
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8)these days downloadin seems to be a regular thing to do.
Shit fuck up.
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8)these days downloadin seems to be a regular thing to do.
Shit fuck up.
It is what it is. If quality music=buy, if shity music=burn.
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I only downloaded two albums I think, the new Ice T one and Hi Tek's latest. Oh yeah and Method Man's 'The Day After'.
I stay behind in hip hop becuz I want to buy the album, unforuently I'm always broke as fuck. So I'm always late. Oh well.
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shitty music or not, still seems crazy.
but i guess....
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Everybody wants the west to come back strong, but people always download and they dont buy.
People need to push the album and make it popular. Stop hatin on the artist and support the movement.
Make the west coast un-stoppable. People need that california love back.
2007 is the year of the takeover.
comments?
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Everybody wants the west to come back strong, but people always download and they dont buy.
People need to push the album and make it popular. Stop hatin on the artist and support the movement.
Make the west coast un-stoppable. People need that california love back.
2007 is the year of the takeover.
comments?
i always get the dpg albums no matta what
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Everybody wants the west to come back strong, but people always download and they dont buy.
People need to push the album and make it popular. Stop hatin on the artist and support the movement.
Make the west coast un-stoppable. People need that california love back.
2007 is the year of the takeover.
comments?
i always get the dpg albums no matta what
Who dont...
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I buy albums because of my parents. When I see them diggin' thru orginal classic albums from the past like The Gap Band, Michael Jackson, Stevie Wonder and things like that it's cool. I want to be able to show people years from now and be like "check this out, ALL EYEZ ON ME." I don't want to be like, "check it out, it's All Eyez on Me but its a burned copy that I downloaded off the Internet years ago."
Im the exact same, i wanna b able to show my kids, who ill force to like rap music, my classic collection that ive built up over years
Yup!!! I agree...I have like over 5k in music...maybe more...i dont fuck with burning from other people...i want the original...i want the cover art...all that...i download too...but from napster or my musicmatch online store...so i pay my .99 cents for the track...i get mad as fuck when people ask me "Burn me a copy"...i just say nicely..."Fuck that...if i can buy it you can too...i aint no rich motherfucka so...dont act like you on welfare etc...i cant stand that...now when people ask..."You got that new Snoop?" I say no cause some people are cheap these days...HaHa...
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Same way some times, I be tellin peeps to go buy shit.
Any way if I have a burn cd, I dont take care of it at all. I just lose that shit...
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At least go out to used cd shop. shit get the album......
u can find sum crazy shit there sumtimes...
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I buy albums because of my parents. When I see them diggin' thru orginal classic albums from the past like The Gap Band, Michael Jackson, Stevie Wonder and things like that it's cool. I want to be able to show people years from now and be like "check this out, ALL EYEZ ON ME." I don't want to be like, "check it out, it's All Eyez on Me but its a burned copy that I downloaded off the Internet years ago."
Im the exact same, i wanna b able to show my kids, who ill force to like rap music, my classic collection that ive built up over years
Yup!!! I agree...I have like over 5k in music...maybe more...i dont fuck with burning from other people...i want the original...i want the cover art...all that...i download too...but from napster or my musicmatch online store...so i pay my .99 cents for the track...i get mad as fuck when people ask me "Burn me a copy"...i just say nicely..."Fuck that...if i can buy it you can too...i aint no rich motherfucka so...dont act like you on welfare etc...i cant stand that...now when people ask..."You got that new Snoop?" I say no cause some people are cheap these days...HaHa...
feel ya
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up. whats ya feelin on this..
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up. whats ya feelin on this..
im feeling like im going to keep downloading albums because cd-r's are cheaper then the actual cd from the label. 8)
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up. whats ya feelin on this..
im feeling like im going to keep downloading albums because cd-r's are cheaper then the actual cd from the label. 8)
this is why the game is totally fucked up. Some day there wount even be people puttin music out because of this.
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up. whats ya feelin on this..
im feeling like im going to keep downloading albums because cd-r's are cheaper then the actual cd from the label. 8)
this is why the game is totally fucked up. Some day there wount even be people puttin music out because of this.
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get the movement going.
go out today an buy 5 westcoast albums.
lol, if you give me money 4 that, im down
exactly, i dont earn much money yet, and i have to make choices to what to spend my money on, and if i can get my hands on a free cd which saves me money which i can use for other things i will do that, and im sure a lot of the other ppl here think the same, they rather buy some new clothes/shoes or w/e else instead of buyin cd's u can get for free ::)
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get the movement going.
go out today an buy 5 westcoast albums.
lol, if you give me money 4 that, im down
exactly, i dont earn much money yet, and i have to make choices to what to spend my money on, and if i can get my hands on a free cd which saves me money which i can use for other things i will do that, and im sure a lot of the other ppl here think the same, they rather buy some new clothes/shoes or w/e else instead of buyin cd's u can get for free ::)
fuckin please, people got this game really fucked up. then who pays for the music. whats the reason to even make music if all u fucks think its free.
you get new shoes ya pay, get new music ya pay. it like everything else. Or maybe ya just a broke fuck!!!!!!!!!!huh.?
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get the movement going.
go out today an buy 5 westcoast albums.
lol, if you give me money 4 that, im down
exactly, i dont earn much money yet, and i have to make choices to what to spend my money on, and if i can get my hands on a free cd which saves me money which i can use for other things i will do that, and im sure a lot of the other ppl here think the same, they rather buy some new clothes/shoes or w/e else instead of buyin cd's u can get for free ::)
fuckin please, people got this game really fucked up. then who pays for the music. whats the reason to even make music if all u fucks think its free.
you get new shoes ya pay, get new music ya pay. it like everything else. Or maybe ya just a broke fuck!!!!!!!!!!huh.?
how fuckin sad. people like you with your mentality have ruined the music industry. What reason to even make music if its free? God that is sad. Music has been around a lot longer than business. Trust me, I love business and I am a true business man, but what you are saying is horrible. Music should be made for the love of music, and someone putting their heart and soul into it. Reason which you have given is why the music industry is so horrible, why music sucks, and why I don't buy music anymore. Fuck your stupid logic.
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it's sad ya think music is free.
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That's the thing is, I think westcoast fans are just more true right now. If an album is a banger, and worthy of our money, we will go out and cop it (hell maybe even multiple copies in the case of the Game album lol).....but you have soooooo many mainstream/groupie fans in the Jay Z bracket, that it wouldn't ever matter, because he will just always have that built-in first week sales boost, no matter what.
Its true JAy - z has more of a pop fallowing then the westcoast right now.
i buy albums if they are actually worth my hard earned cash. yes, i admit, i download albums. however, if they suck ass, i'm not just gonna go out and buy the album because i'm rollin on some sympathy shit. some of the shit out there just isn't worth it. i bought game, snoop and akon. i downloaded all of them before they were released, and since they were great albums, i went to the store and copped them. i use downloading strictly as a tool to see if i am gonna be willing to spend the $13+ on the artist. my philosophy is buying albums is like buying a car...you wouldn't go out and buy a used car just because someone told you it was good would you? no, you test drive it. if you like it, then you buy it.
sAME HERE im a music cd collector so i just listing to see if its good first thats all. I have a bunch well maybe not a bunch but i ouwld say a 3rd of my cds that suck.
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I do buy albums to support the artist if he brings good music, also for the booklet!!
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buy music.
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and fuck them mothafuckin haterz givin me negative karma, y'all can suck my dick cuz for as long as i live im gonna say what i want and i dont carew bout none of y'all
and now the reason of this post....BIGG-A, im not broke its just i dont earn millions yet and i got it all legit, i gotta work for every cent i earn, so i dont spend it on some half ass commercial put together albums, i got all the classics of the older times, but nowadays music is just 100% commercial and no love for hiphop anymore....
its like any nerd can become a rapper nowadays,
fuck that im not gonna buy their shit so they can get nice rimz on they cars and w/e and laugh at me for buyin their stupid album which they just made for the money, i rather save my money so i can buy those rimz for myself :-*
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get those rims, just sayin there is a lot of good music being stolen though.
No negative karma here man,
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I copped "The Blue Carpet Treatment" 1 hour ago, but I'm no from the West, so it doesn't matter cause in Germany Snoop doesn't get that much attention. 2004 was good with "Drop It Like It's Hot" and "Signs". If "That's That Shit" blows up in america, it's possible that they play it over here.
cool, snoop love in germany.
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downloading music is out of control. i could see some albums, but if u like the shit BUY THE SHIT.
people spend money to make music , u should spend to hear it
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I have bought about 12 or so albums this year.
But low key......if people continue to download albums versus buying them, it could shake up the music industry....and for the quality of music, that could be a great thing....especially for independent artists who truly have talent. Imagine if companies spent millions to promote, but only made a few hundred thousands back....that could mean that we don't have to deal with hearing as much bullshit on radio or TV, and they might even realize that people do buy albums...but only when the ENTIRE ALBUM is good, and not just 2-3 songs. My homeboy said somethin on a track...."yo ringtone went platinum, but ya album ain't go silver"...and that's true for a LOT of artists.
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My homeboy said somethin on a track...."yo ringtone went platinum, but ya album ain't go silver"...and that's true for a LOT of artists.
LOL, so true
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yup,sick shit
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downloading music is out of control. i could see some albums, but if u like the shit BUY THE SHIT.
people spend money to make music , u should spend to hear it
That sounds good, until you hear the story behind it. I know it's different for every artist, and artists are starting to wisen up...but in most cases, new artists can receive anywhere from a DIME, meaning TEN CENTS per album....to a dollar. Even the ones who run their own companies aren't makin the 7-8 dollars that people think. Also, most artists bank on their concerts to make the most money, because the companies make most of the money for albums.
And to be real....it's basically preaching to the choir to tell people on these boards to buy music, because most of us are the true fans. We might have the computers and we might download the most albums....but we also buy the most. The ones who really don't buy albums are those who don't care as much about music enough to discuss it for hours as we do online....the ones who just listen to radio a bit, and hear songs at the clubs, and just listen to whatever is "popular". Some of them will only buy albums from their favorite artists...but they always get "the homie" to burn the CD for them...or they either buy it for 3-5 dollars from the nearest bootlegger.
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u can get brand new cd's at bestbuy for $9
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downloading music is out of control. i could see some albums, but if u like the shit BUY THE SHIT.
people spend money to make music , u should spend to hear it
That sounds good, until you hear the story behind it. I know it's different for every artist, and artists are starting to wisen up...but in most cases, new artists can receive anywhere from a DIME, meaning TEN CENTS per album....to a dollar. Even the ones who run their own companies aren't makin the 7-8 dollars that people think. Also, most artists bank on their concerts to make the most money, because the companies make most of the money for albums.
And to be real....it's basically preaching to the choir to tell people on these boards to buy music, because most of us are the true fans. We might have the computers and we might download the most albums....but we also buy the most. The ones who really don't buy albums are those who don't care as much about music enough to discuss it for hours as we do online....the ones who just listen to radio a bit, and hear songs at the clubs, and just listen to whatever is "popular". Some of them will only buy albums from their favorite artists...but they always get "the homie" to burn the CD for them...or they either buy it for 3-5 dollars from the nearest bootlegger.
Thats a true statement right there...people fuckin up music bad...
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u can get brand new cd's at bestbuy for $9
I know right? WTF...some people just dont really care like dude said...i see them people everywhere...they the type that you ask them..."yo you heard so & so's new album...they say "whos that?" you play the song...then they say "oh yeah i downloaded that shit from limewire yesterday"...they say..."who'd you say sings that?"...some people fuckin up...burned shit dont even sound good tho...some of it is all distorted and some songs are louder than others etc...personally i love quality, not quantity...thats super wack when people do that on a daily basis...i know dudes that say that they havent bought music in years...that shit irks the hell out of me...some people dont got no sense or shame...L8z!!
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u can get brand new cd's at bestbuy for $9
I know right? WTF...some people just dont really care like dude said...i see them people everywhere...they the type that you ask them..."yo you heard so & so's new album...they say "whos that?" you play the song...then they say "oh yeah i downloaded that shit from limewire yesterday"...they say..."who'd you say sings that?"...some people fuckin up...burned shit dont even sound good tho...some of it is all distorted and some songs are louder than others etc...personally i love quality, not quantity...thats super wack when people do that on a daily basis...i know dudes that say that they havent bought music in years...that shit irks the hell out of me...some people dont got no sense or shame...L8z!!
Man, you know what? I don't care what people say. It's my money and I demand QUALITY. If they bring constant bullshit..hey, I could give a fuck. Even I don't buy my favorite artists' music because they done fucked up with their albums..for example: I bought myself "Rep yo set" album and they shit was pure trash. I knew buying that shit was very regretful. I'm proud to burn motherfuckaz's albums that contains wack songs. I buy quality..and not bullshit. Trust me, it's not because I don't care about the music...it's because I don't care about stupid music.
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u can get brand new cd's at bestbuy for $9
I know right? WTF...some people just dont really care like dude said...i see them people everywhere...they the type that you ask them..."yo you heard so & so's new album...they say "whos that?" you play the song...then they say "oh yeah i downloaded that shit from limewire yesterday"...they say..."who'd you say sings that?"...some people fuckin up...burned shit dont even sound good tho...some of it is all distorted and some songs are louder than others etc...personally i love quality, not quantity...thats super wack when people do that on a daily basis...i know dudes that say that they havent bought music in years...that shit irks the hell out of me...some people dont got no sense or shame...L8z!!
Man, you know what? I don't care what people say. It's my money and I demand QUALITY. If they bring constant bullshit..hey, I could give a fuck. Even I don't buy my favorite artists' music because they done fucked up with their albums..for example: I bought myself "Rep yo set" album and they shit was pure trash. I knew buying that shit was very regretful. I'm proud to burn motherfuckaz's albums that contains wack songs. I buy quality..and not bullshit. Trust me, it's not because I don't care about the music...it's because I don't care about stupid music.
shit dont make no sense. Have ya ever/do record. shit is work. It's a full time job. So for ya to take peoples work for free, is the craziest shit. If ya want music buy it, just like anything else. it's easy to say the music's bad I WONT BUY IT. bUT YA 4 SURE BE BUMPIN THAT SHIT down the street on ya way. an if ya dont like one album is that enough to never buy music again. you have no arguement..........
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look dude, what many ppl, including me, are meaning that rak in 2k6 aint the same as it used 2 be, i copped all the classic and w/e last i counted i owned 108 cd's, but you know,
they used to make an album of 16 tracks maximum and most of the shit on it was quality, u aint regretted buyin a illmatic, a doggystyle, a dogg food, a 7 day theory, a ready to die, a all eyez on me....nowadays they comin with albums with alot more tracks, many even have more then 20 tracks on them, and they got their commercial singles, and besides that theres 3 or 4 listenable tracks on it, THAT is the average album nowadays, imo.
I dont buy an album for some cool songs, i buy a album to hear a fuckin quality album, and as long as ppl comin with that commercial crap and dont make those "old" quality albums anymore, i aint buyin shit
and another thing, nowadays its all about the money, without money wudnt be no music, i know that, but the mixtape industry got outta hand, rappers makin fucked up albums just to appeal to the masses, lotta shit is wrong nowadays, i aint sayin hiphop is dead, like nas, but its time for a change again, IMO
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it dont matter what ya say, If the internet was big back in the day, most of these albums wouldent have sold as much. people had to go out an buy there shit. maybe artist work hardier if they know it's not going to be leaked everywhere.
would be people like you still makin reason up to steal music. everything ya people say about downloadin doesnt make since.Maybe ya should start listin to sumin else. cuzz everything these days sucks to u right.
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This problem is being felt throught the entire industry, it is just hitting Hip Hop harder because we have seen the highest records sales over the past few years. YOu cant really blame the artist even though they are putting out bullshit, it is more the sign of the times. The technology is changing and it is no longer convient to purchase a cd and the accessories needed to listen. Most of us dont even own walkman's any more. We are lazy as a people we want our shit and we want it right now and it should be able to move when we move.
It is just easlier to download the music free or not and put it on my ipod and go. Cd's are no longer practical. Instead of complaining about the decline in record sales artist and lables should try to figure out what the next big techology boom will be for music and get the highest rates while the market is still new.
However at the end of the day GOOD MUSIC WILL SELL no matter what the market, so it may be time for some of our hip hop artists to take stock in their lyrics and grow up. If you want to be succesful as an artist you CANNOT depend on one fan base. I also think Hip Hop and Rap fans have matured we are grwon up now with more responsiblilties than just partying and drive by shooting dont appeal to us anymore.
I know a couple of westcoast artisits and I tell them all the time the reason westcoast rap is dying is because the masses cant identify with the lyrics. I.e. westcoast artists make music for west coast fans, sunshine, smoking weed, drive by shootings, callin women bitches, and some other stuff. Then just look at a map Cali is all the way over here by itself. The rest of the US cant relate to what they are talking about. Secondly, westcoast artisits always calling a female a bitch.... well women hold it down now as well so why would WOMEN take their hard earned money and buy a cd where they will be disrespected? If u cut off women you are killing a large part of your sales. Westcoast artisits dont make music for everyone they make it for westcoast fans and in doing so they kill there own sales.
Hip Hop fans are looking to grow up and they want the music to reflect that. The Hip Hop industry needs to have its 30th birthday, in my opinion that is the only way artist will get there due. SOme may call it selling out but you are in the game to make money, you make the most money by making GOOD MUSic the everyone can relate to.
Now I have written my book... lol
But this is real talk right here.
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it dont matter what ya say, If the internet was big back in the day, most of these albums wouldent have sold as much. people had to go out an buy there shit. maybe artist work hardier if they know it's not going to be leaked everywhere.
would be people like you still makin reason up to steal music. everything ya people say about downloadin doesnt make since.Maybe ya should start listin to sumin else. cuzz everything these days sucks to u right.
That's not fair. If a artist has worked really hard on their project and given it real effort then that will come through and people know good music when they hear it. Secondly alot of these artists believe that leaking a couple tracks will help boost record sales. To me the music should speak for itself, dont tell me how great your album will be so I will pruchase it, just constantly make good music and you will have a fan for life.
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This problem is being felt throught the entire industry, it is just hitting Hip Hop harder because we have seen the highest records sales over the past few years. YOu cant really blame the artist even though they are putting out bullshit, it is more the sign of the times. The technology is changing and it is no longer convient to purchase a cd and the accessories needed to listen. Most of us dont even own walkman's any more. We are lazy as a people we want our shit and we want it right now and it should be able to move when we move.
It is just easlier to download the music free or not and put it on my ipod and go. Cd's are no longer practical. Instead of complaining about the decline in record sales artist and lables should try to figure out what the next big techology boom will be for music and get the highest rates while the market is still new.
However at the end of the day GOOD MUSIC WILL SELL no matter what the market, so it may be time for some of our hip hop artists to take stock in their lyrics and grow up. If you want to be succesful as an artist you CANNOT depend on one fan base. I also think Hip Hop and Rap fans have matured we are grwon up now with more responsiblilties than just partying and drive by shooting dont appeal to us anymore.
I know a couple of westcoast artisits and I tell them all the time the reason westcoast rap is dying is because the masses cant identify with the lyrics. I.e. westcoast artists make music for west coast fans, sunshine, smoking weed, drive by shootings, callin women bitches, and some other stuff. Then just look at a map Cali is all the way over here by itself. The rest of the US cant relate to what they are talking about. Secondly, westcoast artisits always calling a female a bitch.... well women hold it down now as well so why would WOMEN take their hard earned money and buy a cd where they will be disrespected? If u cut off women you are killing a large part of your sales. Westcoast artisits dont make music for everyone they make it for westcoast fans and in doing so they kill there own sales.
Hip Hop fans are looking to grow up and they want the music to reflect that. The Hip Hop industry needs to have its 30th birthday, in my opinion that is the only way artist will get there due. SOme may call it selling out but you are in the game to make money, you make the most money by making GOOD MUSic the everyone can relate to.
Now I have written my book... lol
But this is real talk right here.
(almost) every rapper calls women bitches, from dipset to d-block to w/e other rapper/group
not just westcoast, tho i think its kina exaggerated, cuz not all women are bitches....some are most of em not.
bout the lyrics and stuff u right, they shud make new music, improve themselves, thats what i meant, but that dickridin bigg-a dont wanna listen but w/e....i let him keep that dick in his ears, i dont care
and good music will sell, sales are down, meanin nowadays theres less good music, and be honest, every album nowadays has to have kanye, swizz, just blaze, pharrell and w/e beats to be good, thats bullshit
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This problem is being felt throught the entire industry, it is just hitting Hip Hop harder because we have seen the highest records sales over the past few years. YOu cant really blame the artist even though they are putting out bullshit, it is more the sign of the times. The technology is changing and it is no longer convient to purchase a cd and the accessories needed to listen. Most of us dont even own walkman's any more. We are lazy as a people we want our shit and we want it right now and it should be able to move when we move.
It is just easlier to download the music free or not and put it on my ipod and go. Cd's are no longer practical. Instead of complaining about the decline in record sales artist and lables should try to figure out what the next big techology boom will be for music and get the highest rates while the market is still new.
However at the end of the day GOOD MUSIC WILL SELL no matter what the market, so it may be time for some of our hip hop artists to take stock in their lyrics and grow up. If you want to be succesful as an artist you CANNOT depend on one fan base. I also think Hip Hop and Rap fans have matured we are grwon up now with more responsiblilties than just partying and drive by shooting dont appeal to us anymore.
I know a couple of westcoast artisits and I tell them all the time the reason westcoast rap is dying is because the masses cant identify with the lyrics. I.e. westcoast artists make music for west coast fans, sunshine, smoking weed, drive by shootings, callin women bitches, and some other stuff. Then just look at a map Cali is all the way over here by itself. The rest of the US cant relate to what they are talking about. Secondly, westcoast artisits always calling a female a bitch.... well women hold it down now as well so why would WOMEN take their hard earned money and buy a cd where they will be disrespected? If u cut off women you are killing a large part of your sales. Westcoast artisits dont make music for everyone they make it for westcoast fans and in doing so they kill there own sales.
Hip Hop fans are looking to grow up and they want the music to reflect that. The Hip Hop industry needs to have its 30th birthday, in my opinion that is the only way artist will get there due. SOme may call it selling out but you are in the game to make money, you make the most money by making GOOD MUSic the everyone can relate to.
Now I have written my book... lol
But this is real talk right here.
That is all real talk...but that there is very true.
I am sure it wouldn't be quite as profitable....but I could even see companies or at least independent artists doing this....creating websites for their albums/artists, where people can download the entire album for free...however, the site would be loaded with advertisements, and the companies would make a good 50 cents or dollar off of each download, just from the advertisements alone. That might sound a bit crazy, but I definitely don't think it's out of hand. Imagine them showing u commercials or showin hella ads while you download the song...if they had sponsors who knew that they would profit, it would definitely work.
They are gonna have to learn how to beat the technology...if not, the record industry will collapse.....and if that happens....oh well. The independents will have a greater chance to shine then.
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This problem is being felt throught the entire industry, it is just hitting Hip Hop harder because we have seen the highest records sales over the past few years. YOu cant really blame the artist even though they are putting out bullshit, it is more the sign of the times. The technology is changing and it is no longer convient to purchase a cd and the accessories needed to listen. Most of us dont even own walkman's any more. We are lazy as a people we want our shit and we want it right now and it should be able to move when we move.
It is just easlier to download the music free or not and put it on my ipod and go. Cd's are no longer practical. Instead of complaining about the decline in record sales artist and lables should try to figure out what the next big techology boom will be for music and get the highest rates while the market is still new.
However at the end of the day GOOD MUSIC WILL SELL no matter what the market, so it may be time for some of our hip hop artists to take stock in their lyrics and grow up. If you want to be succesful as an artist you CANNOT depend on one fan base. I also think Hip Hop and Rap fans have matured we are grwon up now with more responsiblilties than just partying and drive by shooting dont appeal to us anymore.
I know a couple of westcoast artisits and I tell them all the time the reason westcoast rap is dying is because the masses cant identify with the lyrics. I.e. westcoast artists make music for west coast fans, sunshine, smoking weed, drive by shootings, callin women bitches, and some other stuff. Then just look at a map Cali is all the way over here by itself. The rest of the US cant relate to what they are talking about. Secondly, westcoast artisits always calling a female a bitch.... well women hold it down now as well so why would WOMEN take their hard earned money and buy a cd where they will be disrespected? If u cut off women you are killing a large part of your sales. Westcoast artisits dont make music for everyone they make it for westcoast fans and in doing so they kill there own sales.
Hip Hop fans are looking to grow up and they want the music to reflect that. The Hip Hop industry needs to have its 30th birthday, in my opinion that is the only way artist will get there due. SOme may call it selling out but you are in the game to make money, you make the most money by making GOOD MUSic the everyone can relate to.
Now I have written my book... lol
But this is real talk right here.
(almost) every rapper calls women bitches, from dipset to d-block to w/e other rapper/group
not just westcoast, tho i think its kina exaggerated, cuz not all women are bitches....some are most of em not.
bout the lyrics and stuff u right, they shud make new music, improve themselves, thats what i meant, but that dickridin bigg-a dont wanna listen but w/e....i let him keep that dick in his ears, i dont care
and good music will sell, sales are down, meanin nowadays theres less good music, and be honest, every album nowadays has to have kanye, swizz, just blaze, pharrell and w/e beats to be good, thats bullshit
Thats true and even Kanye will say, "How many more sped up R&B beats do you want to hear?" It gets old. Its funny that these new artist complain about the decline in there records sales while they are sampling from the great artists from the 60's, 70's, and 80's (re-stateing my point good music will sell).
I cant make comments about Bigg A (is he the one that works with Daz?), but the mindset of the indusrty is to get in, make some bullshit, get paid, and get out..... which is cool for the artist but sucks for the fans.
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aint gotta listen to na body. but people got this hole thang twisted. ya gotta swallow ya pride an know ya wrong playboy.
dont get it twisted just bein real
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u can get brand new cd's at bestbuy for $9
I know right? WTF...some people just dont really care like dude said...i see them people everywhere...they the type that you ask them..."yo you heard so & so's new album...they say "whos that?" you play the song...then they say "oh yeah i downloaded that shit from limewire yesterday"...they say..."who'd you say sings that?"...some people fuckin up...burned shit dont even sound good tho...some of it is all distorted and some songs are louder than others etc...personally i love quality, not quantity...thats super wack when people do that on a daily basis...i know dudes that say that they havent bought music in years...that shit irks the hell out of me...some people dont got no sense or shame...L8z!!
Man, you know what? I don't care what people say. It's my money and I demand QUALITY. If they bring constant bullshit..hey, I could give a fuck. Even I don't buy my favorite artists' music because they done fucked up with their albums..for example: I bought myself "Rep yo set" album and they shit was pure trash. I knew buying that shit was very regretful. I'm proud to burn motherfuckaz's albums that contains wack songs. I buy quality..and not bullshit. Trust me, it's not because I don't care about the music...it's because I don't care about stupid music.
shit dont make no sense. Have ya ever/do record. shit is work. It's a full time job. So for ya to take peoples work for free, is the craziest shit. If ya want music buy it, just like anything else. it's easy to say the music's bad I WONT BUY IT. bUT YA 4 SURE BE BUMPIN THAT SHIT down the street on ya way. an if ya dont like one album is that enough to never buy music again. you have no arguement..........
man, I make my own music and I have a studio in my crib... Also. what i meant was if it's good..i buy, if wack..i don't. Lately, I haven't bought any albums cuz lot of rappers be putting wack shit...that's what imeant.
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I Download albums and if their good then i get them
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Ya know something? I realized that rap careers are drying up fast. What that means is that rapper either make music without expecting money or get a regular 9-5 job. Shit, i make music cause i want..and I don't mind doing for free cause i got a job that pays me. So, if people doing it for money, they doing for a wrong reason..imo.
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aint gotta listen to na body. but people got this hole thang twisted. ya gotta swallow ya pride an know ya wrong playboy.
dont get it twisted just bein real
w/e b, u dont get our (my and the other ppl who agree with me) point, its aight, but dont say i gotta swallow my pride, its my opinion, and the facts on the table show me im right for at least a part, so stop whinin dude and accept the l
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no, it costs money to make music...
NBA players get played to entertain
NFL players get paid to entertain
ACTORS get paid
MUSICIANS should get paid
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i buy albums if they are actually worth my hard earned cash. yes, i admit, i download albums. however, if they suck ass, i'm not just gonna go out and buy the album because i'm rollin on some sympathy shit. some of the shit out there just isn't worth it. i bought game, snoop and akon. i downloaded all of them before they were released, and since they were great albums, i went to the store and copped them. i use downloading strictly as a tool to see if i am gonna be willing to spend the $13+ on the artist. my philosophy is buying albums is like buying a car...you wouldn't go out and buy a used car just because someone told you it was good would you? no, you test drive it. if you like it, then you buy it.
If I was shown a used car that was 13 dollars, I probably wouldn't need to test drive it, no. You're just a cheap motherfucker. Spending 13 dollars on a car. FOR SHAME.
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almost 100 replys. keep it comin
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no, it costs money to make music...
NBA players get played to entertain
NFL players get paid to entertain
ACTORS get paid
MUSICIANS should get paid
. period .
music is an art, so is movies, but they are far longer commercial the music is, and the rets u mention is sports, sports is somethin different, its purely based on entertainment and earnin cash with it, so is movies basically (ok u got ur few "original" movies with more to it then just the hollywood thought) but music always was a sort of inspiration source for ppl, a way for artists to speak their mind and to say theyr opinion bout society and stuff, nowaday all i hear is niggas sippin on sirup, big fat rims, cars, bitches, clothes, that is actually a sign that original rap is declinin, no matter what y'all say i aint gone pay for that
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no, it costs money to make music...
NBA players get played to entertain
NFL players get paid to entertain
ACTORS get paid
MUSICIANS should get paid
. period .
music is an art, so is movies, but they are far longer commercial the music is, and the rets u mention is sports, sports is somethin different, its purely based on entertainment and earnin cash with it, so is movies basically (ok u got ur few "original" movies with more to it then just the hollywood thought) but music always was a sort of inspiration source for ppl, a way for artists to speak their mind and to say theyr opinion bout society and stuff, nowaday all i hear is niggas sippin on sirup, big fat rims, cars, bitches, clothes, that is actually a sign that original rap is declinin, no matter what y'all say i aint gone pay for that
understand, but there's a lot of other music beshinds that.